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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rich46yo on September 28, 2007, 05:59:50 AM
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Boy if you want to stir up a Hornets nest just start taking out Bish or Knights frontline radars. Usually by the 3rd one, or the 4th, you are being chased by numerous fighters, and then the glorious shootout. Some Bish and Knight sticks seem to take their radars being busted personally. Its just to much fun.
Ive been looking for you DaDonkey, to escort in your Pony, but haven't seen you in the MA.
My preferred radar buster is the KI-67 loaded with 15 100lb bombs set salvo 3 0.30 delay. Anywhere even near calibration will take out the radar.
Why take out radars? #1, cause its fun and your almost guaranteed gunning action. #2, cause blinding the enemy cant help but help your own team. I normally include one attack on a radar factory when I have a evening to play. The B-26 is a pretty good radar buster as well, but the KI is faster, climbs better, and has great range. Its top cannon can end a fight quickly if you can roll into an incoming or climb it to shoot downwards.
to those I shot it out with last night. And tonight when you start seeing your frontline radars going down its probably me. But, I have met a few guys who love to bust radars. My record was all 7 frontline radars once bombed in my B-26.
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funnyest thing ever is watching the bishrooks do their radar porking in doras... usually they end up ramming it but altleast they get that vital radar :rofl
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Originally posted by run90 WEP toolshedder
OMG I bombed one of their acks and survived, now there's PLANES chasing me (http://episteme.arstechnica.com/images/scared.gif) WTF do I do?!
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:D
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I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.
I like the opposing teams to have their radar. I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible. I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight. when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!
what you like to do impedes what I like to do. what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism. I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde. I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way. it should be a perfect fit for you. a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior. sadly this is the way the game is going. the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.
yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base. some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task. finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!! it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.
the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.
that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated. if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.
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Best place to get some OSTIE kills is parked right near the radar tower. Not too close or you might get some damage from bombs or guns. It seems like they take a number and come in one after another. Kinda like a parade & the OSTIE provides the beautiful fireworks! So I say pork if it makes ya happy.
On a side note-what is killshooter?
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Originally posted by waystin2
On a side note-what is killshooter?
Shoot someone with a green icon and find out
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Originally posted by waystin2
[...]On a side note-what is killshooter?
When you shoot a player on your own side (green guy) you take the damage, not them.
Saw a newb last night proudly shoot one of my squad mates just after we upped from the VH. "Bang.....BOOM", he's gone.
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Originally posted by storch
game interrrupting sociopathic behavior
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...
a couple of nights ago Knights were on a Blitzkrieg rolling a base every 10mins or so. I upped in 17s and blinded the 3 frontline bases, finished the ords at 2 of them, then blinded the next 3.
I'd say thats a good use of resources and a contribution to the team effort. especially as it usually pulls a couple of fighters away from their defense too - like its worth chasing buffs at 20k ...
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Not everyone believes in the "win the war" attitude. I've been on a large squad that use to specialize in large missions, and taking bases defended or not. After a while, I found out the only thing that really matter to me in this game.....besides friends.... is the "fight" win or loose, if it a good fight, for me its a blast. As long as I have a base to up from and a bogie to fight, I'm happy.
While our buddy Storch seems to get a bit miffed at those that are bombing away his fun, I just look for fun else where. You go ahead and have your fun taking out radar or what ever, but don't get your panties in a wad when you call for help to take a base and us "fighter" type don't show up to help.
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Originally posted by Lumbergh
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...
a couple of nights ago Knights were on a Blitzkrieg rolling a base every 10mins or so. I upped in 17s and blinded the 3 frontline bases, finished the ords at 2 of them, then blinded the next 3.
I'd say thats a good use of resources and a contribution to the team effort. especially as it usually pulls a couple of fighters away from their defense too - like its worth chasing buffs at 20k ...
Play the way you like. No matter what that game play is like, there will be someone to insult your style.
It's been said before. It's your $15, spend it the way you like. Only a first class sphincter will complain because you aren't playing "their" way. Ignore them...
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Originally posted by storch
I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.
I like the opposing teams to have their radar. I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible. I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight. when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!
what you like to do impedes what I like to do. what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism. I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde. I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way. it should be a perfect fit for you. a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior. sadly this is the way the game is going. the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.
yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base. some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task. finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!! it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.
the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.
that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated. if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.
The above loosely translated........
Play my way or your all second class players.
C'mon Storch...play the "Whole" game. It does say on the home page "WWII Combat Experience"...there was a lot more to WWII Combat Tactics than just furballing.
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i just laugh @ the dar porkers, they really think they doing something LOL.
also killing a single dar tower with multiple bombs kills bomber hit% LOL.
only thing killin dar does is turn off dot dar. still get dar bars and base flashings. if i know ur in sector ill still find u and kill u. just more easy meat for the table.
