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Final Score
Cowboys 35
Rams 7
NFL.com game review (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=REG4&game_id=29246)
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Final Score
Cowboys 35
Rams 7
Score too small for basketball, too big for football or any kind of hockey. Is it handball?
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Cowboys are arguably the best team in the NFC right now
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Originally posted by Boroda
Is it handball?
Score!:aok
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I haven't watched a single game live that Tony Romo has played this year. I plan on not watching as long as the streak holds out.
BTW, Romo MAY be the real deal. I'm talking Staubach real.
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Originally posted by rpm
I haven't watched a single game live that Tony Romo has played this year. I plan on not watching as long as the streak holds out.
BTW, Romo MAY be the real deal. I'm talking Staubach real.
Maybe:D
Looks good so far.
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Originally posted by 1K3
Score!:aok
Seriously, maybe it's rugby? :rolleyes:
Then who are this people? Tonga vs Fiji? Cows at Tonga?! Rams?! Is it sports or maybe just fighting for food? Oceanic ruminants?
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Yup. Cowboys passing game is awesome. It's going to get better once Terry Glenn returns. Jason Witten is on fire.
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dude, its the RAMS FFS!
How bad could it be!?
Its like watching the Us invade iraq.
"they won"
"no $^%&!?"
Dumb arse :aok "Edited to Boroda, not raider"
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:aok
4-0
:cool:
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Yup. Cowboys passing game is awesome. It's going to get better once Terry Glenn returns. Jason Witten is on fire.
I have always been a huge Terry Glenn fan.
Thanks Rip.:D
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From watching the Bear vs. Cowboys last week, I can tell you Romo is the real deal. He has good size, nice pocket presence, and an accurate arm. (It also helps that he has good targets to throw to.)
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Originally posted by rpm
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And he seems to be keeping his mouth shut more. Maybe with out his lips flappin he seems to be able to catch better
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Jason Garret is doing a great job as well. I think he gives Romo more confidence to let it go more.
Romo reminds me of a young Brett Farve. Kind of that gunslinger attitude and they are definatley playing well. Staubach? Huhhhh....no. Roger was and always will be the best with Aikman right behind him. I will say Romo looks better than Danny White ever did tho. IMHO of course.
The aformentioned nameless reciever is doing quite well and Witten is indeed playing like the ole Novachek.
They are fun to watch right now and playing loose.
Hope it lasts.
<---big cowboys fan.
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Originally posted by rpm
I haven't watched a single game live that Tony Romo has played this year. I plan on not watching as long as the streak holds out.
BTW, Romo MAY be the real deal. I'm talking Staubach real.
Until he plays up in Seattle again.:rofl
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Originally posted by RedTop
Romo reminds me of a young Brett Farve. Kind of that gunslinger attitude
You are not the first one to say that RT. And I agree.
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I just like watching the Cheerleaders in Dallas. Been watching the tv show about making the DCC on CMT. mighty nice
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Originally posted by RedTop
Romo reminds me of a young Brett Farve. Kind of that gunslinger attitude and they are definatley playing well.
Romo is a 3rd generation Mexican who watched Brett Farve growing up actually. He was a big GB fan. ;)
Romo throws off his back foot waaaaaaaaaay too much. It will bite him eventually I think. He's got a good physical rapport going on with "Me Me Me" (TO) so that's working right now...at the moment...
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How about some quotes about TO from the past? Still applicable now that TO is in your camp, Redtop, RPM?
Originally posted by rpm
I have a bottle of Dom set aside for the day TO blows out his knee. Hopefully it's against the Cowboys and it happens on the star.
Originally posted by RedTop
Superstar players:lol Screw em. There's tons of good players out there looking to play. Screw T.O. and the rest that are like em. Bunch of OVERPAID wimpy wuss dogs.
This is the first year in MANY that I haven't watched more than a quater or 2 of Pro Ball. It all is a disgrace and Drama queen Crap.
Kind of like the AH BBS at atimes. :rofl
College Ball. NOW THATS FUN BABY:aok
Let me guess..."Whatever it takes to win, he's okay with me NOW that he plays for MY team". ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
How about some quotes about TO from the past? Still applicable now that TO is in your camp, Redtop, RPM?
Originally posted by rpm
I have a bottle of Dom set aside for the day TO blows out his knee. Hopefully it's against the Cowboys and it happens on the star.
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Originally posted by RedTop
Superstar players Screw em. There's tons of good players out there looking to play. Screw T.O. and the rest that are like em. Bunch of OVERPAID wimpy wuss dogs.
This is the first year in MANY that I haven't watched more than a quater or 2 of Pro Ball. It all is a disgrace and Drama queen Crap.
Kind of like the AH BBS at atimes.
College Ball. NOW THATS FUN BABY
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Let me guess..."Whatever it takes to win, he's okay with me NOW that he plays for MY team". ;)
Oh no no no....T.O is a wuss overpaid hyped up mouth. I wish he played for your team or ANY team outside of Dallas. I can't stand him. Terry Glenn is IMHO better than T.O.. T.O. just gets the hype.
You can take decent recievers and make them better when you have a good Q.B. and a very good offensive line. When your running game is going well and your Tight ends become a real threat....when you have backs that can catch....Wide outs become better by simply being another threat.
Many players IMHO in the NFL are over payed mouths. Thats why I prefer College...and it can be at times just as mouthy as the NFL. But , they are playing trying to EARN a way to the NFL...where as once in the NFL....they get all egotistical.
And for the record I watch the bears game....Part of the New York Game...Caught very lil of the miami game....and didnt watch a play yesterday. But...I see highlights...read some sports...and watched Romo during preseason and caught a lil bit this year. He looks good. T.O. looks good....cant stand him...want him gone....but then again I want Jerry Jones gone to.
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Bash on T.O. all you want. He brings a hell of alot to the team. Mr. "Me,Me,Me" sure goes all out to get down field and block for his teamates.
