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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AWMac on September 15, 2007, 07:26:21 PM
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Starting to have a lil prob with a new Cop that moved into the area.
I lived here for 12 Years never a prob. This new Cop moves in and feels he's gonna clean up... Clean up what?
We have a great community, we can leave cars and houses unlocked, kids bikes in the front yard... Nothing is ever stolen... Hell when the dogs get out all the neighbours call each other... here's yer dog. WTF is he gonna clean up?
I found an Bright Orange sticker on my car, Monte Carlo that is parked on my curb.... I either move it or it's towed away at my expense. Dammm my house, my car... I removed the sticker and walked over two houses down and placed it on his car. WTF?
Can any Law types here offer any advice on how to deal with a Young Cop doing stupid chit?
Mac
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Yep call his supervisor. Be polite and explain what this young kid is doing on his off hours in your neighborhood and ask him if he can speak to the guy.
If that doesn't work, invite everyone in your neighborhood over for a loud drunken party in your backyard except for him. When he shows up to "keep the peace" tell him if he removes the nightstick out of his butt from now on he is welcome as well.
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Sounds like a plan.
Man this guy is just way out there.
Like "If I make Crime happen, I have a Job."
Hate to see this kinda crap happen to a good Community.
But "He's the LAW!"
Sad,
Mac
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Tell him you can show him his future, then show him the video on youtube that has been on the news, taped when a cop so full of himself was nasty to a young guy for no reason. The cop is now on unpaid leave while his future is decided.
Jerky Cop Tape (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3f9mj37SeMY)
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Originally posted by Dago
Tell him you can show him his future, then show him the video on youtube that has been on the news, taped when a cop so full of himself was nasty to a young guy for no reason. The cop is now on unpaid leave while his future is decided.
Jerky Cop Tape (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3f9mj37SeMY)
That cop was more annoying that that clicking sound throughout that whole video:furious :noid
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What was that clicking noise?
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I have alotta respect for Police Officers, Firemen, EMS...Hell I'm Retired Army.
But this young Cop is way out there...
Wish his Supv would just snatch his arse up by the ears.... I don't want to ruin a young mans Career but if he can't get his act together he has no Career.
We NEVER had a prob in the Community... NEVER... well a cat did have kittens... That's about the extent here.... Late at night the dogs talk... "PAWS ON NEWS!"... 'Ol Murphys cat is knocked up again...Bruno has a DRY Nose... Bark, Bark,,,,, WooF"....
This is where I live and I love it... quiet, simple, easy.... Now this NEW Cop wants to run the neighbourhood... WTF?
Sad to see this happen,
Mac
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Originally posted by PanzerIV
What was that clicking noise?
His radar detector. Too bad it wasn't an jerk detector. It would have been clicking like wild.
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Originally posted by Dago
His radar detector.
Thanks, I was wondering what that was.:aok
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Aren't radar detectors illegal in most states?
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only in a few states curval
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Very simple. Pick up a bag of dope, plant it in his car.
Then call the cops LOL
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Or just take a big ole' Dump on his car. :rolleyes:
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Mac,
Hornet gave you the straight scoop. There is a follow up however if it doesn't work. That's simply calling internal affairs and make a formal complaint about his off duty activities. In the mean time, move the car just a foot or so. If another sticker shows up move it back a foot. As long as it is moved he has nothing to stand on.
You might want to talk to your neighbors and see if he's pulling the same crap with them. If he is, have them also call his supervisor and or IA. Multiple complaints gets major attention quickly.
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I too have a Cop living down the street, and let me tell you what...
He's a great guy, and he has a cruiser parked on the street which just gives us all a much more law and order feeling than most streets lol.
It's been a wierd time for Sikboy and the Police. I had my first trial last week, and my first Cross-Examination was a very good DWI Squad Cop. He was a slippery witness but he only mischaracterized the truth once, and that was the prosecutors fault (he covered for her very well, though the Jury didn't buy it). I thought that while acting as a defense attorney I would have worse interactions with the police, but I'm quite surprised at how professional everyone is when it's their job.
Though I have to admit, I'll be happier when I can wash the slime off from my stint as a Defense attorney lol.
