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Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: WolfSnipe on October 07, 2007, 07:49:24 AM
how do they like how the areanas have different tours so now they cant go and score potato in green and seem like they are good in LW AHAHA:D

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Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Kazaa on October 07, 2007, 08:00:38 AM
Good post :aok
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Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2007, 08:03:58 AM
We still have an underpopulated LW arena at off-peak times. No problem, Sir! :aok
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Post by: Kazaa on October 07, 2007, 09:04:50 AM
Even better post :aok
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Post by: yanksfan on October 07, 2007, 09:30:38 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
We still have an underpopulated LW arena at off-peak times. No problem, Sir! :aok


:rofl
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Post by: BaldEagl on October 07, 2007, 09:47:19 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
We still have an underpopulated LW arena at off-peak times. No problem, Sir! :aok


Wish I'd get to see that.  I only get to play during prime time (and still do ok score-whoring).
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Post by: Sketch on October 07, 2007, 10:09:59 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Wish I'd get to see that.  I only get to play during prime time (and still do ok score-whoring).

When I lived over in Italy for 4 years, I ran into the problem of lack of numbers during my "prime time to fly".  Flying with guys like Kazaa, Lusche, Batfink, Trikky and all the other Euro guys it was tough to get a good front line fight going.  But you did learn how to fight one on one pretty well. When I came back to the state it wa slike learning to fly all over again as the target that was 1 or two planes.... it multiplied like gremlins and I had about 10 to fight then.  It almost takes a differen flying style in a sense to fly in th Euro area compaired to stateside... just my .02  
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Post by: Shuffler on October 07, 2007, 11:12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Sketch
When I lived over in Italy for 4 years, I ran into the problem of lack of numbers during my "prime time to fly".  Flying with guys like Kazaa, Lusche, Batfink, Trikky and all the other Euro guys it was tough to get a good front line fight going.  But you did learn how to fight one on one pretty well. When I came back to the state it wa slike learning to fly all over again as the target that was 1 or two planes.... it multiplied like gremlins and I had about 10 to fight then.  It almost takes a differen flying style in a sense to fly in th Euro area compaired to stateside... just my .02  


Interesting obsevation and well said.
Title: Re: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: VansCrew1 on October 07, 2007, 11:29:43 AM
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Originally posted by WolfSnipe
how do they like how the areanas have different tours so now they cant go and score potato in green and seem like they are good in LW AHAHA:D



i love it Haxer is not even close to the top :aok :aok.
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Post by: Spikes on October 07, 2007, 12:24:02 PM
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
i love it Haxer is not even close to the top :aok :aok.


Coming from the score potato himself...
Title: I like what I see so far !
Post by: Phil on October 07, 2007, 12:39:00 PM
Being a MIDWAR player, I like what's goin' on !
I'm seing NEW players poping in obviously trying to keep up with scores !

I've be looking into previous tours and paying attention to "FIGHTER" ranks of the pilots I have just encountered.(some of them were TOP RANKS !)
Being just an average stick, win or lose I gave them a good scrap !

Well guys, some of those boys getting top scores in late arenas have a hard time fighting a 1 vs 1 scenario !
I think that can only conclude that reality is hiting them hard. They find out that their fighting skills need some polishing !  :lol
Cherry picking and getting cheap victories in late war populated arenas is sometimes different in MID and Early war. No friends to set'em up for ya !
No friends to save your butt !:lol

I'm saying this with respect ! Many top sticks are good whatever arena they play :aok
But there's a good bunch outhere that when they encounter any risk, they fly away and never look back !

Anyway, I hope this move keeps on bringing new players !

WTG HTC !

Phil
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Latrobe on October 07, 2007, 01:12:15 PM
Why do I have a feeling that it's gonna be H2H all over again?

(In the Wishlost forum)
Thread - Scores

"HT what's the deal? Why'd you seperate the scores? I'm not being ranked #1 in LW anymore. Go back to having scores set the same for all arenas so I can look cool in the LW! :mad: "

:lol
Title: Re: I like what I see so far !
Post by: bj229r on October 07, 2007, 01:36:33 PM
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Originally posted by Phil
Being a MIDWAR player, I like what's goin' on !
I'm seing NEW players poping in obviously trying to keep up with scores !

I've be looking into previous tours and paying attention to "FIGHTER" ranks of the pilots I have just encountered.(some of them were TOP RANKS !)
Being just an average stick, win or lose I gave them a good scrap !

