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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Russian on September 25, 2007, 11:59:20 AM
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Flame bait.
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<--- walks away VERY quickly... hehe
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*Dons his asbestos undies*
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That sticker should be Serenity's avatar.
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Originally posted by Russian
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The Liberal Tolerance Bible.
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IN my opINion it's INcredible to contINue with this post.
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"In an attempt to boost declining sales, publishers are adopting a tactic which has proven quite successful for the RIAA"
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"Russian had nothing better to do today so he decided to throw rocks at the bee hive..."
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That sticker could not have been put in a better place :aok
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The thread title should be "Christians need to lighten up and get a sense of humor" lol. ;)
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"Truth"
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Originally posted by Viking
"Truth"
"False."
See, I can do it too.
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label is true, but book is 1/2 the truths cause 1/2 has been cut out and or editied ...................
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Originally posted by Nilsen
That sticker could not have been put in a better place :aok
Yep.
Looks fairly accurate to me.
They should have something similar sticked to every book of faith...
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Oh.. and just so that i dont discriminate anyone or step on to few toes ill add that it would fit just as well on the koran :lol
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Can I play too?
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They let this stuff "INTOO"<--- this forum LOL:rofl :aok :noid
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I've seen fewer true Christians commit crimes than I have atheists, agnostics, muslims, or any other religion. That is to say, I have never in my life seen a true Christian commit a crime, but I have seen tens of the other do so. Even against their own religion in many cases. That sticker is on the wrong book.
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As we get closer to a nanny state in the US, we see more inaccurate warnings than there are things to warn about.
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:rofl
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...ROFL...:rofl
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Originally posted by McFarland
I've seen fewer true Christians commit crimes than I have atheists, agnostics, muslims, or any other religion. That is to say, I have never in my life seen a true Christian commit a crime, but I have seen tens of the other do so. Even against their own religion in many cases. That sticker is on the wrong book.
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As we get closer to a nanny state in the US, we see more inaccurate warnings than there are things to warn about.
So when you see a crime in progress, your only concern is your spreadsheet denoting religious persuasion? :confused:
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I was gonna say it (McFarland's post) is religious persecution, but what do I know, I haven't had any problems with any persons no matter their beliefs.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Can I play too?
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probably, but I would suggest leaving it in "floater" mode for a few days to soften up:D
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My invisible god can beat up your invisible god.
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Or, are you afraid of saying you are?
It's obviously flame bait...clearly designed to antagonize Christians.
If you truly believe the sticker, you don't need to post it. To flame another's beliefs is lame. At least, however, put all your beliefs out there, so we can evaluate them, as well.
I am a Christian. I believe in the concepts in the Bible. I do not take each story literally, but I can appreciate another not believing in it at all.
In any event, be not like Kipling's Tomlinson, fit neither for heaven nor hell. Take a stand.
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I don't see any Christians here expressing outrage.
You wanna see outrage? Stick it on a Quran or ridicule the Church of Global Warming.
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I'd say those who believe the sticker more than the book, realize the sticker could be put on any religious tome or spiritual guide, and have the same meaning, and same effect. In some other context, it might be funny, but I'd agree that it was posted here simply to rile people up.
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THE WORLD TODAY :-(
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it's funny, 99.99999% of the individuals who find this funny and "true", have probably never read the Bible.
NOT
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Originally posted by McFarland
I've seen fewer true Christians commit crimes than I have atheists, agnostics, muslims, or any other religion. That is to say, I have never in my life seen a true Christian commit a crime, but I have seen tens of the other do so. Even against their own religion in many cases. That sticker is on the wrong book.
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As we get closer to a nanny state in the US, we see more inaccurate warnings than there are things to warn about.
I suppose all those pedophile priests we keep hearing about are in Church just for the poon-tang?
Or how about those fun guys torching women or splitting skulls during the inquisition? Didn't believe in god, either, I suppose?
Or those Mensa members from Kansas who turn soldiers' funerals into hate rallies? Are they really Jews, then? Or perhaps Hindus?
That sticker belongs on any religious manifesto. Your religion is just as rotten, myopic and dangerous as any other, so get over yourself and embrace something the bible should have taught you--humility.
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I think 99.999999% of those who believe it must not have read it either.
Funny? No.
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Originally posted by an Idiot
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Originally posted by Neubob
I suppose all those pedophile priests we keep hearing about are in Church just for the poon-tang?
Or how about those fun guys torching women or splitting skulls during the inquisition? Didn't believe in god, either, I suppose?
Or those Mensa members from Kansas who turn soldiers' funerals into hate rallies? Are they really Jews, then? Or perhaps Hindus?
