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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: A8TOOL on September 20, 2007, 06:14:41 AM
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There might be someone here with a knowledge of law that can predetermine what the outcome might be. Only my guess but it might fall into the hate crime category because a noose or nooses were hung on that tree. Here in Chicago it's against the law to burn a cross on someones lawn or deface jewish property with swastikas. Then again it is against the law to vandalize anyones property in any way but somehow falls in a lesser misdemeanor category even if a white guy does it to another white, brown or black guy.
Without a doubt, aggravated battery was committed by 6 individuals and supposably Louisianan does not have a law against what the other kids did.
So are they fighting to have the laws changed in that state,the white kids put in jail or the release of the others.
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Check this out, here's a news' linky to it. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070920/ap_on_re_us/school_fight
The thing here is, It looks kinda like the stuff that lead up to the Rodney King riots. I bet that the judge and jury pass the verdict and senteces afraid of what will happen outside the courtroom as soon as it happens.
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you just can't have a good riot without negros.
Should be fun.
lazs
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:rofl Lazs says some hilarious stuff sometimes.
I think the whole situation reeks of racism, but not in the way you think. To see the black community support 6 kids who nearly beat a helpless kid to death is ridiculous. Then I realize that the 6 kids were black, while the nearly dead kid was white. Then it becomes OK.
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I thought it was about Jena Jameson, or Jena Haze.:furious
Who cares about those black thugs, they'll probably end up in jail anyway sooner or later.
I'm also quite sure the KKK is following the outcome of the procecussion with great interest.
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"We didn't bring race in it," Al Sharpton said. "Those that hung the nooses brought the race into it."
I'm pretty sure white and black people were both hung from nooses. So just because white kids did it in the deep south means it's racist?
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I replied to this in the last topic we had about it... and said all I need to.
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Well I wasn't sure how this post would spin for sure but the original question was What are they protesting exactly?
On one side their guilty by law and on the other there is no law to prosecute by. How does this become a civil rights movement. Seems silly but i guess it's all about the noose.... oops, can I still say that word .:noid
Anyway, watched the news and it doesn't look good for the people of that town. The supporters are bringing their own food and water so as not to add to the economy of the town and the store owners are closing up and leaving. Many of the towns people are doing the same which might not be a good idea since their leaving their toilets behind too. Chances are there will be too many people and not enough of anything there.
I'm sure the police presence has been increased and there might even be governmental relief OTW as well. It could cost us a lot of money and probably make good news but whats it all for? I'm sure some are there for what they believe in but others will definitely be getting out of control if it lasts more than a day there. Chances are the defendants will be moved to a different location and court will be held there.
It's going to be interesting to watch and hopefully someone has a plan to de bunk it. I wonder what will happen at the next OJ trial in a year or so? Ain't no way he is going to get off of that one scott free. With 6 felony charges one has got to stick. America should or i really mean WON't stand for another OJ circus shocker and this incidents not helping. Hummm, so why all of a sudden. Are they linked somehow? I don't get it.
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Sharpton, who helped organized the rally, said this could be the beginning of the 21st century's civil rights movement, one that would challenge disparities in the justice system..................
You're right Al, so let's drop the "hate crime" clause, and sentance everyone fairly.
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I don't know the context of the nooses that were hung. To my knowledge, far more white men were hung than black. That means, a noose should offend white men quicker.....or....
Was it in the context of racism? If so, those kids should have been punished.
If the argument is that the white kids got off, so the black kids should get off, that's bs. One mistake doesn't mean you stop pursuing the law.
1. No one was physically injured in the notorious noose incident.
2. Prosecute the black thugs to the fullest extent.
3. Revisit the offense with the nooses. If it was racial, punish the white kids.
These protests, in my opinion, set back the black race in this country. They don't advance their cause.
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Al Sharpton is a Martin Luther King Jr. wannabee.
What a tool.
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Well I wasn't sure how this post would spin for sure but the original question was What are they protesting exactly?
On one side their guilty by law and on the other there is no law to prosecute by. How does this become a civil rights movement. Seems silly but i guess it's all about the noose.... oops, can I still say that word .:noid
Anyway, watched the news and it doesn't look good for the people of that town. The supporters are bringing their own food and water so as not to add to the economy of the town and the store owners are closing up and leaving. Many of the towns people are doing the same which might not be a good idea since their leaving their toilets behind too. Chances are there will be too many people and not enough of anything there.
I'm sure the police presence has been increased and there might even be governmental relief OTW as well. It could cost us a lot of money and probably make good news but whats it all for? I'm sure some are there for what they believe in but others will definitely be getting out of control if it lasts more than a day there. Chances are the defendants will be moved to a different location and court will be held there.
It's going to be interesting to watch and hopefully someone has a plan to de bunk it. I wonder what will happen at the next OJ trial in a year or so? Ain't no way he is going to get off of that one scott free. With 6 felony charges one has got to stick. America should or i really mean WON't stand for another OJ circus shocker and this incidents not helping. Hummm, so why all of a sudden. Are they linked somehow? I don't get it.
this thread
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=214306&highlight=hate+crime
covers a few "details" of the case, but every time I see it on the news the story changes and gets more distorted.
of course the po' black kids did nothing wrong gang beating a guy and they should just be let go. they didn't know what they were doing, and whitey is just keeping them down.
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Originally posted by TalonX
...These protests, in my opinion, set back the black race in this country. They don't advance their cause...
no truer words said in a thread dealing with race ever.
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Originally posted by TalonX
Why doesn't your post count go up with each post?
I noticed it stuck at 7786, only because you have two in a row.
Each post isn't counted individually. They are all counted together and put under the avatar of every post, regardless of when it was made.
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Originally posted by lazs2
you just can't have a good riot without negros.
