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Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 07:27:07 AM
and becomes king of the liberals (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21262661/)

I live hundreds of miles away from him, in a county that has some of the worst air quality in the North America--and yet, YET, I still can't help but pick up the smell of his self-satisfied flatulence wafting through the atmosphere.

Is this world so short on crusaders that they had no choice but to select this sweetheartbag's ever-expanding face to display all over the place.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Curval on October 12, 2007, 07:29:46 AM
...and there was a great gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands in the O'Club.

:rofl
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: VWE on October 12, 2007, 07:37:16 AM
Gore wins the Nobel peace prize... what a crock. I'm sure Mr.Blac er uh crocket will be along any minute now.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: JBA on October 12, 2007, 07:57:09 AM
Mr Justice Burton identified nine significant errors within the former presidential candidate’s documentary as he assessed whether it should be shown to school children......

In what is a rare judicial ruling on what children can see in the class-room, Mr Justice Barton was at pains to point out that the “apocalyptic vision” presented in the film was politically partisan and not an impartial analysis of the science of climate change...

But hell let's give him a peace prize anyway, even thu his movie was crap to begin with.....:aok


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23416393-details/Former+U.S+vice+president+Al+Gore+wins+Nobel+Peace+Prize+for+climate+change+campaign/article.do

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/corporate_law/article2633838.ece

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071010140820.maha1rmv&show_article=1

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071012/D8S7MM180.html
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: myelo on October 12, 2007, 07:57:48 AM
Let's not jump to any conclusions yet. The Supreme Court could still weigh in on this.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: LePaul on October 12, 2007, 07:59:12 AM
Whose surprised?  This is the same group that gave Carter one.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: john9001 on October 12, 2007, 08:56:15 AM
Whose surprised?  This is the same group that gave Yasser Arafat the no bell peace prize. It just further reduces the credibility of the prize committee, but the winner still gets $1.5 million.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: FBBone on October 12, 2007, 08:57:20 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
...and there was a great gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands in the O'Club.

:rofl


I don't think its gnashing and wringing going on here, just the calling out of the Nobel Prize for the joke that it has become.  Honestly, the folks that hand it out aren't exactly unbiased.  

BTW.......good luck at the range this weekend!:aok
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Jackal1 on October 12, 2007, 09:02:23 AM
As long as Kurt Tank still has dubs on the pay telephone.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Trell on October 12, 2007, 09:09:23 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Whose surprised?  This is the same group that gave Carter one.


Carter deserves one,  He has done lots of work for peace AFTER his presidency.  don't think he was much of a president but cant complain about what he does with his life now.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Curval on October 12, 2007, 09:22:41 AM
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Originally posted by FBBone
I don't think its gnashing and wringing going on here, just the calling out of the Nobel Prize for the joke that it has become.  Honestly, the folks that hand it out aren't exactly unbiased.  

BTW.......good luck at the range this weekend!:aok


I know...I saw it on Yahoo news and was about to post about it but Neubob beat me to it.  That was my first thought when I saw it.

Never mind Carter, John's point about Arafat is spot on.  Arafat getting a peace prize made it ludicrous.

Thanks re the range.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 12, 2007, 09:28:04 AM
it takes alot to get the Nobel peace prize,
congrats Mr. Gore from here.

R
Gh0stFT
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Phaser11 on October 12, 2007, 09:44:40 AM
Others that were on the list

Other known nominations included:

1 Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez;
2 exiled Bangledeshi writer Taslima Nasrin;
3 former Illinois governor and anti-death penalty campaigner George Ryan;
4 the group Tiananmen Mothers, which represents families of those killed in the 1989 massacre in Beijing;
5 SOS-Children's Village, a charity that provides homes to abandoned and abused children worldwide;
6 and long-jailed Israeli nuclear technician Mordechai Vanunu.

The list also was believed to include the

International Atomic Energy Agency,
International Red Cross,
Save the Children,
Pope John Paul II
and former Czech President Vaclav Havel.

I'll be bringing this up at the dinner table tonight for my kids. I'll show them this list and see if they can find someone more deserving on it. As you can see there is.

This lesson will be titled, "The Nobel Pease Prize is now a bunch of crap." Anotherone bites the dust. I am sure glad he invented the Internet or I could not have got this information.

Information from USA Today and The Nobel web site.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AWMac on October 12, 2007, 10:25:22 AM
I predict that next years recipient will be....















(http://www.annanicolecoverup.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/6828_l.jpg)
The Peace Prize fits, so you know it's Legit.

Mac

*Still searching for the REAL Killers*
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: soda72 on October 12, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
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Originally posted by Phaser11
Others that were on the list

Other known nominations included:
1 Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez;


Please tell me your joking?

This is how Chavez keeps the peace....