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If your going to hunt in an enemys air space and want to avoid the gangbang then porking his radar helps.
Attacking bases and leaving their dar up is just plain dumb IMO
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I too enjoy the ole front line radar raid.
I too use the KI as my delivery vehicle.
I normally on fly it up around 10k, and no higher than 15k.
Atleast they chase you, I normally can't even get anyone to up to chase me even though it's pretty clear what's happening after the 2nd base goes dark.
Storch: I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs. Seems like you have some sort of facination with them. Did you ask to join and they turned you away? Do you envy them and wish you had a squad liek theirs?
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Thanks SCCA.
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Originally posted by 68Boomer
It does say on the home page "WWII Combat Experience"...there was a lot more to WWII Combat Tactics than just furballing.
I dont think experience and tactics are the same thing and I dont think either one in this game is very similar to anything that happened in WWII. Operation of the planes finding the enemy and destroying radar (to name one) is all a lot easier in AH. I would like to see HT program a single player game and see how close he could get it.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
funnyest thing ever is watching the bishrooks do their radar porking in doras... usually they end up ramming it but altleast they get that vital radar :rofl
That would have been us... We took out 7 nit RADARS is about 30 minutes all with doras 1 500kg bomb and a dozen tiny rockest! What fun!
1 FW 190 D: zero perks
1 500 kg gravity bomb: available if ord is up
12 teeeny weeeny rockets: free
The Kinghts reaction when 7 RADARS go down in a half hour: Priceless
LMAO!!!!
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Those would have been F-8s. Doras don't have a rocket option.
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Originally posted by Lumbergh
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...
If taking bases was the object of the game, the player that takes the most bases would be the top ranked player. That is not the case. The object is to simulate combat between WWII planes and vehicles. Furballing promotes combat. Fighting to win the map promotes combat. Hitech has clearly stated both are valid forms of gameplay.
A note that I would add though is that many rules have been added to the game because the mindset that "winning the war" is the ultimate object of the game tends to surpress/avoid actual combat. I cant think of a single rule that was made because furballers were not contributing to the gameplay environment that HT intended.
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Originally posted by Tiger
IStorch: I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs.
I got a laugh out of this. Very astute observation. I predict that the same ol' song will play again soon.:lol
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Personally, on bombing missions I usually hit what may count concerning tatics. Hitting radar has it's purpose, that goes without saying. Porking radar might be a good learning "tool" in the "do's and don't's" and at the same time not really accomplishing anything for your side. When I first started playing, I porked radar alot with bombers. Then I began to realize that hitting VH or pot-holing airstrips, or killing fighter hangers on bases that are being used against my side is alot more fun.
By taking out VH or FH on neighboring enemy bases that are using it as their base of operations to capture one our bases does help your side. Taking out the radar first doesn't really help too much in that regard, but take out their VH capacity or fighters or go nose first killing their ack does. I am not saying killing radar isn't necessary, just not a high priority for me. Gotta hit 'em where it hurts. Flying a 30 minute mission across the map with B24's or B17's to hit radar or even hangers on bases that are idle just seems unfun to me and boring.
If others like hitting radar to knock them out on the front line, then it is OK by me. If others don't approve, that's OK too. Whatever floats one boat.
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Not everyone believes in the "win the war" attitude. I've been on a large squad that use to specialize in large missions, and taking bases defended or not. After a while, I found out the only thing that really matter to me in this game.....besides friends.... is the "fight" win or loose, if it a good fight, for me its a blast. As long as I have a base to up from and a bogie to fight, I'm happy.
While our buddy Storch seems to get a bit miffed at those that are bombing away his fun, I just look for fun else where. You go ahead and have your fun taking out radar or what ever, but don't get your panties in a wad when you call for help to take a base and us "fighter" type don't show up to help.
sometimes that is just not possible fugitive. I wish it were though. the obvious solution is a fighter town in every map. take the pizza map as a paradigm then create a bowl with 50k mountains with three bases at equidistant mesas at around 15k and a body of water at sea level with three sea level bases. make these bases uncapturable. that would immediately solve the problem those that want to furball would not need to bother or be bothered by anyone else. the war winners are then free to avoid each other in their circle jerk to see who captures the mostest fastest.
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LOL 190A-8 with full fuel and send a couple guys to hit different bases and just keep moving up the line until death.
Works exeptionally well ive dropped up to 7 bases dar befor.
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thunderegg, a while back I read you sigline and it gave me a chuckle as well as making great sense to me. I have started applying that principle when dealing with insurance agents, bureaucrats and certain members on this and other BBS's if you will but read between the lines you will understand why I'm not responding to you and others like you. thanks for the advice I have taken it to heart.
