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Title: <Salute>
Post by: Spikes on September 10, 2007, 09:17:05 PM
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We will NEVER forget

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Title: <Salute>
Post by: Wes14 on September 10, 2007, 09:18:52 PM
!
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Post by: Meatwad on September 10, 2007, 09:20:34 PM
especially for the fallen firefighters
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Post by: Latrobe on September 10, 2007, 09:24:17 PM
never forget. history does repeat itself. I've seen videos and pics of the trade centers burning and falling, but I've never seen a picture of one of the planes about to hit (except for the one of the guy standing on top of the trade center and you see the plane behind him.)
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Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 10, 2007, 09:34:50 PM
To all who suffered as a result of the attack.
Title: God bless
Post by: 4deck on September 10, 2007, 09:36:50 PM
:(
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Dichotomy on September 10, 2007, 09:40:54 PM
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Spikes on September 10, 2007, 09:51:48 PM
If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.

From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.

That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

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Title: <Salute>
Post by: Spikes on September 10, 2007, 09:59:06 PM
(http://www.newpantagruel.com/issues/1.3/misc/cross.jpg)

When it had all collapsed...metal in the shape of a cross, still stood.
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Post by: Jack16 on September 10, 2007, 10:02:53 PM
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Title: <Salute>
Post by: VooWho on September 10, 2007, 11:21:41 PM
to all the falling, and the love ones of the falling. :(




I was in 6th grade when 9/11 happened. My teacher got a call from another teacher, and she ran and turn on the T.V. in the class room. 5min later the 2nd plane crashes into the tower. I've never forgotten that moment in my life. I just hate kids my age these days. "Who cares it happened 5 years ago." "Who cares its GB's fault." "Oh yea I remember it, but it was so long ago."  I really want to punch these people. :furious
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Post by: BlueJ1 on September 10, 2007, 11:29:48 PM

We shall never forget.

Trade Center
The Pentagon
Flight 93
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 10, 2007, 11:31:53 PM
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Originally posted by VooWho
"Oh yea I remember it, but it was so long ago."  I really want to punch these people. :furious


So 6th grade... that's like 11 yrs old:

so you were born in 1990 +/-

Next time somebody says that to you, remind them:

You could have met someone who witnessed the first flight at Kitty Hawk, lived through 2 world wars, the depression...

That man could have met someone who remembered the assassination of Lincoln.  He may have fought in the Mexican War and the Civil War, could have worked cows on the Chisolm Trail.

That man could have met someone who remembered the cold at Valley Forge.

Just three long lifetimes seperates us from Jefferson, Washington, and Franklin.

Six years is nothing.


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Title: <Salute>
Post by: Vudak on September 11, 2007, 01:14:36 AM
I was a Senior at the time (well, should have been, anyway)...  That day was insane.  

School pretty much just stopped.  We could do whatever we wanted, really.  I chose to drive around to meet up with my friends at their various places of business.  I've never been in so many near accidents driving around.  Everywhere I went, everyone had something like those thousand yard stares of soldiers while driving around listening to the radio.  I saw many, many crashes.

One of my friends worked at a Mobil.  It's a hangout for some of the police in town.  They were running around not sure of what to do.

The next few days were spent running a convoy to and from Stop & Shop.  My friends and I pooled all the money we could together and just started filling up grocery bags full of food and water.  We made several trips a night.  We were far from the only ones.  I have never seen such a mountain of relief items piled up at our high school.  It was huge.

That Enya song, "Only Time" was playing all the time, and to this day it still makes my eyes water.  It's the song that brings me back to those times.

In a way, it was a beautiful sight.  The entire country - heck, almost the entire world - was pulling together.  I had AOL at the time and remember reading comments from all over the world expressing condolensces, sympathy, and support.  It was comforting, and heartwarming to be a human living in the Free World.

Things sure have changed in six years.

to every last one of you putting your lives on the line so I might be able to live in peace.  Regardless of any disagreements we may have, I am sincerely grateful and in your debt.
Title: Re: <Salute>
Post by: Thrawn on September 11, 2007, 01:19:34 AM
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Grayeagle on September 11, 2007, 01:31:49 AM
I was on the way to work.. at Papyrus.. heard it on the radio.

When I got there, everyone was watchin the big screen in the break room.

Osama may have thought he had really stuck it to the U.S.

I hope he likes living in caves.