-Sik
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Sikboy, you need to check out these 2 blogs by attorney's near you. You might know these guys.
Both are former procecutors.
http://skattershooting.blogspot.com/
http://www.iwasthestate.blogspot.com/
I particularly like this quote from IWTS:
"The title is from the Code of Criminal Procedure. The duty of a prosecutor is not to convict, but to see that justice is done."
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stop parking illegally.
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Local laws vary but I can think of only two reasons for towing a car parked in front of your own house. Expired registration or it's parked facing the wrong way. I think you should inquire as to why your car should be towed. If it's an eyesore maybe more than one of your neighbors complained?
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I @@#@# HATE cops.
When I was a teenager, when I was suPPOSED to hate cops, I never saw anything wrong with them, never had any run-ins with them (perhaps living in a high-crime, metropolitan area like Tampa produces a better quality of police officer, who can better see the 'big picture') For the last 12 years, I've lived in a rural area, adjacent to a quiet, LOW-crime city (Roanoke) , in a quiet, LOW crime county (Roanoke) which has more cops than you can shake a stick at. There's naught for them to do in crime-fighting, so to justify their existence, they set up speed traps on back-water country roads, at the bottom of LONG downgrades, (which down-shifting doesn't even save you from passing the limit, forcing you to ride brake) pull people over at random to inform them of mud covering license tag....you get the picture.
Last year I had a guy follow me thru 4-5 turns...saw him back there, assumed he must be going same place s me, except I was going in circles around a building trolling for a parking space. He blocked me as I parked, turned on his bubbles, and threatened to write me 5 tickets for failure to use a signal while turning (I looked away from him, counted to 10, and said "sorry, won't happen again") 5 moving violations would take my license for YEARS, getting me fired from job, etc. Had I been 20 years younger, I would have pointed out, "WHEN YOU ARE ON A 1-WAY, IN THE RIGHT-TURN-LANE, GOING ONTO ANOTHER 1-WAY, IT'S PRETTY G#$##$%#$ OBVIOUS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO!"
Now that I'm 47, and have a mortgage and a kid entering college, I can see the bigger picture, and being surrounded by salamanders hassling non-criminals as they go about their lawful lives, is a minor trade-off for living in a nice place.
(Mac, follow afore-mentioned salamander around with a camera with telephoto lens....EVERYbody does something in the course of a day they would rather not be recorded:D )
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Originally posted by bj229r
I @@#@# HATE cops.
When I was a teenager, when I was suPPOSED to hate cops, I never saw anything wrong with them, never had any run-ins with them (perhaps living in a high-crime, metropolitan area like Tampa produces a better quality of police officer, who can better see the 'big picture') For the last 12 years, I've lived in a rural area, adjacent to a quiet, LOW-crime city (Roanoke) , in a quiet, LOW crime county (Roanoke) which has more cops than you can shake a stick at. There's naught for them to do in crime-fighting, so to justify their existence, they set up speed traps on back-water country roads, at the bottom of LONG downgrades, (which down-shifting doesn't even save you from passing the limit, forcing you to ride brake) pull people over at random to inform them of mud covering license tag....you get the picture.
Last year I had a guy follow me thru 4-5 turns...saw him back there, assumed he must be going same place s me, except I was going in circles around a building trolling for a parking space. He blocked me as I parked, turned on his bubbles, and threatened to write me 5 tickets for failure to use a signal while turning (I looked away from him, counted to 10, and said "sorry, won't happen again") 5 moving violations would take my license for YEARS, getting me fired from job, etc. Had I been 20 years younger, I would have pointed out, "WHEN YOU ARE ON A 1-WAY, IN THE RIGHT-TURN-LANE, GOING ONTO ANOTHER 1-WAY, IT'S PRETTY G#$##$%#$ OBVIOUS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO!"
Now that I'm 47, and have a mortgage and a kid entering college, I can see the bigger picture, and being surrounded by salamanders hassling non-criminals as they go about their lawful lives, is a minor trade-off for living in a nice place.
