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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: PanzerIV on September 23, 2007, 12:53:39 PM
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Been rumors that this might be true.
I am unsure if this is true, but I cannot find any new episodes scheduled.
Also, i saw a commercial for a future Weapons featuring weapons of Halo, but could not find it scheduled.
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NOOOO :cry
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And just as I found out about it too :cry
I still have Mythbusters though :D
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Today on Mythbusters, we will immerse ourselves into the game "Aces High"
There is a widely popular myth that states if you purposely ram someone who is faster then you, you will take no damage.
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:rofl
or the "You can turn a Lancaster into a dive bomber" myth
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thats a shame.
but at least no more poeple citing the histroy channel as a source:lol
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Originally posted by Latrobe
:rofl
or the "You can turn a Lancaster into a dive bomber" myth
aka the LanStuka.
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aren't dogfights illegal, except in the south of course. :O
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Originally posted by Latrobe
:rofl
or the "You can turn a Lancaster into a dive bomber" myth
Myth Confirmed.
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No big loss. Most of the series was inaccuracy ridden crap, and Ami ego trips.
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Just did a quick bit of looking around. I found nothing about it being cancelled, but there are 7 new Season 2 episodes yet to air...
10. P-51 Mustang
11. The Bloodiest Day
12. Dogfights of Desert Storm
13. Battle for the Falklands
14. Supersonic
15. Death of the Luftwaffe
16. Tuskegee Airmen
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I hope they finish season 2 theres some good episodes scheduled, Battle of the Falklands should be great.
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Originally posted by Viking
No big loss. Most of the series was inaccuracy ridden crap, and Ami ego trips.
Well send in your great Norwegian fighter moments, maybe you can
save the series! :D
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Yeah I heard this Vick guy got in trouble for that
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Originally posted by Rino
Well send in your great Norwegian fighter moments, maybe you can
save the series! :D
So how many Nam shows from the NV side?
LOL they do a Rickenbacker show where he takes on 7 Germans :eek: and gets MoH but is one done on the VC winner Billy Barker?
He took off in his Snipe, #E8102, started for England, but ended up in one of the most celebrated dogfights of WWI, actually five separate air battles. Over Bois de Marmal, he first encountered a Rumpler 'C' two-seat recon plane. Its skillful pilot and observer/gunner kept him at bay, and the gunner hit Barker's Snipe. Eventually Barker circled away and, relying on his accurate gunnery, fired from 200 yards, killing the gunner. He quickly scored more hits on the now-vulnerable Rumpler, breaking it up in the air.
But in his focus on his victim, he missed a Fokker that got behind him. The Fokker's gunfire smashed into his right leg. Although badly injured, Barker was able to get into a circling contest, which only ended when his bullets struck the Fokker's gas tank, setting the plane afire.
At this moment, Barker's third battle began, as he found himself in the midst of a flight of Fokker and Albatros biplanes patrolling at high altitude. Spandau guns opened up from every direction and another bullet smashed into his other leg. Somehow, he managed to shoot down two of these opponents before he fainted and went into a diving spin. The rush of air revived him and he came to, still in the midst of German fighters. As they all fired at him, he selected one opponent and flew right at him, guns firing. As they closed, he blew it apart and then realized that his left elbow had been hit too.
Virtually crippled, with three limbs shattered, he passed out again. For a second time, he revived amidst enemy aircraft, now quite low. Incredibly, he dispatched another DVII. As he struggled to reach the safety of the British lines, a German bullet struck his gas tank. Luckily, it didn't catch fire and Billy switched over to reserve. Seonds later, the Snipe crash-landed, skidding sideways and then flipping over. The men of a Scottish infantry regiment, who had witnessed his epic aerial battle, pulled him from the wreckage.
He had downed four enemy planes, taken several bullets, and survived to be awarded the Victoria Cross. He lay unconscious in the hospital in Rouen for two weeks. He received telegrams from King George V, the Prince of Wales, fellow ace Billy Bishop, and many others. Only his amazing constitution pulled him through; even so, he was partially crippled for the rest of his life.
