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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Reschke on September 29, 2007, 06:33:54 PM
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We had his 11th birthday party today and played at a local field called Paintball Quest (http://www.paintballquest.com). This was the first time that I have ever played and we had a blast. By the time we left the field there were probably 150 people strolling around and joining up in games. This is on a college football Saturday in Alabama when the top two teams are out of town. I can't imagine what it is like when baseball season is in and people don't have games to drive to or watch on t.v.
Overall I liked it and would definitely play it again.
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I'm heading over to Skirmish, PA in the Pocono Moutains. I went last year for my friends B-Day party and had a blast! Sometime I hope to go to EMR the castle too (I hear it's better than Skirmish!)
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Once your son is 16 google "airsoft" :) It blows paintball out of the water. Guns are full scale and work as closely to the real ones as possible. They shoot 6mm plastic bb's at 300-450ft/sec. The only unfortunate thing is that the bb's don't hurt as much as paintballs. I'm not sure about the States but in Canada you have to be 18 to own the guns and play, however, some places will let under-agers play at 16 if the parent is also playing.
Not trying to insult paintball, its a great sport. I'm just an airsoft nut :D
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Your son doing football this year?
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Once your son is 16 google "airsoft" :) It blows paintball out of the water. Guns are full scale and work as closely to the real ones as possible. They shoot 6mm plastic bb's at 300-450ft/sec. The only unfortunate thing is that the bb's don't hurt as much as paintballs. I'm not sure about the States but in Canada you have to be 18 to own the guns and play, however, some places will let under-agers play at 16 if the parent is also playing.
Not trying to insult paintball, its a great sport. I'm just an airsoft nut :D
I have two of them :D they're great for getting a squirrel out of the tree and making the dogs quit barking. :D
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I have a Tippmann Carbine 68. Most of your "wannabe pro players" chuckle and point. They chuckle until they approach me and see the 16" Dye Boomstick. They get pissed when they don't hear me even firing it, because of the modified Venturi bolt I have in it.
I used to run with a group of 16 guys that had our own 80 lb CO2 tank and would play on Private Land. We haven't played in 3 years. I miss it. Latrobe, you play often? Maybe next summer we can set something up near Dayton and meet in the middle. Even the Dayton folks could come and play.
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Proud owner of a Tippman Pro Carbine, Model 98, and a M5.
All 3 gathering dust.:D
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Originally posted by Reschke
I can't imagine what it is like when baseball season is in and people don't have games to drive to or watch on t.v.
:furious :mad: Why do people always pick on baseball??
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Latrobe, you play often?
I played my first time at some guys house who asked if i wanted to come along. I enjoyed it alot, then my friend invited me to his party and said it be at Skirmish. So, I've only played twice before, but even before that I was looking into paintballing.
<---has a VLTriton II :D
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
they're great for getting a squirrel out of the tree
Actually...the 12 gauge works well for this matter too...:D
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Originally posted by Latrobe
<---has a VLTriton II :D
Hey! I have a Trition 2 also.
But there is a Tippmann A5 on sale at the local store this week that I am going to get :D
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have a Tippmann Carbine 68. Most of your "wannabe pro players" chuckle and point. They chuckle until they approach me and see the 16" Dye Boomstick. They get pissed when they don't hear me even firing it, because of the modified Venturi bolt I have in it.
Can I see some pics of that thing? :eek:
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The pain is what made paintball great! To me using realistic looking guns wouldnt be what makes it fun. It would be the fear of getting hit. That to me makes realistic looking guns secondary to the emotion.
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What pain? Sure paintballs sting but they don't cause pain.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Your son doing football this year?
Yep he is still doing it and I am still helping coach. His team is 3-1 (lost in OT the other night 19-18) and he loves it and is thinking about not playing baseball this coming spring.
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My son already has had some airsoft guns but it isn't the same down in this part of the US. Not enough places to go and run around looking like a paramilitary organization......BUT like my dad said today when these kids walked out of the woods after "drilling for a paintball scenario". They just want to pretend playing Army instead of doing the real thing.