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Originally posted by Slash27
Bash on T.O. all you want. He brings a hell of alot to the team. Mr. "Me,Me,Me" sure goes all out to get down field and block for his teamates.
I have heard of this anomoly that T.O. is having....perhaps he has turned the corner and knows he's OLD and no one outside of being desprate would sign him now. So , he's giving more to the team effort of the COWBOYS than the team effort of T.O..
I'll hold out tho and figure he'll blow up soon enough and let his mouth run off. Maybe he thinks this is his last shot to get to the Superbowl.
I just think he'll show his colors before the season is out.
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Did anybody catch Romo's news conference after the game?
If I wasn't a fan of his before I sure would be now.
I'm still taking a wait and see approach. I'll always be a Cowboy fan but I keep expecting them to blow up at some point. TO I have to admit, ran down the field and was blocking for Crayton and has been playing some unselfish ball. I'd still trade him for a draft pick or a pack of smokes.
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Originally posted by RedTop
I'll hold out tho and figure he'll blow up soon enough and let his mouth run off. Maybe he thinks this is his last shot to get to the Superbowl.
I just think he'll show his colors before the season is out.
mostly likely true given what a cynical world we live in, but perhaps there is a chance for redemption. hoisting the lombardi trophy on the same star he defamed would mark a turn about in that man's life.
and it always makes me smile when someone betters themself. even if they didn't realize how good they had it all along.
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Originally posted by rpm
I have always been a huge Terry Glenn fan.
Thanks Rip.:D
He's also keeping his mouth shut which is a nice change of pace LOL
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Originally posted by RedTop
I have heard of this anomoly that T.O. is having....perhaps he has turned the corner and knows he's OLD and no one outside of being desprate would sign him now. So , he's giving more to the team effort of the COWBOYS than the team effort of T.O..
I'll hold out tho and figure he'll blow up soon enough and let his mouth run off. Maybe he thinks this is his last shot to get to the Superbowl.
I just think he'll show his colors before the season is out.
Odds are yes, but I will enjoy the ride as long as it lasts.:D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
How about some quotes about TO from the past? Still applicable now that TO is in your camp, Redtop, RPM?
Let me guess..."Whatever it takes to win, he's okay with me NOW that he plays for MY team". ;)
You would be wrong, Rip. I still have the Dom on standby. I think the guy's a total bellybutton and will eventually get what he deserves.
Why has he been behaving lately? I think Phillips slipped lithium in his gatorade.
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Originally posted by rpm
You would be wrong, Rip. I still have the Dom on standby. I think the guy's a total bellybutton and will eventually get what he deserves.
Why has he been behaving lately? I think Phillips slipped lithium in his gatorade.
:rofl :rofl
I wouldn't blame you for getting behind your man. You can like the player but hate the person. I'll allow it. ;)
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I don't like him, but at least he's being productive.
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Lets see. The Cowboys beat:
The 2-2 Giants
The 0-4 Dolphins
The 1-3 Bears
The 0-4 Rams
Let's see how they do when they play a team with a winning record before we get all bandwagony.
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4 of those losses you just mentioned were from the Cowboys...go boys!
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Originally posted by jaxxo
4 of those losses you just mentioned were from the Cowboys...go boys!
You sir, are a... genious!
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Did anyone bother to check the Mexican's green card before he put #9 on tonight? The Mexican has 4 INT's! Holy Tamale Batman!
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4 picks so far tonight and counting........Go Cowboys!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Did anyone bother to check the Mexican's green card before he put #9 on tonight? The Mexican has 4 INT's! Holy Tamale Batman!
4 picks and only down by 7.......New England would be up by 28 prolly.
Romo will be fine in the 2nd half.....T.O. will be calling Jerry asking him for more plays....or is it Wade? Who is Jerry this year?
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It's ugly alright. Oh well, even Roger never put together a perfect season.
Still, it's a long way to the end and Dallas has been a 2nd half team all season.
(BTW, if they lose it's my fault. 1st game I've watched all season.
WTF was I thinking?!?)
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Originally posted by RedTop
T.O. will be calling Jerry asking him for more plays....or is it Wade? Who is Jerry this year?
That would be Jason Garrett.
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Originally posted by rpm
That would be Jason Garrett.
Nooooo!!!!!
Oh the horror......
Jason has and is doing a great job so far.....he's been impressive.
And Kornheiser is absolutley the WORST EVER in the monday night booth.
HE was singing the praises of Romo and talking how he was throwing the ball "Nicley" and haveing amnesia after the forst half....then Romom fumbles and he compares him to grossman with n a breath.
He wants to have Romos baby...but with Grossman giving a reacharound.
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Originally posted by RedTop
Kornheiser is absolutley the WORST EVER in the monday night booth.
HE was singing the praises of Romo and talking how he was throwing the ball "Nicley" and haveing amnesia after the forst half....then Romom fumbles and he compares him to grossman with n a breath.
He wants to have Romos baby...but with Grossman giving a reacharound.
You have completely forgotten about Joe Theissman, THE WORST ANNOUNCER EVAR.
2 Minute Warning.
[cue: Dandy Don]
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Originally posted by rpm
I haven't watched a single game live that Tony Romo has played this year. I plan on not watching as long as the streak holds out.
I hold myself completely responsable for tonight's preformance. :(
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Uno momento, por favor...
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Tick, tick, tick...
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(pre review) his knee was down before it came out
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(post review) bad call
The only call could have been lack of possession, but it looked like a good catch from here.
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IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wait, wtf????????
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Originally posted by rpm
IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!
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Bring on the KerryLovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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crazy f'in game.
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OMFG!!! Do they know I have a heart condition?
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Wow what a game!
Dallas earned it. A couple of non-calls hindered them even more than they were through the interceptions. Man..thats why I love football. And I was cheerin for the Bills!