His turn will come soon enough.
Preferably a sniper shot from one of our troops hunting him.

A Maverick is so .. so ... overkill.
Yanno?

-Frank aka GE
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Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 11, 2007, 01:46:26 AM
hes not wothy of a sniper's bullet. soldiers are worthy of a bullet. he is a pile of steaming feces.
It really saddens me how our resolve changed so fast. at first everyone was "yea lets get the bastage". then it became "hey, did you see american idol last night." seems to me that people are forgetting. but I and many others CANNOT forget and WILL NOT forget. I love this country more than anything and would die for it as many of our brave men and women overseas have, and to see people wanting peace without justice after he killed so many of our fellow countrymen, well it really does bring me to tears.

God Bless the victims
God Bless our soldiers
 and God Bless America
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Post by: Nilsen on September 11, 2007, 02:12:01 AM
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Post by: Jackal1 on September 11, 2007, 03:22:44 AM
That was a wakeup call for the U.S.
The sad thing is that it seems a big portion have went back to sleep.........or was in a coma like state to begin with.
Just remember that it was only a walk in the park to what can and will happen here if not prevented and fought against.
It`s not instant. It`s not even fast and will be a fight that you will most likely not see the end of in your lifetime.
Fight them there......or fight them here.
Freedom is never free.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: AWMac on September 11, 2007, 05:07:54 AM
Our lives were changed forever.

Now lets stop playing games and kill these Bastages!

I will NOT or let my Children live in FEAR!

Mac
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Tigeress on September 11, 2007, 06:32:05 AM
After 9/11, Bush said we will not let them change our way of life...

hummm...

TIGERESS
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Jackal1 on September 11, 2007, 06:41:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tigeress
After 9/11, Bush said we will not let them change our way of life...

hummm...

TIGERESS


Believe it or not, Bush did not attack the towers, the Pentagon or put one flight into the ground.
They haven`t changed our way of life , but they changed our lives forever.
The act also woke up a few to the fact that "Yes Virginia. It can happen here and will again if not fought against".
Others prefer to stick their head in the ground or up their........well in dark places and try to pawn the blame upon those who had no hand in it.
The fight will be long and hard. At least we better hope it is.
There is no touchy/feely, negoiating or any other of the limp wristed theories to deal with these folks. They only want one thing. Death to the infidels.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: AWMac on September 11, 2007, 06:47:15 AM
Islam says they will not stop until we all convert.

I say lets convert sand into glass.

Nuke these stunninghunks back to the stoneage, send them all to Allah.

A few Tac Nukes in Northern Pakistan, a hard one in Tehran.

Ohhh it's frikken Ramadan now... hello Mecca... feel the pain?

Maybe one in Damascus for good measures.

Another in Rhayad for the lieing Royal Family.

Yeah I'm bitter... Nuke me too.

Let them all know we're tired of their chit!

Mac

"Peace on Earth, Good Will towards Man"

Seems like this watermelon doesn't cut it no more.

America get out of the 3rd Grade...Recess is over.

There are NO rules in War!
Title: <Salute>
Post by: AWMac on September 11, 2007, 06:50:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tigeress
After 9/11, Bush said we will not let them change our way of life...

hummm...

TIGERESS


And I bet you think Hillary has a good National health care plan too.

Mac
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 11, 2007, 06:52:12 AM
OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...
Title: <Salute>
Post by: AWMac on September 11, 2007, 06:53:52 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...


:aok

Mac
Title: <Salute>
Post by: MrBill on September 11, 2007, 07:32:04 AM
Ahhhh Yesss the Rainbow Six scenario :D:D:D

to those who fell and those who helped!
Title: <Salute>
Post by: FBBone on September 11, 2007, 08:26:17 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
I say lets convert sand into glass.

Nuke these stunninghunks back to the stoneage, send them all to Allah.


Mac, you're smart enough to know that nuking them will bring them UP to the stone age.;)

God Bless the troops.
God bless the fallen.
God bless America.
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Title: <Salute>
Post by: JBA on September 11, 2007, 08:43:05 AM
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Originally posted by Latrobe
never forget. history does repeat itself. I've seen videos and pics of the trade centers burning and falling, but I've never seen a picture of one of the planes about to hit (except for the one of the guy standing on top of the trade center and you see the plane behind him.)



on my home computer I have an image of the FIRST plane about to hit,,That's a rare photo.

 to lose we've lost.
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Post by: Thrawn on September 11, 2007, 08:58:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...