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Can I see some pics of that thing? :eek:
Sure, I'll post em up tomorrow. I played at 300 fps. Even at Hell Survivor's here in Pinckney, the ref's were laughing. The only thing you hear with a paintball in it, is the bolt hitting the back of the receiver. Past 20 feet, you hear nothing.
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I havent played since 1993.
A few coworkers here at the hospital have played non-stop since then. They want to organize a group time we can all play. I told them I would but I sold my Tippman SMG-60 and darnit, I just prefer an automatic :)
(That thing sold for big $$ on eBay when I put it for sale. A production company bought it, they use special ammo that creates the "sparks" you see in gun fights)
The Airsofts have some sort of paintball ammo, dont they? One of my friends bought an M-4 that looks like the real thing. Sweet gun.
I dunno, there's a real difference between being whacked by a .68 caliber paintball and a 7mm thing :t
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Can't say I enjoy airsoft as much as paintball. The only time I was actually fearing an airsoft gun was when my friend brought out an AR-15 and let 300 some BBs go in a matter of a minute. Lately I've been playing paintball A TON since my friend recently got a gun as well, just an open field so we put in $20-$30 for 4000 balls and $8 of air for each gun and we play 'til it gets dark. I have a completely stock Tippmann 98 custom, he has a tricked out Spyder.
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Once your son is 16 google "airsoft" :) It blows paintball out of the water. Guns are full scale and work as closely to the real ones as possible. They shoot 6mm plastic bb's at 300-450ft/sec. The only unfortunate thing is that the bb's don't hurt as much as paintballs. I'm not sure about the States but in Canada you have to be 18 to own the guns and play, however, some places will let under-agers play at 16 if the parent is also playing.
Not trying to insult paintball, its a great sport. I'm just an airsoft nut :D
Gryphons and anyone else who has these guns. I'd like to share a story.
One day while on patrol, the police department recieved several 911 calls of a male walking down a road with an AR-15. The guy was reported to be in full camo as well.
Several patrols responded to the area since it was near a school as well. By the way, this happened last spring. I was the first partol in the area and I nearly ran this kid over. I jumped out of my cruiser and had my weapon drawn at the kid's head. I ordered the kid to drop the weapon and to take steps back and then to the ground. Now the real hairy part was the kid didn't understand what was going on. (After all, he turned out to be only 16 and wasn't sure what he had done wrong.) From a cop's view, he was moving too damn slow following commands and wasn't keeping his hand away from the trigger. This toy gun DIDN'T have an orange tip. Not that would have changed anything. (More on this later.)
I secured this toy gun and handcuffed the kid (who was now shaking like a leaf!) At this point, my back up arrived. I had a chance to inspect this toy. Now if anyone has ever handled a real AR-15, We happen to carry the exact model in our cruisers, this thing was IDENTICAL to what most cops carry in Massachusetts. There is a removeable magazine, the dust cover, forward bolt assist, and the combat stock. I had never seen the Airsoft products and was amazed at how lucky this kid was. Not to pat myself on the back, but if this kid ran up against a rookie, the outcome could have been devastating!
Many street survival courses that I've seen show horror stories how criminals will paint their weapons to look like toys. Anything to have that split second advantage over a police officer. Thats where the orange tip or any other color of the weapon comes into play.
The kid wasn't charged but his toy gun was confiscated and his parents were spoken to. It turned out that his father bought the airsoft for him, not realizing the dangers.
Don't get me wrong, I think paintball and the airsoft guns are a great way for kids to have fun. I did it (paintball) and had a blast. I just think that its safer if the kids are explained the potential dangers and Airsoft should pull those guns that look like the real thing!
Please everyone, be careful out there!!!!!
Obie:aok
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sure, I'll post em up tomorrow. I played at 300 fps. Even at Hell Survivor's here in Pinckney, the ref's were laughing. The only thing you hear with a paintball in it, is the bolt hitting the back of the receiver. Past 20 feet, you hear nothing.
Can't wait to see it!