(Mac, follow afore-mentioned salamander around with a camera with telephoto lens....EVERYbody does something in the course of a day they would rather not be recorded:D )
Rural cops have nothing better to do. So they become traffic nazis.
Bronk
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I hate to say that my last three interactions with the police have been less than satisfactory. I'm sure there are a lot of good ones out there that are trying their best to do a difficult and dangerous job but it seems to me that, more and more, the jerks and a-holes are the ones that gravitate toward this profession. My next door neighbor was a cop until she got sick of the bs and changed her job to postal inspector.
I got to spend a night detained because my record was screwed up and on their little computer screen it said I was driving on a suspended license. The cop would not allow me to SHOW HIM THE LETTER FROM THE DPS in my briefcase that it was not suspended and it was a clerical error that they were correcting.
Fortunately with a phone call I got the case dropped but I'll never get the night of being treated like a common criminal back. I didn't even get my phone call or my miranda until 2:00 am.
I don't want to dislike cops but I certainly don't trust them the way I used to.
It used to be if you treated a police officer with respect, even when he was going to write you the ticket anyway, they responded in kind. A lot of times I got a warning and a 'have a nice day'. The last three I dealt with treated me like S@#t regardless of how polite I was to them.
Recently during rush hour the local authorities organized a 'stop every car and check for insurance' checkpoint. When I raised hell with the city council the response I got from the police department was it was their way of keeping up their traffic safety responsibility. They got a little upset when I accused them of attempting to generate revenue instead of stopping the break in that happened 2 blocks away.
Oh well. I keep my nose clean, don't speed, and keep my tags and inspection up to date. I don't really have much to worry about but I'm still wary of them.
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My experience is most cops are basically good guys putting up with a ton of crap, but a few over-inflated egos make the rest look bad.
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police personnel perform the vital social function of providing law enforcement. without these dedicated people in place the whole of society would sink into anarchy and terror. if you follow the rules by which a society needs to conform to you will seldomly have a problem with law enforcement personnel. if they behave outside of the strict guidelines set forth by our representative government they are held accountable.
a few weeks back my daughter was test driving a new car she wanted to purchase. they were pulled over by an unmarked car plus about seven other marked units pulled out of the vehicle tossed to the pavement which was scaldingly hot cuffed and dragged to the swale. this occurred during a period in time when two deputies were shot in the line of duty and they were hunting white cars with stolen tags.
it turns out the deputies were correct in their procedure. the tag was lost by the dealership and reported stolen. it had been in the salesmans desk and he went away on vacation. the day my daughter went for a test ride was the dudes first day back. the police acted accordingly and with concern for their personal safety. I don't fault the police.
personally I have nothing but respect for LEPs and I show due deference whenever I deal with them. they are providing a service to us which I gladly pay for.
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Have you tried talking to this man? ...getting to know him?
Shoot, invite him and his wife over to your house for a few hamburgers and beer and if he is actually a decent guy you can make friends with him.
So many people assume a combat attitude with problem people but most of them are ok once you get to know them. Having a police officer living in the neighborhood is a good thing, in my opinion.
Just keep his number handy in case of a problem and he can get there much faster than a dispatcher sending a squad car... if he is off duty and at home.
Forget the initial warning on the parked car and try to make him feel welcome to the neighborhood.
I wish I had a police officer for a neighbor... I am afraid to go out after dark unless I am driving.
TIGERESS
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Tigeress,
While what you posted is somewhat understandable you have to understand something. When you are off duty you are not the neighborhood protector, or enforcer. In my department doing that off duty outside of a department approved off duty job would get you administratively punished. If it continued to happen you would end up fired.
I did not want to be bothered by neighbors who had small neighbor issues, most of which could not be handled outside of oprah or judge judy's tv show. I just wanted to be done with the job and have a life outside of work. When I was off duty I was OFF DUTY and not someones little puppet to deal with their petty problems. The neighbors could call the on duty Police and make their problems known.
If my being in the neighborhood helped the hemorhoids go somewhere else, that's fine but I did not want to deal with them on my time. I had my own life and wanted to be concerned with that on my off duty time.