Well guys, some of those boys getting top scores in late arenas have a hard time fighting a 1 vs 1 scenario !
I think that can only conclude that reality is hiting them hard. They find out that their fighting skills need some polishing !  :lol
Cherry picking and getting cheap victories in late war populated arenas is sometimes different in MID and Early war. No friends to set'em up for ya !
No friends to save your butt !:lol

I'm saying this with respect ! Many top sticks are good whatever arena they play :aok
But there's a good bunch outhere that when they encounter any risk, they fly away and never look back !

Anyway, I hope this move keeps on bringing new players !

WTG HTC !

Phil

I musta popped into Mw at the wromg time...the last 3 times I've been in there---90% the people there are hording undefended bases in a largely empty arena
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Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2007, 02:32:27 PM
Another way to help deter that is to go into those arenas at those times & make them work for it by fighting them. Sounds like a bunch of whining in here to me. Y'all man-up & do something about it if you don't like the milk-runners.
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Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2007, 02:38:32 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Another way to help deter that is to go into those arenas at those times & make them work for it by fighting them. Sounds like a bunch of whining in here to me. Y'all man-up & do something about it if you don't like the milk-runners.


It's not alway easy to do and can be a bit frustrating at times. Yesterday I had three fruitless sorties. A tank ditching when he saw me upping, bombers turning back when noticing my darbar, one fighter circling 5k above my base running back when he saw me on runway ;)

Fact is, with such a low population, you can't force a fight. It's always possible to attack at the other front, and you can switch only once per hour.
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Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2007, 02:40:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
It's not alway easy to do and can be a bit frustrating at times. Yesterday I had three fruitless sorties. A tank ditching when he saw me upping, bombers turning back when noticing my darbar, one fighter circling 5k above my base running back when he saw me on runway ;)
 


Lusche, that wasn't fruitless at all. You stopped the milk-running.:)
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Post by: bj229r on October 07, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Lusche, that wasn't fruitless at all. You stopped the milk-running.:)
Nah, he just made them shift targets...which is SOMEwhat satisfying, but the goal is some sort fight between PEOPLE, and it's obviously not a shared goal
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Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2007, 02:49:07 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Lusche, that wasn't fruitless at all. You stopped the milk-running.:)


No I didn't because they went to the other front. And by the way, it wasn't exactly my genuine intention to stop them, or to pi** someone off. Everybody can milk all day if they like. I just wanted to fight and kill.

In the end, we both could have been a bit frustrated: They didn't get any bombing or capture points, but I didn't get any kills either :(
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Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2007, 02:51:44 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
No I didn't because they went to the other front. And by the way, it wasn't exactly my genuine intention to stop them, or to pi** someone of.f  
 OIC ~ when they meet opposition from one team, they switch to the other front.  Yeah, I guess I can see where that would get frustrating if they don't fight at all.

And, OIC, it's not the base capturing portion of milk-running that y'all don't like... it's the turning from a fight part that y'all don't like.
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Post by: bj229r on October 07, 2007, 03:40:04 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
OIC ~ when they meet opposition from one team, they switch to the other front.  Yeah, I guess I can see where that would get frustrating if they don't fight at all.

And, OIC, it's not the base capturing portion of milk-running that y'all don't like... it's the turning from a fight part that y'all don't like.
yup.:furious , but at least HT gets their money, so it's not a total loss
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: LYNX on October 07, 2007, 06:37:09 PM
Well.... for me at least it's business as usual.  I only play the late wars and I only log into the most populated, as I've always done.  Still commanding CV's except my rank seems a little higher than normal:D and I only have 1 base capture.

Obviously the ones that have played for rank since the split arenas are erm, fading a little.  Those of us with rank knowledge from the old 1 MA system seem to be fairing a little better but then again schools not out:rofl
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Post by: Platano on October 07, 2007, 07:20:57 PM
AHHHAAAAA!!!
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Post by: SFCHONDO on October 07, 2007, 08:16:56 PM
Why you guys even worry about the Scorepotatos? Why even have a thread about them. You all say score doesn't matter to you, but you spend hours complaining about them. Why even give a crap about the top ranked guys, let him have his rank if that turns him on....You guys complaining about them seem more pathetic then the scorepotatos themselves. Sorry I just don't get why you all care so much.
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Post by: WaRLoCkL on October 07, 2007, 08:36:57 PM
LOL well I have never been higher than 10th in fighter rank, and now im sitting in the number 2 spot:) I am doing nothing different than i normally do. LOL i think its pretty funny, it does show that there is a problem with the score system all togethere though,

I think it should work like chess, u should have a rating system. like a ladder, and depending on who u shoot down and who shoots u down is how much your score rises or lowers.
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Post by: E25280 on October 07, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Why you guys even worry about the Scorepotatos? Why even have a thread about them. You all say score doesn't matter to you, but you spend hours complaining about them. Why even give a crap about the top ranked guys, let him have his rank if that turns him on....You guys complaining about them seem more pathetic then the scorepotatos themselves. Sorry I just don't get why you all care so much.
I have to agree with this one.
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on October 07, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
This thread is full of win.