That sticker belongs on any religious manifesto. Your religion is just as rotten, myopic and dangerous as any other, so get over yourself and embrace something the bible should have taught you--humility.
Neubob, you totally missed the words he used that answered all those examples you wrote. "True Christians" A true Christian is a follower of Christ. You won't find them doing the things you stated above. Beleive me when I say that the people that do and have done what you stated are not true Christians. They do not beleive in Christ and his teachings. They are people with thier own agenda that use the name of whatever religion they wish to further it.
Mark
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Neubob, you totally missed the words he used that answered all those examples you wrote. "True Christians" A true Christian is a follower of Christ. You won't find them doing the things you stated above. Beleive me when I say that the people that do and have done what you stated are not true Christians. They do not beleive in Christ and his teachings. They are people with thier own agenda that use the name of whatever religion they wish to further it.
Mark
No, Mark, I didn't miss anything. I understood what he meant perfectly. I just didn't feel like dignifying his idiocy with anything better than an outburst. Since it is you who speaks now, however, I will attempt civility....
Take the world's entire population.... Now take away all the petty sinners, all the people that use religion for their vanity more than anything else, all the people that are intolerant of others, unforgiving, narrow-minded, greedy, judgmental, unwise and unsympathetic... You've got like 3 people remaining. And I'll be willing to bet you that those three people are just as likely to be Buddhists, Jews or, gasp, agnostics.
His proclaimation that Christians are somehow better was faulted in at least two ways.
First of all, by making that statement in the first place, and implying that he ranks himself among this population of 'true Christians', he exhibited the worst kind of spiritual vanity--both personal and on behalf of all Christians.... Bad Christian.
Second, by making statements that implicate others before himself, he was judgmental, narrow-minded and overbroad.... Bad Christian.
But my original point remains valid. All those vile characters I mentioned earlier, the pedophile priests, the guys with the thumb screws, the idiots with the picket signs at the funeral... All (or at least most) of these pieces of human waste also believed that they were 'true Christians'. They'd deluded themselves into thinking they were better--much like the poster who started this conversation.
Calling it a personal agenda is a cop-out, partly because there is no bright line between a personal agenda and doing the lord's work. Just answer the question of why you do good deeds-because you want to get to heaven or because you want to please god, or do you do them because you just want to be good? And if you just want to be good, why do you need the bible and the church to guide you? Isn't being good already good enough? So then why do you need Christianity at all? Because being good is not good enough? Or do you just need an instruction manual on what is good and what isn't? But don't you, an intelligent man, already know what good is? So why do you need Christianity? Are Christians all too dumb to understand what is good and what isn't good, intuitively? Of course not, so why do you need Christ? Why not just be good for the sake of being good? It's more efficient that way, isn't it? And god gave you free will and wants you to use it, right? So are you following Christ because maybe you need to please god too? Why? Because you want to get to heaven? Isn't that sort of selfish, when it comes down to it? A personal agenda, if you will...And those aren't the hallmarks of a true Christian.
It's not easy to answer, and I truly believe that most of those nitwits believed that they were doing god's work. They get lost in the tangle of belief and wind up doing stuff that isn's so great, but seems righteous. Most were just not smart enough to see some of the paradoxes.
Such thinking, once it's really sunk in, allows for basically weak and stupid people to do some pretty cruel things to those they see as different. And therefore anybody who beats their chest and uses phrases like 'true Christian', or, for that matter 'true muslim' or 'true atheist', is really nothing but a 'true idiot'.
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I dunno, the warning label looks about right to me.
*shrug*
RTR
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I appreciate the civil responce Neubob but I have personally seen and lived around many more than just three who I would call true Christians. They, by the way, were sinners just like the rest of us. We are all sinners, there isn't any getting away from that, we were all born sinners. They showed me a totally selfless life of service to others and to Christ that I would only hope to be able to approximate some day.
Christ gave me eternal life. Not here on this earth but in a world beyond this one. I call that place heaven. Though I am a sinner he has forgiven those sins of mine and because of that I shall be able to live that life of eternity.
The original post was, in my opinion, in poor taste regardless of the religion or book that would be represented.
Mark
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Mark, I was going to jump on here and post something rude in response to Neubobs arrogance....
Thanks for showing me I don't have to. Sometimes its necessary to remind yourself that being secure in what you are means never having to push yourselves on others...lead by example, not by force...in all things.
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The original post was an attempt at prodding people into a response. It worked.
What McFarland posted was the worst kind of pro-Christian tripe. That sort of thinking belongs in the 16th century.
If he thinks that he, or his people, are better than the rest of us, then he by default proves that he is not only worse, by virtue of his prejudicial inclination, but ignorant to boot.
