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Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:38:49 PM
I went to this little airshow in Columbus, Ohio called "The Gathering of Mustangs and Legends" yesterday.

There was a nice young man that displayed a USA flag to start the cerimonies...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/flag-1.JPG)

The Tuskegee Airmen were there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Tuskegee-Airmen.JPG)

The Arabian Knight showed up...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/AKs.jpg)


(From left to right, AKauger, AKDogg (behind), AKJrDogg, AKdream, AKraven (in front), AKowl)

Somebody brought an M-16...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/m-16-1.JPG)

with a lot of guns...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/m-16-2.JPG)

There was an M-3 there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/m-3.JPG)

and a C-47...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/c-47.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:39:48 PM
There were a bunch of civilian demonstration teams there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-3.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-4.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-5.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-6.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-7.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/stunt-8.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:40:19 PM
Somebody brought a Lancaster...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Lancaster-wheels-up.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Lancaster-in-haze.JPG)

and a couple of B-17's showed up...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-17-doors-open.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-17-in-flight.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-17-wheels-up.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-17-mb.JPG)

and a few B-25's...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-25-2-gear-up.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-25-in-haze.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/B-25-wheels-up.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:40:58 PM
There were 2 P-47's flying through the smoke...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-47s-in-smoke.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-47s-1.JPG)


A couple of P-38s showed up...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-38-1.JPG)


and couple of P-40s...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-40-1.JPG)


A P-63 showed up...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-63-1.JPG)

An F-16 demonstration team was there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/F-16-1.JPG)

An F-15 demonstration team was there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/F-15-1.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:41:35 PM
an F-22 demonstration team was there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/F-22-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/F-22-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/F-22-3.JPG)

The Thunderbirds were there...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Thunderbirds-4.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Thunderbirds-3.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Thunderbirds-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/Thunderbirds.JPG)

We even had a B-2 fly over...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/b-2.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:42:27 PM
There were a lot of people at this little airshow. And that’s all the pictures we got…



except…



of course…



after all...



this is the Gathering of Mustangs and Legends…



so I guess I should have a picture of a Mustang or two…


(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-14.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f16-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f16-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f15-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f15-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f22-1.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f22-2.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:43:07 PM
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-2.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-3.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-4.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-5.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-6.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-7.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-8.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-9.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-10.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-11.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:43:56 PM
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-12.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-13.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-15.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-16.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-17.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-18.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 04:44:52 PM
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-19.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-20.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-21.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-22.JPG)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-23.JPG)




With many, many thanks to a lot of people I've never met that made this event poossible.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Guppy35 on September 30, 2007, 04:51:12 PM
Great pics :)  Sounds like it was a great show. Wish I coulda made it.

Gotta love those 80th FS Headhunter 38s though don't ya? :)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-38-1.JPG)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: kennyhayes on September 30, 2007, 05:02:31 PM
i went to yesterday i walked maybe 20 miles i woke up 5pm today went to bed 11 last night
i have some pics that i will show
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Jack16 on September 30, 2007, 05:13:53 PM
WOW great pics!:O
Thanks for sharing.:cool:
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Stang on September 30, 2007, 05:23:15 PM
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Great pics :)  Sounds like it was a great show. Wish I coulda made it.

Gotta love those 80th FS Headhunter 38s though don't ya? :)

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/P-38-1.JPG)
Something's wrong with that one, it seems to be all in one piece.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: evenhaim on September 30, 2007, 05:30:42 PM
well obvoiously its not corkys plane :lol
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Jack16
WOW great pics!:O
Thanks for sharing.:cool:


Thanks for the complement. I can't take credit for all of these pics, as Dogg, Mrs. Dogg, and Auger are contributing photographers to this layout.

We had a blast at the show.

The F-22 demonstration flight was absolutly unbelievable.

