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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Phil on September 18, 2007, 04:23:04 AM
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Ladies and gents...
Been watching the "Dogfights" series on the history chanel...
Love the Europeen battle scene in the movie Pearl Harbour...
Was impressed with Saving Private Ryan and freaked out when I watched the Band Of Brothers....
I've seen the Memphis Belle and enjoyed it !
Battle of Midway was also good....
Tuskeegee Airman was also pretty good !
Dark Blue Skies was sharp too !
Now the classic Battle of Britain ?
I enjoy watching it and so on....
With today's movie technology and few spitfires(50 worldwide), why is it that there is no "remake" of that film ?
According to documentaries, the BoB was a "flop" at the box office when it came out !
With the computerized animation capabilities and sound effects, I would freak out having tha chance to see a remake of that movie !!!!
So you guys outhere(overseas/ Great Britain / England / France), have you ever asked yourselfs that question ?
Isn't there any movie producers like "Spielberg- Tom Hanks" that would be able to provide a budget to make such a movie ?
I've been told that the big boys to make such movies are in the United States and not in the U/K ! Is that a valid comment ?
Here in Canada, when war doumentaries/movies come out, they're ok but
not of quality like the big league in the U.S.A !!!!
Last weekend I attended a Battle of Britain memorial(Ottawa, Canada) where the owner of 3 fighters flew and landed. (SPITXVI-Huricane- P51)
What a sight it was !!!! I asked Mr Mike Potter if he was ever approached to have his collection available for movie parts.
He advised that he was asked in the past. Apparently the British were looking into it....
Any of you guys outhere in Britain / France / England can comment on this ??
tks
Phil
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There is nothing wrong with the original Battle of Britain, it is a great movie.
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Originally posted by Xargos
There is nothing wrong with the original Battle of Britain, it is a great movie.
Agree... except for the music which was more blase' than rousing, or blood stiring.
Still pull out the DVD every other month or so to watch it.
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Ben Affleck.
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yep, would end up starring Ben Affleck, Tom Cruise and Keannu Reeves. Costarring Jessica Simpson as Petunia.
A classic love story where American Volunteers single handedly win the Battle of Britain, all the while caught up in a nasty love triangle.
I agree with Xargos, nothing wrong with it as it is.
RTR
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FWIW, I would rather watch the 1969 real aerial footage over the current generation of CGI cartoon garbage we see today.
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Wait for the Dambusters remake... ;)
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Be careful about taking films for history. Most of these aren't bad, but they are only renditions of history and all leave something to be desired.
Not as a historical comment but purely technical, did you know that one of the main 109's used in BoB wasn't even a 109? Its a Spanish made HA 1112 from after the war. Its currently in the Kalamazoo Air Zoo.
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Yes, I'd be very disappointed if they remade that movie
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Brought up the question and have lots of respects towards the classic original Battle of Britain movie !
I would love to see a movie regarding that war period (Air battles) with today's movie tech and tools.
I 'm sure the outcome would be good !
We still have few WWII birds flying around etc....
Just a thought !
Salute !
Phil
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Originally posted by Phil
With today's movie technology and few spitfires(50 worldwide), why is it that there is no "remake" of that film ?
According to documentaries, the BoB was a "flop" at the box office when it came out !
With the computerized animation capabilities and sound effects, I would freak out having tha chance to see a remake of that movie !!!!
Wait a sec... just read this properly...
They used real aircraft for the filming of the BoB, many genuine veteran pilots... over 100 real aircraft, how could CGI improve it?!
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With Hollywood being so bored that they're chunking out R rated movies similar to muffins in a baking factory I would dread the day that anybody decides to "re-make" this spectacular film.
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I was 10 when I saw the original in the theater. It was no "flop" to me then or now. CGI would ruin it as they'd have A2A at 100ft with impossible ACMs.
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Has it been released on DVD in its full length? The only DVDs I have seen are the horrid short version.
If you like BoB make sure and find a way to watch the “Peace of Cake” mini series as well.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
If you like BoB make sure and find a way to watch the “Peace of Cake” mini series as well.
thanks, I found this
Piece of Cake (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Piece+of+Cake+dvd&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=33511&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search)
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Originally posted by Eagler
thanks, I found this
Piece of Cake (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Piece+of+Cake+dvd&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=33511&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search)
Thats it, if you have never seen it, it is well worth the money.
The book was a good read as well.
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The book is much more entertaining than the TV series.
Recently watched Flyboys - even my girlfriend was laughing at the ridiculously unrealistic dogfights. That bit when the lead character does a 'Maverick' using his tail-wheel as you would use a filleting knife on a fish was great. :D
Thanks Hollywood, but no thanks.
