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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JB88 on September 09, 2007, 05:39:41 AM
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wrecked the girlfriends vw passat,
door and miirror smashed
dangit. need.
must present solution by 9 pm tommmorow (her return from portland) or 88 will be 44.
help. please.
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1st! Uhh... pack ur bags and move out, don't leave a forwarding address.
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not funny.
i'm serious.
i love this girl. need to fix it.
please.
if i can present solvency it will help.
own pocket fine.
please.
and thank you.
p.s. - come on you guys...i need you here. i dont know what to do. she come back in town tommorow
so please....no more...well pack yer bags yer toast bitts...that is what is going to happen if i can't solve this...like now. dont want to pack bags. dont want to fight. want to be able to say...hey, this is what happened and this is what i have done to fix it moments.
please. i need to fix this.
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did i mention please?
:confused:
is a door something that i could buy from a yard and replace?
aggggggghhhhhh!!!!!
(pain pain pain)
p.s. (stop reveling in it...it's bad for your kharma,)
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Give her your car in the mean time? Seeing you working non-stop to find a solution should be as good as having a solution found and implemented, if you didn't wreck it on purpose and she's any sort of reasonable.
I don't know about the specifics, but if you need a solid VW resource, the vwvortex forums should have the info you're after. I can't tell how long they'd take to reply with the answers you want, though.
You ran the car's open door into that post, right? No direct impact on the rest of the car's frame?
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Apologize and voluntarily surrender your licence to authorities. Wait a few years and take some driving lessons before getting back behind the wheel.
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But... you should have your bags packed, just incase. :aok
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lol.
sigh.
come on "VW". if anyowne has the fix it's you brother. help me obie-VW...your my only hope.
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this is a great opportunity to test her character. we must all pass through crisis in our relationship. you have discovered the best way to determine how materialistic she is and what her values are. as far as chattel is concerned there is nothing more valued than a car to it's owner now you'll know if she values you more than she does "stuff". think it through and buck up sheesh.
just in case I refer you to the first VWE post though.
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You are not allowed to have an accident and are afraid of her reaction? What kind of relationship is that?
This is why you have insurance.
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I disagree with VWE I would say nothing and watch for reaction and initial response. if she says WTF my car!!!!! instead of were you hurt I'd bounce her arse out to the boulevard car and all. if she is concerned about me and any possible injury sustained I'd take her to the porsche dealership and allow her the car she wants but that's just me.
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but that is irrelevant. i am not seeking relationship advice...i am seekuing solveny. if i can find solvency, i can alleviate the provlem. if i can alleviate the problem, i can walk right through this...if i can't...ill never live it down.
good point rolex...but what kind of relationship would it be if i were to dismiss this as a simple matter of insurace...(especially considering that she has made several claims this year already and my be due for an increase should the matter continue to surface...
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You don't need solvency right now, you need to start packing.
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Originally posted by Rolex
You are not allowed to have an accident and are afraid of her reaction? What kind of relationship is that?
keep in mind he's a handwrining liberal. his reaction is consistent with these type of people.
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Blame it on the squeakers down the street. Tell here they ran a bicycle into it. :D
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Originally posted by crockett
Blame it on the squeakers down the street. Tell here they ran a bicycle into it. :D
another handwrining liberal type of reaction
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OK, JB88. I apologize.
I assumed too much. I thought you were living together since you had access to her car.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Rolex
OK, JB88. I apologize.
I assumed too much. I thought you were living together since you had access to her car.
Good luck.
we do live together.
does that change this or make it worse?
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Originally posted by JB88
i understand what you mean by this storch, but in a way i have betrayed her trust...i did not ask permission...i just took it. not out of any intentional disregrard for her property, but more so out of a lack of concern about said subject.
it was a bad move in general...
but that is irrelevant. i am not seeking relationship advice...i am seekuing solveny. if i can find solvency, i can alleviate the provlem. if i can alleviate the problem, i can walk right through this...if i can't...ill never live it down.
good point rolex...but what kind of relationship would it be if i were to dismiss this as a simple matter of insurace...(especially considering that she has made several claims this year already and my be due for an increase should the matter continue to surface...
all the better. if she left you the keys you had defacto permission to wantonly wreck the car in this ultimate test of relationship strength and compassion. look for the OMG are you OK? were you hurt? never mind the car come to mama give me what I want response. then take her to the porsche dealership.
silly liberals never know how to turn a bad thing into a promising one.
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Now if you were say a conservative republican you coulda said "honey, on my way home from the oil refinery I saw a tree-huggin-sandle-wearing-dirt-munchin-bunnykisser riding his bike and ran him off the road" she would give you a hi-five and say nothing more.