The 100 or so P-51's were awesome.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Husky01 on September 30, 2007, 06:38:27 PM
All the AKs 4th FG 613th WoT and more that were there, was a blast to meet everyone!
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Virage on September 30, 2007, 07:21:49 PM
Great Shots!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Treize69 on September 30, 2007, 07:42:23 PM
May an unclean yak squat in your hot tub. :furious :cry
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: evenhaim on September 30, 2007, 07:43:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Treize69
May an unclean yak squat in your hot tub. :furious :cry
:rofl
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: SFraptor on September 30, 2007, 07:56:59 PM
I have gone to a airshow at offut air force bace and it had everything thare b2, c5 that people parashooted out of, c130, b52, f16, a10, f15, many stunt teams, Blue angles, many helicopters, uncountable ww2 and ww1 aircraft, and more sorry i couldnt get any pictures (lacked digital camera) but next time i will. the base was located a few miles away so before i went to the show i could see the teams practicing
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Simaril on September 30, 2007, 08:12:20 PM
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May an unclean yak squat in your hot tub.  



Sorry, no Yaks showed up....



But there were scads of other AHers there. Several of the 4th FG (Fencer, Boozer, Hammer, PH, BSwin; wives Fence-ette and Swin-ette); 332nd FG (Simaril, TWolf/ Zip41); Hack9, Wooly, Odee, OGIE, BigAL, LIttle Al, Greyga and a few I can't recall off the top of my head. We ran into BearKats and SHawk, but the alt and zoom made their sightings brief.

There were a number of vets there, though of course always fewer and fewer around. I managed to get a poster autographed by a frail Alex Boudreaux, 477th Composite Air Group of the "Tuskegee Army Air Force" (as he signed his unit). Most exciting for me was listening to Wooley talk with a vet of the 8th AF, who happened to be the pilot of an 8th AF Mustang that happened to be skinned on a plastic model he had happened to buy. That autographed wing will be coated in acrylic clear matte, I imagine. (I'll let him tell the story and name the plane/pilot.)


After Friday and Saturday at the shows, several of us went to Dayton to revisit the AF museum.

 Havent gotten my pics -- -some of which are on a low tech medium called "film" -- ready for upload. I'll get them up when I can, including pics of the sim pilots. Always love seeing the faces that go with the voices!
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Treize69 on September 30, 2007, 08:17:32 PM
I'm still fuming that I got denied those days off even though I dropped the paperwork 3 months in advance.

I was so steamed that I tracked down the guy who did get them and challenged him to Rochambeau for them. He wouldn't go for it, the wimp. :mad:
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on September 30, 2007, 08:22:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Treize69
May an unclean yak squat in your hot tub. :furious :cry


Hmm...I thought I was sensing a little ...ummm... hostility?
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: MotleyCH on September 30, 2007, 08:55:55 PM
Wow..great pics:aok


Thanks for sharing..wish I could have been there:cry
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: lyric1 on October 01, 2007, 08:23:18 AM
Was there yesterday as well very cool event got to meet Bud Anderson who could ask for more.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Fencer51 on October 01, 2007, 11:12:21 AM
(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/Geraldine.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/ShangriLa.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/P-47D40s.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/P-38GG.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/P-38RuffStuff.jpg)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Fencer51 on October 01, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/Princess2.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/Maconbelle.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/P-47_HHXII.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/MissMarilyn.jpg)

(http://www.4thfg.org/GML2007/Fencer/PolarBear.jpg)

Only downside to the whole event was the promised "51" Mustang flyby was either a joke on the crowd or diminished by something to 20 Mustangs doing the number 51.  While it was nice to see that many, more than one pass with them in formation (finger 4) would have been nice.  I see that they have modified the "Event Schedule" on the GML website to reflect this "change" in the program for Satuday.  IF they flew it on Sunday (which I doubt) I will be doubly unhappy.

They could have flown some 8 plane sorties and did flybys nice and slow but as happened in 1999 they did not.   A few more sorties of 8 to 12 Mustangs would have went far into removing the disapointment of the lack of the promised 51 plane flyby.  The announcer's failure to point out that Mustangs were taking off also was annoying.  First you would know is when it was too late to get the shot.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Simaril on October 01, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
Yeah, the announcers were annoying, but I think that's part of the job description. They also seemed to chatter on top of the sweet, sweet sounds of piston engines....so sound pack potential, and simple enjoyment, were much impared.



There were a few gaffes, my personal favorite being a Friday mention of the P-51s revolutionary laminar flow engine.


