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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Airscrew on September 28, 2007, 02:02:18 PM
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alright ya'll I need some advice and/or help here. It seems that one corner of the my house has become the favorite hang out for about 200 or more hornets, they seem to have found away to get up in the roof (even though there is screen material blocking the vents) no attic, its a doublewide...
anybody have any suggestions for weapons of mass destruction to use against large hordes of hornets, that minimize my exposure to angry retaliation or result in the descruction of my house. I have some Ortho Hornet/Wasp spray but I usually only encounter a nest here and there with only 10 or so hornets on it.
Is there a particular time off day thats is better to strike? My first concern is getting rid of the hornets that are massed on the corner of the house. 2nd problem is trying to kill all the ones up inside the roof
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we hade once a similar problem, the hughe nest was at the garage roof.
At night times some hornets where entering our living room making alot of noise.
What i did i used the vacuum cleaner to suck each one manually in.
i remember 20-30 that night alone. Next night they where much less
and so on until 100% clean.
ps. dont let the vacum-cleaner inside the house, some hornets found a way
out of it! and it started all again... so i put the cleaner outside to finaly get
my deserved sleep.
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Paul Harvey spoke earlier this week about a product that is shaped like a wasp/hornets nest that you simply place by the existing nest. Apparently they fear attack from the "new colony", so they move on. Dunno if it works and can't remember what its called. Try This Link (http://www.google.com)
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Find the nest, grab it, throw it to the ground and stomp on it.
Post results...with pics.
:aok
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Kill however many you can and seal up any crevices that may exist. When I've had to deal with them in the past they've found tiny holes or made their own holes to next in. Luckily they have a habit of going away in the winter.
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Hornets Everywhere
I have it on good authority that the F-35 is supposed to address these concerns.
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I saw the thread title and I was hoping it was a quote from Ahmadinejad about the air traffic over Teheran.
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gas works wonders. All you have to do is find a way to deploy it to the nest. you can also use a air-soft gun and from a safe dis, shoot it down. A .22 with rat shot works well too.
But if all else fails grab it throw it to the ground and stomp but please post the pics.:rofl :O :aok
RED26
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Curval, Red, that is just so wrong...but oh so funny..........oh, I've got nothing on getting rid of hornets..sorry.....
Wurzel
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funny Curval and Red, gee why didnt I think of that:D besides there is no nest, at least not on the outside of the house... these hornets are massed in an area about 3 feet by 3 feet, just a solid mass of hornets...
The vacuum cleaner idea sounds interesting, all I need is a 20 foot extention cause I dont really want to get any closer than that.
I'm considering pulling the van up beside the house and sit inside, roll down the window, spray the hornet spray, then roll the window back up, wait for them to settle down and then repeat. I might try using the hose and spray them off the house with water but I'm not crazy about the vision of 300 hornets flying around pissed off... I do have a small liquid spray tank that you pump up, I could put some super concentrated bug killer in that, it can be set for stream or wide spray...
I'll take a picture of 'em when I get home
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If you need a good anti-hornet spray in a pinch,WD40(or WMD40..lol) works great.The oil coats their wings so they cant fly,they drop to the ground and the penetrating oil finishes em off in seconds.
For added fun,once u get they spray goin,put your lighter to it.
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Horde of hornets?
How about?
(http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/58/33/0000035833_20061116154723.jpg)
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I would love to do that, just wish my house was made from Asbestos :t looks like fun though, I want one...
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dirty jobs covered this a few episodes ago...
guy in a bee suit, pulled off about 8 foot x 8 foot section of a wall of a house with a nest fully behind / inside the wall.
smoke makes them sleepy or something and they all bunch up, then vacuum away.
I do know plain water = bad
I'd recommend either a pro exterminator or some willingness to be stung a few + times.
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You use to be able to buy "Raid" for wasps specifically. The can shoots like ten feet in a thick stream. Wait till dusk as they all congregate to the hive at night. Begin spray from a distance and slowly close in. Saturate the hive.