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Originally posted by VWE
Now if you were say a conservative republican you coulda said "honey, on my way home from the oil refinery I saw a tree-huggin-sandle-wearing-dirt-munchin-bunnykisser riding has bike and ran him off the road" she would give you a hi-five and say nothing more.
that's what I'm talking about
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What's your girlfriends email address 88? I wanna send her a link to this thread...
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lol.
stop it.
your making me laugh on the way to the gallows...
don't want couples therapy...just want solvency. i'd like to make this easier on you.
please. please please. and thank you in advance.
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Originally posted by VWE
What's your girlfriends email address 88? I wanna send her a link to this thread...
:lol
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anyone else but these two bright stars wish to chime in?
:confused:
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I'll start a betting pool here
here's the choice
a. frau 88 says OMG are you alright!!!!
b. frau 88 says WTF you picture taking putz!!!!
I'm going with selection (a) because 88 is such a gem I'm sure this girl values him over any material thing.
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1. Have a plan to fix it. Get a 2nd job if you have to.
2. Call her and tell her what you did and your plan. Don't surprise her with it when she gets home.
3. Learn how to drive without hitting stuff.
Your bright star,
Rolex
:)
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I'm going with (c)... prepacked bags.
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Originally posted by Rolex
1. Have a plan to fix it. Get a 2nd job if you have to.
2. Call her and tell her what you did and your plan. Don't surprise her with it when she gets home.
3. Learn how to drive without hitting stuff.
Your bright star,
Rolex
:)
if you do this you will blow a tremendous opportunity to learn something about your loved one. this is golden opportunity, it truely is. what does your gut tell you?
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Originally posted by VWE
I'm going with (c)... prepacked bags.
(c) wasn't a choice it's an exit strategy
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Without 88 adding more liberalisms I'm having trouble keeping traction in this thread.
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Originally posted by Rolex
1. Have a plan to fix it. Get a 2nd job if you have to.
2. Call her and tell her what you did and your plan. Don't surprise her with it when she gets home.
3. Learn how to drive without hitting stuff.
Your bright star,
Rolex
:)
so far you are the only star that isn't composed entirely of hot flammable gas.
;)
okay so i am searcing the vortex forums and i am finding no areas for repairs...am i missing something?
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Go to the bone yard. If your lucky you can find the same make model color and power options. Then just pay to have it installed. If not get the same make model. Have a shop swap guts and paint the door.
Accidents happen thats why there not call purposes. ;)
As long as you plan on fixing your accident why should there be a problem?
Bronk
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i am going to fix it...which is why the inquiry.
only major difficulty is remote location. i am nowhere near an urban center....which sucks.
do i need to replace the entire door in such a case, or just the panel and mirror?
:confused:
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Originally posted by JB88
i am going to fix it...which is why the inquiry.
only major difficulty is remote location. i am nowhere near an urban center....which sucks.
do i need to replace the entire door in such a case, or just the panel and mirror?
:confused:
Whats easier and cheaper.
Unbolt door, remove guts,cut spot welds, grind spot welds flush, weld on new panel, prime, sand, paint bolt on new mirror/with old guts and finally bolt on repaired door.
Buy used door with mirror, scuff, paint to match, swap needed guts, unbolt old door, bolt on painted used door.
A straight bone yard door with same guts is the cheapest way to go.:)
Bronk
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how does one go about finding boneyards?
:confused:
is the web a good way or should i start contacting local repair shops?
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The yellow pages.
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k.
tho sunday is a bad day to begin the search i would imagine...
sigh.
thanks rolex.
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Originally posted by storch
another handwrining liberal type of reaction
You should really give it a rest man.. All you can ever do is try to attack people and call them liberals. Doesn't matter what the topic is about.. Someow you think being a "liberal" is a dirty word. Get a new line, your is worn thin..
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Originally posted by crockett
Someow you think being a "liberal" is a dirty word. Get a new line, your is worn thin..
It's not????
:p :D
Bronk<---- Compassionate conservative, trying to give JB the cheapest way to get the repair done.:D
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liberal is a profane word and being a liberal is abhorrant behavior, the cause of all of our current societal ills.
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put a big band-aid on the door saying "ouch" :D
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i am missing the problem here.
take it to a body shop, you pay the insurance deductible, also pay for her rental car if needed.
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it's been a bad year for accidents with this vehicle...none of which have been our fault...a concern would be that insurance rates might climb,
also, it is debatable whether or not i am covered.
we ran into that problem last time.
this being the case, it might be better to just fix it and forget it.
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if your not insured, you should not be driving, if you do drive be very very careful.
(damm, I'm starting to sound like my dad):D
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i am covered...but it could come at a cost if we made a claim...is my point.
but yes...in that you are correct.