But nothing could take away the thrills: seeing the backwash from P-47 startups blow down the snow fence,  or hearing the sweet pounding revs from 4 Lancaster Merlins.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: wooly15 on October 01, 2007, 11:56:49 AM
Agreed Fencer, the 51 formation caught me totally off guard and I had no time to get the camera ready.  
On the other hand the rest of the weekend was a BLAST.  It was awesome to meet the faces behind the voices like Simaril said.  To finish the story that Simaril started...his name is Elmo Sears (Lt. Elmo Sears).  He flew with the 479th FG/ 434FS.  The coolest thing about it is he came up to us, well Fencer and asked about the shirt he was wearing and it went from there.  Elmo would tell you stories as long as you would sit there and listen and I did, like a little boy at story time.  I had him sign a P-51 model I bought along with a few other Aces to include Frank Speer, and Clyde East with 13 victories in a PR mustang!  Here is Elmo's plane, American Maid.

http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery.php?Group=479&Style=item&origStyle=list&Item=45&Temp=1771&searchString=

to all of you I met and see you in the simulated skies soon.

Wooly
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: wooly15 on October 01, 2007, 11:59:21 AM
Oh I forgot the best "announcer moment"...as the two P-47's were doing the simulated strafing runs, the announcer said "look at that ladies and gentlemen, those are two beautiful jugs" ....classic because I don't think he realized the double entendre.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Shuffler on October 01, 2007, 12:09:54 PM
WOW great pics.... We have an airshow here next weekend. I'll be there sunday as I have an appointment with some LW aircraft on Saturday (DGS).

Wings Over Houston (http://www.wingsoverhouston.com/)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Simaril on October 01, 2007, 01:37:18 PM
Lt Sears is probably still around, when many of his comrades have passed on,  because of a mishap that occurred at the O'Club. He said
Quote
"We ate, drank, and were merry because tomorrow you might end up in the drink. Well, one night I had been putting them away pretty well, and I reached down to put my cigarette back in my mouth...but stuck the wrong end in!"


He maide it sound like there was a fire to put out, but I hope that was understandable exaggeration.

Anyway, he said he never had a desire for another cigarette after that, and would trade his government supplied packs away.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on October 01, 2007, 06:08:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Fencer51
Only downside to the whole event was the promised "51" Mustang flyby was either a joke on the crowd or diminished by something to 20 Mustangs doing the number 51.  While it was nice to see that many, more than one pass with them in formation (finger 4) would have been nice.  I see that they have modified the "Event Schedule" on the GML website to reflect this "change" in the program for Satuday.  IF they flew it on Sunday (which I doubt) I will be doubly unhappy.


As I understood it, they never intended to fly the 51 Mustangs in formation on Saturday, only Sunday. Not that I felt dissapointed on Saturday. We spent almost all day at the fenceline, and there were only a few times without planes in the sky to watch.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Fencer51 on October 01, 2007, 08:21:24 PM
Their website until Friday night or Saturday said "51 Mustang Flyby" for Saturday.  That's why I stayed an extra day.

Now the question is, did they pull it off on Sunday?
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: oy1crazyace on October 01, 2007, 08:31:37 PM
man i just barely missed this, was gonna make a trip to ohio to see this with my roommate but i diched on it because it was me and me girls anniversary.

maybe next time i will just take the heat and dicher :p :p :p
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: DoNKeY on October 01, 2007, 08:44:00 PM
Hey, its like a squad night lol.  

Nice pictures.:aok
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Husky01 on October 01, 2007, 08:44:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Fencer51
Their website until Friday night or Saturday said "51 Mustang Flyby" for Saturday.  That's why I stayed an extra day.

Now the question is, did they pull it off on Sunday?


Fencer do you have that group photo of some of us towards the end of the show Saturday?
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on October 02, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Fencer51
Their website until Friday night or Saturday said "51 Mustang Flyby" for Saturday.  That's why I stayed an extra day.

Now the question is, did they pull it off on Sunday?