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<- sits back lights up a Cuban Cohiba, takes a sip of 25yo Glenlivit and wonders what PATRIOTS is thinking right now. :rofl
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Originally posted by E25280
Lets see. The Cowboys beat:
The 2-2 Giants
The 0-4 Dolphins
The 1-3 Bears
The 0-4 Rams
Let's see how they do when they play a team with a winning record before we get all bandwagony.
And now the 1-3 (ok, 1-4 now) Bills.
The Cowboys offense looked absolutely beatable. Romo and TO each had a horrible game.
Good thing for them the Bills have no offense.
If they beat the Patriots, I'll have to agree they are for real. For now, I still have doubts.
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Originally posted by E25280
The Cowboys offense looked absolutely beatable. Romo and TO each had a horrible game.
And they won.:cool:
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Originally posted by rpm
<- sits back lights up a Cuban Cohiba, takes a sip of 25yo Glenlivit and wonders what PATRIOTS is thinking right now. :rofl
They are thinking...we aint Buffalo.
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Originally posted by rpm
And they won.:cool:
True . . . and I guess if the Bears could make it to the Superbowl last year (and they looked mostly awful all year, but always managed to pull a win out of their b-hinds), there is no reason why the Cowboys couldn't this year.
All of the NFC looks pretty weak compared to the top AFC teams.
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Originally posted by E25280
True . . . and I guess if the Bears could make it to the Superbowl last year (and they looked mostly awful all year, but always managed to pull a win out of their b-hinds), there is no reason why the Cowboys couldn't this year.
All of the NFC looks pretty weak compared to the top AFC teams.
You want to trade Grossman for Romo?
Nice try.:lol
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Originally posted by rpm
<- sits back lights up a Cuban Cohiba, takes a sip of 25yo Glenlivit and wonders what PATRIOTS is thinking right now. :rofl
Well first, they know you're smoking a Dutch Masters, and you're drinking Old Grandad whiskey.....second, they are game planning like they always do....
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Originally posted by Stringer
Well first, they know you're smoking a Dutch Masters, and you're drinking Old Grandad whiskey.....second, they are game planning like they always do....
I hear they are reviewing video...
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Originally posted by rpm
<- sits back lights up a Cuban Cohiba, takes a sip of 25yo Glenlivit and wonders what PATRIOTS is thinking right now. :rofl
Honestly, after tonights performance, I think the Patriots should be a lot less worried about next Sunday...They wont though because the architect won't let them!
38-14, Patriots....
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Wow!
I'm glad the Cowboys earned this one.
They'll need to be at the top of their game this Sunday.
All those Bills fans had their hearts broken twice with the re-kick.
:D
Woooooooot!!!!!!!1
<-----stiilllll shakeen...
:cool:
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Originally posted by rpm
You want to trade Grossman for Romo?
I wouldn't take a Chicago quarterback over anyone except . . . well . . . I wouldn't take one!
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I hear they are reviewing video...
Nahh...they moved on from that...they now have hired a team of folks with photographic memories....they then sit and review film with them and have them recall what defensive signals were sent in......kind of like charades..in a way...
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Originally posted by rpm
<- sits back lights up a Cuban Cohiba, takes a sip of 25yo Glenlivit and wonders what PATRIOTS is thinking right now. :rofl
Ya'll did'nt get that did ya?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Duh!!!...hehe..good one
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Originally posted by rpm
OMFG!!! Do they know I have a heart condition?
Upset my stomach. Had to down an emergency bowl of Homemade Vanilla:D
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I'm still having a hardtime slowing down my heart rate.
It's going to be a good week.
:)
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My brother won his fantasy game on Folk's 53 yard field goal. What a fun game to listen to(work), buddy at work had the Bills getting eleven and a half.
I think the bills screwed up when they had the ball with 46 seconds left in the first half. They try a 54 yard field goal instead of punting(buddy at work was losing his mind, :lol ), missing and giving the cowboys a short field. They drive and kick a field goal, swing of 3 or 6 points(if you count the fg attempt)
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9 points in 20 seconds...
It's gooooooooooooood(54 yards twice, mf)!!!!
(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/10/09/PH2007100900097.jpg)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I hear they are reviewing video...
lol, they can't, Goodell castro destroyed it all
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Dallas blew it on the first posession. They were thrown back on their heels and forced to play catch-up from the start.
Romo was off his game all night. Buffalo's secondary did a great job.
[Ripsnort]The Refs did all they could to help Buffalo[/Ripsnort] including a delay of game for spiking against "The Reciever Who's Name We Shall Not Mention" when all he did was drop the ball after the catch.
Overall, one of Dallas' better comebacks.
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Originally posted by rpm
[Ripsnort]The Refs did all they could to help Buffalo[/Ripsnort]
:rofl
Speaking of Rip and the SeaHawks...What happen this weekend Rip? Did the 12th man show up again?
:D
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Originally posted by soda72
:rofl
Speaking of Rip and the SeaHawks...What happen this weekend Rip? Did the 12th man show up again?
:D
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=216746&referrerid=3203
4th post down. ;)
Damn I'm good. :D
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Wow what a game!
Dallas earned it. A couple of non-calls hindered them even more than they were through the interceptions. Man..thats why I love football. And I was cheerin for the Bills!
Did the mexican actually hold ONTO to the ball for the field goal this time? :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by E25280
Lets see. The Cowboys beat:
The 2-2 Giants
The 0-4 Dolphins
The 1-3 Bears
The 0-4 Rams
Let's see how they do when they play a team with a winning record before we get all bandwagony.
And the Pats beat:
The 1-4 Jets
The 2-3 Chargers
The 1-4 Bills
The 2-3 Browns
The 1-3 Bengals
Next weeks game should be fun to watch !
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Originally posted by Krusher
And the Pats beat:
The 1-4 Jets
The 2-3 Chargers
The 1-4 Bills
The 2-3 Browns
The 1-3 Bengals
Next weeks game should be fun to watch !
For anyone to say that the Patriots are not an incredible team this season is either A) Too blinded by their own team to admit another team is great, or B) Has no idea about the game of football.