Did this a my place a few years ago, two applications over two evenings, problem never returned.
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Wire a length (25 feet or more) of hose to the exhaust of your lawnmower or car. Place the hose into the hole, crack or crevase and seal as best you can with rags. Start the mower/car and kill them with carbon monoxide. Make sure nobody stays in the house and air it out before going back in. This method works great for ground hogs and most other pests.
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Birchwood Casey gun cleaner in an aerosol can works very well. It killed them instantly for me.
I kinda like Curvs idea though. Post video though. :D
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Originally posted by Curval
Find the nest, grab it, throw it to the ground and stomp on it.
Post results...with pics.
:aok
:lol No! Don't follow the alt-f4-style advice here!!!!
Call an exterminator & let them take the chance of being stung instead of you!!!!
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Airscrew are these hornets or wasps?
As mentioned above you want to get to them at dusk or sunrise and hose the whole colony down with your choice of knockdown spray then you want to destroy the nest.
I had an infestation of wood bees a few years ago and, after applying various poisons in the entrance of their nest with no result, I got stung by one of them. Down to the local organic nursery I go where I meet the very nice, loving, kind, woman who I would soon traumatize.
"I need something that kills bees"
"oh we don't have anything that kills them we have a very good bee man that will come move them for you"
"lady you don't understand I don't want them moved I want them dead ALL of them. Their baby bees all the way up to their queen I want them D-E-A-D. I want the rest of the bee world to think my house is the quadrant that the borg collective lives in"
And out I walk... I finally settled on gasoline and a match. Not the best choice I admit but I was angry and they were not in or on my house. Looking back I'm surprised I'm not on the Darwin Award list.
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
..."lady you don't understand I don't want them moved I want them dead ALL of them. Their baby bees all the way up to their queen I want them D-E-A-D. I want the rest of the bee world to think my house is the quadrant that the borg collective lives in"...
:rofl :aok :cry :D
borg collective :lol
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I've had good luck with Ortho Hornet and Wasp Spray fighting nests of yellow jackets in the front lawn nesting in old tree roots and a couple nests of wasps in the gutters, but never anything like hundreds of hornets like you mention.
Still, I'd think several cans of Ortho or comparable over several evenings when the critters mass might do the trick. Make sure you shake it well and it foams like shaving cream; I found not all cans were as consistent as they should have been.
I've also had good luck blowing wasp nests away with a high pressure stream of water from a regular hose. They don't seem to get as agitated because they probably think they're just in a rain storm.
You definitely need good water pressure and a nozzle that focuses the stream.
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A spray can of Gumout carb cleaner, works better than anything you can buy. Try it and you will be amazed. It will discolor plastic, and paint so be careful.
Best time to hit the nest is daylight. The colder the morning the better, and a heavy dew helps slow them down.
( Hates the little bastige hornets! ) :D
Frodo
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In the roof, oh man. Is this the first time or does it happen every year? We had bees around our house for years, last spring they remodeled the house and when pulling the old wood trim off there was a gigantic hive in there. Turned out our house is right in their migratory path. we got a guy to come out and take the hive and the bees.
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Texas has never had a shortage of winged stinging insects. 99 times out of 100 they will not sting you if you don't swat at them. I have been stung those 10 times out of a thousand though. :furious
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KO Blaster .
Used to clean small condensing coils, and you can buy it at grainger.
Don't get it in your eyes. It'll literally freeze them where they stand.
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Daylight or dusk is the best time and post the video after you start stomping on the nest. I would love to watch that one on youtube.
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OK, no video, but a couple of pictures. I made two quick passes with the Ortho Hornet/Wasp spray I had.... no nest, they're just on the side of the house. I think they are getting in the roof, maybe found a hole where the satellite cable comes in..
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/hornets1.jpg)
this is just one corner, I found another one on the back side of the house too...
I told the missus to video, she hit the wrong button. So you miss the part where I run like hell with hornets swarming above me...