Should it be mentioned that Barker had over twice the number of kills than Eddie?
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Personally i'd be more impressed with the show if they did more to cover the great fighters of all sides and not primarily the allied victories
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From what I've seen it's pretty straight up tactical dogfighting. I'm sorry the Americans have a higher percentage of overall victories. ;)
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
So how many Nam shows from the NV side?
Remains are hard to interview. :D
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who wants to hear from a Cannon Spamming HO Pajama Wearing commie in a MiG?
that would be just as boring as the current crop. There are many interesting tactical fights that happened to planes other then ones with Ami markings
Dogfights of the Irag War. that sounds interesting. AWACS picked him up on takeoff and I spammed amraams in awacs mode til his dead :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Pooh21
who wants to hear from a Cannon Spamming HO Pajama Wearing commie in a MiG?
I have noticed the MiG drivers tend to spray and pray.
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See Rule #5
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
So how many Nam shows from the NV side?
Originally posted by Viking
Sure. I wouldn't mind seeing a documentary on the history of the Norwegian 331 and 332 squadrons.
The History Channel owned by A&E Television Network, corporate offices Manhattan, NY, USA. I'm just guessing but they are probably programing for US viewers.
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As much as I enjoyed them interviewing the pilots involved, good riddance.
I hate shows that come back from the commercial break and "re-cap" the previous segment for 10 minutes, then add 2 more minutes to the program, then another commerical. Then the re-cap. So you effectively have a 4 minute story stretched to 30 minutes or more. All the shows with that "hunter" dude are the same way.
If they think they are adding dramatic effect, it aint working.
Good stories, just a bad means of telling them.
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Originally posted by NitroFish
I'm just guessing but they are probably programing for US viewers.
My point exactly.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
So how many Nam shows from the NV side?
LOL they do a Rickenbacker show where he takes on 7 Germans :eek: and gets MoH but is one done on the VC winner Billy Barker?
Did you see the episode on WW1 aired this season? They did a whole segment on Werner Voss. I think you should actually watch the show.
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Originally posted by NitroFish
The History Channel owned by A&E Television Network, corporate offices Manhattan, NY, USA. I'm just guessing but they are probably programing for US viewers.
As it should be.
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Originally posted by rpm
From what I've seen it's pretty straight up tactical dogfighting. I'm sorry the Americans have a higher percentage of overall victories. ;)
Hmmm..where did you get that information? Americans having the higher percentage of overall victories?
Top US ace ww2.... Ira Bong, 40 victories
Top Luftwaffe ace...Erich Hartman 353 victories
(and at least 15 more with over 100 confirmed kills each)
Statistics dictate your logic is flawed, though your heart may be in the right place. The allied airforces had numerical advantage, at least from late 1943 on, not statistical kill advantage.
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Didnt the Americans have the most aces?
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Originally posted by rpm
From what I've seen it's pretty straight up tactical dogfighting. I'm sorry the Americans have a higher percentage of overall victories. ;)
Don't apologize for greatness. Don't apologize for saving Europe.
All that said, what got me into WWII aircraft was reading, in 1979, the book "Fly for Your Life".
It's the bio of Douglas Bader..... Brit pilot.
Many great fighters exist on all sides.... I trust that the Brits are producing shows about the Brits, the Germans about the Germans, and the Japanese about the Japanese. No one HAS to show everyone.....good god.
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Originally posted by Viking
My point exactly.
Hey, maybe you and your country should start your own network and produce your own show. Take your best shot.
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Hey, maybe you and your country should start your own network and produce your own show. Take your best shot.
Holy xenophobic kneejerk, batman!
It was a decent series for the history channel, if a bit cheesy.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Holy xenophobic kneejerk, batman!
It was a decent series for the history channel, if a bit cheesy.
I didn't comment on the series. It wasn't a knee jerk, either. He said he didn't like it, so I told him to make his own show, his way. It's always easy for some chump to whine about how someone else does a job, especially when he isn't doing the job or paying the bill.