To say the Pats are not one of the top, if not the top team in the NFL, is like saying Peyton Manning sucks, and to do that, you don't know jack about football and prolly have never played.
The Patriots win next week and its not even going to be close...The Patriots defense is playing awesome thus far, and i'll gurantee at least 2 INT's by Romo...T.O. will be T.O. and do a whole lot of nothing...Sure, he may make 1 big play on a 45 yard catch, but the remainder of his time in will be a lot of the same old; dropping balls or catching them out of bounds...
I gotta give a lot of respect to Marion Barber though...Fun player to watch...As well as Jason Witten....
For next weeks game being two 5-0 teams, I just dont think its going to be as good of a game as some people think it will be. Very lopsided IMO and the Pats just outclass the Cowboys in every area.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Honestly, after tonights performance, I think the Patriots should be a lot less worried about next Sunday...They wont though because the architect won't let them!
38-14, Patriots....
You mean the hoodie wearing unibomber looking guy they call coach?:D
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Dallas? Are the Cowboys still playing football?
(Incognito Washington Redskins endurer :noid )
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Dam...they won last night...lucky 2 pt conversion, lucky onside...lucky catch to get them close enough for a field goal...
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Dam...they won last night...lucky 2 pt conversion, lucky onside...lucky catch to get them close enough for a field goal...
did you even watch the game? They failed on the 2pt conversion (not sure I would call that lucky) and it was a short pass to the flats to get them in range.
I have always been a Cowboys fan, but if it came down to betting I wouldn't pick them next week. Pats are a very good team, hitting strong in all categories right now. If Cowboys play to their potential, it should be a good game. If they play like the other night, Pats win huge.
My son is Pats fan. Sunday flying in to go to the game with a buddy of mine from Dallas that has four season tickets. Regardless who wins, it will most definitely be memorable.
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Who said anything about the quality of the Pats?
Originally posted by cav58d
For anyone to say that the Patriots are not an incredible team this season is either A) Too blinded by their own team to admit another team is great, or B) Has no idea about the game of football.
To say the Pats are not one of the top, if not the top team in the NFL, is like saying Peyton Manning sucks, and to do that, you don't know jack about football and prolly have never played.
The Patriots win next week and its not even going to be close...The Patriots defense is playing awesome thus far, and i'll gurantee at least 2 INT's by Romo...T.O. will be T.O. and do a whole lot of nothing...Sure, he may make 1 big play on a 45 yard catch, but the remainder of his time in will be a lot of the same old; dropping balls or catching them out of bounds...
I gotta give a lot of respect to Marion Barber though...Fun player to watch...As well as Jason Witten....
For next weeks game being two 5-0 teams, I just dont think its going to be as good of a game as some people think it will be. Very lopsided IMO and the Pats just outclass the Cowboys in every area.
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It looked like you were implying that the Pats are only where they are because of the poor calibre of their opponents thus far.
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Originally posted by cav58d
It looked like you were implying that the Pats are only where they are because of the poor calibre of their opponents thus far.
Naa, I was replying to E25280's post. It was more of a pot-kettle thing.
Both teams have not played anyone with a winning record., but next week should be fun.
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source (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_stunned_by_mere_17_point)
BOSTON—The Patriots organization is reeling this week following their narrow 34-17 victory over the lowly Browns, taking stock of their game-planning methods, philosophy, and indeed their entire season in the aftermath of a game in which they gained barely more than 500 total yards, came within seconds of failing to cover the spread, and scored only twice as much as their opponent.
"I think it's too early to call the season a failure," said visibly shaken Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, who was called into the office of owner Robert Kraft Monday morning and officially placed on probation in light of the insufficiently dominant victory. "I wish to extend my deepest apologies to the Patriots fans and ask them to continue supporting the players and the team. All the blame for Sunday's victory has to lie with me."
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Originally posted by rpm
OMFG!!! Do they know I have a heart condition?
i know i had 12 heart attacks in the last quarter
was afraid the cops would get called me and my friends were screaming so loud at 11 at night in a apartment complex
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Originally posted by rpm
You have completely forgotten about Joe Theissman, THE WORST ANNOUNCER EVAR.
2 Minute Warning.
[cue: Dandy Don]
Nah, worst ever is actually 3.
Well 4 if you include Dandy Don
Those three would be the current Monday Night Football crew.
The crew that SHOULD be doing MNF are the ones they go to at halftime.
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Originally posted by E25280
All of the NFC looks pretty weak compared to the top AFC teams.
Patriots 48 - Cowboys 27.
Cowboys might still end up top of the NFC, but I would suspect a similar result in any super bowl from what I have seen so far this year.
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Hehehehe
My only regret was not seeing Jones sulking in his box. He must have gone home early.
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TO got KO'ed.
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Originally posted by BigGun
did you even watch the game? They failed on the 2pt conversion (not sure I would call that lucky) and it was a short pass to the flats to get them in range.
Yes, I watched it.
Romo threw it to TO for a 2 pt and TO caught it. Then they went for an onside and got it back. Then Romo threw it to TO to get them in range. Then Kicker got the field goal with 3 secs left.
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update........
new england 48, cowgirls 27. film at 11.
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ya give the zebras 20 points ... I don't mind losing but the officiating was godawful.
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Originally posted by E25280
Patriots 48 - Cowboys 27.
Cowboys might still end up top of the NFC, but I would suspect a similar result in any super bowl from what I have seen so far this year.
so?
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you mean like offensive pass interference against moss that called back a NE touchdown?
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officiating had nothing to do with the Pats win...And TO is a freaking joke...Of course he has talent, but I dont see that talent as much better than any other starting WR in the NFL...
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
ya give the zebras 20 points ... I don't mind losing but the officiating was godawful.
In reply to johns comments, was it also like when the Brady-Moss TD was reversed on challenge?
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Patriots rock..... Dallas, a powerful Offense, put up only 20 points against the Pats.
