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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Austox on September 29, 2007, 07:04:17 PM
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me and my bro want to fight each other in 8 player on 2 different computers in our house at the same time on the LAN play mode, but it wont work. The room shows up, but it wont let you get in.
Does amyone know why?
im not even realy sure what LAN play is so that might be the problem.
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Is there a message when you don't get in?
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i havent tried in a while but i think u just double click and nothing happens.
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Originally posted by Austox
me and my bro want to fight each other in 8 player on 2 different computers in our house at the same time on the LAN play mode, but it wont work. The room shows up, but it wont let you get in.
Does amyone know why?
im not even realy sure what LAN play is so that might be the problem.
LAN means "Local Area Network". Basically anyone around your area can play you.
The problem with your brother not being able to get in to your server has something to do with a firewall or the ports that are open on your router. I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how to fix it because I also have the same problem.
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local area network means just that, all computers have to be on the same network.
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anyone know how 2 fix it???
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Originally posted by Austox
anyone know how 2 fix it???
I don't
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I'd post this in Tech support
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Just tried it - I had no problems.
On one PC you select to be the LAN host - on the other machine you select to join the LAN game.
So - if both your PC's live in the same subnet, you should be good to go.
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I know but it doesnt work
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because of your firewall blocking it or your current router ports.
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is there a way to fix that???
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Try getting a Cat-5 Ethernet cord and hard wire connect the two computers together? :confused:
(hope im correct on this)
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Only if its a cross cable - and you then have to enter an IP address and subnet mask on both machines.
for example
PC1:
IP: 192.168.1.100
MASK: 255.255.255.0
PC2:
IP: 192.168.1.101
MASK: 255.255.255.0
If you have an router with switchports you should be able to use that instead - with default config PC's will be in the same subnet.
Windows Firewall should not be an issue.
Try from a DOS prompt if you can ping from one PC to the other (example with above numbers):
(from PC1): ping 192.168.1.101
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I sponsor games in my area on a lan connection, the problem your having is do to your virus scan. turn off your virus scan and firewall, and you will be able to connect.
If this doesn't work let me know there are a few other things.
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I was having this same issue this weekend at my house.
1) are you certain you have connectivity between the 2 comps? i.e. can you shar files across the network or map drives.
2) have you tried this with any other games and had success?
for me, i play AOE3 or BFME2 with all pcs on my lan frequently so i know it was not a port or firewall issue.
3) are you on the same game versions? this was the solution for me. I had downloaded the copy on one pc many moons before I tried this, so my other 2 pcs were on the same patch version and my host comp was not.
if you answer yes to all 3, you need to check the firewall config to see if certain exe files are blocked. since you are not going outside your LAN (should be within your house if hardwired or possibly farther if wireless) it should not require any port forwarding.
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I am try to set up a host server for the game in 8 player so I can still play 8 player with ppl that are overseas and what not. unfortunately we don't have a hosting option for that capacity. I would love to see AH add on; in trade for assistance with development and debuging. I use a direct connect feature with ysflight; but that is open GL, and open source. I think that AH could continue to have 8 player or a direct connect feature, allowing the players to be responsible for the game problems and host to be responsible for virus control as it wouldn't be on AH servers.
To get to the point. I think it is possible to use the LAN in this capacity having other players off the network connect to the 2nd pc on the system and the administrator host the room. any thoughts?
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8-Player LAN mode works splendidly. Here are a few things that help:
-- Make sure each PC can fly AH offline. Configure all of your controls, sounds, video, framerate optimization, etc. before messing with LAN stuff.
-- Make sure all of the PCs are using EXACTLY the same version of Aces High. It doesn't matter whether you're all using AH1 (Version 1.11patch4 is popular) or AH2 (current version).
-- Make sure all computers are on the same IP subnet (usually 192.168.0.x or 192.168.1.x)
-- Verify that all of the computers can "ping" each other. "Tracert" should show just one "hop" from any of these computers to any other (all on same subnet). When everything is local like this, pingtimes should be less than 5 ms. Usually they'll be less than 2 ms.
-- If something unusual is wrong with your "Multicast" routing, you won't see the AH hoster. This is unusual, and most people don't have to worry about it, but it can be an issue under LINUX with DirextX emulation. I've never had a problem with this under Windoze XP. If you want to experiment with this, make sure the "route PRINT" command shows a line that says 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 followed by your own IP address twice, followed by a small integer under "Metric".
-- If something is unusual with your "Localhost" definition, you may see the AH hoster but you won't be able to join his arena. This is unusual, and most people don't have to worry about it, but it can be an issue under LINUX with DirectX emulation. I've never had a problem with this under Windoze XP. If you want to experiment with this, you might edit your WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file to change the "localhost" entry from 127.0.0.1 to your actual IP address. (Save a backup of this file before changing it, and restore it if this doesn't help.)
-- If one computer is MUCH faster than another, it can sometimes be difficult for the slower computer to see the XP host. Sometimes it helps to exit AH, start over, and try again.
-- You should have no hardware firewall between participating computers. This means no PAIRS of NAT routers (it's OK if all participants are plugged into the SAME single NAT router's Ethernet connectors, because it isn't really routing in that case, just sharing Ethernet thru a hub or switch. It's also OK if everybody is accessing through the same wireless LAN).
-- If you are one of the miserable unfortunates that are running a software firewall, you'll either have to disable it or configure it to allow access for aceshigh.exe.
Once you take all of these steps you'll find that 8-player LAN mode works splendidly. AH Vox works as advertised, and warps/lag pretty much disappear. You can host more than one arena simultneously on a LAN too, so if more than 8 people show up at your LAN party, just designate 2 hosters and let each entertain as many as 7 guests. This is a great way to recruit young people into the hobby!
Regards,
-Peabody-
Learn about ping, traceroute, and network troubleshooting here:
http://www.askmisterwizard.com/Netw/NetworkTroubleshooting.htm
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Slider0 wrote:
"To get to the point. I think it is possible to use the LAN in this capacity having other players off the network connect to the 2nd pc on the system and the administrator host the room. any thoughts?"
It is possible to arrange a free 8-player "LAN Party" over the Internet, but you need to use a layer 2 VPN to do it, and HiTechCreations can't help you coordinate, police, or recruit for it.
The best tool for this is "Hamachi". Google it....
-Peabody-