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Originally posted by Tiger
Storch: I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs. Seems like you have some sort of facination with them. Did you ask to join and they turned you away? Do you envy them and wish you had a squad liek theirs?
Ankle envy. There are no ankles in AH that Storchita won't try and hump.
ack-ack
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Boy, theres never a lack of one who fails to disappoint around here. Its a game Pal. Radars are as legitimate targets as is anything else on the map.
Its just a shame someone else is interfering in your game now isn't it? In fact your post is so condescending and moronic Im going to put you on ignore. To bad you didn't get the kill. Learn to look out your windows...........dweeb.
Gee, i cant wait to get back into the game and play to benefit storch.
I cant put him on ignore. This guys a moderator? God help us, and hes probably another resident internet psychologist as well eh?
Originally posted by storch
I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.
I like the opposing teams to have their radar. I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible. I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight. when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!
what you like to do impedes what I like to do. what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism. I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde. I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way. it should be a perfect fit for you. a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior. sadly this is the way the game is going. the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.
yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base. some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task. finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!! it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.
the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.
that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated. if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
... I cant put him on ignore. This guys a moderator? ...
:huh :O
Storch is a moderator
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I didn't believe it until I tried to put him on the ignore list. :rofl :rofl :rofl
P.S. I would never put him on ignore cause I need my laughs.
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Originally posted by Solar10
:huh :O
Storch is a moderator
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I didn't believe it until I tried to put him on the ignore list. :rofl :rofl :rofl
P.S. I would never put him on ignore cause I need my laughs.
Actually it kinda breaks my heart there is a human being on the other end of his post that took the time to type out all that nonsense. I think storch needs to take an occasional walk around the block. Ya'know kid these are all cartoon targets we are shooting down, or, getting shot down in. You realize that dontcha?
Most of the folks Ive met in this community are really nice folks. But boy, we got a few who think they are Red Baron circa 1917 western front.:huh
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AceJoe is the man for the job...
he used to run strato missions...
Get about 6 guys together in 17s, with 100lbs...climb up to 30K and pick dars one by one...with pony escorts sometimes :D
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Originally posted by Solar10
Storch is a moderator
I believe those who are a "moderator" on a squad forum can't be "ignored".
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Ok, so I have been in the DA recently working with some nice folks on my 1v1 fights. I'll be on tonight, and I'm already fidgety with anticipation lol. Ok, what state do you live in, and what time will you be on? That way I can work around the time zone differences. Hope to be up there escorting!:aok
donkey
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Originally posted by storch
I take a dim view of porkers in general and an even dimmer view of dedicated radar porkers.
I like the opposing teams to have their radar. I like them to see the red dot that represents me to be visible. I like that feature because it provides the promise of a fight. when I take off I do so in the hope of encountering another like minded player or three. I want to be found!!!!
what you like to do impedes what I like to do. what I do has no impact on what you do hence the classic furballer/toolshedder schism. I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde. I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way. it should be a perfect fit for you. a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior. sadly this is the way the game is going. the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.
yesterday afternoon I was cruising at 8k in a 190A-5 looking for a fight near a nit base. some player (perhaps yourself?) with your mindset had porked all opposition team front line radar making finding a fight an arduous task. finally a P47N bounces from the AKAKosphere!!!! it takes me ten minutes to wear down his E advantage and somewhat level the playing field as I pull the hapless fellow into what was his final rope, from my blind side a friendly in an La-7 swoops in and kills the floundering P47 and over range tells me +CLEAR+ in a proud and confident voice.
the clueless countryman probably did what he expected he would need someone to do for him were the situation reversed.
that fight embodies my ardent desire to see killshooter eliminated. if it were I would shoot your radar porking bombers and I would have shot down that boyscout helpful countryman too.
In my honest opinion, I think that is a load of bull. Porking front line radars?? I guess he'll just have to ask on 200 next time if there's going to be cons at the altitude he plans on flying at, and where he plans on bombing, and not go till there is.
Plus, 95% that I know a radar is down at a certain base, ESPECIALLY a front line base, I know that there is action there, or will be shortly (if they sent someone ahead to hit it).
PS: I think your third paragraph is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time. If you don't like your FRONT LINE radars being hit, why don't you cap one of them.
In my opinion whining about someone "porking" radars on an enemies front should be pretty low on the list; there are a lot worse things.
donkey
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In my opinion he's quite mad. Storchy should lay off the energy drinks or maybe go out on a date or something. To me "sociopathic behavior" is when I show up somewheres and theres seven bodies with bullets holes in them. Thats "real bodies" with "real bullet holes".
Storchy you gotta lighten up kid. The rest of us aren't playing this game to worship you, play your way, or help you run your kill count up. We dont care if theres a nice functioning radar up so you can go directly to the fighters you want to furball with. Dude, that post was just amazing.....Storchy!
