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Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: sullie363 on October 12, 2007, 04:22:11 AM
Well we've been under this new score system long enough to now determine that whatever score whoring practices that used to go on in the EW and MW now take place in whichever LW arena is down in the numbers.  For the past week it seems to fall on LW Blue to be the score padding center.  If anything score whoring has become easier for LW regulars as they now have every aircraft available to perfect their trade instead of being stuck with all that early war stuff.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Blooz on October 12, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
and...?
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Jackal1 on October 12, 2007, 05:34:08 AM
What I don`t get is ....why do you or anyone care?
How does it pertain to....anything?
It has and will continue in one form or another.
The only people I can see that it would bother would be other bean counters.
Score/rank can only mean anything to yourself, maybe as a personal guideline to what you are trying to accomplish at the time.
There was an hour long channel 200 hundred bashing in LW yesterday morning about a score padder.
The hilarious thing was that the main cheerleader for the bashing is one of the biggest "game the gamers" in the game.
Get over it. Play the game.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: sullie363 on October 12, 2007, 07:20:32 AM
I raised the issue because some claimed the separate scores for the arenas would do away with this particular form of score whoring and because I love pointless BBS banter.  I could care less about people doing it also, hell I find them nice targets.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: The Fugitive on October 12, 2007, 08:00:17 AM
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Originally posted by sullie363
I raised the issue because some claimed the separate scores for the arenas would do away with this particular form of score whoring and because I love pointless BBS banter.  I could care less about people doing it also, hell I find them nice targets.


I don't think ANYTHING will do away with it totally, but is has curbed it a bit. If you check the scores, for the most part you see those that you would expect near the top as apposed to all those "kids" that use to be fighting for the top spots. SHawk is the only one really carrying a top rank in each of the categories.

Generally those that are good in fighters spend little time in buffs and vis-a-versa and the score boards are showing that now.  Those that thought it would "Stop the score whoring" are living in a dream world. The score board is wayyyyy to important to some people to not have them spending their time doing only the things that will help their scores, but hey, its there $15, and it's the kind of "fun" they want to pay for.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Helm on October 12, 2007, 08:01:55 AM
Since it bothers you so much ?...why not up a fighter and kill these 'potatos'  ?
Title: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: dedalos on October 12, 2007, 08:10:32 AM
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Originally posted by sullie363
Well we've been under this new score system long enough to now determine that whatever score whoring practices that used to go on in the EW and MW now take place in whichever LW arena is down in the numbers.  For the past week it seems to fall on LW Blue to be the score padding center.  If anything score whoring has become easier for LW regulars as they now have every aircraft available to perfect their trade instead of being stuck with all that early war stuff.


Now now, score is better achieved using the early war equipment.
Title: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Lusche on October 12, 2007, 08:39:39 AM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Now now, score is better achieved using the early war equipment.


Not really. Flying EW planes in LW arena gives you more perks (and maybe a good feeling ;)), but it gives you not more kill/damage  points for score purposes.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: dedalos on October 12, 2007, 08:43:11 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Not really. Flying EW planes in LW arena gives you more perks (and maybe a good feeling ;)), but it gives you not more kill/damage  points for score purposes.


Are you sure?  I thought you get more points using the early planes
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: sullie363 on October 12, 2007, 08:43:25 AM
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Originally posted by Helm
Since it bothers you so much ?...why not up a fighter and kill these 'potatos'  ?


ummm.....

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Originally posted by sullie363
I could care less about people doing it also, hell I find them nice targets.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Lusche on October 12, 2007, 08:44:54 AM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Are you sure?  I thought you get more points using the early planes


Only has a influence in perk gain.

See http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html for the actual formulas. Your plane's ENY is not included in any of them.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Jackal1 on October 12, 2007, 09:07:26 AM
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Originally posted by sullie363
and because I love pointless BBS banter.  


Oh ...well..........that`s different. Carry on. :)
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 12, 2007, 09:27:01 AM
So does prime time score padding.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: dedalos on October 12, 2007, 09:42:52 AM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Only has a influence in perk gain.

See http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html for the actual formulas. Your plane's ENY is not included in any of them.


:O Change it.  Include ENY or one of the other values.  Then I will be right :rofl

It would encourage people to fly other planes too, no?
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Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 10:10:28 AM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Change it.  Include ENY or one of the other values.  Then I will be right

It would encourage people to fly other planes too, no?


The ENY balancing is also to "encourage people to fly other planes".  You see how well that works...  Imagine the whines if a plane's ENY was taken into the calculation for rank!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: dedalos on October 12, 2007, 10:13:32 AM
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Originally posted by Tiger
The ENY balancing is also to "encourage people to fly other planes".  You see how well that works...  Imagine the whines if a plane's ENY was taken into the calculation for rank!?!?!?!?


Not for rank.  Just for points.  Not the adjustable ENY values used for the limiter.  Use the constant values for for the planes.  Maybe use the obj value too.