I'll check it in the morning and see how many came back
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/hornets2.jpg)
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My God - those aren't insects. Those are pterodactyls.
Burn your house to the ground and save humanity before its too late.
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Are you sure those are wasp's or hornets? Looks like an Africanized honey bee swarm, in which case, buried under all those bugs is the queen, and they are looking for a new home.
For yellow jackets aka Hornets I do like the vacuum cleaner.
But the first thing is to dress for success.
Put on a pair of hard boots (not tennis shoes) Pull pants legs down over boots, ductape the seam so they can't crawl up your legs. Heavy shirt tucked into your jeans. Gloves, duct tape them onto the shirtsleeves, again for leak protection.
Finish up with hat, a hand towel around your throat, and mosquito headnet.
This year I had one get inside the netting that slipped through the Y of my shirt.
So wrap a towel around neck, and make sure headnet is pulled well down over it. No gaps = no stings quick, hasty or careless = pain.
I suspect in that location that Carb Cleaner, spray brake cleaner, or such would work just fine to knock them down. BTW consider a 10' extention for the vacumn, 1 1/2" pvc would be my first choice.
Once you have them IN the vacumn, spray some flying insect killer down the pipe with it still running. Then let the vacumn partially suck a plastic grocery bag down the pipe. Idea is you do NOT want them coming back out again. Turn it off, let it sit for a few hours, and LISTEN!
If they are dead, it will be quiet, if they are alive, they HUM.
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Ok those are ether Bald Face hornets, Yellow Jackets, or Red Wasp. Gas will work but like you did you will have to make a pass the they cant stand the smell of the gas plus its very toxic to them. get a large cup or a small pale put a little gasoline in it and hit them. Usually they wont even come back to the spot were you put the gas. or the other thing to do is wait till a very cool morning go out and get a C02 fire extinguisher and spray them like hell this will freeze them this is what my step uncle uses with his bee hives to kill African killer bees that wonder in. Let me know how it works
RED25
Oh ya and I still recommend stomping them and putting the video up LOL J/K
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We have a small flame thrower/torch for ours (our house is brick)
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Just call The Professional!!! :p
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/DelbertMcClintock.jpg)
Delbert McClintock, infestation management.
You could make ah motion picture out of this!!!
Cnidophobia: The Movie
:rofl :rofl :rofl
TIGERESS
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You sure they don't have a nest in the attic or wall?
Have there been UFO sightings in your area, because I'm not sure if those things are from this planet?
P.S. You're a braver man then I getting that close to those things.
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I'd just burn the house to the ground and call it a day :D
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Mmmmm. Hornets BAD! Fire GOOD!!
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I had a stupid encounter with bees once. After getting stung I tried to burn a bee’s nest, but didn’t have much fuel on hand. So I tossed a spray paint can on the fire expecting it to blow and make a big enough fireball to incinerate them all. The fire was dying, however, and the can wouldn’t get hot enough to explode. So, I pulled out my 22 and a hollow-point CCI Stinger round. From 50 feet I hit the can square and it burst into a nice fireball. Something stung me in the ankle, however. I looked down and my shoe, sock and leg were on fire and I had a nice gash high in my ankle. I patted out the fire on the leg and surveyed the damage; my leg, sock and shoe were splattered with paint and I had a cut worthy of stitches. Just behind me was half of the spray paint can. I wasn’t that surprised that half of an exploded can could fly that far and cut me. I was baffled, however, that it traveled so fast and so far on fire and that enough paint rode along to spatter me. The doctors and nurses were in stitches when I explained how I cut my ankle and set my leg and foot on fire with burning spray paint. They called in other staff members and had me retell the story.
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Scary photos, Airscrew, thanks. That's one of the most serious swarms I've ever seen. But I still think several cans of the Ortho Hornet and Wasp spray might solve the problem.
Reminds me of some other creative solutions. Had some wasp nests high under the eaves of my parents' little two-story house in Indiana. Threw some cherry bombs and TNT firecrackers up at them. Eventually drove them away.