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Is it just the door skin? And does the damage extend to fender? VERY easy to get door skin, get it painted, get paint matched up. Passat is a high-end car, paint has to be PERFECT though. Good idea would be to have a NICE rental car waiting for her on her arrival, and (obviously this is the weekend, so no shops open) a plan to get parts, estimates, etc.....Try to present a scenario to her that makes it all seem quite run-of-the-mill, and she (likely won't go spastic). ..... (OK, and check out apartment rental rates:D )
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88, I linked VWV because it's got a huge mass of VW nerds, so that's the best bet as far as finding out anything you couldn't figure out yourself with common sense. I figured you would need that sort of knowledge base if you had doubts about (e.g.) whether the frame is affected, or if you were SOL in terms of just finding a clean door assembly from a junk yard and bolting it in place of the damaged one because of unobtanium tools (like for BMWs), etc.
It sounds like you're actualy panicking though... So what's the problem?
The damage is done, she's on her way, you've got to pick a solution and execute it.
You can post on the vortex forums with the pertinent details on the damage and what you need them to explain to you that would help you choose a best plan or plans to follow.. In the Passat forums and any forum that seems to include that sort of thread. (these two I guess: Passat B5/B6/all others (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeromain?id=1) and/or Technical VW/Bodywork (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=148)) I don't see any details about the damage itself so I can't give you any more specific advice than Bronk did.
As far as the relationship is concerned I'd tend to agree that so long as you didn't crash it on purpose and she can see you're doing your best at fixing the problems, then you should have a clear conscience.. what more should be expected of you? You can't change the past. Forget I mentionned this again if you really aren't panicking because of it like you seem to be.
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Tell here the truth.. the whole truth and then promise to learn how to drive after you fix her car.
lazs
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88,
The truth without exaggerations always works best ~ especially when it comes to the people you love. Even if it hurts a bit at first, still the best.
If you do need to find a rental on a Sunday, try the airport.
My guess is she won't be as upset as you believe she will be.
Were you the one driving? It was the drivers door that was messed up? I bet she'll be pretty happy you weren't hurt.
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88,
I’m concerned about your relationship, not because you biffed her car up, but because you seem terribly concerned about her finding out about it or seeing it wrecked. This kind of thing happens in relationships all the time:
“Um, Honey, you know that rich, nearly dead, grandmother of yours who said that she is willing you everything as long as you marry while you are still a virgin?”
“Yea?”
“I think she just looked in the window while we were… you know.”
“Where happened to my Star Wars collectibles?”
“I traded them for crack.”
“What is my kidney transplant waiting list application form doing in here? I thought you mailed it in six months ago?”
“Oh, I must have forgot.”
People get over this stuff; your situation isn’t that bad. She won’t flip out that much, and if she does it’s about time you learned that about her. Storch is right.
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P.S.
I wouldn’t report this to the insurance if you have another wreck this year. Your/her rates will probably go up more than the repair costs.
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Tell her your wrecked the door, then tell her your getting a new one.
You might be able to find something on the internet, a salvage yard, or something. Google search : Drivers side door for _________
I found a door for my 72' duster for under $200 with shipping, by looking on the internet. I'm sure you can find a door for that car locally, really easy.
Good Luck.
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the damage
(http://www.augustradio.com/passat.jpg)
:(
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Mostly cosmetic then? Looks like just the panel and mirror assembly. Did you try and take it apart to see what happened underneath? You might as well get disassembling if I understood your general plan right.
There's something crooked about the front quarter panel(s) too, if I'm seeing right.
Cheer up 88, you could've not noticed the damage :) At least when it's all said and done you'll know you'll have done your best to face what you had to.
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well, that's not too bad ~ well time chocolate may be in order :)
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http://yellowpages.superpages.com/listings.jsp?SRC=portals&C=Auto+Salvage+Yards&L=Santa+Rosa+Beach+FL&MC=1&OO=1&F=1&CP=Automotive%5EWrecking%5ESalvage+Yards%5E
Try calling these places and ask them for what you need. Even ask if they know anyone that has what you need, since they usually help each other out.
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Originally posted by bj229r
Is it just the door skin? And does the damage extend to fender? VERY easy to get door skin, get it painted, get paint matched up.
Labor intensive = $$$$$
Bronk
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Originally posted by moot
There's something crooked about the front quarter panel(s) too, if I'm seeing right.
That look like just the door panel pushed out of line with the fender .
Bronk
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searching for parts...would i search for "front door panel?"
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Have you thought of taking it to a body shop?
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(http://www.bongobongostjohn.com/blog2/images/bondo.jpg)
and
(http://www.rpconline.com/catalog/content/images/tape_duct.jpg)
Sorry Jb, just had to. ;)
Bronk
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Originally posted by texasmom
88,
The truth without exaggerations always works best ~ especially when it comes to the people you love. Even if it hurts a bit at first, still the best.
If you do need to find a rental on a Sunday, try the airport.
My guess is she won't be as upset as you believe she will be.
Were you the one driving? It was the drivers door that was messed up? I bet she'll be pretty happy you weren't hurt.
