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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Holden McGroin on September 13, 2007, 06:37:33 AM
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Eating less meat (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/ap_on_sc/eating_less_meat)
LONDON - Eating less meat could help slow global warming by reducing the number of livestock and thereby decreasing the amount of methane flatulence from the animals, scientists said on Thursday.
In a special energy and health series of the medical journal The Lancet, experts said people should eat fewer steaks and hamburgers. Reducing global red meat consumption by 10 percent, they said, would cut the gases emitted by cows, sheep and goats that contribute to global warming.
Sounds like a bunch of bull s***
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If they really cared about the earth they would spend their research trying to find us other planets to colonize instead of dictating how often a sheep should fart.
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Once the whole "man made global warming" thing became a debate.... it pretty much ended... they got nothing.
About the only country that is really still buying the whole scam is england... and look what they have been reduced to? talking about a 10% reduction in cow farts...
The man made global warming thing came in like a lion but went out like a cow fart...
lazs
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"methane flatulence ", do i see a new fuel source here?
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I'm doing my part to quickly kill and eat as many of these ugly "Methane" producers as possible.
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As I have stated in another thread.
I dont care if it causes the earth to heat up and toast like a marshmallow
I aint giving up my beef!
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wouldn't eating less meat mean there are more living animals thereby being counter productive?
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Those animals are bred.
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Originally posted by moot
Those animals are bred.
i thought animals were meat, not bread.
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what it boils down to is that if you are married to the whole greenhouse gas myth then you have to see the elephants in the room... water vapor and methane.... man can't cause water vapor (95%+ of greenhouse gas) and co2 is becoming a non event (man made or otherwise) sooo....
You are stuck with methane if you are one of the man made global warming acolytes... man can affect methane sooo... lets run that one up the old flagpole and see how many sheep salute.
lazs
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I personally just added to the problem:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
The man made global warming thing came in like a lion but went out like a cow fart...lazs
If I can squeeze that into my sig. limit I will...
LMAO
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Eat more free range chicken! They are overrunning the forests of South America and devastating the ecology.
:O
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eating less meat = more cows living = more cow farts = more methane = more global warming
It's the vegetarians fault !!!
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PETA is evil.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Sounds like a bunch of bull s***
Not quite, but coming soon. :)
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WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A new analysis of peer-reviewed literature reveals that more than 500 scientists have published evidence refuting at least one element of current man-made global warming scares. More than 300 of the scientists found evidence that 1) a natural moderate 1,500-year climate cycle has produced more than a dozen global warmings similar to ours since the last Ice Age and/or that 2) our Modern Warming is linked strongly to variations in the sun's irradiance. "This data and the list of scientists make a mockery of recent claims that a scientific consensus blames humans as the primary cause of global temperature increases since 1850," said Hudson Institute Senior Fellow Dennis Avery.
Other researchers found evidence that 3) sea levels are failing to rise importantly; 4) that our storms and droughts are becoming fewer and milder with this warming as they did during previous global warmings; 5) that human deaths will be reduced with warming because cold kills twice as many people as heat; and 6) that corals, trees, birds, mammals, and butterflies are adapting well to the routine reality of changing climate.
Despite being published in such journals such as Science, Nature and Geophysical Review Letters, these scientists have gotten little media attention. "Not all of these researchers would describe themselves as global warming skeptics," said Avery, "but the evidence in their studies is there for all to see."
The names were compiled by Avery and climate physicist S. Fred Singer, the co-authors of the new book Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years, mainly from the peer-reviewed studies cited in their book. The researchers' specialties include tree rings, sea levels, stalagmites, lichens, pollen, plankton, insects, public health, Chinese history and astrophysics.
"We have had a Greenhouse Theory with no evidence to support it-except a moderate warming turned into a scare by computer models whose results have never been verified with real-world events," said co-author Singer. "On the other hand, we have compelling evidence of a real-world climate cycle averaging 1470 years (plus or minus 500) running through the last million years of history. The climate cycle has above all been moderate, and the trees, bears, birds, and humans have quietly adapted."