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: Lusche on October 07, 2007, 09:23:32 PM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
LOL well I have never been higher than 10th in fighter rank, and now im sitting in the number 2 spot:)


I think that's more coincidentally. With combined score, it was easily possible to boost bomber & attack ranks in EW arenas, but not fighter rank. There were so few opportunities for a fight that anyone going there to boost fighter score basically wrecked his K/S and K/H score. Improving fighter score means you need something to shoot down.
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Post by: Oldman731 on October 07, 2007, 10:45:37 PM
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Originally posted by E25280
I have to agree with this one.

Me too.

- oldman
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Post by: BaldEagl on October 08, 2007, 01:30:35 AM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
I think it should work like chess, u should have a rating system. like a ladder, and depending on who u shoot down and who shoots u down is how much your score rises or lowers.


Bad idea.  All that does is homoginize the scores and ultimately draws everyone to the middle.

The top scoring person can't kill anyone better than him, so his score drops with each kill (or he scores less for each) while the bottom scored guy can't kill anyone worse than him, so he get's max points for every kill.
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Post by: SteveBailey on October 08, 2007, 01:35:25 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Bad idea.  All that does is homoginize the scores and ultimately draws everyone to the middle.

The top scoring person can't kill anyone better than him, so his score drops with each kill (or he scores less for each) while the bottom scored guy can't kill anyone worse than him, so he get's max points for every kill.


Not if you made a minimum point floor.  Say 400 per kill.  1000 max for killlin a high scoring dude. I always suspected that you got more points for killing dudes w/ high scores in AW.  I know that the more kills you had in a row the more points your kills were worth.
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Post by: A8TOOL on October 08, 2007, 05:14:38 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
We still have an underpopulated LW arena at off-peak times. No problem, Sir! :aok



Heheheh   LOL  sounds like Lusche has to set his alarm to play this game and score high now.

He will never be listed as 1st place again on squad rankings ....Waaaaaaaaa! Told ya one guy doesn't make a squad no matter how many personalities you have mr. invalid.

Guys like him and Rockies are now dweebing 30k bomber missions to find a way to keep their scores up, But Lusche has found even another way to keep his score low.  

He Plays Less!!!!  hehehe   What a LUSCHER

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Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 06:58:59 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Heheheh   LOL  sounds like Lusche has to set his alarm to play this game and score high now.

He will never be listed as 1st place again on squad rankings ....Waaaaaaaaa! Told ya one guy doesn't make a squad no matter how many personalities you have mr. invalid.

Guys like him and Rockies are now dweebing 30k bomber missions to find a way to keep their scores up, But Lusche has found even another way to keep his score low.  

He Plays Less!!!!  hehehe   What a LUSCHER

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30K bomber missions is where they are supposed to take place.

Not the dive bombing Lancs that everyone was complaining about.

Wanna get that great rank?

Always fly with superiour numbers behind you.
when the kills are the easiest and when your chances of being killed are next to nil
Only enguage when you have a great advantage
And when your at a disadvantage. Run away.

Same formula its always been
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Post by: Bronk on October 08, 2007, 07:14:18 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Heheheh   LOL  sounds like Lusche has to set his alarm to play this game and score high now.

He will never be listed as 1st place again on squad rankings ....Waaaaaaaaa! Told ya one guy doesn't make a squad no matter how many personalities you have mr. invalid.

Guys like him and Rockies are now dweebing 30k bomber missions to find a way to keep their scores up, But Lusche has found even another way to keep his score low.  

He Plays Less!!!!  hehehe   What a LUSCHER

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You sir are aptly named.------->Tool


Bronk
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Post by: A8TOOL on October 08, 2007, 07:22:54 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
30K bomber missions is where they are supposed to take place.

Not the dive bombing Lancs that everyone was complaining about.

Wanna get that great rank?

