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Title: flying in gv's
Post by: roadking on September 30, 2007, 11:52:12 AM
would be good to be able to fly in goon with veh, when you land it turns into a m-16 or jeep
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Post by: Devonai on September 30, 2007, 11:54:06 AM
Good idea except we'd have to send some C-130s or C-5s back in time!
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Post by: Neubob on September 30, 2007, 01:19:15 PM
Roadking--who were you before you got banned? Or is your other identity still an active member?
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Post by: pope14 on September 30, 2007, 07:34:52 PM
maby not a goon but a me 323 could do it it could hold about 12 tons
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Post by: NHawk on October 01, 2007, 07:48:15 AM
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Originally posted by Devonai
Good idea except we'd have to send some C-130s or C-5s back in time!
As a supply plane, the C-47 could carry up to 6,000 pounds of cargo. It could also hold a fully assembled jeep or a 37 mm cannon. As a troop transport, it carried 28 soldiers in full combat gear. As a medical airlift plane, it could accommodate 14 stretcher patients and three nurses.
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Post by: Devonai on October 01, 2007, 10:37:12 AM
Wow, I've been inside the genuine article and it sure didn't look like you could cram a Jeep in there.  I assume there must have been some modifications to the fuselage for that role?
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Post by: Latrobe on October 01, 2007, 10:45:25 AM
If we had the gliders to tow behind the goons then we could stick a jeep in there. I'm sure I'm wrong when I say this but I think you could put 2 jeeps in a glider.
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Post by: titanic3 on October 01, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
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Originally posted by Devonai
Wow, I've been inside the genuine article and it sure didn't look like you could cram a Jeep in there.  I assume there must have been some modifications to the fuselage for that role?


there is one that i know they MUST do. take out the seats or if they were fold-able. then again... a Me-323 might be the funnest ride in Aces high if we get it. later version had 6x 20mm cannons and i think 2 or 3 13mm Mgs?

wouldn't it be great to fly into a furball with that :p
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Post by: MachFly on October 01, 2007, 04:40:30 PM
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Originally posted by pope14
maby not a goon but a me 323 could do it it could hold about 12 tons


yea that would be good, at least an me 321
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Post by: Solar10 on October 01, 2007, 04:43:01 PM
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Originally posted by NHawk
... and three nurses.


Yes we need nurses... NOW!  :)
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Post by: Denholm on October 01, 2007, 05:03:30 PM
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Originally posted by titanic3
...a Me-323 might be the most fun ride in Aces High...

Fixed.

$2 service fee.
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Post by: roadking on October 01, 2007, 05:47:58 PM
I was unaware of the load restrictions with the goon, but it would be nice to fly gv's into a area. bob, no shadow account with me and have never been booted
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Post by: Bino on October 04, 2007, 09:43:16 PM
When I first saw the subject of this thread, I thought it was a request for flying GVs, as in "Chitty-chitty-bang-bang" or that Harry Potter film with the airborne Anglia.  Sorry.  :)

Several sources list a Jeep as one of the things a C-47 could carry in RL.  Might be worth a try in AH.
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Post by: clerick on October 05, 2007, 01:59:27 AM
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Originally posted by NHawk
...and three nurses.


I like that part
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Post by: NHawk on October 05, 2007, 05:27:13 AM
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Originally posted by Devonai
Wow, I've been inside the genuine article and it sure didn't look like you could cram a Jeep in there.  I assume there must have been some modifications to the fuselage for that role?
You could have been in one of the original releases of the C-47 (The C47A we have here or more appropriately the C-53 Skytrooper which only had a single jump door) or quite possibly a DC-3 masquerading as a C-47. Or even a DC-2 which to the untrained eye looks very much like a C-47/DC-3.

The most produced version of the C-47 had a double cargo door in the rear left side of the fuselage, with a passenger door nested inside the right half of the cargo door. In a sense, the cargo doors were the aircraft's worst feature. They worked as specified, but since the C-47 was originally designed as a commercial transport, it was not optimized for loading cargo as an aircraft with nose or tail doors would have been. Getting large cargo in and out of a C-47 was time-consuming and frustrating; a jeep could be driven up a ramp into the aircraft, but it had to be manhandled around to fit inside the fuselage.

I would imagine it's because of this that I can only recall seeing one photo of a jeep being offloaded from a C-47.
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Post by: Hornet33 on October 05, 2007, 09:45:20 AM
Decent pic of the cargo doors on the C-47 here. No way an M-16 would fit in there.

(http://www.vaq136.com/edenprairie2/skytrain-007b.jpg)


Now this would be fun to have at the ports and maybe from the CV's.

(http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/air/us/doug/04633.jpg)
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Post by: BaldEagl on October 05, 2007, 09:58:24 AM
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Originally posted by Devonai
Wow, I've been inside the genuine article and it sure didn't look like you could cram a Jeep in there.  I assume there must have been some modifications to the fuselage for that role?


I've been inside one too.  It seemed huge to me plus the WWII military M-2 and M-3 Jeeps are tiny compared to todays Jeep (I almost got to buy one a few years back from a private party but by the time I said I'd take it another guy was already writing out a check).
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Post by: Devonai on October 05, 2007, 10:46:21 AM
Thank you, NHawk.  The pilot claimed it was an original C-47, but I have no way of knowing.  Nobody said, "hey, look at the riveting on the vertical stabilizer, this is a repainted DC-3!"  He did say the Normandy invasion stripes were not genuine.

The interior was in jump configuration with a single door, hence my doubt.
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Post by: NHawk on October 05, 2007, 11:24:28 AM
A WWII jump or military passenger configuration would have looked like this...

(http://www.brewsterbuffalos.com/htc/c47jump.gif)

(http://www.brewsterbuffalos.com/htc/jump47.jpg)

The cargo version looks pretty much the same but with the seats removed.
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Post by: RAIDER14 on October 05, 2007, 06:42:14 PM
(http://members.aol.com/WW2JeepMBGPW/Photos/JeepItalyC47.jpg)
Jeep being loaded  onto a C47
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Post by: NHawk on October 06, 2007, 06:05:38 AM
That's the photo I recalled seeing. It's probably the only one in existence.
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Post by: clerick on October 06, 2007, 11:09:18 AM
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
(http://members.aol.com/WW2JeepMBGPW/Photos/JeepItalyC47.jpg)
Jeep being loaded  onto a C47


What a PITA that must have been.
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Post by: E25280 on October 06, 2007, 12:24:09 PM
We would need gliders to be modeled . . . :)

M22 Locust (http://www.robertsarmory.com/m22.htm)

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Twelve of the tanks were landed using the giant Hamilcar glider during the Rhine crossing on March 24, 1945. The British airborne crossing of the Rhine river, called Operation Varsity, utilized over 50 large Hamilcar Gliders delivering airborne tanks and other equipment for the 6th Airborne Armored Reconnaissance Regiment, Royal Armored Corps, of the British forces. One Locust tank was credited with killing over 100 enemy soldiers.