In the case that Mac posted, that guy is setting himself up for a career change and likely deserves to be removed from the job if he can't learn that he's not supercop.
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Originally posted by bj229r
I @@#@# HATE cops.
Now that I'm 47, and have a mortgage and a kid entering college, I can see the bigger picture, and being surrounded by salamanders hassling non-criminals as they go about their lawful lives, is a minor trade-off for living in a nice place.
I can sympathize with you BJ. Sorry to hear that.
I get hassled by certian folks in Aces High just because I am a woman and love to fly... I know how it feels to be singled out and treated poorly by one ore two. Sorry you have to put up with being hassled where you drive.
The universe has a very strange way of turning the tables on those who cause trouble for people though... I think of it as those who generate bad karma cause themselves to get it back from out of nowhere without warning... from something or someone else entirely.
The few folks who have hassled me here do not represent the vast majority of people in Aces High. There are a lot of nice and decent people here with lots of good karma.
Good Luck and hope it gets better for you
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Maverick
Tigeress,
While what you posted is somewhat understandable you have to understand something. When you are off duty you are not the neighborhood protector, or enforcer. In my department doing that off duty outside of a department approved off duty job would get you administratively punished. If it continued to happen you would end up fired.
I did not want to be bothered by neighbors who had small neighbor issues, most of which could not be handled outside of oprah or judge judy's tv show. I just wanted to be done with the job and have a life outside of work. When I was off duty I was OFF DUTY and not someones little puppet to deal with their petty problems. The neighbors could call the on duty Police and make their problems known.
If my being in the neighborhood helped the hemorhoids go somewhere else, that's fine but I did not want to deal with them on my time. I had my own life and wanted to be concerned with that on my off duty time.
In the case that Mac posted, that guy is setting himself up for a career change and likely deserves to be removed from the job if he can't learn that he's not supercop.
Hi Maverick
I certianly understand what you are saying. I wasn't thinking in terms of squabbles or hissy-fits between neighbors, rather... friends who come to the defense of friends in times of real trouble like a break-in in progress.
I thought the police are the police 24/7 in the case of a serious crime in progress.
I have a neighbor, a single man, who looks out after me and told me I can rely on him if a serious problem arose if necessary. Even if it was just talk, it makes me feel more secure.
TIGERESS
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Tigress,
What are you going to do, call your neighbor on the phone or are you going to call the agency that has jurisdiction? Your neighbor won't have his equipment on to ID him as a Police Officer to either the suspect or the later arriving on duty officers. That puts the neighbor in even more danger as he has no back up, no primary equipment, unless he stops to get dressed in uniform then respond to your house. He possibly probably won't any means of communication with Officers en route to tell them who he is and what the description of the circumstances are while they are on the way.
Yep the Officer is a 24/7 responsibility, it does not mean they are on call or on duty 24/7 unless it is a bonafide emergency where life is in danger. Then they are expected to deal with the situation until the on duty units arrive.
The very real sad fact is that it isn't the life and death emergency that happens where they are going to be dealing with an intense situation. It IS the neighbor squabbles that they get hit with. The fights between the neighbors kids, if not the parents, barking dogs and all the ways folks find to not get along.
Just because a Cop lives in your area they are not your neighborhood keeper.
If you have a plumber that lives on your street, do you expect them to be responsible for your plumbing just because they live on the block?
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Originally posted by Maverick
Tigress,
What are you going to do, call your neighbor on the phone or are you going to call the agency that has jurisdiction? Your neighbor won't have his equipment on to ID him as a Police Officer to either the suspect or the later arriving on duty officers. That puts the neighbor in even more danger as he has no back up, no primary equipment, unless he stops to get dressed in uniform then respond to your house. He possibly probably won't any means of communication with Officers en route to tell them who he is and what the description of the circumstances are while they are on the way.
Yep the Officer is a 24/7 responsibility, it does not mean they are on call or on duty 24/7 unless it is a bonafide emergency where life is in danger. Then they are expected to deal with the situation until the on duty units arrive.
The very real sad fact is that it isn't the life and death emergency that happens where they are going to be dealing with an intense situation. It IS the neighbor squabbles that they get hit with. The fights between the neighbors kids, if not the parents, barking dogs and all the ways folks find to not get along.