JB, You have a woman in this thread giving you the best advice. My wife said the exact same thing. If you try to hide this, and get caught, you will do unestimable damage to your character, in her eyes.
Storch said to use this as an oppurtunity to learn about her character...But, remember, that applies in reverse, as well. She might think that if you wrecked her car, and just sat there waiting for her compassion, that you are simply being shallow and self-centered. The best thing you could probably do, is pick up the phone right now, tell her what happened, and that you are in the process of getting it repaired. Be honest and upfront with her, if that's the way you wish to be treated yourself.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
JB, You have a woman in this thread giving you the best advice. My wife said the exact same thing. If you try to hide this, and get caught, you will do unestimable damage to your character, in her eyes.
Storch said to use this as an oppurtunity to learn about her character...But, remember, that applies in reverse, as well. She might think that if you wrecked her car, and just sat there waiting for her compassion, that you are simply being shallow and self-centered. The best thing you could probably do, is pick up the phone right now, tell her what happened, and that you are in the process of getting it repaired. Be honest and upfront with her, if that's the way you wish to be treated yourself.
My wife just read this thread and basically said the same thing.
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well, so much for the honesty thing.
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You already have been given good advice. If you try to cover this up and not talk it out you will have incontrovertibly demonstrated a lack of maturity. That makes you a poor choice for continued long term relationship.
You need to let her know what happened and that you have already started the process to get it repaired.
Sunday is a LOUSY day for body shops and junk yards. It will not get done today so get some flowers, a dinner reservation and prepare to consume crow in prodigious quantities.
I am, of course, assuming you had permission to drive the vehicle. If not you are truly truly screwed as you have just demonstrated you are totally untrustworthy. If you cannot maintain trust in a relationship, it's already doomed.
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the deed is done.
she has been told.
not pretty.
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Originally posted by JB88
well, so much for the honesty thing.
Get a couple mirror parts, sprinkle them on parking lot beside car, come back from terminal with sweetie in tow..."OMG! LOOK what some bastard did to your car!!" "Boy, if I EVER catch that SOB...."
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Originally posted by JB88
the deed is done.
she has been told.
not pretty.
You're a good egg 88
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It's the trials and tribulations that show the quality of the relationship. You stepped on yourself with golf shoes here so it's time to pay the piper and see how it plays out. You are now in the position of penitent partner. The penance will have to be her choice.
On one hand if that is all it took to end it, you may be better off. Things can always be repaired or replaced, a person cannot. If the car matters more to her than you do, it's time to call it quits. The same would apply if the roles were reversed.
I sincerely wish you luck in this and I hope it works out for you.
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How did the car get damaged in the first place?
Inquiring minds want to know
The damage doesnt look that bad.
Might be able to pick up a new mirror at the salvage yard and for the dents, maay be able to beat them out if your good at disassembling doors.
Im a peon though. About the only repairs I have done are to 20 year old heavy trucks
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JB88....
I DO Care....so here goes.
Sounds like a t-bone, so if the accident wasn't your fault....
1) Fill her in all all what you have done to help (notifying her insurance carrier), getting repair estimates, etc, and get the repairs started ASAP.
2) Get a RENTAL car for her in the mean time (your dime).
3) A nice potted flower and BIG box of chocolates.
4) Let her know that you did not get the ticket...and it WASN'T your fault.
If somehow the accident WAS your fault:
1) Fill her in all all what you have done to help (notifying her insurance carrier), getting repair estimates, etc., and get the repairs started ASAP.
2) Get a RENTAL car for her in the mean time (your dime).
3) Offer to pay any and all deductables for the repairs.
4) A nice potted flower and BIG box of chocolates.
I'd call her BEFORE she get's home, and let her know the full deal...see above.
PUHLEASE tell me she has insurance!
If she didn't...you both kind of bear the responsibility for 100% of the damages.
Uninsured motorists are BAD.
Good luck, bro!
68ROX
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Bronk, I mean where the top of the bumper panel and bottom of the front fender meet, just ahead of the tire.
Anyway, take it easy 88... Love conquers all :D
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Originally posted by JB88
the deed is done.
she has been told.
not pretty.
Tell us more, what did she say? How was her tone?
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Originally posted by JB88
did i mention please?
:confused:
is a door something that i could buy from a yard and replace?
aggggggghhhhhh!!!!!
(pain pain pain)
p.s. (stop reveling in it...it's bad for your kharma,)
Yes, get a door and whatever parts are damaged from junk yard and replace them. Tell her that you were on the way to get her car painted in her favorite color as a surprise, when some idiot sideswiped you. Tell her that the mechanic said the parts you replaced are better than the original parts and that the new parts will increase her gas mileage and extend the life of her car! hee hee:aok
If you do not get booted after this story, then try and sale her oceanfront property in New Mexico!
:noid
Seriously, good luck with this dilemma!
Mark