Always fly with superiour numbers behind you.
when the kills are the easiest and when your chances of being killed are next to nil
Only enguage when you have a great advantage
And when your at a disadvantage. Run away.

Same formula its always been


I think I ranked 18 last month and I hardly ever land. I usually fight till i'm dead.

I use Lancs to dive bomb because unlike you  i'm not scared.

I don't need superior #'s to hide behind or within to get a kill.

I make my own advantages

And I never run away or very far because unlike you sir, I peiss standing up .

Your tactics may work and I bet you learned them at a very young age while on the playground....  I new wusse's like that......   some became cops. Just an observation.
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Post by: Getback on October 08, 2007, 08:05:31 AM
I think you will find the savvy pilots like Shawk, Skyrock, Shrek, and Lusche etc will always find a way to rank well under any situation. Rank has its privileges, you can take cv's away from newbs. I'd like to see rank play a part in SB command.

Overall, I like the new setup.

:aok
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Hap on October 08, 2007, 08:09:50 AM
The scoring has always mystified me.

I figure it's just a fundamental lack of skill on my part.  So I've never paid much attention to it.

I took a quick peek at the stats of the top 10 or so after breezing through some of the posts in this thread.
What I read describes another world.  11 kills per death plus 7 to 11 kills per hour or so.  

to them I say.  

And to whomever thinks they're whatever they think they are.
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Post by: Lusche on October 08, 2007, 08:16:45 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Heheheh   LOL  sounds like Lusche has to set his alarm to play this game and score high now.

He will never be listed as 1st place again on squad rankings ....Waaaaaaaaa! Told ya one guy doesn't make a squad no matter how many personalities you have mr. invalid.

Guys like him and Rockies are now dweebing 30k bomber missions to find a way to keep their scores up, But Lusche has found even another way to keep his score low.  

He Plays Less!!!!  hehehe   What a LUSCHER

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This post is a fine mix of misinformation, misconceptions,  nonsense, ignorance and outright lies. Keep up the good work! :aok
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Post by: Bronk on October 08, 2007, 08:38:33 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
I think I ranked 18 last month and I hardly ever land. I usually fight till i'm dead.

Only thing rank is good for is to play hide the CV.

I use Lancs to dive bomb because unlike you  i'm not scared.

Lancs are not dive bombers. To use them as such is not brave.duhh its a game you don't die. It is however gamey and lame. ( huh who'd a thought an A8 would think gamey and lame is brave.:rolleyes: )
I don't need superior #'s to hide behind or within to get a kill.

Yes you do that or divebombing in lancs.

I make my own advantages

Yea it's called flying in da horde. Or when certain terrain deficiencies arise, well you know.

And I never run away or very far because I peiss standing up unlike you sir.


That's because of the numbers you hide in. Don't need  to run to far when in da horde.

Your tactics may work and I bet you learned them at a very young age while on the playground....  I new wusse's like that   some became cops

Awww what's the matter, kid you picked on in highschool become a cop and bust you for being a "TOOL"?
:rofl :rofl :rofl

This guy so pathetic it's funny.



Bronk

Edit: Hmm I may have to retract this. A8TOOL is in no squad and hasn't been in the ma in quite some time(as far back as I care to look). So either he his a trolling-TOOL or a shade-TOOL. But both are just as lame so no biggy.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: WolfSnipe on October 08, 2007, 08:54:49 AM
im glad i opened this post LMAO and VANSCREW wussup
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Post by: Bronk on October 08, 2007, 09:10:56 AM
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Originally posted by WolfSnipe
im glad i opened this post LMAO and VANSCREW wussup

Ohh look another one.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bronk
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Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 09:11:21 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
I think I ranked 18 last month and I hardly ever land. I usually fight till i'm dead.

I use Lancs to dive bomb because unlike you  i'm not scared.

I don't need superior #'s to hide behind or within to get a kill.

I make my own advantages

And I never run away or very far because unlike you sir, I peiss standing up .

Your tactics may work and I bet you learned them at a very young age while on the playground....  I new wusse's like that......   some became cops. Just an observation.


LMAO!

Point A I dont fly lancs. and rarely fly bombers.
If I did I wouldnt dive bomb lancs because its a lame tactic and has little to do with historical accuracy (its was RARELY done)

You better check my rankings before you talk to me about my tactics.

the tactics I mentioned are the ones I see some of the so called "top" players use.