Just because a Cop lives in your area they are not your neighborhood keeper.
If you have a plumber that lives on your street, do you expect them to be responsible for your plumbing just because they live on the block?
I understand Maverick... point taken
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Tigeress
I understand Maverick... point taken
TIGERESS
This kind of response just won't do here. You're supposed to call him a socialist or something.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
This kind of response just won't do here. You're supposed to call him a socialist or something.
hahahahaha!!!!!!!! Tooo funny!!!!
TIGERESS
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if I ask a question that has been asked already....
1. Does the car in question run?
2. Has it been sitting in one place a long time?
3. Is it a derelick?
4. Did this Cop put the tag on it?
5. Does the Cop have long hair muscular build and talk with a lisp?
6. If yes to 5.. Does the Cop carry a large knife with a hollow handle?
If you answered yes to 5 & 6 call Col. Samuel Trautman. I saw a movie once where he attempted to save another small town like yours.
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Hey guys ! and gals !!!
20yrs on the force...
Yes there are rotten apples outhere !
You will find 'em in every proffessions ! Doctors-lawyers-teachers etc....
I see young rookies getting on the job and do match some of the actions you have described.
I will admit that for the first couple of years on the job, some of us are walking tall and brave etc...
That usually calms down depending on the maturity of the individual...
Police officers are often critisized for doing their job. That's ok, we are trained to expect the negative bs.
The public is the police ! We need the public to fight against crime... Without you, our success in crime solving/prevention would be at a minimum.
In regards to traffic / parking enforcement, someone has to do it !
Municipal / state laws were implemented for purposes.
Highway traffic laws are also important for every one !
In regards to stopping vehicles in the rural areas, well guess what !
Sometimes we hit the jackpot ! (crime in progress !)
If you are in order with vehicle laws and rules of the roads, you don't need to worry !
Yes we are on duty 24/7 !
Uniform or not !
If our behavior crosses the "line" while out of uniform, the police association will investigate and we can be reprimanded !
If the officer is being "smart" and is using his authority while out of uniform, line up your fatcs and contact his supervisor.
Be professional and I'm sure you will be treated same !
Best of luck !!!
Well that's my input !
Salute !
Phil:aok
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Originally posted by Maverick
Tigeress,
While what you posted is somewhat understandable you have to understand something. When you are off duty you are not the neighborhood protector, or enforcer. In my department doing that off duty outside of a department approved off duty job would get you administratively punished. If it continued to happen you would end up fired.
I did not want to be bothered by neighbors who had small neighbor issues, most of which could not be handled outside of oprah or judge judy's tv show. I just wanted to be done with the job and have a life outside of work. When I was off duty I was OFF DUTY and not someones little puppet to deal with their petty problems. The neighbors could call the on duty Police and make their problems known.
If my being in the neighborhood helped the hemorhoids go somewhere else, that's fine but I did not want to deal with them on my time. I had my own life and wanted to be concerned with that on my off duty time.
In the case that Mac posted, that guy is setting himself up for a career change and likely deserves to be removed from the job if he can't learn that he's not supercop.
A squealing MEN. In my father in law's neighborhood. A cop was ignorant enough to get involved with a lying neighbor and trumped up "adultery claims". The cop checked a "clean neighbors" license plate and was questioned the Chief. The Cop answered, and the Chief dug deeper, the cop was fired because all of this was "Off Duty".
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Mac,
It sounds to me as if the vehicle in question was being considered "abandoned".
Now the meaning of this varies from jursidiction to jurisdiction but in alot of areas it is considered a vehicle that does not have one or more of the following:
1. Valid Registration
2. Valid Inspections
3. Ability to move under it's own power ( ie missing wheels or other necessary parts)
4. Has not been moved in over 48 hours.
Having that said if you think this guy is going overboard or acting out of line as was suggested I would contact a supervisor from his department.
Be polite advise him of your concerns and you can stress you dont want to file a formal complaint ( unless you feel that is what is needed) you would just like him talked to about the situation.