Imagine lighting those firecrackers in your hand and trying to time their air bursts. Kids! Duh!
More sane solution was against some wasps in hollow cast iron clothesline poles in the back yard. Waited until sunset when most of them were in the nest. Lit a cherry bomb, shoved it in one end of the clothes pole, then held a brick against it.
BOOM! A cloud of wasps, most smoking or on fire, flew out the other end of the clothes pole like a cloud of shotgun pellets, then spiraled to earth in little trails of smoke. Glorious revenge for attacks while I was mowing the yard.
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brake cleaner is a great way to kill an afternoon.
2 cases of beer.
2-3 friends armed w/ multiple can's of brake cleanr.
wasp/hornet/bee nest
= great fun.
spent 'bout 4-5 hours at a buddies house killin' a hornets nest like that. after 'bout hour 3 we'd litterally killed hundreds of 'em, and could approach the nest and shoot 'em w/ the brake cleaner up close and personal.
I don't think any of us got stung.
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Always wait until dusk or dark when they have all returned to the nest to hit the hive.
other wise you end up with a large group of pissed off whatever hanging out outside the nest at the end of the day.
I come across all kinds of nests when working on peoples houses.
there are various sprays out that kill on contact and the residue will keep killing for days.
Watch where they are entering and exiting and spray the area. on nests like this one where its obviously inside the house Typically I start at a distance then move in close and flood the entire entrance thoroughly soaking it.
If you have access to the attic you can also set off a bug bomb and toss it up there for good measure.
I used this two pronged approach in my attic. glad I did as after I no longer saw activity I ripped off the piece of cracked outside trim where they were getting in and saw the nest was even beyond that. So I went up to look at from the inside where they were entering from the outside I had a Yellow Jacket nest 3 feet long and about 10" wide on one of the rafters.
About 4 years ago My wife was trimming some forsythias that we had along our property and came inside saying something had stung her and wanted me to finish up.
Since the forsythias were about 6 feet high I had one of my picks set up across two sawhorses so all I had to do was walk across with the trimmer.
in doing this I saw alot of weird looking bugs start swarming around from the other side.
So I jumped off really fast and backed away.
After they calmed down I got in closer and looked into the bushes. Sure enough there was a nest no smaller then a basketball on the other side and about two feet from the top .
so I figured something really stupid. Since I had gotten away with it once. all I had to do was run over the top real quick with the rake to get the loose clippings off.
I reasoned that since I had gotten away with it once. and I was going to be moving much faster with the rake then I was with the trimmer.
I could get away with it.
This part I did from he ground so I could see the nest.
UNFORTUNATELY it seemed they could see me as well this way.
As I saw a bunch fly out of the nest and to the other side just as before. One obviously spotted me as I saw it do a U-Turn and fly at me like a bullet.
I backed off and raised my hand to block it but missed, it landed and got tangled in my beard and stung me on the left cheek before I was able to rip it out and away.
Yellow jacket stings are much worse pain wise and last longer.
I got a good look at one of them and went inside and looked them up on the net.
Bald/white faced hornets.
recognizable by their white heads
Typically they nest in the upper trees and are actually beneficial as they are less aggressive as some of their more aggressive cousins and will attack and kill of any yellow jacked and wasps nests in the area.
BUT are occasionally known to make nests in bushes
while less aggressive. Which is a good thing as kids play in my year all the time. They will protect their nest if disturbed.
So since it was mid day .Knowing I couldn't spray the nest until dusk, and I was pissed about being stung.
I did the only logical thing.
I antagonized em By throwing rocks and firecrackers at the nest form a distance getting em all stirred up, Id go back inside for 20 then come back and do it again.
That night I soaked the nest and a week later cut it out.
scored some pretty good direct hits on it based On the large gashes in the hive.
Wish I'd had saved it.
I could have hung it on the tree in front of my house in plain sight as a sort of welcome sign LOL
BTW Yellow jackets are not hornets. They are considered wasps.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
So, I pulled out my 22 and a hollow-point CCI Stinger round. From 50 feet I hit the can square and it burst into a nice fireball.