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Originally posted by Eagler
thanks, I found this
Piece of Cake (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Piece+of+Cake+dvd&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=33511&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search)
Derek Robinson - the author of 'Piece of Cake' has done several great books based on WW2 RAF and WW1 RFC pilots. Highly recommended.
I took my handle from the squadron leader in his first book, 'Goshawk Squadron'.
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The BoB movie is actually very very good, and well looked into.
Even today, the only factor where Hollywood would top it would be in the animation department.
I'd love to see a BoB movie though. Wouldn't have to be that script, and should rather be made by non-Hollywood. Say Anglo-German co-op?
Anyway, the best BoB stuff seen since that movie is Dark blue World.
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in the 1969 film..what did all the planes have in common?
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They were not computer generated :D
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(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/d/db/Excalibur_Merlin.jpg)
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1969 film, is it rolls royce engines that all the planes have in common?,
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Originally posted by expat
in the 1969 film..what did all the planes have in common?
Merlins
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Originally posted by Viking
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/d/db/Excalibur_Merlin.jpg)
^Merlin^
For those who didn't get the obscure movie reference.
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Originally posted by expat
in the 1969 film..what did all the planes have in common?
You broke them ?
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Originally posted by Furball
Wait for the Dambusters remake... ;)
Yeah - I bet they rename Gibson's dog, in order to conform to PC. :rolleyes:
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I bet they have Americans fly the Bombers
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There was an american pilot who flew on the dambusters raid (AJ-"T" for Tommy) Joe McCarthy who had enlisted in the RCAF.
Tronsky
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but hollywood will Have Tom Cruise and Owen Wilson and Vin DIesel in B-17s.
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Just finished reading "The Few" by Alex Kershing yesterday and was channel surfing, lo and behold the MGM HD channel was running BoB movie. Still a great film to watch, brought back memories of sitting in the on post theater at Wright-Pat AFB as a kid watching it as a new release in 1969. :aok
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I would love to see a Band of Brothers style story of the Eighth Air Force. My only problem is that I know the CGI guys would get carried away...
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The capability is there to do great lighting, shapes, maps, and with a bit of math they could plug in actual airspeeds, g-loads, etc.
Wouldnt have to be about the whole months long affair .. they could just pick a single day and follow the pilots thru it, say .. a few days before the Luftwaffe switched to London, when Fighter Command was on the brink of extinction. .. the issue was very much in doubt, and the Luftwaffe just kept coming.
-GE
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yep, would end up starring Ben Affleck, Tom Cruise and Keannu Reeves. Costarring Jessica Simpson as Petunia.
A classic love story where American Volunteers single handedly win the Battle of Britain, all the while caught up in a nasty love triangle.
I agree with Xargos, nothing wrong with it as it is.
RTR
:rofl :rofl thats so true. Hollywood are great at bending the truth..look at how accurate "Braveheart" was.
But its a fantastic film, I brought it the other week.
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:rofl :rofl thats so true. Hollywood are great at bending the truth..look at how accurate "Braveheart" was.
But its a fantastic film, I brought it the other week.
william wallace went through traitors gate and was hung, drawn and quartered with his body parts put on display at various locations throughout the land. I forget whether that part made the film.
:pray no remakes of BofB.
"Monkeys can fly better than that" "dagga dagga dagga!
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Repeat please
Wurzel
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just dont let michael bay do it
:mad: :o :furious
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If they remade the Dambusters, would Gibsons dog still have its real name?
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Not from what I've heard, they are definitely changing it.
;)
Wurzel
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Repeat please...
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Tom Hanks? Steven Spielberg? Are you kidding? Please, not another feel-good-lack-of-moral-ambiguity-big-hurrah WWII movie.
If Clint Eastwood did the remake, it might be good.
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remake of the holy of holies !!!!!!! good god sir never!!!!!
you cant improve on perfection , mind you id say the same about the dambusters ....
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repeat please :x
classic :aok
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I would love to see a Band of Brothers style story of the Eighth Air Force. My only problem is that I know the CGI guys would get carried away...
It is the artistic license taken by the directors that mucks up movies like Pearl Harbor and Flyboys. They have no interest in being faithful to history or even physics. CGI has great potential to recreate history on screen.
There is also the market to consider. Movies like Battle of Britain and Tora! Tora! Tora! were made for an audience that remembered the actual events. The problem is an embarrassing lack of historical knowledge in the movie viewing demographic, especially here in the United States.
For the record, the original BoB is a great film. A very difficult act to follow.
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If they remade the Dambusters, would Gibsons dog still have its real name?
They are remaking it and no IIRC.
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You guys do realize this thread is nearing the 2-year mark?
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permission for a test flight?, oil pressure gauge...
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Scroll up for my ancient response.
And now, Skuzzy may lock this thread as I have made my appearance.
Thank you Skuzzmeister!
:salute
RTR