The schedule I printed from their website on the 25th (Tuesday) had,

for Saturday:

"The # "51" Flight formation"

and for Sunday:

"Flight of 51 P-51s Formation"

It's the same as it is now on their website. I haven't spoken to anyone about Sunday, but I'm guessing it's on the web somewhere. I'll post a picture if I can find it.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Pepprr on October 02, 2007, 06:59:38 PM
WHOOT!!! AK's
Wish I could have been there!:aok
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Denholm on October 02, 2007, 07:38:56 PM
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Originally posted by Dream Child
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-f22-2.JPG)

Did the Ponies not get the memo? 20,000 Free perks for shooting down the F-22.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Dream Child on October 02, 2007, 07:55:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
Did the Ponies not get the memo? 20,000 Free perks for shooting down the F-22.


Hmm...guess I should post this picture then...

(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/pony-guns.jpg)


This was the guns package on a D model, left side.

OTOH, having seen the F-22 fly, there was no real danger of anything else being able to get a firing solution on it. It was that impressive.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: AKDogg on October 02, 2007, 10:17:23 PM
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x33/Oldmaddog/Followme.jpg)

Here u go for some of u who can't follow the runway.  I sure this help ya some, hehehehe.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: MjTalon on October 02, 2007, 10:41:42 PM
great pics !:aok :aok  wish i was there... F22's, P51s, 47s. aw Man :cry
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Golfer on October 03, 2007, 12:32:36 AM
I never thought I'd hear of someone disappointed they saw 20 Mustangs in formation.:huh

The plan all along was for Saturday to have a formation flyby in the form of the number 51.  Sunday they were to put up 51 airplanes in one single formation but I'm not sure how many they got up.

I know one of the airplane that was supposed to be in the show had her engine start making metal about 10 days before it was supposed to leave so it was obviously down.  OTOH I know the airplane they crated over from Duxford was put back together in less than 4 days and flown to the show from the airport they did the reassembly.  Astonishing! :aok
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Simaril on October 03, 2007, 08:36:41 AM
Here are some more pics, ones that I posted on our squad BBS. (Sorry -- but I don't feel like repeating all the copy/paste link action.)

Link to more show pics (http://332nd.org/forum/index.php?topic=3311.0)



Golfer:

Not sure how airshows are usually run, but I'm REALLY disppointed if "that was the plan all along." Simply don't understand why they couldnt have made that plan clear, even with the caveats and "might not work outs." I was able to go all 3 days, and chose the days I went based on what looked like identical schedules prior to leaving; if I had any idea there was going to be a massive formation Sunday, I would have jiggled things around so I would have been there THAT day and gone to the AF Museum Saturday.

I have sympathy for the massive logistics involved, but it seems pretty minor league to keep major information like that secret. Lord knows the announcers filled the air with enough drivel that it wouldnt have cost  a thing to say "we're planning a special formation Saturday, and the largest fly by we can get Sunday." I'm thankful to have seen what I did, but VERY VERY disappointed to hear that something even better was pulled off on a day I could have been there.
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Post by: Odee on October 03, 2007, 10:09:14 AM
WOW What lens and camera are you using?  I only had the 55mm lens for my Rebel XT Canon, but your shots look far better than mine:aok :aok

That's Patty Wagstaff's autograph on AKDogg's pic of the FOLLOW ME girl.  Owner of the jeep was staying at our hotel and I spent about 2 hours yakking him up.  Seems he was in the 4th Fighter Wing in Korea flying WB-26's for the Intel weenies.
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Simaril on October 03, 2007, 10:19:37 AM
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Originally posted by Odee
....Owner of the jeep was staying at our hotel and I spent about 2 hours yakking him up.....


Odee is amazong.

At the show, and at AF Museum, the rest of us would be ambling along, and find Odee had disappeared again -- which invariably meant he was striking up a conversation with some really interesting person or another. Makes me a bit envious to see guys like him, with one of those personality magnets that makes everyone he meets a long lost best friend!
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Post by: Fencer51 on October 03, 2007, 10:30:34 AM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Fencer do you have that group photo of some of us towards the end of the show Saturday?