Sweet.
That said, I think too many people are looking beyond Indianapolis. I will be happy when that game is behind the Pats.
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Originally posted by Krusher
Naa, I was replying to E25280's post. It was more of a pot-kettle thing.
Both teams have not played anyone with a winning record., but next week should be fun.
Just caught this one.
For the record, I hate the Pats. They are 6-0 now, and nothing would please me more than seeing them go 6-10.
But, they actually had a winning record, unlike any other opponent Dallas had beaten to that point.
My point was that they had thus far only won against mediocre-to-very poor teams, and they hadn't been tested. Since the Patriots actually had a winning record, if they won I would have to withdraw the statement that they had only beaten bad teams. So, I don't see the Pot-Kettle thing you are talking about.
But, since the Patriots whooped 'em, I am instead able to re-iterate that they (the Cowboys) have not yet accomplished much in my mind.
Unfortunately for the NFC, the Cowboys still look like the top team of the conference. I don't see anyone in the conference able to match up to the Patriots, Colts, or even the inexplicably sucky-looking Chargers for that matter.
There are still many weeks left in the season, so who knows what will happen. But I thought a couple weeks ago the Cowboys bandwagon was leaving a bit early, and still do.
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
ya give the zebras 20 points ... I don't mind losing but the officiating was godawful.
Although I think that particular officiating crew is one of the worst out there, I don't think anything they did had a significant effect on the outcome of the game.
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Originally posted by Slash27
so?
What?
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Originally posted by cav58d
officiating had nothing to do with the Pats win...And TO is a freaking joke...Of course he has talent, but I dont see that talent as much better than any other starting WR in the NFL...
TO was one of the only people that could easily catch (Sir ****up) McNabb's passes. That makes him godly by default.
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It hurts but this is what they need to keep there heads out of the clouds.
the game sumed up (http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=4637990&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.3.1)
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i knew we were going to lose that game i know you are always supposed to have faith in your team but i saw a defeat coming
but next week when we beat Minnesota and we go into our bi-week 6-1 it aint as good as it can be but hey ill take it :D
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I agree with that one. I just hope we go to the super bowl this year.
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I didn't see the game, but from the box score it looks like Dallas gave it away on penalties.
I think they were still reeling from the Buffalo game.
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Dallas gave it away because they couldn't cover the NE receivers.
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The Patriots have become the Rams, their defense could not stop the Cowboys. Their defense better start making plays or Indy is gonna make them look silly. Romo is good, but he's no Manning.
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Originally posted by cav58d
For anyone to say that the Patriots are not an incredible team this season is either A) Too blinded by their own team to admit another team is great, or B) Has no idea about the game of football.
To say the Pats are not one of the top, if not the top team in the NFL, is like saying Peyton Manning sucks, and to do that, you don't know jack about football and prolly have never played.
The Patriots win next week and its not even going to be close...The Patriots defense is playing awesome thus far, and i'll gurantee at least 2 INT's by Romo...T.O. will be T.O. and do a whole lot of nothing...Sure, he may make 1 big play on a 45 yard catch, but the remainder of his time in will be a lot of the same old; dropping balls or catching them out of bounds...
I gotta give a lot of respect to Marion Barber though...Fun player to watch...As well as Jason Witten....
For next weeks game being two 5-0 teams, I just dont think its going to be as good of a game as some people think it will be. Very lopsided IMO and the Pats just outclass the Cowboys in every area.
You nailed that one, do you have the lottery numbers for next week :aok
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Originally posted by Sixpence
The Patriots have become the Rams, their defense could not stop the Cowboys. Their defense better start making plays or Indy is gonna make them look silly. Romo is good, but he's no Manning.
That's retarded (no offense to any you retards out there).
Currently, the Pats have the 2nd best defense in the NFL based on yards, and 6th best based on scoring.
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Originally posted by myelo
That's retarded (no offense to any you retards out there).
Currently, the Pats have the 2nd best defense in the NFL based on yards, and 6th best based on scoring.
so they're not #1, there is room for improvement! :aok :rofl
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Originally posted by myelo
Currently, the Pats have the 2nd best defense in the NFL based on yards, and 6th best based on scoring.
wouldn't one typically follow the other? unless the Pat's have the worst special teams ever?
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Originally posted by myelo
That's retarded (no offense to any you retards out there).
Currently, the Pats have the 2nd best defense in the NFL based on yards, and 6th best based on scoring.
It's not retarted(no offense to you retards out there).
First of all, those statistics are very misleading. If your offense is controlling the ball twice as long as the other team, then your defense can be average, just not be on the field very long.
If you take the time of possession against the defense and double that into the defensive statistics, then the defense is not near the top.
The cowboys moved the ball very well when they had it.
It's easy to be good on defense when your offense is ripping off nine minute drives. One of these days the offense will not put up 20 points and the defense is going to have to step up.
They are giving up four yards a carry, ranked 17th and have given up nine passing TD's, tied for 21st. They are also last in red zone defense
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Originally posted by Sixpence
It's not retarted(no offense to you retards out there).
First of all, those statistics are very misleading. If your offense is controlling the ball twice as long as the other team, then your defense can be average, just not be on the field very long.
If you take the time of possession against the defense and double that into the defensive statistics, then the defense is not near the top.
The cowboys moved the ball very well when they had it.
It's easy to be good on defense when your offense is ripping off nine minute drives. One of these days the offense will not put up 20 points and the defense is going to have to step up.
They are giving up four yards a carry, ranked 17th and have given up nine passing TD's, tied for 21st. They are also last in red zone defense
The Patriots Defense let up 2 touchdowns and two field goals to a team who on average nearly doubled that in the 5 previous games......I'd say the Pats Defense is looking pretty damn good this year.
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Originally posted by cav58d
The Patriots Defense let up 2 touchdowns and two field goals to a team who on average nearly doubled that in the 5 previous games......I'd say the Pats Defense is looking pretty damn good this year.
