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Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: humble on September 14, 2007, 09:28:53 AM
russian a-20 (http://www.airpages.ru/cgi-bin/epg.pl?nav=us50&page=a20)

Was browsing and couldn't help notice the 4 x 20mm option:aok
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 14, 2007, 11:09:52 AM
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Elevon/baugher_us/a20-17.html
The A-20G was first ordered on June 1, 1942 and first delivered in February of 1943. It introduced a solid nose armed with four 20-mm M2 cannon with 60 rpg and two 0.50-inch machine guns with 350 rpg. The four cannon were grouped in the forward part of the nose and projected well forward of the nose, with the two machine guns further back in the lower part of the nose. This new nose was introduced as a result of combat experience in the Pacific, where glass-nosed A-20s had been fitted with field modifications to increase their forward firepower during low-level strafing missions. The new nose made the A-20G slightly longer than previous variants. The A-20G retained the 0.50-inch flexible machine gun with 500 rounds in the rear cockpit, as well as the 0.30-in or 0.50-inch tunnel gun. The dorsal gunner's position was no longer equipped with emergency flight controls, and provision for photographic equipment was also deleted. Heavier-gauge armor plate was used, adding some 400 pounds to the weight. Carburetor deicing equipment was added.

However, the 20-mm nose cannon had a slow rate of fire and were prone to jamming, and after 250 aircraft were completed, the four cannon were replaced by four 0.50-inch machine guns beginning with the A-20G-5-DO production block. Two more 0.50-inch machine guns were added in the lower portion of the nose, bringing the total number of forward-firing machine guns to six. Most of the cannon-armed A-20Gs were eventually turned over to the Soviet Union.-All above from site

60 rpg would be expended very fast. only 250 were built and they were very unreliable. The A-20 we have now is far better.
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: Rino on September 14, 2007, 11:51:37 AM
Reliability isn't a factor in AH though.
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 14, 2007, 11:59:07 AM
But still, 60 rounds per gun. Thats a very very short attack run.
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: Tiger on September 14, 2007, 12:22:50 PM
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Originally posted by C(Sea)Bass
But still, 60 rounds per gun. Thats a very very short attack run.


How many rounds do you get on the Hurri D?
And the big gun on the 25?
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: Karnak on September 14, 2007, 01:06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Tiger
How many rounds do you get on the Hurri D?
And the big gun on the 25?

Those have the excuse that they are much bigger than 20mm.

60 rounds on a 20mm is about 6 seconds of firing time.

21 rounds on the 75mm is near a minute.
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 14, 2007, 01:22:49 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Those have the excuse that they are much bigger than 20mm.

60 rounds on a 20mm is about 6 seconds of firing time.

21 rounds on the 75mm is near a minute.


hurri D was 40mm wasn't it?
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on September 14, 2007, 01:50:30 PM
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However, the 20-mm nose cannon had a slow rate of fire and were prone to jamming.



Wait, slow rate of fire, is that slower than most 20mm or slower than a .50?
If its a slower fireing 20mm that could make the small ammo load usefull.

"shrugs"
Title: How about a "russian" A-20...
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on September 14, 2007, 02:59:38 PM
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Wait, slow rate of fire, is that slower than most 20mm or slower than a .50?
If its a slower fireing 20mm that could make the small ammo load usefull.

"shrugs"

If they would give a firing rate that could be determined. I do think it says that they were shVAK(sp.?) cannons, so possibly the same 20mm on the russian fighters? in that case they would not be slow enough, but if the were like the 37mm or 40mm then yes the firing rate would make up for the small ammuntion load.

either way I would say get the A-26 instead of another A-20. The A-26 is better in almost every aspect.