You could also just talk to the guy in person to see what the issue is from his perspective.
However you should be aware even though the vehicle is in front of your house next to the curb it is still considered a highway and therefore public domain.
If your area does not have a local ordinance against "junk vehicles" ( meeting the criteria above for abandoned vehicles) you could simply move it onto your property and the problem is solved.
Im curious as to if this guy is a "rookie" as alot of times these officers have to learn the ropes and how to relax and understand this is a job. Unfortunately this takes some time with newer officers but most eventually grow out of it, note I said most.
At times rookies can be annonying, even to their fellow officers, until they learn to adjust to the job, the responsibility and yes the power.
My thinking is that your vehicle was in violation of either being an abondonded vehicle or a junk vehicle and this guy put you on notice for it.
If it was a violation and he did this while he was working there is not alot a supervisor can do for you as he is enforcing the "law".
My best advise would be to talk to the guy and see what the problem is and be courteous and polite (even though I know you probably want to strangle him). If he explains your vehicle is in violation of something tell him you were not aware as you have been doing this for years. Ask him what needs to be done to fix the problem and get it taken care of.
The reason I say this is the best advise I can give you because if this guy is a rookie (or just being a tool) taking it to a personal level may relax him a bit, being as you are now personally aquainted, and may keep him from in the future from worrying about "petty" things. And if he does have an issue with you in the future he may just come and speak to you about it personally.
Hope this helps you out.
Edit: BTW if you do speak to him you may want to start off by letting him know you were ticked off when you put the sticker on his car and it was a knee jerk reaction.
And for the record it sounds to me like this guys being a tool.. I am not on his "side" on this just giving you best advise I can come up with..
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Originally posted by bj229r
I @@#@# HATE cops.
Man you dont even know me:aok
BTW Im not a cop...... Im just a guy whos job happens to be a police officer... The job does not define the man. :aok
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The car in question is mechanically sound. I moved it from the curb to my driveway. The reason it was parked at the curb is that I have two Daughters with cars and are constantly in and out. My drive way has room for 4 cars, 2 bicycles and 4 cats not to mention assorted birds... dead and alive, did I mention the cats?.
In the 2 years or so that I parked the car at the curb there was never a question concerning it. I drive it when the wife is at work with the Jeep. The car is a 2002 Monte Carlo. I live in a Cul~de~Sac and the car does not restrict any traffic whatsoever. The registration, tags and insurance is up to date.
WTF?
Mac
BTW thanks for the advice sgt203 <>.
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Originally posted by Shuffler
Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if I ask a question that has been asked already....
1. Does the car in question run?
2. Has it been sitting in one place a long time?
3. Is it a derelick?
One thing you guys gotta consider, this is Oklahoma and Mac we are talking about. I'll lay 3 to 1 odds the cop is from some big city up north and not a native.
The guy probably honestly thought the car... well, let's just say, he ain't from around here.
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Yep that's was what I reckoned...
I moved the car, the cats, the bicycles and some dead birds...
Anything for World Peace.
:aok
Mac
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And a (cough)clean record.
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Yep
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"Municipal / state laws were implemented for purposes."
to raise money?
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Originally posted by sgt203
Man you dont even know me:aok
BTW Im not a cop...... Im just a guy whos job happens to be a police officer... The job does not define the man. :aok
And you're probably a pretty good one that reacts favorably when you pull someone over they turn on their inside light (if it's dark) and make sure their hands are clearly visible until you have reached the vehicle. If they speak respecfully to you you return the favor in kind and, in some cases, let your judgement decide to let them go with a warning. Sadly my friend I think you're becoming a dying breed. I hope I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by storch
a few weeks back my daughter was test driving a new car she wanted to purchase. they were pulled over by an unmarked car plus about seven other marked units pulled out of the vehicle tossed to the pavement which was scaldingly hot cuffed and dragged to the swale. this occurred during a period in time when two deputies were shot in the line of duty and they were hunting white cars with stolen tags.
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Storch, I agree to a point, especially given the circumstances, but....