:huh
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Hey, How about the play of this kid this week?
Adrian Peterson (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29272&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2007&week=REG6)
Imagine what he could do if they had a passing game the defence had to worry about :O
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Originally posted by cav58d
The Patriots Defense let up 2 touchdowns and two field goals to a team who on average nearly doubled that in the 5 previous games......I'd say the Pats Defense is looking pretty damn good this year.
I don't quite understand the logic there, but to steal a quote from the coach, "it is what it is". And what it is is that they are giving up four yards a carry(17th), have given up nine td passes(21st) and are dead last in red zone defense.
How you get a pretty good defense out of that is beyond me.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
The cowboys moved the ball very well when they had it.
Oh really?
According to my cipherin' they had drives of:
4 yd
-12 yd
4 yd
-8 yd
18 yd
0 yd
-1 yd
They only had 3 drives over 20 yds. The main way they were moving the ball was punting it.
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Coming into the game the Cowboys offense averaged 33 points a game...The Pats D held their offense to 20. On 11 third down attempts, the Pats held them to only 4 conversions, and forced a pick. Of course Dallas was going to drive the ball, and get points on the board; they are the best team in the NFC, and the best the Pats have been matched up against so far.
That said, the Pats defense did pretty damn good if you ask me.
They might not be the biggest, but the Pats have arguabally the smartest linebacker crew in the NFL...Furthermore, there D line is nothing to over look. Only potential problem I see (especially against a team like the colts) is their secondary, but as soon as players like Asaunte Samuel (lasy year was tied for # 1 in INT's) and Rodney Harrison (all pro) step it up, the Pats will be unstopable.
I really dont think there is a team in the NFL this season that can beat the Pats...Not even the Colts...And it's because every player on the field is a mini belichick. They demand perfection each and every down...Doesn't matter if the play results in a first down, a TD or a pick, if a play isn't perfect, the players will recognize, and make damn sure they fix it....Thats what Belichick does...He takes average athletes, and makes them winning players through attiude and determination...
I played football for 9 years of my life...I was good, but I never had any star qualitys...That said, I gave 200% every down I played, and demanded perfection, and I ended up making, and starting Varsity from my Sophmore year on. Skill is important, but what you demand of yourself is even more so, and that Patriots just have it.
SUPER BOWL BABY!:aok
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Originally posted by cav58d
I really dont think there is a team in the NFL this season that can beat the Pats...Not even the Colts...And it's because every player on the field is a mini belichick. They demand perfection each and every down...Doesn't matter if the play results in a first down, a TD or a pick, if a play isn't perfect, the players will recognize, and make damn sure they fix it....Thats what Belichick does...He takes average athletes, and makes them winning players through attiude and determination...
SUPER BOWL BABY!:aok
Almost sounds like what people were saying about Rams in what? 2000? I think they were 6-0 and then lost in week seven. I would concur that Pats are playing better than anyone else right now. However, in the NFL any team can beat another team on any given Sunday. All it takes is for a few key players to have an off day.
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Originally posted by BigGun
Almost sounds like what people were saying about Rams in what? 2000? I think they were 6-0 and then lost in week seven. I would concur that Pats are playing better than anyone else right now. However, in the NFL any team can beat another team on any given Sunday. All it takes is for a few key players to have an off day.
I'll agree with that...Look at the Miami Dolphins beating the Pats 2 years ago. Hell, look at college football this year!
By the way, as soon as Uconn knocks off Louisville and then South Florida, get ready to welcome us to the BCS!....Man, that would be freaking awesome if Uconn could beat Florida.........drooool.
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Originally posted by myelo
Oh really?
According to my cipherin' they had drives of:
4 yd
-12 yd
4 yd
-8 yd
18 yd
0 yd
-1 yd
They only had 3 drives over 20 yds. The main way they were moving the ball was punting it.
Here is a chart to help (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/drivechart?gameId=271014006). Aside from the int at the end, they scored on 50% of their drives, 2 field goals, three TD's, five punts. They did that in only 21:45, and you think that's bad?
You show me misleading stats to say the Pats defense is good. I show you stats the are far more relevant to show that the defensive is not good.
Again, they give up four yards a carry, and you could make an argument that it could be misleading(yards given up at end of game when you are preventing deep passes) if not for the other stats. They have given up nine TD passes(tied for 21st in the league) and are last in red zone defense.
The patriot defenses in the past got very stingy at the goal line, they were usually near the top in red zone defense. Teams like the Dolphins, Bengals, Bills and Falcons have better red zone defenses.
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Dallas came into the game averaging 405.2 Total Yards/game with 274 passing and 130.5 rushing with an average of 4.9 per rush.
The Patriots held them to 283 total yards, with 173 being passing and 97 rushing with an average of 6.5 yards per carry.
OF COURSE THE COWBOYS WERE GOING TO COME IN THIS GAME AND PUT POINTS ON THE BOARD! THEY ARE/WERE A HIGH POWERED OFFENSE WHO COULDN"T MEET A SINGLE OFFENSIVE AVERAGE AGAINST THE PATRIOTS DEFENSE LAST WEEK.
Oh and by the way...The Pats defense is # 2 in fewest rushing ypg and 4 in passing.
I don't know what other proof you need man. Are you sure you are watching football? England and France had a rugby game on tv right about the time of the Dallas Pats game...Are you sure you were'nt watching that? I know it can be confusing.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Oh and by the way...The Pats defense is # 2 in fewest rushing ypg and 4 in passing.
I don't know what other proof you need man. Are you sure you are watching football? England and France had a rugby game on tv right about the time of the Dallas Pats game...Are you sure you were'nt watching that? I know it can be confusing.
The Patriots are dead last in red zone defense, give up four yards a carry(17th) and have given up 9 TD passes(tied for 21st)
fewest rushing yards and 4th in passing yards doesn't mean a thing. If your offense has a 2-1 advantage in time of possession, your defense will give up few total yards.