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Originally posted by Obie303
Gryphons and anyone else who has these guns. I'd like to share a story.
One day while on patrol, the police department recieved several 911 calls of a male walking down a road with an AR-15. The guy was reported to be in full camo as well.
Several patrols responded to the area since it was near a school as well. By the way, this happened last spring. I was the first partol in the area and I nearly ran this kid over. I jumped out of my cruiser and had my weapon drawn at the kid's head. I ordered the kid to drop the weapon and to take steps back and then to the ground. Now the real hairy part was the kid didn't understand what was going on. (After all, he turned out to be only 16 and wasn't sure what he had done wrong.) From a cop's view, he was moving too damn slow following commands and wasn't keeping his hand away from the trigger. This toy gun DIDN'T have an orange tip. Not that would have changed anything. (More on this later.)
I secured this toy gun and handcuffed the kid (who was now shaking like a leaf!) At this point, my back up arrived. I had a chance to inspect this toy. Now if anyone has ever handled a real AR-15, We happen to carry the exact model in our cruisers, this thing was IDENTICAL to what most cops carry in Massachusetts. There is a removeable magazine, the dust cover, forward bolt assist, and the combat stock. I had never seen the Airsoft products and was amazed at how lucky this kid was. Not to pat myself on the back, but if this kid ran up against a rookie, the outcome could have been devastating!
Many street survival courses that I've seen show horror stories how criminals will paint their weapons to look like toys. Anything to have that split second advantage over a police officer. Thats where the orange tip or any other color of the weapon comes into play.
The kid wasn't charged but his toy gun was confiscated and his parents were spoken to. It turned out that his father bought the airsoft for him, not realizing the dangers.
Don't get me wrong, I think paintball and the airsoft guns are a great way for kids to have fun. I did it (paintball) and had a blast. I just think that its safer if the kids are explained the potential dangers and Airsoft should pull those guns that look like the real thing!
Please everyone, be careful out there!!!!!
Obie:aok
What dangers? That some drama queen in uniform will murder you for carrying around a toy? So what? What have you descended to as a human that you must assume they are a mass murder who just hasn't gotten around to inflicting your worst case scenario on the world? Of course they must be going to murder the whole town, they just needed to buy a slurpy at the 7/11 first. Quick! call the FBI! No need to simply drive on by and say hi to the poor kid just to make sure. WTG officer, you saved the world, heres your cookie.
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Here is my 10 year old Tippmann that has only had 1 problem ever. The original copper tubing leaked and I went with a braided hose.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/Marker001.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/Marker002.jpg)
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.trpaintball.com/images/gallery14/g14-37.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.trpaintball.com/gallery14.htm&h=263&w=350&sz=30&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=S_GK5F6yCEuW7M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dww2%2Bammo%2Btrucks%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1B3GGGL_enUS238US238%26sa%3DG
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q12/mellado/luftpara1a.jpg)
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Here is my 10 year old Tippmann that has only had 1 problem ever. The original copper tubing leaked and I went with a braided hose.
What size is that barrel?
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Originally posted by SpikesX
What size is that barrel?
lol, I severly pissed the wife off when I bought the barrel. It is a 16" Ceramic Boomstick, I paid about $170 back in 1999 for it. That was more than I bought the marker for. Best upgrade though. The Tippmann barrel was 12", loud and largely inaccurate.
I have plowed through saplings to evade with this marker and it never failed to function. Even when the copper tubing leaked, I could still get pressure to get to 300fps. I never needed an expansion chamber for it. I played in 20 degree weather, to 100 degree days here in Michigan and the 20oz CO2 was all I ever needed. Nitrogen was a consideration, but our group lost interest.
One of the ref's at Hell Survivor's was laughing his prettythang off because I was in a thicket outside of an "urban setup" they have. This team killed everyone but me, and I got the last two. The ref was about 50 feet from me, basically telling these two "he's near me guys".