Yay genocide!!  NEVAR FORGIT!11!!elbentyone!!111  (http://www.fatdrunkbastards.com/forums/FDB%20Images/smiley27.gif)
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Post by: Tigeress on September 11, 2007, 09:09:10 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
And I bet you think Hillary has a good National health care plan too.

Mac


Actually, I am a moderate... not too far to the right... not too far to the left.

I shudder to think if this was a one party country.

Hillary? ...just another politician.

TIGERESS
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Tigeress on September 11, 2007, 09:17:35 AM
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Originally posted by JBA
on my home computer I have an image of the FIRST plane about to hit,,That's a rare photo.

 to lose we've lost.


If you could post it I would be very grateful.

A dear friend of many years from work was on-board that plane.
I miss him as many others do... he left a wife and three children.

TIGERESS
Title: <Salute>
Post by: 68ROX on September 11, 2007, 09:27:23 AM
Please do not let HATE run rampant here.

Not all Muslims are to blame.

There are ultra-extremists everywhere....we have them here.  

Remember when those Omish kids were murdered and those wack-jobs wanted to protest the funeral?  Remember Oklahoma City?

(http://www.entertainmentworlds.com/paybackNC2.jpg)

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"
Abraham Lincoln

Stand UNITED!

Stay FOCUSED....track down and punish those RESPONSIBLE.

DO NOT LEAVE until the JOB is DONE!


68ROX
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Tigeress on September 11, 2007, 09:46:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tigeress
After 9/11, Bush said we will not let them change our way of life...

hummm...

TIGERESS

Quote
Originally posted by Jackal1
Believe it or not, Bush did not attack the towers, the Pentagon or put one flight into the ground.
They haven`t changed our way of life , but they changed our lives forever.
The act also woke up a few to the fact that "Yes Virginia. It can happen here and will again if not fought against".
Others prefer to stick their head in the ground or up their........well in dark places and try to pawn the blame upon those who had no hand in it.
The fight will be long and hard. At least we better hope it is.
There is no touchy/feely, negoiating or any other of the limp wristed theories to deal with these folks. They only want one thing. Death to the infidels.


Ya know what is interesting to me is... I stated no point of view or judgements, pro or con, about the president :)
Did the American way of life change? I think so...

I believe in walking softly and carrying a BIG STICK. :aok

Isn't war an extention of diplomacy?
Don't the two go hand in hand?

I am all for a strong military and effective diplomacy.

TIGERESS
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Tigeress on September 11, 2007, 10:17:56 AM
I personally think Islamists are as much victims as the world at large.
They are human beings who have been misguided and... brainwashed.

I find fault with Islam itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

TIGERESS

Quote
Originally posted by 68ROX
Please do not let HATE run rampant here.

Not all Muslims are to blame.

There are ultra-extremists everywhere....we have them here.  

Remember when those Omish kids were murdered and those wack-jobs wanted to protest the funeral?  Remember Oklahoma City?

(http://www.entertainmentworlds.com/paybackNC2.jpg)

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"
Abraham Lincoln

Stand UNITED!

Stay FOCUSED....track down and punish those RESPONSIBLE.

DO NOT LEAVE until the JOB is DONE!


68ROX
Title: <Salute>
Post by: cpxxx on September 11, 2007, 10:33:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...


Then you would be worse than Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein combined.

Killing millions of people just for revenge would be insulting the memory of those who died.

It is also insulting to the United States, it's people and everything they stand for.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Maverick on September 11, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
Here is a link to one of the most impressive sites that came up after 9-11. I look at it once in a while, not too often as it's incredibly powerful. I'll always have Enya's song associated with this clip.

http://attacked911.tripod.com/

It's a 7 meg load so it will take a while if you are on dial up.

to those who responded to the attack and sacrificed their lives in the hopes of saving others.

to those in harms way, may they come back home safe.



Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: AWMac on September 11, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
Thank you Mav.

<<<>>> SIR

Mac
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Yknurd on September 11, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
I don't know about all this wistful giving 's and Godspeed's...oh and Never Forgets.

What happened to all the bellybutton kicking we were supposed to be doing?  Is anyone angry anymore or are we all just impotently wringing our hands?