Rarely alone without people to protect them. Rarely caught at a disadvantage
and rarely sick around when in one

I personally couldnt give a rats butt about the illusion of high rank
I've tried a couple of times but got bored within an hour or so.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 09:15:12 AM
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Originally posted by Getback
I think you will find the savvy pilots like Shawk, Skyrock, Shrek, and Lusche etc will always find a way to rank well under any situation. Rank has its privileges, you can take cv's away from newbs. I'd like to see rank play a part in SB command.

Overall, I like the new setup.

:aok


LMAO

See above post.

Particularly when SHawk is concerned.

Dont get me wrong hes a fine pilot. And a decent guy.

But he aint in the top 10
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Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 09:16:41 AM
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Originally posted by Hap
The scoring has always mystified me.

I figure it's just a fundamental lack of skill on my part.  So I've never paid much attention to it.

I took a quick peek at the stats of the top 10 or so after breezing through some of the posts in this thread.
What I read describes another world.  11 kills per death plus 7 to 11 kills per hour or so.  

to them I say.  

And to whomever thinks they're whatever they think they are.


Can you say "vulch"?

Or "Gangbang"?

Theres your answer
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Getback on October 08, 2007, 10:24:42 AM
Dredlock,

Whole heartedly agree with you on your last posting of tactics. I'm just saying that some pilots will figure out how to obtain rank.

As for me I like to mix it up and yet I'm not above a pick. I see Trikky, Ghi, and others up under touch circumstances and duke it out. You have to admire those guys.
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Post by: Ack-Ack on October 08, 2007, 12:16:20 PM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I always suspected that you got more points for killing dudes w/ high scores in AW.  I know that the more kills you had in a row the more points your kills were worth.



AW had a ranking system that couldn't be seen by players.  If you were a low ranked player and shot down a higher ranked player, you received a better score than you would have if you had shot down an equal or lower ranked player.  You also received extra points for kill streaks.


ack-ack
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Getback on October 08, 2007, 12:29:41 PM
It seems to me that AH scoring is mostly based on stats. Which I think is good.

No one ever came to this game because of ranking, they came because it was fun, exciting, and the comraderie. And Hey, you still like to see some scoring.
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Post by: BaldEagl on October 08, 2007, 12:41:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
AW had a ranking system that couldn't be seen by players.  If you were a low ranked player and shot down a higher ranked player, you received a better score than you would have if you had shot down an equal or lower ranked player.  You also received extra points for kill streaks.


ack-ack


Air warrior had a visible scoring/ranking system.  The top 100 or 200 (I don't remember which) were posted but nothing below that.
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Post by: A8TOOL on October 08, 2007, 12:49:33 PM
Well Your definitely wrong on a few points. Shawk is ranking #1 this camp so far and was #2 last. he's a skilled pilot and I'm sure watches his score just like maybe... over....60% of us do

Last month the only thing I did different was allocate my planes properly. Being a base taker most of my bomber ,attack and vehicle scores are made up of points for killing structures plus I get about 17 captures per month.

I can't say your tactics don't wk because they do. I play my way you play yours. I fight till I'm dead and you run like hel, I like working with others taking bases and you could care less about that part.

Having taken psychology has helped me understand different types of people. Their core personalities are easily exposed here and partial profiles can be assessed.

 Lusche for instance is in total denial and going through a score withdrawal lets say.... hehe   Putting in about 200 hours a month, his life has kinda revolved around the game for a long. It's important to him to be #1 and now he doesn't know what to do.  If he plays more in the main he chances his score going dn but he needs to play more to keep his attack bombing and vehicle points up. He's not liking the situation he's in and trying to figure out whats the best approach. I think it's funny and the reason I posted.

Tour 92 Statistics for DREDIOCK
Game ID       Overall  Fighter  Bomber  Attack  Veh/Boat
DREDIOCK    1588    611    4960    408    1726
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Lusche on October 08, 2007, 01:08:57 PM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL

 Lusche for instance is in total denial and going through a score withdrawal lets say.... hehe   Putting in about 200 hours a month, his life has kinda revolved around the game for a long. It's important to him to be #1 and now he doesn't know what to do.  If he plays more in the main he chances his score going dn but he needs to play more to keep his attack bombing and vehicle points up. He's not liking the situation he's in and trying to figure out whats the best approach. I think it's funny and the reason I posted.



It's funny and completely made up. I have played more than 200h as well as less than 100h in the past without any change in scoring systems. The only reason I fly for is fun. I fly when I like to, and I don't fly when I don't like, or real life takes precedence - yes, even I have one...
It was never important for me to be #1. If that would be  the case, the Hurricane I wouldn't have been my top ride in last tour, or the Bf 109F three tours ago.
I tried to fly for rank one tour early in this year to see how I would fare. I not only failed to get a overal better rank, I was bored to hell.
I fly what I want, where I want, when I want. I play all aspects of the game, hence my "good" rank.