Tellya what Storchy? You and me will start from scratch. "Give me a pound dog"! We'll forget you entire post.
Donkey Im usually on from about 1600 EST to 2100 or 2200 est. Lately Ive been in the Blue MA. I did make two radar runs tonight, took down two radars, aced 2 fighters, till the blighters got me. The next one I aced a fighter but got damage so I brought the KI's home. Normally I'd keep going but I had something to do.
It would be great to fly with you sir. I'd feel a lot better with a Pony watching my back.
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rich, I might have more time on the crapper than you have on the planet. forget nothing.
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i do agree with some of the things storch said though rich. you like bombing, i like fighting (furballing/duelling) and when friendly and enemy dar is up it means both sides can find a fight nice and quickly.
if a base is really under attack, then by all means bomb the place to smithereens, all part of the fun! what gets me, and i think storch too, is why some guys go out of their way to pork dar and things at bases that aren't under attack and a nice fight is going on, because it can end up ruining the fight, which many people were really enjoying.
it's great you have your fun, just try to make sure you're not deliberately trying to ruin the fun of others ;)
when i was new i loved bombing everything. i used to run HQ missions alone undetected, hehe, got giggles with that (and i'm sure i pissed a lot of people off lol). the thing is, killing 3d models of houses and hangars gets very boring after a while, while in fighters, each fight is different, different planes, pilots conditions etc.
i've been here 3 yrs now, and this is the only game that has ever really held my attention for a long time, because of that unique experience in every fight. i can understand where storch is coming from, because i get really ANGRY when some buff pilot comes through and bombs the CV in the middle of an awesome sea furball, or the tard that bombs fighter town FH's, because they're deliberately spoiling my fun. some tosser spoils a good fight, and there aren't any others going on, sometimes i just log right off because i get so annoyed.
i don't like the swarms of lgays and b24s decending on a base, whether i'm with em or against em! 'win the war' just really isn't my thing, and MANY people feel exactly the same way.
hope you understand where we're coming from now? :)
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Major I radar bust only frontline bases where action is going on. I thought I made that clear.
As to other targets? I wish I had the means to take out their radars before I bombed them. For instance the strats that are within radar range of a nearby elevated airbase. Why would any bomber stick be stupid enough to leave a radar up, if he didn't have to, leaving little red dots for the enemy to fly directly to?
The point here is to each their own. For me chasing my tail in fighters, while in a furball, is BORING! And if you want to find a "fight" then I suggest going to the first enemy airbase with huge dars and 90 of your own little green dots flying around on the map. Thats where 99% of the fighters live anyways. Leaving radars up so you can save gas and shoot down my own teams bombers and Jabos more easily???? Gee how sporting of me that would be. I am just crushed I force you and Storchy to burn your cartoon energy, and cartoon gas, in your cartoon airplanes, and impede your shooting down my own teams cartoon airplanes. Oh the Horror!
You get mad when a bomber stick bombs a CV during a furball? Dude thats what bomber sticks are supposed to do. Your another one!
Tellya what, I get mad when 5 fighters gang up on my bombers when Im IB to a target. Hows that?
I understand exactly where your coming from. You and Storchyboy are selfish and expect others to play according to your rules. I understand completely! Another Red Baron.
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You get mad when 5 guys "gang up" on your bombers?? :rofl Spend the time climbing and you wont find 5 guys bothering to grab to 20-25k for you.
Most fun thing in the game is to climb up and pluck down bomber guys that have spent the better part of the day climbing :D Oh and when im in bombers i really hope someone climbs up to me so i can try to shoot them down..
this is not Aces Evading Combat High 2 :D
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
You and Storchyboy are selfish and expect others to play according to your rules. I understand completely! Another Red Baron.
Uh...oh
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errrrrrr, lol rich, why so aggressive? i wasn't getting aggressive with you (although storch may have been a bit forceful).
i was purely explaining that you should have you fun, but try to keep an eye out not to deliberately spoil a lot of fun for others. if let's say there's a great furball going on, and you up to go kill just FH's at one of the bases, deliberately trying to stop the fight and ruin people's fun, just for the sake of pissing people off, (or some win the war jackprettythanges think that furballs are a waste of their teams resources and try to limit their own team's fighting ability, so that the fighter sticks will attack bases instead of other planes)
that to me is a LOT more of a selfish attitude than furballers getting pissed with toolshedders, if you see where i'm coming from?
that was storches point about being a sociopath (deliberately being an arse to get a rise out of people)
i'm not saying you are at all, just saying, just try to make sure you're not doing that.
let's say there's a great CV fight going on (your CV close to a base), and you are on your way to bomb the enemy FH's, but when you get there you see a lot of people having fun, so instead you take out all the ord at that base (your ki67 would be great at this) and try to take out ord at any nearby bases. isn't that nicer? you're bombing stuff and having fun in the thick of the battle, and HELPING your team's fight by making sure the other guys can't kill the CV
now that is team playing, to me. doing what you can to help your team in what they're doing, be it spotting for friendly GV's, clearing the way for a friend's buffs etc. in this case it's helping those in your team to keep the fight that they're enjoying alive :)
rich, hope you don't think i was getting on your back too much, didn't mean to sound like that, just a friendly explaination of why some fighter guys get annoyed with toolshedders :aok
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Rich, Having fun is what matters.You porked knights radar, so what??? The knights are gonna have to shut up and deal with it.