Christianity does not have the best track record of religions. And I am sorry if this offends, but the price we pay to the sanctimonious masses to get a few 'true Christians' has been and remains much too high. And this goes for all religions.
Personally, I don't care if you worship Christ, Allah, or a tree in your yard. It's your business. But when some guy with an IQ comparable to his shoe size starts tossing around quasi-statistical rubbish to show that he's better, expect a response.
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What does it matter to you what he thinks of himself? How does that affect you?
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Originally posted by Shaky
What does it matter to you what he thinks of himself? How does that affect you?
What does it matter what I think? How does it affect you? You're secure, remember?
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Originally posted by Neubob
What does it matter what I think? How does it affect you? You're secure, remember?
I didn't say "I" was, just that being secure in your own skin means not having to thump your chest, as it appears you (among others) are doing by proclaiming you are too smart to be fooled by Christians...any Christians.
I dunno...perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I've always found self described atheists as the loudest, most shrill, and intolerant persons around.
edit: Going to bed now...not to ignore you, but because I have to work manana :) I'll check back when I get home.
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Originally posted by Shaky
I didn't say "I" was, just that being secure in your own skin means not having to thump your chest, as it appears you (among others) are doing by proclaiming you are too smart to be fooled by Christians...any Christians.
I dunno...perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I've always found self described atheists as the loudest, most shrill, and intolerant persons around.
First of all, I never said I was, nor am I an atheist.
Second, it's not about being fooled by anybody. You have your beliefs, I have mine. I do not accept yours, nor do I expect you to accept mine. I can and still will be friends with you. If not you personally then other members of your faith. I do not care what you worship so long as you don't start building hierarchies of devotion by which you appraise me.
My entire quarrel was with the phrasing of the aforementioned post. And the reason that it bothers me is that it is the fetus, if you will, of a kind of thinking that when taken en masse can cause trouble. These Islamists that we often rage about--where do you think they get the balls to say that they know better than anybody what god is and what he wants? They know, just as McFarland knows, that their people are righteous. Plain and simple. Who's right and who's wrong is immaterial, so long as the opinion is there and the will to impose it is strong. No, I do not think he's evil. I just think that if you get enough guys like him thumping the bible, somebody else just take the next step and start doing odd things in the name of god.
In my mind, this sort of short-sighted arrogance, be it a Christian's or a Muslim's, is exactly what creates fanaticism. And yes, this bothers me because I don't want to live under religious tyranny of any kind, Muslim or Christian, domestic or foriegn.
Edit: Goodnight Shaky.
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mother teresa's book now on ebay.
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I could not have put it better myself, but then again, I didn't even try. Those types of derisive knee-jerk responses come too quickly in discussions like this. Ah well.
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How about "Just another illustration of the many reasons Seagoon gave up posting here after having no perceptible positive effect for four plus years"
Hey look, it may even be my shortest post ever! :eek:
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Was your goal to 'save' us?
Sounds a little arrogant if so.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
How about "Just another illustration of the many reasons Seagoon gave up posting here after having no perceptible positive effect for four plus years"
Hey look, it may even be my shortest post ever! :eek:
Dont get upset...
You and your religion still have plenty of supporters here. Its just that unlike were i would guess you normally "preach" this is a more diverse community that does not automaticly accept what you say. I dont doubt that its easyer to get heard among your own. I have never in my life been in a community that has so many christian people so for the oclub is almost like going to church :D
Unlike at your church we dont come here because we share your chrisitan views so we may be a tough crowd, but that does not mean that we dont like you as a person. I think you have said many good things in the oclub. :)
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Originally posted by rpm
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LOL!
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This is pure flamebait, thread should have been locked already.
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"I don't see any Christians here expressing outrage.
You wanna see outrage? Stick it on a Quran or ridicule the Church of Global Warming."
well said.... the liberals are great entertainers... mean spirited but... funny as hell most of the time. the problem is that they think that they have the exclusive rights to a sense of humor. If you make fun of some pet thing of theirs they come unglued and suddenly lose all of their touted sense of humor.
It works the same for belief... if it is their belief... it is to be treated with respect... more than that.. it is to be treated with civility and compassion but most of all... you had better agree.
If not.. they start to lose composure... name calling and anger... mouth foaming and shrillness....
Look at the global warming thread... you can watch the series of events as I have described em...
Often.. their beliefs get tangled up... as things based on "feelings" are wont to do. Take for instance their hate of religion and god.... their staunch effort to keep religion out of government... until of course it is hindu and some fight for "freedom". until it is the dali lama or whatever... that is different.
lazs
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Originally posted by AKIron
I don't see any Christians here expressing outrage...
That kind of stupidity (the sticker) is hardy worth the bits spent expressing my displeasure. First amendment applies to belligerent idiots as well.