If you know football as you say you do, you would know that
Oh, and btw, you said this:
Originally posted by cav58d
97 rushing with an average of 6.5 yards per carry.
6.5 yards a carry is good?? If you equal the time of possession, that's 150 yards rushing, that's bad
OF COURSE THE COWBOYS WERE GOING TO COME IN THIS GAME AND PUT POINTS ON THE BOARD! THEY ARE/WERE A HIGH POWERED OFFENSE WHO COULDN"T MEET A SINGLE OFFENSIVE AVERAGE AGAINST THE PATRIOTS DEFENSE LAST WEEK.
The Cowboys are averaging over 6.5 yards a carry?? Holy ****!!
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I don't quite understand the logic there, but to steal a quote from the coach, "it is what it is". And what it is is that they are giving up four yards a carry(17th), have given up nine td passes(21st) and are dead last in red zone defense.
How you get a pretty good defense out of that is beyond me.
Lol..
You don't watch Patriots games, do you?
As you said, stats are misleading...
Also, you're going to have to recognize that the NFL is moving away from shut-them-down defences and turning to high powered offences. The Pats have one of the best linebacking corps and a couple of the best safety's/cornerbacks in the league.
Baseball is all about stats. Football is not. Football is far more emotional and based off momentum than compared to any other sport.
I'll take a defence that can shut down a team on 3rd and shorts more than not but gives up 4 yards a carry any day of the week.
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Originally posted by Tattered
Lol..
You don't watch Patriots games, do you?
Almost every one since 1976, you?
Also, you're going to have to recognize that the NFL is moving away from shut-them-down defences and turning to high powered offences.
Last year's bears were one of the best defenses in awhile, Baltimore, San Diego and New Englands weren't bad either. You have a source for that statement? Didn't think so
The Pats have one of the best linebacking corps and a couple of the best safety's/cornerbacks in the league.
So good it is last in the league in red zone defense. Linebackers are one of if not the oldest in the NFL, anyone remember gassed linebackers chasing Dallas Clark in an AFC championship game?
Baseball is all about stats. Football is not. Football is far more emotional and based off momentum than compared to any other sport.
And that is relevant too? Are you suggesting the rest of the NFL doesn't play with emotion?
You are a homer, and ditch the shades man
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Almost every one since 1976, you?
Oh, I've seen every single football game... ever....
Last year's bears were one of the best defenses in awhile, Baltimore, San Diego and New Englands weren't bad either. You have a source for that statement? Didn't think so
My source is every team to win the Superbowl in the last 15 years other than Tampa Bay.
Oh, that and ten minute conversation they had about it during The Pats and Cowboys game. I'm surprised you missed it, considering you've seen almost every game since 1902.
So good it is last in the league in red zone defense. Linebackers are one of if not the oldest in the NFL, anyone remember gassed linebackers chasing Dallas Clark in an AFC championship game?
I do agree that they do have one of the oldest linebacker corps playing.. But, I also know they have one of the smartest and versatile. You keep bringing up the fact the pats are last in the league in redzone defense, yet you seem to pass by the fact they they allow less points in a game than almost any other team. Think about it, big guy. The less times a team is in the red zone, the more the percentage will go up when a team does score. So if you're only allowing a team into the redzone two times and they score a touchdown once.. I'm sure you can figure it out on your own....
And that is relevant too? Are you suggesting the rest of the NFL doesn't play with emotion?It has about as much relevence as everything you've said in your prior posts. If you believe, anyone, by the numbers, would have thought the pats would do what they did the left 7 years, well dude, you're as dumb as you sound. Spilling fodder onto a forum about a topic you don't seem to think much about really just makes you sound ignorant.
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Considering the Cowboys have a new coach and quaterback they're doing better than I'd hoped for. We may be facing another dynasty like the early '90's. :)
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Originally posted by Tattered
My source is every team to win the Superbowl in the last 15 years other than Tampa Bay.
Huh? have you been paying attention to the Pats defense the past several years? They won their SB's on defense, speaking of which, isn't the defensive game plan from SB XXXVI enshrined in the hall of fame? Again, show me a source
You keep bringing up the fact the pats are last in the league in redzone defense, yet you seem to pass by the fact they they allow less points in a game than almost any other team. Think about it, big guy. The less times a team is in the red zone, the more the percentage will go up when a team does score. So if you're only allowing a team into the redzone two times and they score a touchdown once.. I'm sure you can figure it out on your own....
98% is 98%, no matter how you slice it, just because the offense keeps time of possession twice as long to disguise bigger numbers, it will never change the %, I think you can figure that out
If you believe, anyone, by the numbers, would have thought the pats would do what they did the left 7 years, well dude, you're as dumb as you sound. Spilling fodder onto a forum about a topic you don't seem to think much about really just makes you sound ignorant
I don't quite understand what the left is(and spilling fodder? lol!), maybe you can help with my ignorance. And if you think Bill Belichick cares what they did in the past, forget it, he doesn't live in the past as you do. What their defense is doing this year has nothing to do with any other year.
"It is what it is", words to live by, and the defense is not playing up to championship level, and the stats show that.
If you want to be a homer, stick your head in the sand and banter foolishly, be my guest
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Originally posted by Sixpence
My source is every team to win the Superbowl in the last 15 years other than Tampa Bay.
Huh? have you been paying attention to the Pats defense the past several years? They won their SB's on defense, speaking of which, isn't the defensive game plan from SB XXXVI enshrined in the hall of fame? Again, show me a source
You keep bringing up the fact the pats are last in the league in redzone defense, yet you seem to pass by the fact they they allow less points in a game than almost any other team. Think about it, big guy. The less times a team is in the red zone, the more the percentage will go up when a team does score. So if you're only allowing a team into the redzone two times and they score a touchdown once.. I'm sure you can figure it out on your own....