P.S. BIGGLES YOUR MY HERO :D
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Originally posted by Tiger
Storch: I'm proud of you, you almost let this post go an hour without bring up the BoPs. Seems like you have some sort of fascination with them. Did you ask to join and they turned you away? Do you envy them and wish you had a squad like theirs?
You should see his text on green channel. You'll laugh.
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
P.S. BIGGLES YOUR MY HERO :D
:rofl ;)
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Originally posted by Lumbergh
ok its only my first tour but this is a game, the object is to win by taking bases, disabling enemy radar is one part of a strategy to take bases. wth is wrong with that?
I might argue that making no attempt to take bases and move the game on while only furballing is "game interrrupting behavior" ...
a couple of nights ago Knights were on a Blitzkrieg rolling a base every 10mins or so. I upped in 17s and blinded the 3 frontline bases, finished the ords at 2 of them, then blinded the next 3.
I'd say thats a good use of resources and a contribution to the team effort. especially as it usually pulls a couple of fighters away from their defense too - like its worth chasing buffs at 20k ...
The object of the game is to have fun.
Are you having fun?
If the answer is yes.
then the objective has been reached.
I enjoy all aspects of the game. From furballing to GVing to baseporking.
Depending on how I feel like having fun at that particular moment.
As for the original post. there is some great fun to be had at porking a bases dar,Troops or ammo. then being chased by 5 or 6 of the now angry opponents.
Not only are you guarentted a fight. But because its you against many. Its guarateed to be a challange.
Typically my favorite Base type targets to be porked is I find where the hord is trying to take a base through overwhelming numbers. and instead of taking out Dar. I'll kill off ammo.
This makes it more difficult for the hordwarriors to just milkrun a base to death and pretty much guarantees a fiurball. Or at least forces the opponents to fly farther to bomb the base
But dont listen to the cries of "toolshedder"
Furballing can be just as mindless. Going round and round in circles fighting for nothing more then to fight again.
But like toolshedding its another way to have fun.
bottom line is if your having fun.
Have at it.
THAT is the objective of the game
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Nilsen I do believe you missed my point. Try reading it again.
Biggles, I hurried my post cause I had to go to work. I did not mean to be aggressive to you. You did post as a gentleman, even if your thought process is skewed. Tellya the truth until Storchy and you posted I had absolutely no idea I was "ruining anyone's fun". Ive only been in this game for a few months.
Mind you Im still going to do it because its fun for me and its not against any rules. So far two people have weighed in against it. And frankly, I'll go to my grave wondering how bombing cartoon radars, with cartoon bombers, is ruining anyone's fun. Maybe its just not my generation.
Srorchy needs a little time away from the computer I think. If he wants to see sociopaths I have an open invitation to let him meet some. I mean get a grip guys. And The problem with "pretending to be an arse" is you leave a lot of people in your wake "thinking your an arse", so its best not even to pretend.
I do bomb stuff. All kinds of stuff. I take bombers up to 12,000' to 20,000' and bomb every type of target in the game. I fly bombers exclusively and have started running goons for my team. I call for targets and when teammates give me targets that need hitting, I hit them! You thought all I do is bomb radars??? I man the guns around airfields and kill the vulchers too. Actually the only type of target I haven't bombed is a CV. So I guess were square right?
Probably the reason I dont join the Knights is I like flying against them. They have some terrific sticks many of whom are true gentleman. You have to fly against guys like that to grow.
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Rich, check your PM, please.
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Here's something I've posted a couple of times in the past but is relevant to this conversation:
When I first started here, and for a long time after, I used to go fly a buff out and take (or at least try to take) the hangers out at a field that was at one end of a "good fight". It wasn't to piss anyone off. I thought I was doing the right thing. If the fight was stalled between two bases and through bombing the enemy base our country could move forward then I had, in my mind, positively influenced the direction of the fight.
Even now it's sometimes hard to distinguish between a furball and a stalemate when flying over at altitude.
For the most part, I doubt most bomber pilots are trying to piss you off (although some may be), rather I think they consider themselves contributing to the cause.
Even if the base is taken the furball will redevelop in another location.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Boy if you want to stir up a Hornets nest just start taking out Bish or Knights frontline radars. Usually by the 3rd one, or the 4th, you are being chased by numerous fighters, and then the glorious shootout. Some Bish and Knight sticks seem to take their radars being busted personally. Its just to much fun.
