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Title: Red Skelton
Post by: FBplmmr on September 12, 2007, 07:47:45 PM
http://www.getipm.com/personal/red-skelton.htm (http://www.getipm.com/personal/red-skelton.htm)


    "I've been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all  semester and it seems as though it is becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word?"

I    me, an individual, a committee of one.
Pledge    dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self pity.
Allegiance    my love and  my devotion.
To the flag    our standard, Old Glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever  she waves, there's respect because your loyalty has given  her a dignity that shouts freedom is everybody's job!
United    that means that we have all come together.
States    individual communities that have united into 48 great states.  Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose; all divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that's love for country.
And to the republic    a state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.
For which it stands, one nation    one nation, meaning "so  blessed by God"
Indivisible    incapable of being divided.
With liberty    which is freedom  -- the right of power to live one's own life without threats, fear or some sort of  retaliation.
And Justice    the principle or quality of dealing  fairly with others.
For all    which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine.

    Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance...

    UNDER GOD    Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too?

God Bless America!
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: RedTop on September 12, 2007, 07:53:57 PM
Nice Post
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Tango on September 12, 2007, 08:57:25 PM
Its better to listen to him say it. He also says it was a teacher, Mr. Laswell, that told him and his class this explaination of the Pledge of Allegiance.

http://www.spiritisup.com/pledgeofallegiance.html
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Ripsnort on September 12, 2007, 09:08:08 PM
Red was one of my favorites as a child.  I actually loved the Red Skelton show more than Batman. :)
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Maverick on September 12, 2007, 09:25:31 PM
Some of his shows were saved even though in his will he wanted them destroyed. They were released in video tape format some time ago. We got as many as we could before we went on the road full time and had to give them up. That episode about the pledge was one of them and it was indeed a great part of that tape.

He was a true comedic genius. He could have you rolling on the floor and not use a single swear word in the process.
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 12, 2007, 10:15:46 PM
I never saw him but the name rings a bell as beng funny.  On that note penguins are funny animals.
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: nirvana on September 12, 2007, 10:30:17 PM
48 states?
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 12, 2007, 10:31:14 PM
astroturf?
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: midnight Target on September 12, 2007, 10:35:47 PM
I remember hearing Buddy Hacket talk about Skelton. Red was not the goody 2 shoes you might think. Once he (Skelton) set up a movie projector outside Hacket's house and projected a porn movie onto Buddy's garage door. I guess the neighborhood was a little peeved.
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 12, 2007, 10:39:35 PM
Buddy Whacket?
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: rpm on September 12, 2007, 10:41:56 PM
Red was by no means Mr. Perfect. He had a notorious gambling habit as well. But, we're all human and his gifts of comedy and humility trump any bad habits he may have had.

Clem Cadidillhopper was my favorite character from his show. I'll always remember his sign off..."and may God bless."
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: FBplmmr on September 13, 2007, 05:12:01 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
48 states?


Alaska and Hawaii didn't become states until the late 50's hence this line...

" Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance..."




"Its better to listen to him say it. He also says it was a teacher, Mr. Laswell, that told him and his class this explaination of the Pledge of Allegiance.

http://www.spiritisup.com/pledgeofallegiance.html  " hence the line...

"      http://www.getipm.com/personal/red-skelton.htm "

 :huh
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: 68ROX on September 13, 2007, 08:19:26 AM
We cannot blame the younger members of our community for their lack of history knowledge....

School systems rarely teach 20th century history.




68ROX
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: FBBone on September 13, 2007, 09:14:02 AM
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Originally posted by 68ROX
We cannot blame the younger members of our community for their lack of history knowledge....

School systems rarely teach.




68ROX

Fixed.
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Maverick on September 13, 2007, 11:28:26 AM
Actually the school systems still teach. There is a bit of a problem in what they are teaching at times. Things like self esteem, no one loses, everyone is a winner, don't hurt the kids feelings by actually holding them to a standard of learning as opposed to real subject matter. Couple that with parents who didn't do much other than housebreak their kid and feed them full of stuff like they have more "rights" than the school or teacher does and only the teacher is responsible for their little darlings learning anything. Not to mention that the parents will sue the school / teacher if their little darling gets upset.

You can take a kid to school but you can't force a kid to learn anything if they are not motivated to do so and the parents don't care. If the kid is not held accountable to show they actually have done the work, and met standards so they can be promoted you get kids who did learn the system will push them through if they work or not. They get very surprised to find the rest of the world is not like that and they will be expected to actually work later on.
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Tiger on September 13, 2007, 11:39:52 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Actually the school systems still teach. There is a bit of a problem in what they are teaching at times. Things like self esteem, no one loses, everyone is a winner, don't hurt the kids feelings by actually holding them to a standard of learning as opposed to real subject matter. Couple that with parents who didn't do much other than housebreak their kid and feed them full of stuff like they have more "rights" than the school or teacher does and only the teacher is responsible for their little darlings learning anything. Not to mention that the parents will sue the school / teacher if their little darling gets upset.

You can take a kid to school but you can't force a kid to learn anything if they are not motivated to do so and the parents don't care. If the kid is not held accountable to show they actually have done the work, and met standards so they can be promoted you get kids who did learn the system will push them through if they work or not. They get very surprised to find the rest of the world is not like that and they will be expected to actually work later on.



Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

My wife teaches 2nd grade, she has kids in her class who can't legibly write the alphabet, one that doesn't know the alphabet past "J", and several that can't add 3 + 2 even when using their fingers to help them.  The district has a policy that you cannot 'fail' a student and hold them back without the parent's permission regardless of what the student does (or in these cases does NOT) learn.


Back to topic:

Red was brilliant, I wish someone would follow in his footsteps
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Ripsnort on September 13, 2007, 12:09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Tiger
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

My wife teaches 2nd grade, she has kids in her class who can't legibly write the alphabet, one that doesn't know the alphabet past "J", and several that can't add 3 + 2 even when using their fingers to help them.  The district has a policy that you cannot 'fail' a student and hold them back without the parent's permission regardless of what the student does (or in these cases does NOT) learn.




Sounds like a Kalifornia-based policy.  They certainly don't have that policy in our school districts here in WA state.:eek:
Title: Red Skelton
Post by: Maverick on September 13, 2007, 01:03:12 PM
Rip,

It's the same in Southern Arizona too. When I was subbing I had one kid in a class who had a desk in the corner facing the back wall. When I took roll that day the rest of the kids said little "johnie" (not the real name) would be in after 9:00 AM when his Dad brought him in. School started at 7:50. Dad got a call every day from the school advising him that lil' johnie wasn't in school again. Dad had to leave work, get the kid out of bed and drive him to school. Lil' johnie also never took a test or did any work. He just put his name on the paper and put his head on the desk and went to sleep.

I asked this kid why he did this. He said very mater of factly that he had been doing it for 3 years and he know the school was going to pass him anyhow so there was no reason to do the work. He was in 5th grade at that time. When I asked him what he thought he was going to do for a job, he said his Dad was a foreman at his job and would give him a job when he got out of highschool. He figured he would be able to sleep in late then too.

This kid was not the only one to figure things worked this way either. I saw it way too often.