Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: NHawk on October 08, 2007, 11:06:36 AM
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Just a thought that would make it tougher to take an air field....
1) Move the map room to the field itself.
2) Keep the requirement that the town needs to be down.
What this does is it makes the capture much harder. You not only need to take the town down but also de-ack the field, and probably destroy the whole base.
It would also slow the advance of the front lines because of rebuild/resupply time.
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Not a bad idea at all.
It will however make it much harder to keep that which was just captured as you will most likely have little to no ability to up from the field to defend against any counter attack.
It will definately change the way you go about capturing a base and your right the field will just go flat immediately (all hangers) thus not allowing for any type of defense. Im thinking more hordes/missions to smash the base.
Would make for an interesting test though to see how it works out.
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lets just triple the troop requirements .
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I think the tougher you make base captures, the bigger the horde you'll find being required.
IMHO, you keep the capture at 10 troops for a maproom at the town and make the towns with fewer buildings, ~25, and increase the size and building count at the factories with no more then 1 factory of each type per zone.
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Havening spent more then a few nights fighting like heck to take or keep a base that was being actively defended, i would say that it is already pretty hard. Sure you can sneak a base, or hoard a base and beat it down in minutes, i don't know that the placement of the map room really matters in either case.
If you sneak it all you have to do it take down ack and vh, then vulch, which isn't a whole lot harder then just downing the town.
If you hoard it the ack and vh are usually going to be primary targets anyway. If your goal is to make it harder, change the number of troops required to capture or shorten the time it takes for base/town objects to pop.
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I say increase troop requirements to 30 and make it so the ack does not instantly pop back up after the capture, That is very unrealistic. You should have to bring in supplies to get the ack back up same as you would for VH/FH.
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IMO to make a base more difficult to take, add a second VH and a spawn point at or very near the town/maproom.
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All good points gentlemen. :)
Here's my thinking on this...
First sneaking an airfield is completely eliminated. With the need for the town AND field ack to be down that base would be lighting up like a christmas tree before it was far enough down to take.
Taking a base would require some extra planning to prevent the re-take. People wouldn't be able to land and re-up using the existing hangars since they'd most likely be down. Which to me seems a little more realistic, since a P51 for example couldn't use very much from an enemy airfield and their supplies wouldn't have arrived yet. The best they could do is land and re-fuel/re-arm on a pad. If they don't do that, they had better have a defensive group already there or very close. And it promotes both supply runs to recently captured bases and GV cooperation.
With the map room near say the tower, the capture of a base would still be possible by just taking the town and field AA down but it would also be possible to quickly defend against the sneak take/attack.
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Wouldn't hurt to have a few manned ack in the town too.
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Originally posted by clerick
Wouldn't hurt to have a few manned ack in the town too.
I think all ack's should be manned acks, no auto-acks... But that's a total different discussion I guess.
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I totally agree with this idea, it's the bestest. :aok
I think it would involve more strategy, and would be a nice change.
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Originally posted by Tiger
I think all ack's should be manned acks, no auto-acks... But that's a total different discussion I guess.
Not sure i agree 100% If there was NO unmanned defenses, a base would be easier to capture. Instead, make all auto guns manable. The position is auto until someone takes control. Do the same for CV's.
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Originally posted by clerick
Not sure i agree 100% If there was NO unmanned defenses, a base would be easier to capture. Instead, make all auto guns manable. The position is auto until someone takes control. Do the same for CV's.
Now this, I like. You have to include the CA and DEs in that equation too. Every gun auto, until manned, is something I can get behind.
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If we can't have this done can we atleast get a mannable gun in the town??
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Originally posted by clerick
Not sure i agree 100% If there was NO unmanned defenses, a base would be easier to capture. Instead, make all auto guns manable. The position is auto until someone takes control. Do the same for CV's.
Yes, heaven forbid anyone actually have to defend a base... let's rely on the AI to do it for us.
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Originally posted by Tiger
Yes, heaven forbid anyone actually have to defend a base... let's rely on the AI to do it for us.
One issue with only mannable guns with the current scoring system is manned gun kills don't count towards your rank.
Sure, I love to take out planes in a manned gun when defending a base/CV, but so few don't because they would rather do something to better their rank.
Another thing is with no auto guns, when numbers are low it would be a vulch fest at any air field. I know several squads that would send single planes to nme bases and wait for uppers..
Don't think it would be a positive move personally.
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Originally posted by Tiger
Yes, heaven forbid anyone actually have to defend a base... let's rely on the AI to do it for us.
Translation
With only maned ack it will be easier for me to set up a vulch fest/capture.
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Thats the way I read it.
Bronk
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The current base capture is just fine.
Imo, the harder we make the base capture, the longer we gotta look at the same map before it changes.
You keep making it harder, it will just turn into an endless furball.
Might as well just have 3 bases.
It most certainly isn,t easy the way it is.
Sometimes its good to just leave well enough alone.
Careful what you wish for.