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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MjTalon on September 24, 2007, 02:58:21 PM
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Well i'm a huge stuka junkie, and i was just gonna ask does anyone other than me see the stuka getting some major love in the future? As far as more skin selection's to more variants of the stuka?
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I would like to see the eventual addition of the B version and the G-2 version (modelled on the superior D-5 version as opposed to the less than steller D-3 version the G-1 is based on).
I would also like to see the angle markers on the left side of the canopy glass that the pilots used to use to gauge the angle of their dives.
Oh...and this thread needs to be moved to the Aircraft forums.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I would like to see the eventual addition of the B version and the G-2 version (modelled on the superior D-5 version as opposed to the less than steller D-3 version the G-1 is based on).
I would also like to see the angle markers on the left side of the canopy glass that the pilots used to use to gauge the angle of their dives.
Oh...and this thread needs to be moved to the Aircraft forums.
ack-ack
yeah, i kinda figured i posted in the wrong section, can a mod please remove this? And i wondered why i didn't see the angle markers on the canopy glass.
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I'm curious- what are the key differences in the models? I know I'd like to have the model with the cannons, but I don't know much of anything about the 87s.
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No cannonz for joo!
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Shut yo mouf grits. Anything which results in more stukas flying around is good. They're one of few planes a Hurri seems able to catch.
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TALON I challenge you to a STUKA BATTLE! :lol
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here's a good source for your information on the different stuka variants. It's a very good read and i recommend it to any stuka lover's or anyone in particular that wants to know more about the different type of stuka's that were deployed:
http://www.vectorsite.net/avstuka.html
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The B model is an earlier variant, saw action during the Phony War, Battle of France and Battle of Britain. it is also the one that most think of when they talk about the Stuka.
The G-1 is the one with the 37mm Flak 18 cannon that is built around the D-3 variant air frame.
The D-3 is considered to be the crappiest of the lot due to the increased weight (due to added armor) the wing loading became unacceptable and was replaced by the D-5 version.
The G-2 is the same as the G-1 with the sole exception that is was based on the D-5 rather than the D-3.
The D-5 had the extended pointy wingtips that improved handling over the D-3 model, and had the wing mounted machine guns replaced with 20mm cannons. The dive flaps were also removed on this model.
ack-ack
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Quick way to sum it up Ack-ack :aok I hope they decide to put the D-5 into production then again the G-1 would be find, Just add a gv killer stuka variant, hurricane has one O_o Why not show the Luftwaffe some love as well?
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New stuka would be great. A very dangerous plane, that I wish was more utilized in this game. Its a plane that takes a lot of patience and luck (luck referring to not getting jumped before target is reached). Most times I fly stukas when we decide to do a '"fun" squad mission.
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ok.. I want a B with sirens,
G2 and G5... and yes you can perk them :p
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yesh... wait wa? Perk EM? NOOO :confused:
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Gotta love a good stuka mission........unless it gets bounced on the way there......lol.......they turn like a very heavy truck when loaded with the 1800..........good fun to drop into a cv group, dump the love then try to get out alive...(I very rarely make it out alive..lol.......)......
Wurzel
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oh it's easy to get out alive, egress on the deck and make anyone chasing you auger :aok
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The D-5 had the... ...The dive flaps were also removed on this model.
Not all D-5s were without dive brakes. When they were used to the task Ju-87 was originally meant for they had them. Dive brakes were removed from the planes that were used for night harassment bombings and as night fighters against the soviet night harassers.
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Originally posted by Wmaker
Not all D-5s were without dive brakes. When they were used to the task Ju-87 was originally meant for they had them. Dive brakes were removed from the planes that were used for night harassment bombings and as night fighters against the soviet night harassers.
No, the removal of the dive flaps was not limited to those Stukas that engaged in night harassment missions or as "night fighters" (first time i've heard a Ju87 being used as one). They were removed on the D-5 as the variant was intended only for ground-attack and the dive flaps were no longer needed. Later models like the G were too heavy to use the dive flaps so they were kept off of those models as well.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
No, the removal of the dive flaps was not limited to those Stukas that engaged in night harassment missions or as "night fighters" (first time i've heard a Ju87 being used as one). They were removed on the D-5 as the variant was intended only for ground-attack and the dive flaps were no longer needed.
(http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nemecke/ju-87/ju-87d-13.jpg)
(http://www.lietadla.com/lietadla/nemecke/ju-87/ju-87d5-09.jpg)
Here are couple of photos where the dive brakes are clearly visible.
What do you mean by "only for ground-attack"? :confused: Hmm...isn't dive bombing a ground target...essentially...err... a ground attack? :)
Anyways, for example I/SG3 dive bombed with dive brake equipped Ju-87D-5s during the summer of '44 against Red Army's armor and troop concentrations in the Karelian isthmus.
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One more...
(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww2/ju87d/ju87d-6.jpg)
Here's Gefechtsverband Kuhlmey's (in which I./SG3 belonged) D-5 Stuka taxing in the Immola airbase before a sortie against Soviet offensive in Tali 28.6.1944. Again, dive brakes clearly visible.