A kill of a lala in a 202 sould be worth more than a kill of a 202 in a lala
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Chalenge on October 12, 2007, 10:27:35 AM
What I noticed last night in the one sortie I had available was ten cons in one sector that all tried to run when seen. From above they attacked and the went into a guns defense that was barely recognizable as anything but an out of control dive for the deck. I saw cons bail when seen and not even engaged. The lower ones just landed immediately. Its disturbing.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: dedalos on October 12, 2007, 10:29:57 AM
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Originally posted by Chalenge
What I noticed last night in the one sortie I had available was ten cons in one sector that all tried to run when seen. From above they attacked and the went into a guns defense that was barely recognizable as anything but an out of control dive for the deck. I saw cons bail when seen and not even engaged. The lower ones just landed immediately. Its disturbing.


Yep, when they are in friendly territory a successfully ditch is better than risking a death so they go for it.  At list if HT would disable the ability to end flight from a chute we could have some fun with that but it is all about assisting the gamers now days.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 10:31:09 AM
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Originally posted by Chalenge
What I noticed last night in the one sortie I had available was ten cons in one sector that all tried to run when seen. From above they attacked and the went into a guns defense that was barely recognizable as anything but an out of control dive for the deck. I saw cons bail when seen and not even engaged. The lower ones just landed immediately. Its disturbing.


They must have been nits,  rooks are always at 20+k, now way they could have landed right away.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: hubsonfire on October 12, 2007, 10:59:15 AM
What is the points scored calculation based on? Is it the obj value? Any correlation between that and ENY?
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Lusche on October 12, 2007, 11:05:07 AM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
What is the points scored calculation based on? Is it the obj value? Any correlation between that and ENY?


Nope. As said before, OBJ & ENY are only used for perk point purposes.

Basically the Score Points Formula is based upon number of kills & assists and the amount of damage you inflicted on your enemy.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: hubsonfire on October 12, 2007, 11:23:06 AM
Ah, forgot about the obj's purpose- I'm not much on scores these days. I don't recall when, but at some point I had very high points (compared to my normal scoring), and IIRC I had only flown higher ENY planes. I thought then that perhaps my points were due to flying a lesser plane, but if the points are just damage dealt, that would explain the comparatively high points as well.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: Lusche on October 12, 2007, 11:44:30 AM
Don't forget that your sortie's ending has a huge impact on scorepoints too.
Someone who always fights to his death and never returns to base only gets 1/4th points value.

For ranking purposes however, keep in mind that scorepoints are only 1 of 5 different categories, so if you manage to keep K/D, K/S and K/H high, it doesn't matter that much.
Title: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: MajIssue on October 12, 2007, 01:43:19 PM
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Originally posted by sullie363
Well we've been under this new score system long enough to now determine that whatever score whoring practices that used to go on in the EW and MW now take place in whichever LW arena is down in the numbers.  For the past week it seems to fall on LW Blue to be the score padding center.  If anything score whoring has become easier for LW regulars as they now have every aircraft available to perfect their trade instead of being stuck with all that early war stuff.


Let me get this straight... You CARE about someone elses score?   Whats up with that????? Suggestion to myself: Don't worry about  scores,  worry about that 190 closing on my 6!:confused:
Title: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: sullie363 on October 12, 2007, 05:07:28 PM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
Let me get this straight... You CARE about someone elses score?   Whats up with that?????


You clearly did not read more than the first post.
Title: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: TalonX on October 12, 2007, 08:25:42 PM
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Originally posted by sullie363
Well we've been under this new score system long enough to now determine that whatever score whoring practices that used to go on in the EW and MW now take place in whichever LW arena is down in the numbers.  For the past week it seems to fall on LW Blue to be the score padding center.  If anything score whoring has become easier for LW regulars as they now have every aircraft available to perfect their trade instead of being stuck with all that early war stuff.



For God's sake man, get over it.  

Get into that arena and kill them all, or just shut up.

Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: NoBaddy on October 12, 2007, 08:33:35 PM
Anyone have a spare can of CARE? I seem to have run out and could use some for this thread. :)
Title: Re: Re: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: sullie363 on October 13, 2007, 05:31:57 AM
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Originally posted by TalonX
For God's sake man, get over it.  

Get into that arena and kill them all, or just shut up.



And you also did not read anything more than the first post.
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: bj229r on October 13, 2007, 08:09:55 AM
The new system has been a success if only because the 5th S.O.A.R. is nowhere to be found in top 25 squads:aok
Title: Off hour score padding lives!
Post by: SuperDud on October 13, 2007, 01:26:43 PM
Really, what's wrong with score padding? I know many do it, I do. It helps in many ways. First you get to control CVs. If some noob is doing something stupid with a CV I can take it away. Second, it gets me respect. I can't tell you how many times I've had someone comment on how good I must be to get that high of a rank. And to be honest, I have earned most of it. But if I have a chance to do a little padding, I'll go for it. It especially helps when trying to organize people. They see a good rank and they know I'm good. Lastly, it's kind of a fear tactic, like a mental game. Some guy comes on 200 and talks trash I'll tell him to just look at my rank. That's normally enough to shut him up!