And me flying Lancs at 30k - that's completely made up too. My usual alt is 15-20k, actually I I never took a Lanc to 30k.

And for "not liking the situation I'm in" - I was always begging for seperate scores, and actually I was the first one to thank HTC for this change.  Do a little search ;)

I'm still trying to figure out the reason for such kind of postings by you...
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Bronk on October 08, 2007, 01:27:08 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche


I'm still trying to figure out the reason for such kind of postings by you...


You must have spanked him hard in game.  Guess in game wasn't enough, he's now looking for it here.

Bronk
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: VonMessa on October 08, 2007, 01:30:18 PM
quote:Originally posted by A8TOOL
Heheheh LOL sounds like Lusche has to set his alarm to play this game and score high now.

He will never be listed as 1st place again on squad rankings ....Waaaaaaaaa! Told ya one guy doesn't make a squad no matter how many personalities you have mr. invalid.

Guys like him and Rockies are now dweebing 30k bomber missions to find a way to keep their scores up, But Lusche has found even another way to keep his score low.

He Plays Less!!!! hehehe What a LUSCHER

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Originally posted by Lusche
This post is a fine mix of misinformation, misconceptions,  nonsense, ignorance and outright lies. Keep up the good work! :aok



Spoken with tact, candidness, and true German effeciency:aok :aok

Also Lusche, the grammer and punctuation are precise.  :aok
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 03:45:13 PM
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Originally posted by Getback
Dredlock,

Whole heartedly agree with you on your last posting of tactics. I'm just saying that some pilots will figure out how to obtain rank.

As for me I like to mix it up and yet I'm not above a pick. I see Trikky, Ghi, and others up under touch circumstances and duke it out. You have to admire those guys.


Fact of the matter is after my last post I logged off. A bit later I got what you are getting at.

Yes I would be in aggreement with you there.
I enjoy mixing it up as well. and I often fly alone rarely actually winging with anyone.

Attacking a swarm of 6 or more all by myself is not unheard f from me.
And findnig myself surrounded by 3,4,5 + enemy planes is pretty frequesnt.

I enjoy seeing how many I can either kill or get to auger or to see how long it takes all of them buzzing like bees around me before they finally get me.

GREAT fun
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 08, 2007, 04:05:07 PM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Well Your definitely wrong on a few points. Shawk is ranking #1 this camp so far and was #2 last. he's a skilled pilot and I'm sure watches his score just like maybe... over....60% of us do

Last month the only thing I did different was allocate my planes properly. Being a base taker most of my bomber ,attack and vehicle scores are made up of points for killing structures plus I get about 17 captures per month.

I can't say your tactics don't wk because they do. I play my way you play yours. I fight till I'm dead and you run like hel, I like working with others taking bases and you could care less about that part.

Having taken psychology has helped me understand different types of people. Their core personalities are easily exposed here and partial profiles can be assessed.

 Lusche for instance is in total denial and going through a score withdrawal lets say.... hehe   Putting in about 200 hours a month, his life has kinda revolved around the game for a long. It's important to him to be #1 and now he doesn't know what to do.  If he plays more in the main he chances his score going dn but he needs to play more to keep his attack bombing and vehicle points up. He's not liking the situation he's in and trying to figure out whats the best approach. I think it's funny and the reason I posted.

Tour 92 Statistics for DREDIOCK
Game ID       Overall  Fighter  Bomber  Attack  Veh/Boat
DREDIOCK    1588    611    4960    408    1726


LOL I know enough about SHawk to know  how he plays.
I never said he wasnt a skilled pilot. in fact I specifically said he was a "fine pilot."

But I know how he plays

Ok you posted my rankings. I already said I dont care about rank.
Your telling me about my tactics.
Exactly what tactics would those be that "I" use?
I wasnt speaking of my tactics. Just the tactics the high rankers tend to use.

Wanna know my tactics?
Here they are.
Get ready.
Some ground beaking stuff here.

Whatever looks like fun or I think needs doing at the spur of the moment. thats what I do.
I'll use a plane set up as fighter to attack Buildings, and GVs.
I'll use a plane set up for attack or bomber as a fighter.
And mix and match and crisscross everythng in between.