As I said, this "POS" to most, is the farthest from it when used. I don't like Auto's, all I've ever seen them accomplish is wasting paint. We had a Marine fresh out of Parris Island in our group, he would not rush our "attack the ridge". We lost our first guy defending the ridge 45 minutes after we started. We taunted them by telling them "to get more paint and come back". My buddy got hit and was Army 82-90 and walk past this kid cowering and got pissed. "Come on, let's attack the ridge!" I fell about 1/2 hour later and there were still 4 guys unscathed defending the ridge. We still meet up and swap stories. This usually gets mentioned by others.
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Ahh...good story...It is kind of sad when the ref has to tell the other team where the guy is :)
I have a 20" sniper barrel getting shipped as we speak :)
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Y'all be careful! And wear goggles so you don't put your eye out!:)
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As it happens, I get what Obie is on about.....here in the UK, there have been near shootings due to the realistic nature of the airsoft range.......think there's a law been passed so they are not made to look like the real thing.......(which is both a good thing and a bad thing - good as people playing airsoft arent in danger, bad as it devalues the game experience (imo)). There has even been a person shot for carrying a table leg in a plastic bag and swinging round to face a police officer carrying a mp5.........so just goes to show even the simplest of things can catch you out...........
Personally I love paintball........shame i'm such a bad loser..lol.....
Wurzel
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I dont beleive that for a minute. Beetle said there are no guns in the UK and life there is a social Utopia :)
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lmao....damn you Lepaul......coffee, nose and keyboards do NOT mix.........clean up in aisle 3....
:aok
Wurzel
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Originally posted by texasmom
Y'all be careful! And wear goggles so you don't put your eye out!:)
What? *Splat* :lol
Boy today was fun, got shot over 70 times (no headshots :D ). Probly three funiest things that happened was 1) My friend popped up from behind his cover and fell right back down and had a big splatter mark of his mask. 2) was at a map wil lots of little hills, we were getting ambushed, I ran back for cover but a few guys were in my way, yelled "Watch out!", tripped over one of the hills and fell flat on my face, goggles flying off, gun flying through the air :lol . 3) I knew I was going to get out on one of the battles because we were surrounded, so I jumped out of my cover, shooting like a mad man screaming "LEROY JENKINS!!!" :rofl
I plan to go to EMR or Battle of Berlin next month. :)
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Originally posted by Latrobe
What? *Splat* :lol
Boy today was fun, got shot over 70 times (no headshots :D ). Probly three funiest things that happened was 1) My friend popped up from behind his cover and fell right back down and had a big splatter mark of his mask. 2) was at a map wil lots of little hills, we were getting ambushed, I ran back for cover but a few guys were in my way, yelled "Watch out!", tripped over one of the hills and fell flat on my face, goggles flying off, gun flying through the air :lol . 3) I knew I was going to get out on one of the battles because we were surrounded, so I jumped out of my cover, shooting like a mad man screaming "LEROY JENKINS!!!" :rofl
I plan to go to EMR or Battle of Berlin next month. :)
Who the hell is Leroy ****ing Jenkins?
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I knew I was going to get out on one of the battles because we were surrounded, so I jumped out of my cover, shooting like a mad man screaming "LEROY JENKINS!!!" :rofl
LOL!:D
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Obie, aren't red tips on airsoft guns mandatory in the U.S? I see what your saying and this is exactly the reason you have to be 18 in Canada to own the guns. All the people I play with treat the guns as if they were real (since most you can't tell unless you look down the barrel or get with-in 5 ft), we all keep our guns in locked gun cases and we NEVER use them in public. It's true that you can get clear plastic airsoft guns but you will be laughed off the field if you show up with one. We are all about realism.
Rabbidrabbit, I believe Obie took all the right precautions, don't forget the weapon the kid had was probably illegal in the U.S due to lack of a red tip and looked almost 100% real. If I walked down the street as that kid had done I would expect to be shot by a cop and to be honest I would be a little disturbed if no one had called the police.