Should be fun.
lazs
What the hell man, you been following me?
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sharpton is all for crying racism whenever it's white on black, meanwhile he can say that obama is acting "too white" by not showing up to the protests.
Isn't that in itself a hypocritcal statement?
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This pretty much sums up how I feel:
Walters said he didn't charge the white students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged. In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record.
"It is not and never has been about race," Walters said. "It is about finding justice for an innocent victim and holding people accountable for their actions."
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Where the Hell is Jesse Jackson?
:huh
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There should be public outcry over mistreatment and injustices to fellow man. Once you bring race into the equation it's nothing but political.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Where the Hell is Jesse Jackson?
:huh
He was complaining that Barak Obama was "acting too white" in Obama not making stronger statements regarding the Jena 6.
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Sharpton and Jackson keep racisim alive so the have a job,big money,private jets...........the nooses on the trees should have their name on it and their neck in the noose:furious
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I was there last week for thier Homecoming game and was talking to a couple of parents on the sidelines. They said the first time Jackson and Sharpton came down there was 3,000+ blacks protesting and the only locals that was there were the accused family members. All the rest were bused in from around the country.
They said it was Sharpton and Jackson that are turning this into a race issue and forgetting that Bell has a rap sheet longer than your leg.
From what I saw, the stadium was packed and the whites and the blacks were intermingled in the stadium watching and enjoying the HCing. NOT what you would expect if there was racial tensions.
Oh, there was hightened security though. Four BIG State Troopers down on the side lines watching the game.
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Originally posted by Tango
I was there last week for thier Homecoming game and was talking to a couple of parents on the sidelines. They said the first time Jackson and Sharpton came down there was 3,000+ blacks protesting and the only locals that was there were the accused family members. All the rest were bused in from around the country.
They said it was Sharpton and Jackson that are turning this into a race issue and forgetting that Bell has a rap sheet longer than your leg.
From what I saw, the stadium was packed and the whites and the blacks were intermingled in the stadium watching and enjoying the HCing. NOT what you would expect if there was racial tensions.
Oh, there was hightened security though. Four BIG State Troopers down on the side lines watching the game.
I'd say to watch for something actually during the trial, or after a verdict is passed. That's the way it was during the King riots.
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If there is trouble, its gonna be from people that don't even live there. [Jackson, Sharpton, etc.]
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Originally posted by Kaw1000
Sharpton and Jackson keep racisim alive so the have a job,big money,private jets...........the nooses on the trees should have their name on it and their neck in the noose:furious
Whether you like them or not Sharpton and Jackson stand up for what they think is right. They have a tramendous impact on the media. Why would you mention hanging someone who exercises their right to free speech/protest. If you don't like them, that's fine, but wanting them to be hanged?
We are only 40 years removed from the civil rights movement. To think that racism is doesn't exist is ridiculous. Hopefully, justice will prevail and these kids get a fair trial.
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Originally posted by TalonX
These protests, in my opinion, set back the black race in this country. They don't advance their cause.
What should their cause be? To make the 'white' majority of the population agree with them?
The actions of a few do not represent the majority. The black race is set back by the jena 6?...yea right. So did Timothy McVea set back the white race?
I will never understand how some of the people on this thread come to their conclusions on social issues.
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
What should their cause be? To make the 'white' majority of the population agree with them?
The actions of a few do not represent the majority. The black race is set back by the jena 6?...yea right. So did Timothy McVea set back the white race?
I will never understand how some of the people on this thread come to their conclusions on social issues.
Tawanda maybe?
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
Whether you like them or not Sharpton and Jackson stand up for what they think is right.
By promoting racism?
When Jackson was in Jena the first time about this, he was saying it was just a school yard fight and should be treated as such. What would he have said if it was 6 white boys beating a black boy?
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jesse jackson is interested in money and getting face time in front of a camera to feed his ego. I have even less respect for sharpton.
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The good thing is that they cut down the tree that caused this whole mess in the first place. I mean if it wasnt there providing all that shade with all of its branches and leaves and stuff then we never would have gotten to this point at all.
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
Whether you like them or not Sharpton and Jackson stand up for what they think is right. They have a tramendous impact on the media. Why would you mention hanging someone who exercises their right to free speech/protest. If you don't like them, that's fine, but wanting them to be hanged?
We are only 40 years removed from the civil rights movement. To think that racism is doesn't exist is ridiculous. Hopefully, justice will prevail and these kids get a fair trial.
To think that the black race hasn't brought this "Racism" on themselves is just foolish.
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Yea, hanging a noose on a tree is the exact same thing as getting 5 of your friends together to beat someone up.
If I recall correctly, the kids who hung the nooses got punished by the school, and all but one of the kids who assaulted someone are not being punished. And there are thousands of people saying that none of the 6 who actually comitted an assault should be punished, for no reason other than because they're black.
So being a racist jerk is worse than assaulting someone out of racial hatred? Maybe it's time to start beating up on people of other races, since apparently thousands of blacks are saying "hey that's cool with us".
Or maybe not.
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Originally posted by Tango
I was there last week for thier Homecoming game
Did you happen to catch the festival that Saturday? I was playing at it.
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No, I was there taking pictures of the HC court and game.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
He was complaining that Barak Obama was "acting too white" in Obama not making stronger statements regarding the Jena 6.
The irony of that comment is that Obama was advised to hold that position be Jesse Jackson Jr. So, in affect, Jackson called his own son too white....
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I still haven't seen anything that shows the beating was race-driven, instead of a simple violent response to an insult.
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Originally posted by Engine
I still haven't seen anything that shows the beating was race-driven, instead of a simple violent response to an insult.
Doesn't matter.....charges and punishment should be the same.