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Title: The Taurus Judge
Post by: VWE on September 26, 2007, 06:07:43 AM
Has anyone shot this gun or own it? Any thoughts?

http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-theJudge-video.cfm
Title: The Taurus Judge
Post by: culero on September 26, 2007, 06:53:44 AM
Me like. Very much. Me want.
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Post by: lazs2 on September 26, 2007, 08:06:15 AM
mcfarland will have a cow.

the claimed use for the gun is dual purpose with one being to kill snakes.

I can't really see any use for the gun if you already own a few handguns.  It doesn't really appeal to me at all but I can see that it would work for some.

lazs
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Post by: Airscrew on September 26, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
It looks like its fun to shoot and would probably be good for snakes and such.. I live in the country and often have stray dogs show up whose dispostion are unknown and so far they just run off when I go outside... but one day there may be one that doesnt run off..I would consider getting one of these but at it's effective range almost any handgun would be just as good or better.. even in the "confines" of a vehicle.   The only advantage I can see is with using the 410 you dont have to really worry about ricochets or bullets going through your intended target and hitting an innocent...even though I live in the country I do have neighbors about 200 feet on both sides of me and houses across the street

also  it would make a good zombie weapon...
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Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2007, 09:50:35 AM
It's a nice concept but I doubt it has that much use. In the shotgun mode it will be practically a contact weapon for 2 reasons. The spread of the shot column and the small size of the shot in a 410 shotgun shell. If you go to a 410 buckshot type of thing you might as well be shooting the regular handgun ammo anyhow. Penetration will also be an issue with the shotgun shell.

I wouldn't bother with it if you are already carrying or using a handgun.

In the car jacking situation they talk about in the clip, it's poor tactics to try and out draw some one who already has their gun out and pointing at you while yours is holstered, as long as you have any choice what so ever. If you think they are going to kill you anyhow then all bets are off and you do what you can.
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Post by: Airscrew on September 26, 2007, 09:57:50 AM
didnt someone do this already anyway?  Didnt Colt or Smith&Wesson make a 410 derringer, and i mean recently like the last 30 years or so.. not that old west stuff...I recall something like two barrels, a .22 maybe and .410...
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Post by: Sabre on September 26, 2007, 11:14:37 AM
Haven't fired the Judge, but I've handled it at the store.  Very nice feel, and incredibly smooth trigger pull.  I like the 410 option, since I live in an urban area and am worried about a high-powered round going through a wall and hitting an unintended target.  It also makes for an excellant weapon to take hiking or camping.  Keep 410s in two chambers and 45's in the other three.  That way you can take care of any variety of pest that decides to bother you, whether it slithers or walks.:aok
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Post by: BBBB on September 26, 2007, 11:57:11 AM
I have not fired this gun yet. I do own a Thunder Five. It is a five shot 410/45 Colt revolver. The rights to the gun have been sold a few times. They have been around since 1990. So this idea is not a new one. Taurus is just really good at making copies.
http://www.thunder5.com/
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Post by: VWE on September 26, 2007, 12:09:58 PM
Airscrew, I have seen a .22/410 over under rifle before... like a snake charmer.
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Post by: Airscrew on September 26, 2007, 12:39:40 PM
right, I remember those,  I even recall a .357/.38 and .410 over and under rifle/shotgun.  When I go to lunch I'll dig a little bit.
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Post by: indy007 on September 26, 2007, 02:34:45 PM
I  dig it... but... how is it legal with the laws regarding sawed off shotguns? I could see a judge & jury being easily convinced that it is one.
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Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2007, 03:01:10 PM
It skirts the issue of being a shot gun as it has a rifled barrel and not a smooth bore. The 410 just happens to be the same diameter as the pistol cartridge.
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Post by: indy007 on September 26, 2007, 03:16:10 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
It skirts the issue of being a shot gun as it has a rifled barrel and not a smooth bore. The 410 just happens to be the same diameter as the pistol cartridge.


:O

TO THE GUNSTORE!
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Post by: Mr No Name on September 26, 2007, 03:22:46 PM
I have not seen a personal carry gun that has impressed me like this until now.  I am saving up my $$$ now.
Title: Shoot to kill...
Post by: TalonX on September 26, 2007, 06:21:47 PM
I am not remotely interested in such a weapon for self defense.  Give me my Glocks or HK USP's.

At any range beyond close, you run the risk of wounding without killing.  Although most shootouts are VERY close range, I still would prefer the greater range afforded by a regular round.

Finally, I don't really want to deal with the lawsuit of the wounded criminal.   If I am ever faced with shooting, God forbid, I don't want to wound the criminal.
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Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2007, 06:26:01 PM
Talon,

You also don't want anything like the statement in your post to show up in court either. A lawyer will use it to show that you intended from the start to kill someone and that it was not a case of self defense since you were looking for a fight to begin with for the oportunity.
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Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
Hmmm, in Texas a shotgun can't hold more than 3 shells. Wonder if it would be illegal to chamber 5 shells or even have the ability to do so.
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Post by: Mark Luper on September 26, 2007, 09:13:44 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Hmmm, in Texas a shotgun can't hold more than 3 shells. Wonder if it would be illegal to chamber 5 shells or even have the ability to do so.


I thought that was only when hunting. I didn't think it applied to personal weapons used in home defence. As far as the ability to, most pumps and semiauto shotguns use a removable plug.

Mark
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Post by: Maverick on September 26, 2007, 09:16:55 PM
The 3 shell limit is for hunting.
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Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2007, 09:17:29 PM
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
I thought that was only when hunting. I didn't think it applied to personal weapons used in home defence. As far as the ability to, most pumps and semiauto shotguns use a removable plug.

Mark


I don't know. Reread the thread and saw the mention of barrel length which is more of an issue I think. Guess if they are still selling them in a year or two it's probably not illegal to use one.
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Post by: M36 on September 26, 2007, 09:18:15 PM
Here's one.

The Judge (http://www.gunsamerica.com/Classifieds/View/_976946297.aspx)
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Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2007, 09:23:41 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
The 3 shell limit is for hunting.


Even old dogs can learn new things. My Dad told me not to remove the plug when I was a kid and I always assumed it was an absolute law.