Why do people keep creating and posting pictures of crying eagles?  Where are the pictures of the ****ing pissed off eagles ripping the head off of some terrorist?
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Dichotomy on September 11, 2007, 12:57:33 PM
Mav, Thanks that's the best one ever in my opinion.  

I posted this on another board in a discussion about where you were that day and how it's changed you since.

"Apologies if this post is very long.

At that time I had a job I called 'my high paying hobby' I absolutely loved it and was always at work by 7:00 am. I didn't, at that time, listen to the radio at work so, when the rest of the office workers started showing up one of them said that a plane had crashed into the WTC. 'Stupid small plane pilot' I thought. A few minutes later somebody else said that another plane had hit the other tower.

My heart stopped and my blood ran cold. I knew right then and there that it was a terrorist attack. We spent the rest of the morning huddled around the radios listening to the reports.

I lived 5 miles from my office so, at 11:00 pm I went to the grocery store, bought about $200 worth of water, canned goods, etc., thinking that the next logical step could be a chemical or biological attack and Dallas / Fort Worth is a pretty decent target as well. Went home and watched about an hour and a half of the coverage and went back to work honestly angry, sad, and frustrated, that our employers demanded we stay for the whole day. My opinion of them changed dramatically that day.

I'll be honest that I was amazed at the number of calls that I had that afternoon from people who were completely unaware of what was going on and were shocked when I told them to turn on their radios. By 2:00 CST our phones had stopped ringing. I left early, picked up the squid from school, and went home to watch the coverage.

I'll never forget how surreal it was for the next week or so not seeing a plane in the air other than military and the sick sadness I felt in my heart for the families and children of the victims whose daddies and mommys went to work like any normal day and never came home.

9/11 changed me a lot. Prior to that day I was a recluse. My life consisted of working and rasing my kid. I never went out, never pursued dating, wasn't a part of any internet 'community'.

I started reaching out to people to get to know them and made a lot of friends. I also make it a point to tell everybody I love them as I leave for the day because you never really know what can happen.

Thankfully through the changes that I made after that day I've got a wife, four wonderful kids, and good friends, that fulfill me and make me happy. I can almost guarantee that wouldn't have happened for me prior to."

I don't have the answer to our problems.  It's very convienant to say 'let's just kill them all' but genocide isn't the answer in my opinion.  

I'm proud of our servicemen and wish I could turn the clock back 10 years and join them.  I'd happily put my life on the line to meet an enemy on the field of battle and stop them from ever harming another innocent person in this country or any other.

The enemy we face chooses tactics of cowardice and terror as opposed to meeting our forces strength on strength.  Let's face it they know they'd lose.

Until the world as a whole decides that this type of political expression is unacceptable in civilized society I fear we will forever be to deeply involved in this quagmire losing people needlessly and having innocent people die to collateral damage.  

Conspiracy theorists I'm sorry but I just don't see how the current administration that is portrayed as full of bumblers and fools is smart enough to orchestrate something like this.  They're either incredibly bright and have you all fooled by the dumb act or they're incredibly stupid and just let it happen by happenstance.  I choose to think that there's a lot we don't know because, at this time, we don't need to know.

We are at war in case people have forgotten and, while I rarely use Wikipedia as a reference the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_home_front_during_World_War_II is a good point of reference.  We civilians do not have the daily inconvienances that the average citizen had during those awful years.

Today I woke up, took a long shower, put gas in my car, had a good sandwich for lunch, and I'm working a decent job that has nothing to do with winning this war.

Maybe we, as a citizenry, need a little bit stronger day to day reminder of what's really going on and why.  

I have noticed that there haven't been any more attacks on our soil since all of this began and it is my belief that it's due to the efforts of some good men and women who really care and do try to make a difference.
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Post by: Denholm on September 11, 2007, 01:07:12 PM
<-- Is shrinking into his canister ready for the flaming.

I seriously think we should forget to some extent. Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and a high percentage of Muslims thoroughly enjoy the fact that this happened to us. Remembering in my opinion is giving them a pat on the back saying, "Way to go, remember what you guys did here? Brilliant idea!"

Naturally nobody will ever be able to fully forget, and I'm not saying they have to. All I'm implying is to stop making a big deal about it. One can not change the past, we should focus on changing the future. Look to prevent further incidences and continental clashes.

*Thinks he has to transfer to the local fallout shelter*
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Dinger on September 11, 2007, 04:26:36 PM
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Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime. [/B]


Look, if we're saying Shut The Füçk Up to anyone, it should be to the hate-filled bastard who suggested that we wipe out everyone who subscribed to any number of variants of a religious belief.