But don't worry rabbit your lack of respect for police officers didn't show through at all :rolleyes:
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Latrobe u ever get tagged in the left nut with one at close range? :)
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Obie, aren't red tips on airsoft guns mandatory in the U.S? I see what your saying and this is exactly the reason you have to be 18 in Canada to own the guns. All the people I play with treat the guns as if they were real (since most you can't tell unless you look down the barrel or get with-in 5 ft), we all keep our guns in locked gun cases and we NEVER use them in public. It's true that you can get clear plastic airsoft guns but you will be laughed off the field if you show up with one. We are all about realism.
Rabbidrabbit, I believe Obie took all the right precautions, don't forget the weapon the kid had was probably illegal in the U.S due to lack of a red tip and looked almost 100% real. If I walked down the street as that kid had done I would expect to be shot by a cop and to be honest I would be a little disturbed if no one had called the police.
But don't worry rabbit your lack of respect for police officers didn't show through at all :rolleyes:
Yes, these guns are sold with the orange tip. The kid took it off to make it look more "real". In the U.S. you can't buy them unless you are 18. No permit is required. I don't blame the kid in this case. It was the parent's responsibility to educate their son about proper firearms safety. He did get the gun back after he took a course. (free from the department)
As far as rabbit's comment, I'm used to dealing with ignorant people. There's no way a kid could get a hold of a real gun and shoot somebody.
Obie
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Latrobe u ever get tagged in the left nut with one at close range? :)
Nope and I prey it never happens :) :lol
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Originally posted by Reschke
Yep he is still doing it and I am still helping coach. His team is 3-1 (lost in OT the other night 19-18) and he loves it and is thinking about not playing baseball this coming spring.
Cool! Glad to hear about your awesome season!
Gordon's team was 4-0 going into yesterdays game against their nemisis who was also 4-0. We came out on top in OT, 12-6! We're undefeated! He's a starting Left guard on offensive and starting LB on Defense.
We'll face this team in the championship game no doubt. no love lost between our team and Valley Wolfpack. Reminds me of the rivalry between Oakland and KC! :eek:
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I own 80 acres of land and I have a perfect area for paintballing (all natural).
I invited a few friends up Sunday afternoon and we got a good 4 v 4 going :)
In the center of the "park" I have a tree fort type deal...if you get to it (without dying, of course) you pretty much rule the park...but the hard part is getting up the 12 foot ladder and not getting shot :eek: )
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Leroy Jenkins ! LMAO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Once your son is 16 google "airsoft" :) It blows paintball out of the water. Guns are full scale and work as closely to the real ones as possible. They shoot 6mm plastic bb's at 300-450ft/sec. The only unfortunate thing is that the bb's don't hurt as much as paintballs. I'm not sure about the States but in Canada you have to be 18 to own the guns and play, however, some places will let under-agers play at 16 if the parent is also playing.
Not trying to insult paintball, its a great sport. I'm just an airsoft nut :D
Whatcha got?
Ive got an upgraded TM AK47 and a TM M1911A1 GBB. I just ordered an Element receiver for my AK, 400 dollars from now It'll be an AKM.
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1) Airsoft is paintball without testicles. Yes, I've played & owned both. Neither are realistic. Airsoft players are fairies. The only thing "real" is how the gun looks... and that's it.
2) Don't go to Skirmish. Go to EMR. you will not regret it
3) A lot of fields don't carry co2 anymore. Air tank prices have fallen. Buy one.
4) Guns should look like race-cars.
5) If somebody plays paintball and loves to "snipe". Ignore them. They're idiots.
6) If your goggles come off, go into the fetal position and cover your face. Eyeballs are not easy to repair. Vision is a good thing.
7) Your barrel is completely irrelevant if your paint does not fit the ID. Buy a Python barrel adapter kit or splurge and get a Smart Parts Freak system. You will never regret it.
8) "Automatic" is a load of crap. Most insurance regulations limit you to 9-12bps for any type of select-fire mode. Current semi-auto guns can easily exceed 20bps. Stay in semi, setup your gun correctly to ride the trigger bounce, and practice practice practice.
9) Bunker any little kid you see and shoot them in the neck.
10) Bunker any old person you see and shoot them in the neck.
anybody else need some paintball/bb shooting wisdom?