I know that way Im never going ot have a uber rank.
then again. Im not caring a whole lot about it either.

Am I the best fighter in the game?
Nope.
But I know in an equal situation I can usually hold my own against pretty much anyone in the MA.

And as far as SHawk is concerned Having actually fought him.
I''d say we are pretty equal in the skill dept

Which is how I know he's not a top 10 reguardless of what the ranking system says.

And its nothing Personal against SHawk.
I've known him dating back to the Airwarrior Days.
Which is a pretty long time
As I said he is a fine pilot and seems like an all around decent guy.

What I am saying. Is this whole ranking thing is little more then an illusion.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: WaRLoCkL on October 08, 2007, 04:16:33 PM
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Originally posted by Getback
I think you will find the savvy pilots like Shawk, Skyrock, Shrek, and Lusche etc will always find a way to rank well under any situation. Rank has its privileges, you can take cv's away from newbs. I'd like to see rank play a part in SB command.

Overall, I like the new setup.

:aok


I rank high every month no matter how much i land, the secret is KILL PER SORTI, if u can keep that up then everything will be high, dont balive me try it sometime, garentee if u got a 2.5 sorti or better u will be on the top 50
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: WaRLoCkL on October 08, 2007, 04:19:02 PM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
I rank high every month no matter how much i land, the secret is KILL PER SORTI, if u can keep that up then everything will be high, dont balive me try it sometime, garentee if u got a 2.5 sorti or better u will be on the top 50


not that i care about my score, but I go out everytime looking to KILL as many as I can befor I die, but i have been trying to work on my survivability latley just cause I like the idea of being able to land 15 plus kills. If u can go in and out of a fight couple times by re arming and re entering, and survive to bring a crap load home, then it shows you are really flying like a true pilot. In my opinion a TRUE pilot dosnt go out to get him himself killed
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: SAS_KID on October 08, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
not that i care about my score, but I go out everytime looking to KILL as many as I can befor I die, but i have been trying to work on my survivability latley just cause I like the idea of being able to land 15 plus kills. If u can go in and out of a fight couple times by re arming and re entering, and survive to bring a crap load home, then it shows you are really flying like a true pilot. In my opinion a TRUE pilot dosnt go out to get him himself killed


Exactly which is why we are armchair pilots. so we can get ourselves killed.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: E25280 on October 08, 2007, 09:18:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Awww what's the matter, kid you picked on in highschool become a cop and bust you for being a "TOOL"?
:rofl :rofl :rofl

This guy so pathetic it's funny.



Bronk

Edit: Hmm I may have to retract this. A8TOOL is in no squad and hasn't been in the ma in quite some time(as far back as I care to look). So either he his a trolling-TOOL or a shade-TOOL. But both are just as lame so no biggy.
Use zeros instead of o's.  He is part of the Aces & 8's squad.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: LYNX on October 08, 2007, 10:14:19 PM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
I think I ranked 18 last month and I hardly ever land. I usually fight till i'm dead.

I use Lancs to dive bomb because unlike you  i'm not scared.

I don't need superior #'s to hide behind or within to get a kill.

I make my own advantages

And I never run away or very far because unlike you sir, I peiss standing up .

Your tactics may work and I bet you learned them at a very young age while on the playground....  I new wusse's like that......   some became cops. Just an observation.


Having read every post here I can say this is the one that I find the most disappointing.  That's not because I'm a high rank player it's because this guy isn't a player he's a gamer.  Dive bombing Lancs indeed:rolleyes:

Lancaster's operated at night.  Their typical alt was 19k weather permitting.  They didn't fly in formation and approached in a stream.  Rather like a swarm being funneled into a pipe to target.

Some notorious missions did go in low but they suffered heavy losses.  These types of mission were far and few between.  Some and mean SOME of the elite path finders did mark targets with flairs from as low as 500 feet but they were the except rather than the rule.

As for being ranked 18th in bombers that's more to do with captures than suiciding towns, hangers, GV's and my pet hate suiciding CV's.  

I think the scoring system works well from a players perspective but it's not so good for the gamers and then they have the nerve to moan about it:rolleyes:  

In parting I say this to everyone.  There are many misconceptions about high rank and one of the biggest concerns fighter rank and the so called "runners".  Many of these misconception are born about by not fully understanding how the scoring system works.  This recent change will only partly stop those that purposefully score... IE bomber rank / GV rank / captures.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: lyric1 on October 08, 2007, 10:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL

I think it should work like chess, u should have a rating system. like a ladder, and depending on who u shoot down and who shoots u down is how much your score rises or lowers.
I like this idea.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: shamroc on October 09, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
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Originally posted by lyric1
I like this idea.