An (assumably) young(er) lady with a car salesman does not add up to a threat worth "drag out of car, face plant in dirt, ask questions later" behavior. Although the officers may have been acting within the scope of their duties, did you not wonder why they didn't do an ID, or possibly a Terry Search, or give them a chance to explain that they were on a test drive.
I live in Philly, and believe you me, I see some of the crap that cops put up with. Most are square fellows until you disrespect them or make their job harder un-necessarily. I have all the respect in the world for the police that are protecting my neighborhood, but if that happened to my daughter, I can't say that I wouldn't be having a "chat" with my attorney, until I(we) found some divergence from proper procedure. I mean come on, daddy's little girl, (again, unsure of age), but, sometimes there is such a thing as too extreme.
I do not single you out, its just that your post leapt out at me. I have seen some very atrocious things done to some very innocent people under the "within the scope of my duty" umbrella. Sometimes right outside my front window. I'll use the anology of do you REALLY need the 10 lb sledge hammer when a framing hammer will suffice? Sure the sledge will work, but was it necessary.
I'm certainly not trolling here, just had to get that off my chest. I'm a firm proponent for the rights granted to me and others by the 4th amendment, and beilieve that anyone who is an officer should have the wherewithall to tulips the threat level of a situation, and ask questions first if no immediate threat is appearent.
Storch
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Before you complain, set up some kinda crude camera and record this dude and or take a few pics. Photograph and save anything he puts on your car, leave him no room to concoct a BS story.
An alternative to filling out CF forms, is to call his direct watch commander, make sure to speak with someone with at least the rank of LT... some Sgts are protective of 'their' guys, Lt's are usually command staff, have little loyalty to the patrol grunts, and would cite their mom on mothers day if policy dictated.
If he's young, new and on probation, or worse field training, a complaint about off duty antics will definitely cause him to re-evaluate his behavior. If he's in field training, a T/O worth his weight in salt would make Mr parking commando write a few dozen page research paper on "Professionalism in law enforcement while off duty".. one of the 1st things 'they' tell you is not to get in urine for distance contests with your neighbors.
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
And you're probably a pretty good one that reacts favorably when you pull someone over they turn on their inside light (if it's dark) and make sure their hands are clearly visible until you have reached the vehicle. If they speak respecfully to you you return the favor in kind and, in some cases, let your judgement decide to let them go with a warning. Sadly my friend I think you're becoming a dying breed. I hope I'm wrong.
TY Dichto....
I always try and be as respectful as possible to everyone I deal with unless there is a reason not to..
I know that normally the situation is more stressful for them than it is for me, so I find no reason to escalate a situation by being (for lack of better term) an prettythang...
I find most of the time it is the young officers that receive most of the complaints about their behavior, both on and off the "job". And most of the time it is simply that.... they are young.
Most eventually "get it" and learn how to better deal with people but as with any profession you have those that dont and never will.
And yes I do react favorably when someone I stop does the things that you described. But I do have to say most of the time ( if I had to guess I would say 80%) I already know prior to speaking to them if they are getting a citation or not. I base this upon the nature of the violation.
For example :
A red light... Had the light just turned... Normally a warning. Was it red so long that had cross traffic been moving there would have been a crash..... Normally a ticket.
Speeding... How fast were they going 10-15 over most likely a warning.. 16 + over the limit normally a ticket.
Meaning is it obvious to everyone, including the driver, they were commiting a violation that was dangerous for themselves and others.
TY for your kind words sir <>
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Super-rookie comes around you car again, just yell out the window "hey bellybutton hole, get away from my car". That should do it. :D
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Originally posted by Dago
Super-rookie comes around you car again, just yell out the window "hey bellybutton hole, get away from my car". That should do it. :D
naw call the cops saying someone is messing with your car and they might be trying to steal it.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
naw call the cops saying someone is messing with your car and they might be trying to steal it.
You forgot to add "and I think he has a gun". :rofl
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I personally have no love, nor hate against anyone who chooses to be a cop. There are good cops, there are bad cops. Most experience being arrested, they doing there job. All the times I have ever been arrested, I only seen 2 bad cops. Maybe I am getting soft, but I would rather be on the light side rather than the dark side. Hence, stay the hell away from the police.