"Two thousand years of published human histories say that the warm periods were good for people," says Avery. "It was the harsh, unstable Dark Ages and Little Ice Age that brought bigger storms, untimely frost, widespread famine and plagues of disease." "There may have been a consensus of guesses among climate model-builders," says Singer. "However, the models only reflect the warming, not its cause." He noted that about 70 percent of the earth's post-1850 warming came before 1940, and thus was probably not caused by human-emitted greenhouse gases. The net post-1940 warming totals only a tiny 0.2 degrees C.
The historic evidence of the natural cycle includes the 5000-year record of Nile floods, 1st-century Roman wine production in Britain, and thousands of museum paintings that portrayed sunnier skies during the Medieval Warming and more cloudiness during the Little Ice Age. The physical evidence comes from oxygen isotopes, beryllium ions, tiny sea and pollen fossils, and ancient tree rings. The evidence recovered from ice cores, sea and lake sediments, cave stalagmites and glaciers has been analyzed by electron microscopes, satellites, and computers. Temperatures during the Medieval Warming Period on California's Whitewing Mountain must have been 3.2 degrees warmer than today, says Constance Millar of the U.S. Forest Service, based on her study of seven species of relict trees that grew above today's tree line.
Singer emphasized, "Humans have known since the invention of the telescope that the earth's climate variations were linked to the sunspot cycle, but we had not understood how. Recent experiments have demonstrated that more or fewer cosmic rays hitting the earth create more or fewer of the low, cooling clouds that deflect solar heat back into space-amplifying small variations in the intensity of the sun.
Avery and Singer noted that there are hundreds of additional peer-reviewed studies that have found cycle evidence, and that they will publish additional researchers' names and studies. They also noted that their book was funded by Wallace O. Sellers, a Hudson board member, without any corporate contributions.
Steak for dinner tonight....
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That gives a lot of credence to Lazs' contention that:
It's the sun, stupid!
Word.
Mark
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Seriously now - you guys still think man has no effect on the world he lives in?
You guys are like cats - crapping in a litter tray and "amazingly" it gets tidied away the next day..
There is no way that cats can contribute to the smell of a house!
Wake up - humanity is a factor
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Originally posted by Flint
Seriously now - you guys still think man has no effect on the world he lives in?
You guys are like cats - crapping in a litter tray and "amazingly" it gets tidied away the next day..
There is no way that cats can contribute to the smell of a house!
Wake up - humanity is a factor
Yes but the smell is not warming the house is it? Thats the fundamental problem. I am not against cleaning up pollution, but I am against misinformation, especiallywhen that msinformation starts people pursuing things like reducing the worlds food resources.
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India has the most cows. Nuke India and save the world.
and we can get some tech support I can understand
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Akiron, you're evil!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I agree with Tiger on this one, as well as pretty much every other beef eating person in this thread. Chop it up, barbecue it and serve it up.
Beef, it's what's for dinner!:t
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India doesn't even eat their cows. They even let them block traffic. What a waste.
PETA continues to suck!
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
PETA continues to suck!
HERE HERE!
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(http://www.twofistedtees.com/shirts/rariteez/screw_peta200x200.jpg)
(http://www.peta-sucks.com/godscreatures1.jpg)
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Originally posted by AKIron
India has the most cows. Nuke India and save the world.
and we can get some tech support I can understand
And who's gonna answer the helpdesk calls then?
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
PETA continues to suck!
Nuke PETA.
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vulcan.. can you link that article.
mark... It is not "lazs" so much as all the scientists and their data that says so. I simply read 100's of peer reviewed papers and followed the links... I tried my bet to get the man made global warming priests and followers view but... they had none... the math wasn't there and they couldn't dispute their rivals math.
As for the kitty litter in the house thing... that is about the way the computer models work... Those kinds of soundbites work on the simple minded.. you can't compare 2 square foot of untented litter box in a 1,000 square foot house to some harmless and odorless gas in quantities of 0.18%
To say that pollution never magically goes away is pretty dense too... what happens to all the pollution mother nature spews? forest fires? volcanoes? oil seeping out of the ocean? el nino... la nina? Of course the earth cleans up pollution... hell... why drink water? fish crap in it!
When it comes to panic and doom and gloom... you can never underestimate peoples gullibility.
lazs
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http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,176495.shtml
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Nuke PETA.