Warlockl's idea about using a Chess (ELO) like rating is a really good idea - but I think it could only be realistically applied to organized dueling matches.  You could have a private website set up where people register themselves as players, and they all start off with a rating, that changes according to the ELO algorithm.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

Using an ELO-like ranking in organized matches really would produce a meaningful score that reflects actual relative skill.

Shamroc
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: BaldEagl on October 09, 2007, 12:32:32 AM
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Originally posted by LYNX
This recent change will only partly stop those that purposefully score... IE bomber rank / GV rank / captures.


<---------------  Runs and hides.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Getback on October 09, 2007, 08:30:02 AM
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
I rank high every month no matter how much i land, the secret is KILL PER SORTI, if u can keep that up then everything will be high, dont balive me try it sometime, garentee if u got a 2.5 sorti or better u will be on the top 50



I wish Warlock, you make it sound easy. :lol The best I've done in recent memory is around 1.5 to 1.8 kills per sortie.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Husky01 on October 09, 2007, 08:36:35 AM
Rank is stupid.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Scca on October 09, 2007, 10:08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Rank is stupid.
Can't wait to see the comments this one elicits...
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: LYNX on October 09, 2007, 01:00:13 PM
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Originally posted by Scca
Can't wait to see the comments this one elicits...


OK I'll have a bite :D

It's stupid to have rank and LET some newbie or other assorted idiots suicide your CV.

There  hows that ?  :aok
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: A8TOOL on October 10, 2007, 01:49:42 AM
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Originally posted by LYNX
Having read every post here I can say this is the one that I find the most disappointing.  That's not because I'm a high rank player it's because this guy isn't a player he's a gamer.  Dive bombing Lancs indeed:rolleyes:

Lancaster's operated at night.  Their typical alt was 19k weather permitting.  They didn't fly in formation and approached in a stream.  

Some notorious missions did go in low but they suffered heavy losses.  These types of mission were far and few between.  Some and mean SOME of the elite path finders did mark targets with flairs from as low as 500 feet but they were the except rather than the rule.

As for being ranked 18th in bombers that's more to do with captures than suiciding towns, hangers, GV's and my pet hate suiciding CV's.




I made no reference to dive bombing cv's

I made no reference to acquiring a bomber rank of 18

I do use bombers in the day some are lancs but now that I see i'm doing it wrong i will only fly them at night and high unless I have flares of course.  

Stupid post lynks, I'm disappointed as well.

You should have really read them first before you posted. If you did you would have seen I was referring to the runners, hiders and pickers in this game. They do nothing to help the country and only worry about themselves because they don't want to risk being killed and lowing their scores.  As i've said before, you don't need to use these cowardly tactics to obtain a decent rank but it's your 15 bucks, play it the way you want. I will continue to dive bomb towns and gv's as I see fit to help my country acquire bases and win the map, if we should be so lucky.
I'm not sure i ever seen lanc's dive on a CV but i do know low bombers on one have little chance if gunned and has air cover. Getting away with that takes a lot more skill than either of us have and maybe should be commended. LOL
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 10, 2007, 03:47:53 AM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Rank is stupid.



No matter what type of game, a lot want to see how they stack up against others.  It's all part of being a social animal.  However, what is stupid about having a rank system are the lengths some go to see their name in lights.

Of course, you already know that.


ack-ack
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: pluck on October 10, 2007, 05:44:24 AM
Though the idea of determing rank by who you shoot down is interesting, in the MA there are way to many variables to make it a valid factor.  suching as vulching, hording, and the guys looking to pick you as soon as you enter a fight in hopes of getting a better rank, by killing a higher ranked player, without having to do much of anything.  Though the idea of rank through the DA is interesting solution around this.  None of it changes how I fly/have fun though, because as Husky pointed out, score is stupid.:) I don't need some computer to tell me how I'm doing.
Title: So how are the score potatos liking...
Post by: ColKLink on October 10, 2007, 07:06:10 AM
I have to enlighten the class lynx,......."assorted" is a sort of code used on country channel  to discribe a "tard" Possibly the funniest thing ive ever heard on a/h....... "any one of these 5 "assorted retards" take control of the cv, and get it sunk". Now it takes a brit so say "assorted retards", that implys there are more than 1 style of retard, which just light up my funny bone for weeks. thanks lynx.:D