Ive been looking for you DaDonkey, to escort in your Pony, but haven't seen you in the MA.
My preferred radar buster is the KI-67 loaded with 15 100lb bombs set salvo 3 0.30 delay. Anywhere even near calibration will take out the radar.
Why take out radars? #1, cause its fun and your almost guaranteed gunning action. #2, cause blinding the enemy cant help but help your own team. I normally include one attack on a radar factory when I have a evening to play. The B-26 is a pretty good radar buster as well, but the KI is faster, climbs better, and has great range. Its top cannon can end a fight quickly if you can roll into an incoming or climb it to shoot downwards.
to those I shot it out with last night. And tonight when you start seeing your frontline radars going down its probably me. But, I have met a few guys who love to bust radars. My record was all 7 frontline radars once bombed in my B-26.
wow, you must be so proud....
do you hope to expand your horizons and try ORD someday?
there ya go.... 30 seconds outta my life down the drain.....
cya porky
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Originally posted by froger
wow, you must be so proud....
do you hope to expand your horizons and try ORD someday?
there ya go.... 30 seconds outta my life down the drain.....
cya porky
Froger, do you have some purpose in this thread other then being a screwball? Did you not read my post that I bomb all kinds of targets? Froggie????
Im waiting patiently for your seal of approval.
Yaknow fellas I posted this as lighthearted thread about an aspect of the game I have fun with. I did not expect misfits to ruin it.
Course they've ruined about every other thread I started.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I did not expect misfits to ruin it.
Course they've ruined about every other thread I started.
Ever think they are not the misfits?
Bronk
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ever think they are not the misfits?
Bronk
pwned :rofl
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rich, i didn't say that what you were doing WAS spoiling things for others, just giving you some friendly advice on not going out of your way to do something that you know will kill a good furball.
sort of a 'watch out for doing something like that in the future' thing. not saying you do or have, just saying watch out for it :)
i'm glad you're having fun, just making sure you don't unwittingly spoil fun for many others :) radar isn't really a big problem. killing good furballs off by dropping hangars or destroying CV's can suck a bit though :(
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
rich, i didn't say that what you were doing WAS spoiling things for others, just giving you some friendly advice on not going out of your way to do something that you know will kill a good furball.
sort of a 'watch out for doing something like that in the future' thing. not saying you do or have, just saying watch out for it :)
i'm glad you're having fun, just making sure you don't unwittingly spoil fun for many others :) radar isn't really a big problem. killing good furballs off by dropping hangars or destroying CV's can suck a bit though :(
Oh brother, forget the whole thread. Im going to bomb whatever the heck I want to bomb and if anyone dont like it they can piss off.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Oh brother, forget the whole thread. Im going to bomb whatever the heck I want to bomb and if anyone dont like it they can piss off.
can u say griefer:huh
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Thats the game at its best I believe. When two guys can go into battle and then after discuss and breakdown the fight. Ive learned quite a bit with doing that, and I believe, made some friends.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Im going to bomb whatever the heck I want to bomb and if anyone dont like it they can piss off.
How is that making friends thing going? ;)
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
My record was all 7 frontline radars once bombed in my B-26.
This is exactly why we need the full manual bomb-sight calibration back. Such a feat would mean something then.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Froger, do you have some purpose in this thread other then being a screwball? Did you not read my post that I bomb all kinds of targets? Froggie????
Im waiting patiently for your seal of approval.
Yaknow fellas I posted this as lighthearted thread about an aspect of the game I have fun with. I did not expect misfits to ruin it.
Course they've ruined about every other thread I started.
my bad rich...i like havin fun doin strat stuff too........
FROGIE <-------sometimes outta line
>>>S<<<:)
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Where is Laz with a good "fluffer" comment?*sigh*
:D
Bronk
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Originally posted by bozon
This is exactly why we need the full manual bomb-sight calibration back. Such a feat would mean something then.
amen. in between the slaved defensive guns on three ships, the ability to move along at almost 300 mph and that sissified bombsight it's little wonder that the bombers serve in such an annoying fashion within the game.
bombers are easily the most arcadish feature in this game, followed closely by that awful flap auto retracting feature in the fighters.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Yaknow fellas I posted this as lighthearted thread about an aspect of the game I have fun with.
it's hard to tell a person's intent on the intardnet. so in nothing but lightheartedness I believe you really should switch to a more bomb**** friendly country (bish) that way I could lightheartedly find you and obliterate your bombers until you learned to leave the poor hapless but fight facilitating radar alone.
years ago we started a squad dedicated to the sole purpose of eradicating bomb****s and we became very proficient at it. so much so that we became bored with slapping you types down. in time it became so monotonously routine that we simply sort of moved on. however just as in riding your ol' lady er your bicycle it takes but a moment to polish off the fine patina accumulated on the surface and have those skills honed to perfection and mow down any number of you annoying types, in a lighthearted way of course.
