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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K3 on September 27, 2007, 04:18:44 AM
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Despite some bad news, GM still got something under their sleeeeeves:D
2008 Cadillac CTS
Everyone should take notice, this is HIGH QUALITY stuff that GM is rolling off. Possibly the 2nd most important lineup in Cadillac after the 3rd generation Escalade:aok
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/31-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/15-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/16-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/20-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/21-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/30-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://mgtclass.mgt.unm.edu/Benavidez/2007%20CNCSC/Case%20Study%20Documents/2008%20CTS%20Photos/19-2008-cadillac-cts.jpg)
(http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-2008-cts-preview.jpg)
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best color for this car...
(http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/spy_shots_2008_cadillac_cts_michigan.jpg)
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4,5
plus for interior, but big minus for exterior.
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I`ll have to withhold my rating until I can see the car in reality.
Yaknow...something small enough to view. :aok
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the exterior is awful i'll give it a 3. On the second pic it looks like the front end is the face of a transformer with a big grin.
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After the first picture, I was hoping they hadn't done the same thing on the other side of car... but they did. So, I'd give it 4/10 and that's only because of the Alfa style dial enclosures.
It just looks a bit silly and out of proportion with the massive grill.
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Minus 2.5
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JEQeRLT1HNQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JEQeRLT1HNQ)
Everyone should take notice, this is HIGH QUALITY stuff that GM is rolling off. Possibly the 2nd most important lineup in Cadillac after the 3rd generation Escalade
That being said. My sister in law had one.
After about the 14th trip to the dealer for assorted problems she "dumped the pos"
Said she'll never own another.
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I drive a 1st gen with the 3.6L Sport Package. I've been waiting for the car to come out. I've driven the new 08 3.6L DI with the new Sport Package FE3..and wow!! Its got a bit more grunt 50 more ponies It the ride is a bit more stiff, handles much better. Still a bit of understeer if driven to the end of it limits.
The interior is A+ vs my CTS with its odd dash design. I think that why I got it in the first place. Sound system and the built in HD rocks.. You can store all your CD's or atleast 40gigs worth on it.
I'd have it in my driveway.. alas I need truck/suv to tow my race car. So a new one will have to wait.
I've never had one problem with mine..
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that is one ugly car, where are the tail fins?
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Originally posted by 1K3
Despite some bad news, GM still got something under their sleeeeeves:D
2008 Cadillac CTS
Everyone should take notice, this is HIGH QUALITY stuff that GM is rolling off. Possibly the 2nd most important lineup in Cadillac after the 3rd generation Escalade:aok
You can judge quality from pictures?
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Originally posted by Donzo
You can judge quality from pictures?
Yes. Just glancing at the gap lines looks like low production tolerances.
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9/10 for the most part, i like the way that the new cars are being designed. err, the new american cars i mean.
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Hurry up and buy one then so they can close the productionline already... ;)
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it may just be me, but the basic style reminds me of the Chrysler 300 Monstrosity with caddie badges pasted on it. 3 out of 10 is all i can give it.
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Originally posted by indy007
Yes. Just glancing at the gap lines looks like low production tolerances.
And low production tolerances dictate quality?
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Originally posted by Donzo
And low production tolerances dictate quality?
They're a pretty good indication of it. If somebody can't make a fender or door panel fit correctly... why should I trust them to have high quality drive train components that require far, far more precision?
I distribute, import, and/or broker almost all brands of automotive parts. Spent way too much time in warehouses and dealerships. The short version is, it's pretty sad that I can walk around a Cadillac lot and point out dozens of production issues (unsealed windows, uneven body panels, uneven gap lines, etc, etc). There's far cheaper cars with far higher production standards, and it's a damn shame. I personally like the way Cadillac stuff looks, but I'd never buy one.
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I'll give it a 4 for the engine and powertrain alone. Anything else is a waste. And it's ugly.
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The interior is nice but its shell looks like 90% of the rest of the cars out there. And the grill is too funky for my taste.
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To me it's ugly and over priced. I never cared for caddilac and they haven't done anything to change my mind.
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2nd after the Escalade? That's supposed to be a compliment? The most meaningful thing the Escalade has done is to make the spinning rim an American Icon.
As for the CTS.....All I can say is that Cadillac's niche market is self-propelled coffins for people in holding patterns for the great hereafter. Why those people would want to accelerate their passage to the next life to 150 miles per hour is anybody's guess.
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2 out of 10. That is one ugly car. Why can't American designers come up with something like this?-
(http://www.automarket.bg/wallpaper/aston_martin_db7_9.jpg)
(http://car-reviews.automobile.com/images/cars/ArtImages/14732/inline_04.jpg)
(http://www.driveyourdreams.com/Jan_2005/DB9_large4.gif)
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Originally posted by sluggish
2 out of 10. That is one ugly car. Why can't American designers come up with something like this?-
I think the bigger question is why can't the brits come up with something that doesn't look like that?