I see if I can find it tonight. (500 photos)
Title: Gathering of Mustangs and Legends - pics
Post by: Fencer51 on October 03, 2007, 10:33:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Golfer
I never thought I'd hear of someone disappointed they saw 20 Mustangs in formation.:huh

The plan all along was for Saturday to have a formation flyby in the form of the number 51.  Sunday they were to put up 51 airplanes in one single formation but I'm not sure how many they got up.


Gotta disagree with you on that.  The 51 formation was to be Saturday as well.  At some point, they changed that.  They even mentioned it on the PA on Saturday that they "hoped" to up 51 Mustangs.

Yeah I was disappointed.  I had seen 20 Mustangs before (and they did more than one flyby) back at the OTHER "Last Round Up" in 1999.  It was actually 24 or 26.
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Post by: Fencer51 on October 03, 2007, 10:36:22 AM
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Originally posted by Simaril
Odee is amazong.

At the show, and at AF Museum, the rest of us would be ambling along, and find Odee had disappeared again -- which invariably meant he was striking up a conversation with some really interesting person or another. Makes me a bit envious to see guys like him, with one of those personality magnets that makes everyone he meets a long lost best friend!


IF I were to be President, I would make Odee the Secretary of State, we would own the world.
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Post by: Golfer on October 03, 2007, 11:08:55 AM
Fencer the plan was never ever ever to fly 51 airplanes on Saturday.  Here's the event schedule right from their website:

http://www.gml2007.com/eschedule.asp

Saturday - September 29th


Gates open: 8:00 a.m.

Various AM Photo/Formation Missions

Opening Ceremonies: 9:30 a.m.
Scheduled flying activities began directly after*

• John Klatt (Air National Guard)
• John Mohr
• Red Barons
• Ed Hamill (Air Force Reserve)
• T6 Solo Demo
• AeroShell Team
• Patty Wagstaff
• Lee Lauderback (P-51 Solo)
• Horsemen Routine
• Michael Goulian
• USAF Heritage Flight(s)
• F-16 Viper Demo
• F-15 Eagle Demo
• F-22 Raptor Demo
• USAF Thunderbirds
• The # “51” Flight Formation
• Pyro Technical Display
• Various other Formations / Performances



And for Sunday...

Sunday - September 30th


Gates open: 8:00 a.m.

Various AM Photo/Formation Missions

Opening Ceremonies: 9:30 a.m.
Scheduled flying activities began directly after*

• John Klatt (Air National Guard)
• John Mohr
• Red Barons
• Ed Hamill (Air Force Reserve)
• T6 Solo Demo
• AeroShell Team
• Patty Wagstaff
• Lee Lauderback (P-51 Solo)
• Horsemen Routine
• Michael Goulian
• USAF Heritage Flight(s)
• F-16 Viper Demo
• F-15 Eagle Demo
• F-22 Raptor Demo
• USAF Thunderbirds
• Pyro Technical Display
• Flight of 51 P-51s Formation
• Various other Formations / Performances

I was there on Saturday and heard the same announcements you did.  Knowing the schedule I never got my hopes up for something that wasn't promised.  The closest thing I ever heard was they hoped to get 51 airplanes into the air which was made concurrently with the announcment to have people get the heck out of the way when they're tugging the airplanes around to the ready area.  Also having 20 Mustangs taxiing past the crowd and up to the runway was a pretty good indicator that they were going to be flying only 20 airplanes on Saturday which for months now has been the plan.  I can't feel sorry for anyone disappointed for the an airshow going as planned.
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Post by: AKDogg on October 03, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
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WOW What lens and camera are you using?  I only had the 55mm lens for my Rebel XT Canon, but your shots look far better than mine:aok :aok

That's Patty Wagstaff's autograph on AKDogg's pic of the FOLLOW ME girl.  Owner of the jeep was staying at our hotel and I spent about 2 hours yakking him up.  Seems he was in the 4th Fighter Wing in Korea flying WB-26's for the Intel weenies.