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Originally posted by storch
it's hard to tell a person's intent on the intardnet. so in nothing but lightheartedness I believe you really should switch to a more fluffertard friendly country (bish) that way I could lightheartedly find you and obliterate you fluffers until you learned to leave the poor hapless but fight facilitating radar alone.
years ago we started a squad dedicated to the sole purpose of eradicating fluffertards and we became very proficient at it. so much so that we became bored with slapping you types down. in time it became so monotonously routine that we simply sort of moved on. however just as in riding your ol' lady er your bicycle it takes but a moment to polish off the fine patina accumulated on the surface and have those skills honed to perfection and mow down any number of you annoying types, in a lighthearted way of course.
Felt this needed a bit more zing.
Bronk
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Furball???......more like cherry picker ;)
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your all right and yet!!
sounds like storch needs a more active D.A. and thats kool too i used too love the D.A. but have not been since the change more than 2 or 3! times it just seems to big and not enough players there yet huge furballs in the main with no purpose at all exept to kill each other, while others are trying to win maps. every one is mad at the other for helping or not helping.
the radars need to go down in the main cause thats the first step in base capture or at least one of them. i hate it when all my radars are down i ve got too fly up there and wait for someone to show up it takes man power away from the fight. thats good for the other side tho! other times i love to go show myself like storch said so someone will come up and play!
i think the D.A. needs some att. some way to attract the furballers maybe king of the D.A. (probably is one i just didnt get the memo). o more pizza here gotta go mmmm mushrooms!!
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This is exactly why we need the full manual bomb-sight calibration back. Such a feat would mean something then.[/qoute]
Not too long ago I would have said, "Shut your mouth boy".
But now??? I have to agree. The auto type calibration takes a lot out of reality. If that type of bombsite were used in WWII, the war would have been over a lot sooner. I fly bombers a lot. But now I usually try to hit what needs hit, not fly for an hour to hit a base that stands idle....doing nothing. No fun in that.
Hitting radar does have it's purpose just as furballing does in it's own way. Someone said that bombers/bombing is arcadish. Yes and no to that in my opinion. If one were to fly bomber or even a fighter to get a higher score, to me, that's arcadish. If you are fighting to achieve an objective that's a "plot" or perhaps a means to an end and damn the score. Both ways are OK by me. Unfortunately, many of us have to deal with the big ego's in the arenas just as we do here in the forums it's the nature of the beast concerning human nature. But it's just a game. A world within the world that we can turn off at any time and forget what happened to offend us or whatever.
Now.....about that manual calibration. I think that if that were utilized again, you'd see the skill levels either go down or maybe up. I've seen many buff drivers still miss using the auto calibrations. So there is an amount of skill needed just for that and knowing your plane or even the shortcomings of the software design is determental to whatever you decide to do in the game. If I had to fly into a hot zone, manually calibrate (continually), correcting course, look for bandits, gun at bandits and hopefully hit my target without dying the the "boring" factor is gone. For those that want to kill buffs...bring it on. Fun for me and you...at least for me. I applaud those that use their skill and effort to take me out knowing full well that I have my hands full with 3 different things (calibrating, flying and defense). If they are annoyed by this...big deal. That's their problem, not mine. No harm, no foul.
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Originally posted by storch
it's hard to tell a person's intent on the intardnet. so in nothing but lightheartedness I believe you really should switch to a more bomb**** friendly country (bish) that way I could lightheartedly find you and obliterate your bombers until you learned to leave the poor hapless but fight facilitating radar alone.
years ago we started a squad dedicated to the sole purpose of eradicating bomb****s and we became very proficient at it. so much so that we became bored with slapping you types down. in time it became so monotonously routine that we simply sort of moved on. however just as in riding your ol' lady er your bicycle it takes but a moment to polish off the fine patina accumulated on the surface and have those skills honed to perfection and mow down any number of you annoying types, in a lighthearted way of course.
Storch, you are one strange cat. How old are you?
I bet you have a Little red baron outfit you wear when you play your cartoon fighter game. You know? The hat, the scarf, the leather jacket to go with your leather chaps. Hers a song that no doubt is before your time. It reminds me of you....sitting there in your little outfit.
After the turn of the century
In the clear blue skies over Germany
Came a roar and a thunder men had never heard
Like the scream and the sound of a big war bird
Up in the sky, a man in a plane
Baron von Storch was his name
Eighty men tried, and eighty men died
Now they're buried together on the countryside
Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up the score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
of the Bloody Red Baron of Aces High
In the nick of time, a hero arose
A funny-looking dog with a big black nose
He flew into the sky to seek revenge
But the Baron shot him down - "Curses, foiled again!"
Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up the score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
of the Bloody Red Baron of Aces High
Now, Snoopy had sworn that he'd get that man
So he asked the Great Pumpkin for a new battle plan
He challenged the German to a real dogfight
While the Baron was laughing, he got him in his sight
That Bloody Red Baron was in a fix
He'd tried everything, but he'd run out of tricks
Snoopy fired once, and he fired twice
And that Bloody Red Baron went spinning out of sight
Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up the score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
of the Bloody Red Baron of Aces High
Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty or more
The Bloody Red Baron was rollin' up the score
Eighty men died tryin' to end that spree
of the Bloody Red Baron of Aces High
:rofl
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storch invented sarcasm and dirt... its true......
jk :p
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Rich6yo = newb pork tard. Those that can fight do, those that cannot pork to ruin the fun of those fighting.
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ya rich is a nugget, a highly opinionated nugget who does not allow the facts to confuse him.
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Originally posted by storch
ya rich is a nugget, a highly opinionated nugget who does not allow the facts to confuse him.
Is there any moderation in this forum by AH? Now that this fool has ruined my thread can you please lock it?
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say uncle you nugget......... oh wait.... you just did.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Is there any moderation in this forum by AH? Now that this fool has ruined my thread can you please lock it?
Hmm... It seems to me you ruined your own thread.
Storch simply replied with his opinion of your topic which members are free to do on these BBs. You, on the other hand, have continuously tried to force differing opinions to your way of thinking by attacking the posters, and unsuccessfully so I might add.
There's many facets to this game and many ways to play. Yours is no more or less valid than anyone elses, nor is your opinion.
Just my $0.02.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Hmm... It seems to me you ruined your own thread.
Storch simply replied with his opinion of your topic which members are free to do on these BBs. You, on the other hand, have continuously tried to force differing opinions to your way of thinking by attacking the posters, and unsuccessfully so I might add.
There's many facets to this game and many ways to play. Yours is no more or less valid than anyone elses, nor is your opinion.
Just my $0.02.
Yeah, sure Eagle:lol
Storch #1, """" I believe you should switch to bish, find a nice bish squad that likes what you like and fly with their horde. I suggest the FoSGs they are just that way. it should be a perfect fit for you. a useless skwad dedicated to toolshedding and game interrrupting sociopathic behavior. sadly this is the way the game is going. the ack runners radar porkers toolshedders gangers spawn hanger campers and other limpwristed behavior has become the norm but it wasn't always this way.""""""
More Storch""""""""""it's hard to tell a person's intent on the intardnet. so in nothing but lightheartedness I believe you really should switch to a more bomb**** friendly country (bish) that way I could lightheartedly find you and obliterate your bombers until you learned to leave the poor hapless but fight facilitating radar alone.
years ago we started a squad dedicated to the sole purpose of eradicating bomb****s and we became very proficient at it. so much so that we became bored with slapping you types down. in time it became so monotonously routine that we simply sort of moved on. however just as in riding your ol' lady er your bicycle it takes but a moment to polish off the fine patina accumulated on the surface and have those skills honed to perfection and mow down any number of you annoying types, in a lighthearted way of course."""""""""""
What a great way to introduce yourself to a new member who posted an innocent lighthearted topic. If your going to be a lickspittle Eagle why would you do for with a twisted little man like Storch?
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
If your going to be a lickspittle Eagle why would you do for with a twisted little man like Storch?
Check his avatar. He's got great legs! ;)
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just shaved the hummers too
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Check his avatar. He's got great legs! ;)
I hope so Eagle. I would have prefferred the thread stay light and respectful but we bomber sticks dont like being called "bomb****s". At least I dont.
If it cant stay that way then lets just let it die off.
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buffy, why don't you try a new tactic? see if the mommy mommy make the bad man stop approach yields better results for you.
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Rich...don't take this stuff personal. Let it go. It really, really doesn't matter. Just keep doing what you like. You cannot please everyone plus opinions vary on all facets of the game. :cool:
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Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and most of them stink.
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or everyone has an opinion and they are all equally valid and equally dismissable.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I hope so Eagle. I would have prefferred the thread stay light and respectful but we bomber sticks dont like being called "bomb****s". At least I dont.
If it cant stay that way then lets just let it die off.
How about fluffers, that better?;)
Once again, where the hell is Laz when ya need him?
:D
Bronk
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Originally posted by comet61
Rich...don't take this stuff personal. Let it go. It really, really doesn't matter. Just keep doing what you like. You cannot please everyone plus opinions vary on all facets of the game. :cool:
What made you think I take it personal Comet?
BTW I lost you the other day in the 26s. Did you make it back? Buzz me anytime my friend and we'll fly any aircraft you want.