I am a PETA member.....People Eating Tasty Animals
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Originally posted by C(Sea)Bass
I am a PETA member.....People Eating Tasty Animals
Apparently you've forgotten about........................ ..............
The SURF and Turf special................:t
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Originally posted by john9001
"methane flatulence ", do i see a new fuel source here?
I saw a show on discovery where a dairy farmer (?) collected the cow manure to store in a special shed that collected the methane gas put off by said manure and used the gas to power his home.
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Originally posted by Elfie
I saw a show on discovery where a dairy farmer (?) collected the cow manure to store in a special shed that collected the methane gas put off by said manure and used the gas to power his home.
that a *****ty way to do it:D
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I'll do my part and eat some nice steaks tomorrow evening :D
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Originally posted by Flint
Seriously now - you guys still think man has no effect on the world he lives in?
You guys are like cats - crapping in a litter tray and "amazingly" it gets tidied away the next day..
There is no way that cats can contribute to the smell of a house!
Wake up - humanity is a factor
Sorry - it is not supported by statistics or science. Recycling the carbon isn't the issue...but it is a fantastic political issue. Everyone can jump on board...rah rah rah!!
If I were here during the last ice age, and the ice began to melt (as it did off the northern US) I'd be SWEARING there was GLOBAL WARMING. In fact, there was.... just like now.... a normal cycle.
Recall, the ice ages came and went many times.....
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Originally posted by Vulcan
And who's gonna answer the helpdesk calls then?
Little doubt it'll be someone willing to work cheap and speak english only sorta. :(
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Originally posted by lazs2
vulcan.. can you link that article.
mark... It is not "lazs" so much as all the scientists and their data that says so. I simply read 100's of peer reviewed papers and followed the links... I tried my bet to get the man made global warming priests and followers view but... they had none... the math wasn't there and they couldn't dispute their rivals math.
As for the kitty litter in the house thing... that is about the way the computer models work... Those kinds of soundbites work on the simple minded.. you can't compare 2 square foot of untented litter box in a 1,000 square foot house to some harmless and odorless gas in quantities of 0.18%
To say that pollution never magically goes away is pretty dense too... what happens to all the pollution mother nature spews? forest fires? volcanoes? oil seeping out of the ocean? el nino... la nina? Of course the earth cleans up pollution... hell... why drink water? fish crap in it!
When it comes to panic and doom and gloom... you can never underestimate peoples gullibility.
lazs
I didn't mean to indicate you were alone in that opinion just that the paper seemed to vindicate you and your signature. I am in agreement with you here, not opposing.
Mark
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thanks mark... I am just saying that I can't take credit for simply repeating what I have read.
Here is an interesting bit... it is a part from an interview with Avery... the interviewer after listening to Avery's explanations on warming and cooling cycles asks this question....
"If this is such a good explanation -- and it does seem to make sense -- why do you think there are so many scientists out there who say that man is responsible for global warming?
Well John, if people believe me, there wouldn't be 2 billion dollars a year in federal research grants to set-up computerized climate models, Greenpeace wouldn't be selling memberships to people terrified of warming, and Al Gore would have to get a real job."
This is for all the sheep that think that there is no money in being an alarmist and preaching doom and gloom... That all these "scientists" are doing it out of love of humanity and science.
The man made global warming hoax is a huge business. It plays on the fears and guilt of the insecure and the follower. It gives fame and fortune and power to those who could not come by it honestly... or at least... could not come by it so effortlessly.... it is effortless these days to be funded if you sing the praises of the high priests of man made global warming.
lazs
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10% of an oversized Ameruuuukannn meat portion ...
can feed a whole village in some parts of the world I think.
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Originally posted by straffo
10% of an oversized Ameruuuukannn meat portion ...
can feed a whole village in some parts of the world I think.
When the villagers attack and come for it they had better bring more than sticks and spears.
You ain`t gettin my T-bone Homie. :)
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Originally posted by AKIron
Little doubt it'll be someone willing to work cheap and speak english only sorta. :(
Sat through a phone conversation between my wife and one of these kinda/sorta speakers yesterday.
There was a hilarious ten minute segment while my wife tried to explain what a "W" was in the spelling of an address.
I was lmao.
:lol