:aok
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Originally posted by Obie303
As far as rabbit's comment, I'm used to dealing with ignorant people. There's no way a kid could get a hold of a real gun and shoot somebody.
Obie
There were a dozen different ways you could have handled the matter but chose one of the most dramatic and high risk ones causing undue and unnecessary trouble for all. I'm not saying you are a bad guy or a thug like m36. I'm saying you could have handled the matter more rationally to the good of all including yourself.
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Originally posted by Obie303
There's no way a kid could get a hold of a real gun and shoot somebody.
Obie
I can get a BB gun, .22, 12 gauge, 10 gauge, 270, and others right now if I wanted...
Granted I do have my hunter safety course...
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Orinally posted by Motherland
Whatcha got?
Ive got an upgraded TM AK47 and a TM M1911A1 GBB. I just ordered an Element receiver for my AK, 400 dollars from now It'll be an AKM
Cool, sometimes these sports are ridiculously expensive :)
I've got a Classic Army G36C (my pride and joy, I love the weight), a KWA Glock 17, I like the look of the TM1911 but I've always loved Glocks. I also have an M4A1 by Well (made in China I think) it's not bad but is nothing special, and a UTG M24. I had a CF sniper take it out for a game this year and he was throughly impressed with it.
Origanally posted by Indy007
8) "Automatic" is a load of crap. Most insurance regulations limit you to 9-12bps for any type of select-fire mode. Current semi-auto guns can easily exceed 20bps.
Think I'm going to have to call shenanigans on that one. I doubt you could shoot 20bps. Simply not possible to pull trigger 20 times a second. But enjoy your fantasy world.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Think I'm going to have to call shenanigans on that one. I doubt you could shoot 20bps. Simply not possible to pull trigger 20 times a second. But enjoy your fantasy world.
:rolleyes:
You don't understand how the circuit board works. It's just a micro-switch. There's pushbutton switches, photocell switches, and a couple other times. When you slap a trigger (not pull & hold, just slap your finger past it), it actually bounces on that micro-switch a number of times. Depending on how your software is setup, it'll read each of those bounces as an individual trigger pull. It's technically true because the trigger is depressing the switch that many times. There's lots of rules regarding this stuff and rules vary from league to league (mainly by insurance provider).
With a gun tuned to NOT read any bounces, I've peaked at 13bps, and I'm relatively slow compared to some friends. The trigger pull is only 1-3mm, nothing like a real or airsoft gun.
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Originally posted by indy007
You don't understand how the circuit board works. It's just a micro-switch. There's pushbutton switches, photocell switches, and a couple other times. When you slap a trigger (not pull & hold, just slap your finger past it), it actually bounces on that micro-switch a number of times. Depending on how your software is setup, it'll read each of those bounces as an individual trigger pull. It's technically true because the trigger is depressing the switch that many times
Ah, my bad, I wasn't familiar with that system, sounds interesting tho. I still say 20bps is a little fast for regular semi-auto, but I've broken my trigger finger a few times so I'm probably quite a bit slower than most.
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Ive been playing Paintball seriously for about a year now, and its without a doubt the funnest sport ive ever participated in..
it gets a little expensive when you play at the tournament level, but there is nothing I would rather be doing.
we have our own NPPL field now, some sponsorship to offset costs and whatnot, so it isnt too bad..
only thing I regret is not fining the sport sooner, I started at 26, wish it would have been 16.
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(http://img2.putfile.com/main/9/27221113791.jpg)
pic from TPL event in houston, we took 3rd and are second over all for the season at this point :aok
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Originally posted by Gryphons
Ah, my bad, I wasn't familiar with that system, sounds interesting tho. I still say 20bps is a little fast for regular semi-auto, but I've broken my trigger finger a few times so I'm probably quite a bit slower than most.
you actually use 2 fingers, your middle and index, about the fastest a person can shoot a LEGAL marker is about 15, you can get in to the 20s with some trigger bounce but that will get your yelled at by a ref in rec play or yanked from the field in a tournament.
the marker Im currently using can exceed 30 a sec assuming the loader can keep up. but anything above 15 is more or less strictly for bragging rights.
depending on what league you play in there are different settings that are legal, such as ramping etc etc..