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I agree that the Aston Martin is one of the best designed cars EVER, but dont forget this one before you disgard american designers ;)
(http://www.rs-ford.co.uk/2004/gt40.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I agree that the Aston Martin is one of the best designed cars EVER, but dont forget this one before you disgard american designers ;)
or this-
(http://home.woh.rr.com/mitchem/Z06%20Aeros.jpg) (http://gameisgood.com/iB_html/uploads/post-6-15800-Z06_20engine.jpg) (http://www.fastdrive.org/img/corvette_z06_2001_4.jpg)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
I agree that the Aston Martin is one of the best designed cars EVER, but dont forget this one before you disgard american designers ;)
(http://www.rs-ford.co.uk/2004/gt40.jpg)
Astons are pretty, no doubt, but don't you think that the basic shape of that car is a bit used up by now?
Jaguar and Aston have both been milking that shape for at least 10 years now, with at least 4 models... In fact, I remember a very interesting episode of Top Gear where they had a car designer come in as a guest, and was asked to draw the 'next great sportscar'. So he went ahead and drew what was basically a DB9. Seems like that all they've been doing since the mid 90s.
What gives?
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Not worth the time to rate,... Cadillac/GM is making the same cars everyone else is making....many more examples, Toyota Camarys, Hondas, Nissan, Hundyas...
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/8012.jpg)
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/honda-accord-coupe.jpg)
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/Lexus-2007-ES-350.jpg)
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This is a Cadillac
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/cad48h.jpg)
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Originally posted by Airscrew
This is a Cadillac
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/cad48h.jpg)
no no that car does not have air bags, crumple zones, seat belts , high mount brake light, anti-lock brakes, traction control, stability control.
you'll put your eye out. :O
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Originally posted by Neubob
Astons are pretty, no doubt, but don't you think that the basic shape of that car is a bit used up by now?
Jaguar and Aston have both been milking that shape for at least 10 years now, with at least 4 models... In fact, I remember a very interesting episode of Top Gear where they had a car designer come in as a guest, and was asked to draw the 'next great sportscar'. So he went ahead and drew what was basically a DB9. Seems like that all they've been doing since the mid 90s.
What gives?
The lead designer for Jag just came from Aston Martin who designed the DB9. Funny thing is, Jag is doing a little better, now that it looks a little more like a DB9! :p
I just forget his name.
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These are cars, not that ugly "thing" (interior looks just fine imo!)
(http://myfavouritesin.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/koenigsegg_ccx_01.jpg)
(http://www.tuningblogger.de/uploaded_images/AC_Schnitzer_ACS6_M6_2.jpg)
(http://www.supercars.dk/images/products/SLR-2.gif)
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This's getting out of hand... Don't get me started with the Nissan Skyline GTR:furious
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Originally posted by croduh
These are cars, not that ugly "thing" (interior looks just fine imo!)
(http://myfavouritesin.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/koenigsegg_ccx_01.jpg)
(http://www.tuningblogger.de/uploaded_images/AC_Schnitzer_ACS6_M6_2.jpg)
(http://www.supercars.dk/images/products/SLR-2.gif)
Croduh, you've alright in my book, my friend.
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Originally posted by Neubob
Astons are pretty, no doubt, but don't you think that the basic shape of that car is a bit used up by now?
Jaguar and Aston have both been milking that shape for at least 10 years now, with at least 4 models... In fact, I remember a very interesting episode of Top Gear where they had a car designer come in as a guest, and was asked to draw the 'next great sportscar'. So he went ahead and drew what was basically a DB9. Seems like that all they've been doing since the mid 90s.
What gives?
Cant agree with you there bob. When a design is that good and classic there is no need to do any massive change. Its still beautifu. Same goes for Porche 911's... classic shapes that never really goes out of style :)
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Aston Martin? Jaguar? pssss.... the best car, the spanish car, of course :D
(http://www.motorbase.com/pictures/contributions/000121c/std_1954_pegaso_z-102.jpg)
Pegaso Z-102 (1954)
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Originally posted by john9001
no no that car does not have air bags, crumple zones, seat belts , high mount brake light, anti-lock brakes, traction control, stability control.
you'll put your eye out. :O
Doesnt need one.
When going up against todays cars in a collision
it would win 100 times out of 100 times.
And probably keep going as if nothing had happend more then going over a large bump in the road LOL
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Personally I've always been kinda partial to these
(http://blog.wired.com/cars/images/2007/04/08/lotus_exige_01_x_0382.jpg)
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I used to not care much for the design of the newest Caddy but I really like this one. I've read some really good stuff about it too. The interior is a big improvement on the last one. From what I read it is a very sporting vehicle, not the typical old man's car.
I give it a 8+/10.
I wouldn't own one though, I'm more of a Ford guy.
Mark
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
That being said. My sister in law had one.
After about the 14th trip to the dealer for assorted problems she "dumped the pos"
Said she'll never own another.
Was that the 1st generation CTS or the current generation CTS?