Mine is a kodak easyshare Z7590.  It has a 10X optical zoom lens, f/2.8–f/3.7, 38–380 mm (35 mm equivalent) with 3.0X continuous advanced zoom, 0.2X increments that starts at 10X optical zoom (LCD display mode) .
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Post by: PhilBGolf on October 03, 2007, 11:48:02 AM
Dang, Golfer, I wish I had known you were there.  Woulda loved to meet ya :)
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Post by: Simaril on October 03, 2007, 12:18:18 PM
NM
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Post by: Golfer on October 03, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
Think we have something in common mr Phil B. Golf? :)

I didn't see any of the AH crew there.  I made a few trips out to the line of mustangs, the legends area and even got to touch a flyable Lancaster.  I took my AH hat with me but did spend most of my time for the airshow activities in the reserved box seats area.  Money well spent if you ask me!

I spent my fair share of time in the lemonade line as well...it was a bit toasty for a late September day!
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Post by: Odee on October 03, 2007, 12:46:41 PM
:D Thanks Simaril...  You are a peach.

And Fencer wants me to be my own boss?  (Already work at State and a bigger bunch of backstabbers and ne're do wells I have yet to meet)  hehehe.
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Originally posted by Simaril
Odee is amazong.

At the show, and at AF Museum, the rest of us would be ambling along, and find Odee had disappeared again -- which invariably meant he was striking up a conversation with some really interesting person or another. Makes me a bit envious to see guys like him, with one of those personality magnets that makes everyone he meets a long lost best friend!
:D

Yeah...  That's what my dad hates about me and it's why I'm glad he didn't come along...  *bad Odee baaaad...*

Guess I'm a "Stop and smell the glycol/leather/oil" kind of guy. :D
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Post by: wooly15 on October 03, 2007, 01:19:42 PM
What about the free cookies Odee??:noid
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Post by: Odee on October 03, 2007, 02:19:37 PM
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Originally posted by wooly15
What about the free cookies Odee??:noid
Fencer forgot to bring them.
:cry :cry
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Post by: Fencer51 on October 03, 2007, 04:35:35 PM
Golfer, I am not going to get into an argument about the 51 formation.

It stated on there website for months until sometime last week that SATURDAY would have a 51 plane formation.  Don't fall for revisionist history.  The two days were identical.  And thanks I too heard the 51 plane announcement.  The "20 planes" taxing might have been indicative of the "plan" but we were already there.  Little late to indicate something then eh?

Cheers
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Post by: Golfer on October 03, 2007, 05:08:56 PM
There is no argument to be had about it Fencer.  The plan on their website was a #51 formation since at least June 25th when my group bought our box seats.  We had our own discussions about which day to go because of the 51 plane formation which was to only happen on Sunday.  We settled on Saturday because of the realities of life and travel for those not lucky enough to live nearby leaving Sunday as an option.

There's no argument here because you were either misinformed, misread their website or are simply disappointed because you misheard someone's hearsay.

I'm sorry that happened but there is no great mustang conspiracy and certainly no reason to be disappointed.
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Post by: Dream Child on October 03, 2007, 06:25:26 PM
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Originally posted by Odee
WOW What lens and camera are you using?  I only had the 55mm lens for my Rebel XT Canon, but your shots look far better than mine:aok :aok
 


Almost all of the flight pictures on the first page were taken with a Cannon Powershot S1, 10x optical zoom. (The present Cannon equivalent offering is the S3 with a 12x optical zoom.) To get the shots, I had to manually set the focus to infinity, set the camera on the action setting, preload the camera's shutter speed and F-stop, then follow the action until I got the shot I wanted, realizing that my shutter speed and F-stop settings might not be quite right by time I actually took the picture.
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Post by: Dream Child on October 03, 2007, 06:44:29 PM
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Golfer, I am not going to get into an argument about the 51 formation.

It stated on there website for months until sometime last week that SATURDAY would have a 51 plane formation.  Don't fall for revisionist history.  The two days were identical.  And thanks I too heard the 51 plane announcement.  The "20 planes" taxing might have been indicative of the "plan" but we were already there.  Little late to indicate something then eh?

