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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AirFlyer on October 07, 2007, 08:42:27 PM
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A good read, but a bit long. If the title caught your interest you should most likely read this.
http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html
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It is an interesting read. The blatant anti-american feelings the author exhudes doesn't really help him sell his story though, at least not to me. It all may very well be true, I don't have any way of disproving it. The read just left me with a bad taste in my mouth though.
I would like to beleive it's possible and would really like to see it be that way but I really would like to read about it from a source without an ancilliary agenda.
Mark
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" Misleading Zionist Scam"
thats as far as i got.
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Originally posted by vorticon
" Misleading Zionist Scam"
thats as far as i got.
Yeah, I felt like stopping there too but decided to read further and see if there was anything edifying in the article.
Mark
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I wish something like that was true! Peruse this guys site, he is a bonafide nutjob!!
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The guy does seem like a bit off, but it is something different. I personally like to see both sides of the story. Never hurts to see what the conspirators have come up with to from time to time.
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I'm still a fan of switching to coal and producing more diesel engines.
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He could be alot more convincing without the constant zionism and western conspiracy blabbering. The whole site is about west this jews that.
He even named Khodorovski as wall street agent with the sole purpose of stealing this technology. Meanwhile he's proudly illustrating the technology used to drill deep. :confused:
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They can rant about oil and global warming all they want... I'm personally stocking up on blankets and firewood. If I'm wrong, I have a warehouse full of stuff I don't need. If I'm right, I'm rich and all those whiny bastards complaining about climate change are going to have to apologize and kiss my butt before I sell them a blanket.
:noid
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The theory isn't new. I saw an article perhaps 10-15 years ago that someone funded a "deep drill" in Sweden, I believe. His theory was that you could find oil no matter where you drilled, if you drilled deep enough. IIRC he was about 8 miles deep, had found nothing, and was out of funds. The article I remember seeing was about his fundraising efforts to get "just" 2 more miles down where he was certain the oil could be found (never mind the fact he had said the same thing at 6 miles deep).
All that being said, the author of the linked article is a nut job.
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his ideas or the russian ideas are true as far as oil are concerned yet he just makes me want to puke from all his anti u.s. crap. besides the biggest problem in the u.s. right now is refinery capacity not supply of crude
i help build pads for the rigs to drill on and we are drilling and capping good holes faster than ever before in this country, just waiting for someone to stand up too the epa and start building more refineries. i dont understand why mexico isnt lineing the border with these refineries and pipeing crude in and fuel out they dont have too deal with all the red tape we do!
they could run the lines right across the rio grande as greedy as the mexican gov. is i would think this would appeal to them.
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at 1st I thought, 'what a crock of ####', but then I checked Wiki, which led me to some --real-- scientific papers.
Here's a link to one in PNAS, an extremely reputable American journal. Very interesting idea I have to read more on...
linky (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/99/17/10976)
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Originally posted by kamilyun
at 1st I thought, 'what a crock of ####', but then I checked Wiki, which led me to some --real-- scientific papers.
Here's a link to one in PNAS, an extremely reputable American journal. Very interesting idea I have to read more on...
linky (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/99/17/10976)
Tried reading that. The first paragraph went ok... it was kinda downhill after that then went over my head.
Mark
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Here's the link (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/101/39/14023) to another one. The 'Discussion' section pasted below.
The author of the original piece linked by AirFlyer is a bit whacked out, but I just wanted to point out that the scientific premise for abiogenic oil generation (i.e. not a fossil fuel) is not just theoretically possible, but appears to have been demonstrated in several different laboratories around the world. What % of oil comes from these sources, I don't know, but it makes for interesting reading.
copied and pasted from linked article:
Methane is expected to form inorganically at mantle pressures and temperatures from any carbonate species, such as FeCO3-siderite or MgCO3-magnesite, in the presence of H2O at oxygen fugacities near the wüstite-magnetite fO2 buffer. Such conditions may be widespread in the mantle and can be moderated by the presence of iron-bearing phases such as Fe2SiO4-fayalite, FeS-troilite, or accessory minerals such as FeCr2O4-chromite and FeTiO3-ilmenite. Indeed, our analysis shows that methane production is thermodynamically favorable under a broad range of high pressure-temperature conditions. The calculations indicate that methane production is most favored at 500°C and pressures <7 GPa; higher temperatures are expected to lead to CO2 and CO production through a reforming equilibrium with methane. The wide pressure–temperature–composition stability field of methane documented here has broad implications for the hydrocarbon budget of the planet and indicates that methane may be a more prevalent carbon-bearing phase in the mantle than previously thought, with implications for the deep hot biosphere (25). In particular, isotopic evidence indicating the prevalence of biogenic hydrocarbons pertains to economically exploited hydrocarbon gas reservoirs, largely in sedimentary basins (2); these observations and analyses do not rule out the potential for large abiogenic reservoirs in the mantle. Moreover, the assumption that CO2 is the sole carrier of mantle-derived noble gasses (26, 27) should be reevaluated. Finally, the potential may exist for the high-pressure formation of heavier hydrocarbons by using mantle-generated methane as a precursor.
Henry P. Scott *, , , Russell J. Hemley , Ho-kwang Mao , Dudley R. Herschbach , Laurence E. Fried ¶, W. Michael Howard ¶, and Sorin Bastea ||
*Department of Physics and Astronomy, Indiana University, South Bend, IN 46634; Geophysical Laboratory, Carnegie Institution of Washington, 5251 Broad Branch Road NW, Washington, DC 20015; Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138; and ¶Chemistry and Materials Science Directorate and ||Physics and Advanced Technologies Directorate, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, CA 94550
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If you drill deep enough, you will at least find some temperature :D
(oops, that could be misinterprated)
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Originally posted by Apers
I'm still a fan of switching to coal and producing more diesel engines.
Do you have a clue as to where diesel comes from????:huh
Just an FYI, B110 or 100% biodiesel from soy BTW, another food product, in Wichita Kansas is selling for $4.00 a gallon. Regular low sulfer diesel and Ultra low sulfer diesel is going for $3.00 to $3.19 a gallon there.
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That is indeed very cheap.
(well compared to the 5$ I pay for non-bio diesel).