Sorry, days of mourning are not free passes to stir up hate. It's not the Canuck who's insulted our country, but those who, even in jest, suggest that committing even bigger atrocities will solve anything.

Look, we had the sympathy of the world, including the Islamic world -- after all, Christians and Jews weren't the only ones slaughtered by these nutjobs, nor do members of non-Muslim religions exclusively compose their targets. Somehow, through a masterful display of political cunning, we screwed it up. We were wounded deeply, but at the same time we were handed the greatest chance to improve the world for everybody. And it all got buried, not even in partisan politics, but in squabbles among advisers. That's a national tragedy, and one that doesn't cut across religious or political lines. The only unity we have left is a negative one -- we stand together in recognizing how petty personal squabbles ruined our response.

So, yes, I'm responding emotionally, and I'm saying that you can have your crying-eagle fest all you want, but the moment you turn that into an opportunity to attack a religion whose members include millions of honest Americans, you cross the line, MF. This day belongs to all Americans, not just those who want to indiscriminately kill men, women and children on pilgrimages.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Thrawn on September 11, 2007, 04:31:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Maverick
Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime.


I understand where you are coming from Maverick, and appreciate the more or less reasonably stated response to my posts.  But I totally disagree that it's not the time to post such thing.  Alot of people in this thread have obviously forgotten many things.  That such unrestrained lashing out enable the Bush administration to switch targets from Osama to Saddam for one.  Such ridiculously nationalistic glurging seems nothing like emotional self-indulgence who's main purpose is to ride the rush.  I doesn't help people "not forget", nor does it serve a useful purpose.
Title: Re: Re: <Salute>
Post by: Dago on September 11, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."


Thats the way *******, take a good and touching thread and make a really stupid  anti-Bush comment.  You really are a low class jerk.
Title: <Salute>
Post by: Vudak on September 11, 2007, 05:00:25 PM
Well, Thrawn, all I can say is up until your first post, the only thing to be found in here were 's and personal recollections of the day.

I don't see anything wrong with that, and I don't understand why we're supposed to attach the line "but of course we screwed everything up" to it.  Today's not really about second guessing ourselves, it's about remembering those who lost their lives that September day.

If you want to make your sort of comments, may I suggest waiting until March?
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Post by: Masherbrum on September 11, 2007, 05:08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I understand where you are coming from Maverick, and appreciate the more or less reasonably stated response to my posts.  But I totally disagree that it's not the time to post such thing.  Alot of people in this thread have obviously forgotten many things.  That such unrestrained lashing out enable the Bush administration to switch targets from Osama to Saddam for one.  Such ridiculously nationalistic glurging seems nothing like emotional self-indulgence who's main purpose is to ride the rush.  I doesn't help people "not forget", nor does it serve a useful purpose.
Will you for once just STFU?!!!!   You haven't had a relevant post since joining.   You're an antagonist and a tool.   Go back to your shed.   Don't even waste your time replying, I won't see it.   You have some questions to answer when your number is called upstairs.  

Now, I want to forget this day, but I cannot.    My cousin was in the Pentagon wing that was struck by the airliner.   She was by the Grace of God in another wing since that one was under construction, so her meeting was in a different area of the Pentagon.

Also on 9/11/01 I brought my newborn son and wife home from the hospital.    I was planning on holding him and letting him know "son there is a whole world out there that awaits you."    Instead it was "this is how f**ked up our world is."

I want to forget but these two things prevent it.    <> to the Fallen and the Troops.
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Post by: Denholm on September 11, 2007, 07:09:55 PM
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Also on 9/11/01 I brought my newborn son and wife home from the hospital.    I was planning on holding him and letting him know "son there is a whole world out there that awaits you."    Instead it was "this is how f**ked up our world is."

Now that's a birthday to remember.
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Post by: Thrawn on September 11, 2007, 07:39:13 PM
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You have some questions to answer when your number is called upstairs.



Masherbrum:  Speaker for God.


Passing strange that the guys calling for the genocide of muslins and to nuke untold multitudes of innocent civilians get a by from you, but not that guy that at worst is being antagonistic.  I think that says a hell of alot more about you then it does me.
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Post by: Dichotomy on September 11, 2007, 09:26:15 PM
Thrawn,

I, for one, have not called for genocide I spoke against it.  However to come into a thread of remembrance and attempt to turn it into a political thread is not really called for.  