98% is 98%, no matter how you slice it, just because the offense keeps time of possession twice as long to disguise bigger numbers, it will never change the %, I think you can figure that out
If you believe, anyone, by the numbers, would have thought the pats would do what they did the left 7 years, well dude, you're as dumb as you sound. Spilling fodder onto a forum about a topic you don't seem to think much about really just makes you sound ignorant
I don't quite understand what the left is(and spilling fodder? lol!), maybe you can help with my ignorance. And if you think Bill Belichick cares what they did in the past, forget it, he doesn't live in the past as you do. What their defense is doing this year has nothing to do with any other year.
"It is what it is", words to live by, and the defense is not playing up to championship level, and the stats show that.
If you want to be a homer, stick your head in the sand and banter foolishly, be my guest
Ya, I'm done here. You haven't made any points, at all. You've based a whole argument off one or two statistics.
All you've said this whole time is that The Patriots don't have the number 1 defense in the league.
Congratz?
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Originally posted by Tattered
Ya, I'm done here. You haven't made any points, at all. You've based a whole argument off one or two statistics.
All you've said this whole time is that The Patriots don't have the number 1 defense in the league.
Congratz?
My point from the start was comparing them to the 2001 rams, where if the ram offense got stagnant, the defense could be exposed.
Then some jumped in with total yards and points, which doesn't give as accurate assessment of the defense as some other stats do.
Here (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats;jsessionid=09F503A403C074D6E202C14508D2F556?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-s=TIME_OF_POSS_SECONDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-n=1&season=2007&qualified=false&Submit=Find&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1) are some stats from nfl.com. The Patriots spend the least amount of time on defense(because the offense is controlling the clock) Now you combine that with the other stats I mentioned(and a few more I could mention) and you realize that if the offense gets stymied, the defense could be in trouble. That's what happened in last year's AFC title game(They also gave up 5.4 yrds a carry to LT, and would have lost if not for a troy brown strip of a Brady intercept)
We lost to the Colts because our defense could not keep up anymore, and if the Colts can stymie the offense enough to keep time of possession close to equal, they can beat us again.
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Originally posted by Sixpence
The Patriots spend the least amount of time on defense(because the offense is controlling the clock)
If you limit the other team's offense to 3 and out, you tend not to spend a lot of time on defense.
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Originally posted by myelo
If you limit the other team's offense to 3 and out, you tend not to spend a lot of time on defense.
That would mean something if the stats showed they hold offenses to 3 and out, which they don't. If you are 12th in TD's given up while spending the least amount of time on the field, that doesn't quite equate to holding opponents to 3 and out.
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Originally posted by rpm
I haven't watched a single game live that Tony Romo has played this year. I plan on not watching as long as the streak holds out.
BTW, Romo MAY be the real deal. I'm talking Staubach real.
I highly doubt he could hold a candle to Staubach. It is way to early to make this comparison. Looking at his stats this year 9 interceptions highlighted by a six turnover game against the lowly Buffalo Bills. Oh and by the way the Patriots spanked them. I agree the Cowboys are most likely to end up the cream of the crop in the NFC, but the AFC will win the superbowl yet again. Tony Romo is good, but he is no Staubach.
My 2 cents.
Spazz
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Originally posted by Krusher
And the Pats beat:
The 1-4 Jets
The 2-3 Chargers
The 1-4 Bills
The 2-3 Browns
The 1-3 Bengals
Next weeks game should be fun to watch !
Yes, but they beat them all by 20 plus points.
<>
Spazz
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Originally posted by cav58d
I played football for 9 years of my life...I was good, but I never had any star qualitys...That said, I gave 200% every down I played, and demanded perfection, and I ended up making, and starting Varsity from my Sophmore year on. Skill is important, but what you demand of yourself is even more so, and that Patriots just have it.
SUPER BOWL BABY!:aok
WTG RUDY!!!!!!
Spazz
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Yes, I watched it.
Romo threw it to TO for a 2 pt and TO caught it. Then they went for an onside and got it back. Then Romo threw it to TO to get them in range. Then Kicker got the field goal with 3 secs left.
Absolutely incorrect & false. TO did not catch the 2 pt conversion. Anyone who watched the game would know this. Had he caught it the game would have been tied. That is what lead to the onside kick and the last second field goal to win by 1.
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BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HOW 'BOUT THOSE COWBOYS!!!!!!!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E!!!!!
:rofl
GO PACK!
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Way to go bumping a dead thread? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HOW 'BOUT THOSE COWBOYS!!!!!!!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E!!!!!
:rofl
GO PACK!
Seriously dude, we get it.
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Originally posted by Wes14
Way to go bumping a dead thread? :rolleyes:
Blahahahahah! Call Skuzzy.... Blahahahahahaha!
Go Pack!
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lol, teh funneh
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HOW 'BOUT THOSE COWBOYS!!!!!!!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E!!!!!
:rofl
GO PACK!
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
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Those who smite with a kicker, perish by a kicker.
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Originally posted by Slash27
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
I was saying "Go Pack". you know the Packers? They are the team that wears Green and gold and advanced farther in the playoffs than the Cowboys.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I was saying "Go Pack". you know the Packers? They are the team that wears Green and gold and advanced farther in the playoffs than the Cowboys.
The team that wears green and gold and will be watching the Super Bowl on TV with the Cowboys.
"BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E!!!!!"
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This just in... Tony Romo and Brett Farve are BOTH going to the Super Bowl.
They bought a package deal thru Expedia.
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is the bimbo coming?
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Originally posted by Slash27
is the bimbo coming?
Isn't that something you should be asking Tony?
LAWLZ
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Originally posted by Slash27
The team that wears green and gold and will be watching the Super Bowl on TV with the Cowboys.
"BLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E!!!!!"
They advanced farther than the Cowboys.
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no ****
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This just in:
Cowboys STILL suck with Romo as QB. I've told you guys this for years, but you keep pointing the finger at Jones.
When are 'y'all' gonna figure it out? Romo is not the answer. :rofl :rofl