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wtg snubby!
stop by a viper scenario some time. get to bunker some little kids & old people with me, and at least 5 hours of night play. good stuff.
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Nice pic Snubby :)
I'm not a big tournament guy. I prefer long games 12-24 hrs, sleeping and eating in the field, using tracer bb's at night (they can give away your position, but are just too dam cool) and trying to make it as real as possible.
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Rabbid, Please empty your PM box.
Obie
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Originally posted by Gryphons
I'm not a big tournament guy. I prefer long games 12-24 hrs, sleeping and eating in the field, using tracer bb's at night (they can give away your position, but are just too dam cool) and trying to make it as real as possible.
We had a night game before...was much fun...pitch black and no light...kinda like those night missions with the SEALs. :aok
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Originally posted by Regular
Leroy Jenkins ! LMAO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
Wow, that's awesome. How is it that I've never seen this?
I'm going to have to use that at trial!
-Sik
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Originally posted by Obie303
Gryphons and anyone else who has these guns. I'd like to share a story.
One day while on patrol, the police department recieved several 911 calls of a male walking down a road with an AR-15. The guy was reported to be in full camo as well.
Several patrols responded to the area since it was near a school as well. By the way, this happened last spring. I was the first partol in the area and I nearly ran this kid over. I jumped out of my cruiser and had my weapon drawn at the kid's head. I ordered the kid to drop the weapon and to take steps back and then to the ground. Now the real hairy part was the kid didn't understand what was going on. (After all, he turned out to be only 16 and wasn't sure what he had done wrong.) From a cop's view, he was moving too damn slow following commands and wasn't keeping his hand away from the trigger. This toy gun DIDN'T have an orange tip. Not that would have changed anything. (More on this later.)
I secured this toy gun and handcuffed the kid (who was now shaking like a leaf!) At this point, my back up arrived. I had a chance to inspect this toy. Now if anyone has ever handled a real AR-15, We happen to carry the exact model in our cruisers, this thing was IDENTICAL to what most cops carry in Massachusetts. There is a removeable magazine, the dust cover, forward bolt assist, and the combat stock. I had never seen the Airsoft products and was amazed at how lucky this kid was. Not to pat myself on the back, but if this kid ran up against a rookie, the outcome could have been devastating!
Many street survival courses that I've seen show horror stories how criminals will paint their weapons to look like toys. Anything to have that split second advantage over a police officer. Thats where the orange tip or any other color of the weapon comes into play.
The kid wasn't charged but his toy gun was confiscated and his parents were spoken to. It turned out that his father bought the airsoft for him, not realizing the dangers.
Don't get me wrong, I think paintball and the airsoft guns are a great way for kids to have fun. I did it (paintball) and had a blast. I just think that its safer if the kids are explained the potential dangers and Airsoft should pull those guns that look like the real thing!
Please everyone, be careful out there!!!!!
Obie:aok
Obie,
When my kid and the neighborhood kids got into airsofting a few years back I took the following precautions. #1 I called the local PD and informed them that about 10 kids in my neighborhood were into it and would either be in my yard or on the public land a few blocks over #2 I instructed the kids that if they weren't in my yard the weapons were to be carried in bags or backpacks until they got to the public lands (the local kids actually listen to me God knows why), #3 if a police car ever stopped around them they were to lay the weapons on the ground and take two steps back from them with their hands clearly visible.
The only time they had an officer question them he wound up shooting my kids weapon and came by to ask me where he could get one.
A little common sense and parenting goes a long way.
Personally I do not fault you for your response initially. What would you have done had the kid done what I've instructed mine to do?
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Dicho, I'm glad to see the kids in your neighborhood have that kind of respect for you! I applaude you for taking an interest in your kids hobbies. If I had come across a kid as you described; paintball (or airsoft rifle) in a bag. I wouldn't have asked him to put his bag down. I would consider that "secured". I probably wouldn't have gotten the 911 calls either. Like I said before, I'm not a tyrant. I was a kid too!