May I suggest you start your own thread and state your own opinions?   That way if we choose not to look at or respond to it that is our right.

I don't know if you're a US citizen but if you are I've lost friends and family that died protecting your right to say what you think.  If you're not then please show a little of the class and respect that the rest of the citizens of the world accuse the average American of not having.
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Post by: Masherbrum on September 11, 2007, 09:41:53 PM
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Now that's a birthday to remember.
He was born via Caesarian on the 8th.    I brought them both home on the 11th.    When I went to my parents to show them Ian.   Their neighbor came over.   He at the time was an Assistant Chief with a Local Police Department.   When you see him, a Marine and Cop 50 years old crying, you know you've seen a lot.  

We celebrate his B-Day on the 8th.    But on the 11th, there is ALWAYS an eery feeling in the house.   We don't talk about it, but we know it's there.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on September 11, 2007, 10:05:42 PM
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I, for one, have not called for genocide ...


Geeze louise...

Make an offhand remark about killing a billion people and you're considered a pariah.  Touchy touchy..
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Post by: Toad on September 11, 2007, 10:16:24 PM
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Make an offhand remark about killing a billion people and you're considered a pariah.


As you should.

However, you're only a pariah if you're non-muslim. They get a pass because they don't know any better or something. I forget exactly why.

Anyway, when they say stuff like that you just have to understand them.

OK?
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Post by: Thrawn on September 11, 2007, 11:01:37 PM
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However, you're only a pariah if you're non-muslim. They get a pass because they don't know any better or something. I forget exactly why.



How many muslems have called for genocide in this thread?  Hell how many have made posts in the history of this BBS calling for genocide?  I'm going to guess none.  But if they did, I would give them **** for being evil morons as well.
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Post by: Tigeress on September 12, 2007, 08:02:24 AM
There is a time for reflection... and a time for war.

Remembering our dead is reflection; fighting our enemies is war.

We can and should do both, imho, not one or the other.

TIGERESS
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Post by: Toad on September 12, 2007, 09:09:29 AM
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How many muslems have called for genocide in this thread?  Hell how many have made posts in the history of this BBS calling for genocide?  I'm going to guess none.  But if they did, I would give them **** for being evil morons as well.


Written to the editors of Al-Jizz lately?

:)

I thought not.

You have to admit the Muslims generally get a pass when they scream about killing all the infidels.

Just because they don't post here doesn't make that untrue.

As for the people posting here about indiscriminate slaughter, I thought this covered that pretty well:

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Should I have said "As you should be" to make it more clear?
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Post by: Thrawn on September 12, 2007, 03:51:18 PM
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Written to the editors of Al-Jizz lately?

:)

I thought not.


Used to back when I was reading lots more news than I am now.  But not for well over a year.


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You have to admit the Muslims generally get a pass when they scream about killing all the infidels.


Perhaps, but maybe for different reasons than you may think.


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Just because they don't post here doesn't make that untrue.


Sure it's true, but what would be the point of it besides howling at the moon.  At least as far as censuring them on this BBS is concerned?  Habib the ****ed up Saudi extremists would not be impacted in anyway by it.  All it might do is reinforce associations with some people here that I don't particularly want to associate with.

On the other hand, the tards calling for "nooking" and genocide her I can at least communicate directly with.



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Should I have said "As you should be" to make it more clear?


I usually require giant arrows as well.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on September 12, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
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Perhaps, but maybe for different reasons than you may think.


So if I have the correct reason and then my virus idea might be ok?
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Post by: Carrel on September 12, 2007, 09:11:22 PM
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OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...


Hmmm...not a bad idea....we could also set it loose on Israel and kill all the Jews too. A two for one deal.

:aok
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Post by: Holden McGroin on September 12, 2007, 10:47:45 PM
Does nobody read the "Naw forget I ever said that... " part?

Novelists and scriptwriters come up with ideas all the time that could kill millions.
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Post by: Carrel on September 12, 2007, 11:24:44 PM
Yup. Hitler wrote a book.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on September 12, 2007, 11:25:58 PM
Seems to me it wasn't a novel.
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Post by: Carrel on September 13, 2007, 12:54:55 AM
Nope. It was a screenplay.
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Post by: Ghosth on September 13, 2007, 07:41:14 AM
I was actually logged in to AH flying when someone came across channel 1.