Cheers


Fencer,

As I live 20 minutes from Rickenbacker, I'd been following this for about 6 months prior to the show. The only day I had ever known them to be having the flight of 51 Mustangs was Sunday. Having said that, I don't believe they did, as the weather was poor until Friday, so they didn't get the practice they required for the formation.
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Post by: PhilBGolf on October 04, 2007, 07:43:10 AM
When I read the website, I remember them promising a 600 plane P51 formation, with 3 262's and an SR71 escort.  Also, they were giving away leather bomber jackets and free kisses from the girl that was polishing "Sweet and Lovely."  Why else would I fly all the way up there from Pensacola? :D
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Post by: Odee on October 04, 2007, 10:09:12 AM
Dream Child, thanks for the info...  Stupid techno-rookie me was using auto focus...   :cry   I have since gone through the manual and am practicing with the regular old fahion style of focus, f-stop, etc. like my old Canon 35mm has.

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....Why else would I fly all the way up there from Pensacola? :D
Discounting the exagerrations?  I think you flew up there on the hopes of nabbing a ride in a pony or other bird.... as well as the photo=op kiss from the 3 Calendar Girls in there Cherries on white dresses :D

There never was to be 51 ponies in the air at one time... you guys are mistaking the formation NUMBER #51  which they did do on Saturday. :aok
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Post by: 33Vortex on October 04, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
Amazing pics, thanks for sharing!
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Post by: Brooke on October 04, 2007, 03:34:54 PM
Thanks for the pics!
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Post by: Dream Child on October 04, 2007, 07:37:28 PM
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Originally posted by Odee
Dream Child, thanks for the info...  Stupid techno-rookie me was using auto focus...   :cry   I have since gone through the manual and am practicing with the regular old fahion style of focus, f-stop, etc. like my old Canon 35mm has.


For an aerial shoot like this was, you can almost guarantee setting the focus to infinity will work, as the aircraft were never closer than 1000 feet or so, and only rarely that close. As for the shutter speed and F-stop, even if you're off a little, as long as it's not blurry, you can adjust the lighting on the computer, at least to a point. To help keep it not blurry, set the shutter speed high.

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There never was to be 51 ponies in the air at one time... you guys are mistaking the formation NUMBER #51  which they did do on Saturday. :aok


Actually, Sunday was supposed to have 51 ponies in the air. One of my coworkers was there Sunday. His recollection was that they said they didn't have enough practice due to the weather conditions earlier in the week and they weren't willing to risk it. Can't say as I blame them, as it was raining much of Thursday before the show. Even with the weather, we still had several ponies fly over where I work on Thursday.
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Post by: Simaril on October 04, 2007, 07:56:07 PM
Question for the photo guys among you.

I had a number of shots that I thought would show a very deep blue sky, but they ended up being glared out into white. How would I have better set the limits with the autofocusing, auto exposure 35mm to keep the target plane bright enough to see, but the larger sky dim enough to show the rich blue that was really there?

I tended to take my shots with the sun out of the picture (duh) but between me and the plane -- so the light was shining on the surface of the planes, sometimes giving a visible reflection. I was afraid that with the noon and early afternoon sun's brightness, if I took the picture with the sun above but behind me the planes would be sillouhetted out into just outlines.

The planes looked bright and sharp, but the sky was washed out into white, like I said.
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Post by: PhilBGolf on October 04, 2007, 11:19:17 PM
Circular polarizing filter :)
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Post by: Dream Child on October 05, 2007, 06:10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Simaril
Question for the photo guys among you.

I had a number of shots that I thought would show a very deep blue sky, but they ended up being glared out into white. How would I have better set the limits with the autofocusing, auto exposure 35mm to keep the target plane bright enough to see, but the larger sky dim enough to show the rich blue that was really there?

I tended to take my shots with the sun out of the picture (duh) but between me and the plane -- so the light was shining on the surface of the planes, sometimes giving a visible reflection. I was afraid that with the noon and early afternoon sun's brightness, if I took the picture with the sun above but behind me the planes would be sillouhetted out into just outlines.

The planes looked bright and sharp, but the sky was washed out into white, like I said.


Simaril,

Are you shooting film? If there was still smoke over the airfield, or clouds behind your subject, that will make big a difference. The angle you take the shot from the sun will make a difference, as the blue is polarized light from the atmosphere at 90 degrees from the sun, so the perfect shot would have the sun be at 90 degrees from the subject as you're looking at it.