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He said he didn't like it, so I told him to make his own show, his way.
So you never criticize or complain? If everything is uniformally great, how do you decide what is worth watching? Sounds like socialism to me.
"Waiter, this steak is like leather and there is a pubic hair in my beer, but I can't possibly imagine how hard your job is so I mustn't criticize. Please carry on with your substandard service!"
Embrace change. Challenge the status quo.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Holy xenophobic kneejerk, batman!
It was a decent series for the history channel, if a bit cheesy.
Cheesy? Can you allow that might be a biased perspective from a non-US observer?
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They have had a limited number of shows. There is no way they could get a large population of stories or cover every pilot.
Milo, perhaps sending the story about the pilot you mentioned might get him in the series. I imagine they are going to cover the stories they have the largest amount of data and in some cases access to the actual pilot. Getting someone nominated and having the info might just get them into the show.
As for the criticism about inaccuracy I'll take the word of the actual pilot who was there over some dweeb playing a computer game any day, no matter what nationality they are. There are still a few of them left from WW2 as well as Korea and later conflicts. No show gets everything exactly right but they seem to be trying to be accurate and fair.
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Originally posted by Dowding
So you never criticize or complain? If everything is uniformally great, how do you decide what is worth watching? Sounds like socialism to me.
"Waiter, this steak is like leather and there is a pubic hair in my beer, but I can't possibly imagine how hard your job is so I mustn't criticize. Please carry on with your substandard service!"
Embrace change. Challenge the status quo.
:rolleyes:
Your inaccurate assumptions never change.
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Originally posted by MORAY37
Hmmm..where did you get that information? Americans having the higher percentage of overall victories?
Top US ace ww2.... Ira Bong, 40 victories
Top Luftwaffe ace...Erich Hartman 353 victories
(and at least 15 more with over 100 confirmed kills each)
Statistics dictate your logic is flawed, though your heart may be in the right place. The allied airforces had numerical advantage, at least from late 1943 on, not statistical kill advantage.
Count the downed aircraft, not individual pilot stats.
US wins hands down.:aok
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Military Aircraft Losses (1939-1945)
US 52296
Germany 95000
Japan 49485
Britain 33090
Australia 7160
Italy 4000
France 2100
Canada 2389
New Zealand 684
India 527
Sweden 272
Denmark 154
(Soviet losses, while not listed by the Soviet government were extremely high)
from http://www.100thbg.com/mainpages/history/history4/ww2stats.htm
before I found soviet data on aircraft losses something on tv interested me more. So given the Soviet and Allied tendency in general of just piling men and machines on the Axis we will just say that they lost in scientific terms a bajillion planes.
we will divide the combined total of 89k Allied planes in half for the Germans and another for the Japanese so 44.5kish for each front plus a bajillion Russkys planes on the eastern.
I think that they choose their shows for a US audience but dont show some off the better kills. I am sure US props have shot down commie jets quite a few times do they show ones that the Pilot used tactics? no they show 2 skyraiders hispano HOing
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Too bad that was the 1st Prop v Jet kill of the war. Kinda historicly significant.
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Cheesy? Can you allow that might be a biased perspective from a non-US observer?
Biased in what way? I probably see more variety in TV programming than many in the US have the chance to experience simply by geographical location. I see US shows, British commercial TV, BBC output etc etc... I'd say it was a pretty objective position. History channel shows do seem to be a bit overly dramatic, when perhaps the gravity of the events themselves provide enough of a dramatic backdrop.
Each to their own.
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Originally posted by rpm
Count the downed aircraft, not individual pilot stats.
US wins hands down.:aok
Some 70,000 a/c were claimed by the LW in air combat during WW2 with some 25,000 against Brit and Yank a/c.
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i find the series to be outstanding... some of the feats these pilots pulled off are just incredible.
altho... they seem to be rather liberal on how easy it is to lose and gain vertical separation.
my plane in ah never climbed like that.