Yea, whatever.
Eskimo did a "Serenity".
That is the perfect "fish tale" name for stuff like this.
;)
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Originally posted by Curval
Yea, whatever.
Eskimo did a "Serenity".
That is the perfect "fish tale" name for stuff like this.
;)
Just because I shook “hands” with one of the bees and they ended up stealing my apples doesn’t make this a fish tale!
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I didnt get them all but theres not as many as there used to be..:t
Red, I guess they are wasps, I always called them hornets. they are kinda of peculiar though. Some are red/brown but some of them have yellow eyes and small yellow bands around their legs. I gotta look them up and see what kind they are.
Iron, when I sprayed the second time, one of them flew right at my face, I almost broke my neck I turned my head so fast... then I went to the other end of the house and sprayed those and one fly at me and landed on my hand. A lot of flaying going on trying to get it off my thumb, he wouldnt let go, finally flicked it off...
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looked them up...
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/img350.jpg)
Common Name: Paper wasp
Scientific Name: Polistes sp.
Order: Hymenoptera
Description: Paper wasps are 3/4 to 1 inch long, slender, narrow-waisted wasps with smoky black wings that are folded lengthwise when at rest. Body coloration varies with species: Polistes exclamans is brown with yellow markings on the head, thorax and bands on the abdomen; Polistes carolina is overall reddish-brown.
Paper wasps should not be confused with yellowjackets (Vespula squamosa Drury) and baldfaced hornets (Dolichovespa maculata (Linnaeus)). Paper wasp nests are open and cells are not covered with a cap (in an envelope).
I wonder if the two mix... because it looks like I had both
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Airscrew,
Call in the pros. We had a large hornet nest in an outer wall. They got in through a tiny hole in an eave. We didn't know about them until they started showing up inside a room near the eave. The exterminator sprayed some kind of white powder around the outside opening. Apparently the powder sticks to them and they carry it back to the nest. After a week he came back and he removed a small piece of sheetrock and out dropped a bunch of dead ones. He kept removing sheetrock (with me watching from a safe distance until the whole nest was exposed. It was the full width between the studs and about 3 feet tall. They had pushed all of the insulation out of the way! I was so glad I didn't try opening that wall myself.
63tb
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A guy at work has the exact same problem. A hive of yellowjackets between his dining room wall and the exterior wall. He said they had eaten(?) the drywall and left just the paper backing. He called in an exterminator today, the charge was $75, but I'm not sure if that was just the service call charge or the total extermination cost.
Best advice is to call a pro.
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lol sorry Back home we have always called them red wasp they hurt like He!! when they hit ya. I think they hurt worse than any other kind of wasp out there or well in north America. Well have you got rid of them yet keep us updated
RED26:aok
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Always wait until dusk or dark when they have all returned to the nest to hit the hive.
Yellow jacket stings are much worse pain wise and last longer.
Better to wait until dawn, as it is cooler. Also the dew impedes their flying ability.
So true! The worst sting that I have encountered. Too damn many times! :O)
Frodo
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I got rid of most of them, only saw a few hanging around when I got home tonight, nothing like it was last week. I'm planning to wait until it gets cooler (like November) and then get a ladder and go around the house and see if there are any holes they could be using to get into the walls of the house. If so then treat them and the seal the holes. According to what I read once the weather cools they all die off and go away and vacate their nests and then they start all over again in the spring
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:rofl :rofl :t Vulcan... I wonder if I can claim it on my homeowner's policy
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Originally posted by Max
I'd just burn the house to the ground and call it a day :D
Looks like somebody took y'er advice.
Guy burns down house trying to kill wasps (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14250002/detail.html)
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Any place that sells lawn and garden equipment should also sell hornet traps. There is some kind of bait inside the trap, wasps, hornets and yellow jackets can all be trapped this way. The trap also kills them.
Last year we had lots of hornets in our area and lots of folks had to empty their traps because they got full so fast.