"Someone just flew a plane into one of the twin towers"

Your kidding!

"No, watching it on tv as I was flying"

What happened?

"Towers on fire, they calling it a terrorist attack"

What channel

"ALL channels"

At that point I alt F4'd out and ran to my TV.
Was sitting there amazed and saw the second bird go in.
For a week about all I did was sit and watch, switching between fox and cnn.

We have lost so much, but the time for grieving is over.

Remember, yes, NEVER forget, never let THEM forget either.
But OBL is still out there, and its time we found him and his crew.
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Post by: VonMessa on September 13, 2007, 10:55:28 AM
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I was a Senior at the time (well, should have been, anyway)...  That day was insane.  

School pretty much just stopped.  We could do whatever we wanted, really.  I chose to drive around to meet up with my friends at their various places of business.  I've never been in so many near accidents driving around.  Everywhere I went, everyone had something like those thousand yard stares of soldiers while driving around listening to the radio.  I saw many, many crashes.

One of my friends worked at a Mobil.  It's a hangout for some of the police in town.  They were running around not sure of what to do.

The next few days were spent running a convoy to and from Stop & Shop.  My friends and I pooled all the money we could together and just started filling up grocery bags full of food and water.  We made several trips a night.  We were far from the only ones.  I have never seen such a mountain of relief items piled up at our high school.  It was huge.

That Enya song, "Only Time" was playing all the time, and to this day it still makes my eyes water.  It's the song that brings me back to those times.

In a way, it was a beautiful sight.  The entire country - heck, almost the entire world - was pulling together.  I had AOL at the time and remember reading comments from all over the world expressing condolensces, sympathy, and support.  It was comforting, and heartwarming to be a human living in the Free World.

Things sure have changed in six years.

to every last one of you putting your lives on the line so I might be able to live in peace.  Regardless of any disagreements we may have, I am sincerely grateful and in your debt.



     This is EXACTLY the reason that we will not see another attack on American soil for at least quite a while.  The perpetrators of this attack may be  evil, etc, but they are not stupid.  As we stand here six years later, it does fade from memory, and time IS the cure for most wounds of the soul/spirit (maybe not for those directly involved).  What I'm saying is that we CAN NEVER LET THIS FADE FROM MEMORY.  I would play videos of the attack EVERY DAY on prime time TV if it was up to me.  The way it is now, most  Americans do not feel as acutely outraged anymore (again except for those directly involved), therefore I believe that we (as a country) are living more "in fear", per se, of "terrostists".  This is exactly what they tried to achieve, hence the root word "terror".

     IF the towers did not fall.
     IF so many weren't harmed
     IF so many others did not perish in the rescue attempts

the terrorists, would still have achieved their goals.  They took four jets and didi what they pleased with them and now WE ARE AFRAID(for the most part), and it is reflected in the changes we were forced to make in the way we run this great nation
.  Anyone who travels in this great land knows what I mean.

     Shoe X-Rays???????
     Patriot Act.  (its my right as a private citizen to remaion just that)
     Extremely long security checkpoints (run mostly by clock punchers who aren't very attentive anyway)
     What do you mean I can't even take a bottle of water onboard, now?


     Now that they have put the fear in us(not making accusations, just observations) they will not attack so blatently again.  Goal achieved.  To do so will only strenghten our reslove, and have all of us pulling in the same direction again.  Is I said, evil, not stupid they won't risk it. (reference Hiroshima/Nagasaki) not to justify the attacks on Japan, but just to show that  we can only be pushed so far.  After all......   we WILL put a boot in your ass, it IS the American way!
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Post by: Toad on September 13, 2007, 12:55:57 PM
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....Habib the ****ed up Saudi extremists would not be impacted in anyway by it....  

...On the other hand, the tards calling for "nooking" and genocide her I can at least communicate directly with.



Well, seems to me that it would be far more productive to find a way to communicate directly with Habib and express displeasure than it would be to communicate with tards hear calling for nooking and genocide.

Habib and his ilk, unlike the tards here, may actually kill significant numbers of people.

I seriously doubt anyone on this BBS is really considering doing that and I further believe that those here know there will be no nooking.
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Post by: Shaky on September 13, 2007, 01:29:16 PM
I was at work....

In a major U.S. city (not NYC)....

In a firehouse....


I'll let you guess what my thoughts were.