Over the weekend in Revere Massachusetts. A 17 year old kid shot & killed a cop.
I just want to reiterate, I DON'T condone paintball or the airsoft guns. I think they are great. I remember playing all over the east coast when all the paintball guns were pistols that you hald to push a button to shoot. 10 shots then you had to reload. That was paintball. The game has gone from that to who can paint a house in the shortest time. I have about 4 paintball guns still. But to the players today, they are in the category of antiques. It would be like going to Iraq with a flintlock.
Have fun and be careful. And to quote a very wise man......
A little common sense and parenting goes a long way.
Obie
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This is my old paintball gun
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s162/spikesx/IMG_5101.jpg)
The reason it still has the factory barrel on is because my new 20" one did not come in yet.
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:lol
Spikes I have the same exact gun, only mine does have that kinda barrel. It's all blue baby! :aok
I'm thinking about going out and buying a Tippmann, my uncle (whos a Paintball Nut) says it's a lot cheaper to buy upgrades for Tippmanns.
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Yes...I am about to purchase a Tippmann A5 with a 16" Barrel.
It is a great deal also.
I've had this one for a year or so and need to upgrade.
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My oldest has all that stuff. We don't take him to the courses though. I suppose TxDad should now & again. He has his own (stationary) targets. That's probably not as fun as shooting someone else though.
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Originally posted by texasmom
My oldest has all that stuff. We don't take him to the courses though. I suppose TxDad should now & again. He has his own (stationary) targets. That's probably not as fun as shooting someone else though.
Not at all mom...not at all :D
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Stationary target don't shoot back :D .
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I do the air soft thing guys more real kinda but you hit each other with 6mm BB's they have paint too but there working out the bugs on the paint rounds they are busting in the chambers of the weapons because the round isn't heavy enough to take the hit of air. But even with with regular plastic BB's it hurts like HE!!
RED26:aok
this place is high but the weapons are the best (http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Home)
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Dunno how fast you're playing red but being shot at point blank was on par or less severe than a needle stick. Different pain tolerances as well.
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Originally posted by nirvana
Dunno how fast you're playing red but being shot at point blank was on par or less severe than a needle stick. Different pain tolerances as well.
This depends MUCH on the quality of the gun. Something from a retail store will usually shoot in the 150-220 FPS range (no matter what it says on the box :aok ), whereas a higher quality gun like a Tokyo Marui, a Classic Army, etc., will shoot 280-330 FPS stock. Normally upgraded automatics shoot in the 350-420 FPS range. BB weight matters too. A .12g bb isnt going to hurt as much as a .25g bb (momentum).
You guys want some real pr0n?
My Tokyo Marui AK47.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/100_3711.jpg)
My stamped-style receiver still hasnt arrived :cry
The place red linked to was Redwolf airsoft. They have pretty good prices and awesome selection. But, like most of the airsoft world, they are located in Hong Kong. Airsoft is huge in Hong Kong and Japan. In the U.S., Ive had good experiences with AirsoftNorthWest (http://www.airsoftnw.com) and Trinity Airsoft (http://www.trinityairsoft.com). Good prices, products, and service.
Originally posted by red26
I do the air soft thing guys more real kinda but you hit each other with 6mm BB's they have paint too but there working out the bugs on the paint rounds they are busting in the chambers of the weapons because the round isn't heavy enough to take the hit of air.
Paint bb's suck on many levels. One, they break. This is not because of any 'burst of air', but quite simply because the firing mechanisms and magazines of airsoft guns are a lot more rough on the ammunition than hoppers. Second, they suck. They're inconsistent, light (never seen em any heavier than .12), and they've got casting nipples, which are horrid in barrels with .1mm of tolerance or less (bb's are 5.98 milimeters, Marui stock barrels are 5.08mm's, and tightbore barrels are 6.04-6.01mm's). Lastly, and most importantly, they're filled with liquid. This completely kills any hope for accuracy you can ever have.