Concert ban for 'Chavez critic' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7040800.stm)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 10:33:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
it takes alot to get the Nobel peace prize.


It sure does, and Al's just chock full of it.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 10:38:03 AM
HiTech should be nominated for next year
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Maverick on October 12, 2007, 10:43:32 AM
I'm confused. Just what does a docudrama based on climate change have to do with peace?
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 10:49:43 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
I'm confused. Just what does a docudrama based on climate change have to do with peace?


That's the point entirely.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: midnight Target on October 12, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
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"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"


Just trying to reduce the confusion.

WTG Al

<> and fair winds and green grass and ....
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Maverick on October 12, 2007, 10:54:09 AM
So the peace prize is now about docudramas with misinformation instead of ending hostile conflict. Check.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 11:02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
So the peace prize is now about docudramas with misinformation instead of ending hostile conflict. Check.


Well, it can also be about the organization, promotion and legitimization of terrorist groups, but who's really keeping track.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: soda72 on October 12, 2007, 11:03:05 AM
quote:
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"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater misinformation
about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the
measures that are needed to counteract such change"
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:noid
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Yeager on October 12, 2007, 11:06:07 AM
the jOkE that is aLgOrE continues :rolleyes:

As if Jimmeh Caughtaugh wasn't pathetic enough........

The Nobel peace prize is further diminished by this brazen act of political brown nosing.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 11:25:08 AM
I think that the charade is insultingly transparent.

Give  the walking colostomy bag the prize, raise his stock with the liberal herds, make him a marketable candidate, put him into the oval office and complete the total and utter castration of this country.

very tidy.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 11:31:12 AM
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Originally posted by soda72
quote:
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"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater misinformation
about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the
measures that are needed to counteract such change"
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:noid


Thanks for correcting that, you'd have thought the original editor would have caught a major mistake such as that.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2007, 11:33:16 AM
You think that only *NOW* the Nobel Peace Prize is defunct?


There was no doubt in my mind that it was utterly worthless the moment Yasser Arafat won it.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Tiger on October 12, 2007, 11:35:40 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You think that only *NOW* the Nobel Peace Prize is defunct?


There was no doubt in my mind that it was utterly worthless the moment Yasser Arafat won it.



You are correct, this just adds additional evidence.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lasersailor184 on October 12, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Trell
Carter deserves one,  He has done lots of work for peace AFTER his presidency.  don't think he was much of a president but cant complain about what he does with his life now.


What carter did AFTER his presidency was a joke as well.  He practically breast fed the most violent dictators and murderers in the world.  He is guilty by mere association.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: sluggish on October 12, 2007, 12:53:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
What carter did AFTER his presidency was a joke as well.  He practically breast fed the most violent dictators and murderers in the world.  He is guilty by mere association.


But he posed in front of a bunch of houses being built for poor people...



But seriously, what he and Clinton did with NK should have gotten both of them thrown in prison (Clinton will probably get the prize next...).
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: john9001 on October 12, 2007, 12:55:27 PM
"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"

in that case, this board should have won the prize. :lol
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: sluggish on October 12, 2007, 12:57:58 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"

in that case, this board should have won the prize. :lol


Actually, all the hot air blown around here is probably the root cause of the global warming here and on Mars...
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
A person who once said that cigarette smoking is a "significant contributor to global warming" should quit breathing and wasting precious oxygen.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2007, 01:21:23 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You think that only *NOW* the Nobel Peace Prize is defunct?


There was no doubt in my mind that it was utterly worthless the moment Yasser Arafat won it.


It happened much earlier, when Alexander Solzhenitsyn won a Literature prize and Andrey Sakharov won a Peace prize.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 01:28:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Boroda
It happened much earlier, when Alexander Solzhenitsyn won a Literature prize and Andrey Sakharov won a Peace prize.


Okay, I'm going to regret this, but....

What's wrong with Solzhenitsyn?
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Torque on October 12, 2007, 01:49:14 PM
arafat is same fry... they gave one to kissinger.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2007, 02:12:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Neubob
Okay, I'm going to regret this, but....

What's wrong with Solzhenitsyn?


Pure political decision, his works are far from literature, except, probably "One day...". Especially "Archipelago" that won the prize for him. But, no doubt, his clumsy lies can't be compared to global warming hype.

I see you agree about Sakharov? ;)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Boroda on October 12, 2007, 02:12:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Torque
arafat is same fry... they gave one to kissinger.


And to Gorbachev.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 02:20:03 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Pure political decision, his works are far from literature, except, probably "One day...". Especially "Archipelago" that won the prize for him. But, no doubt, his clumsy lies can't be compared to global warming hype.

I see you agree about Sakharov? ;)


Sakharov did work, earlier in his career, that would have made his bid for a peace prize questionable. His efforts to reverse the potentially catastrophic effects of his scientific ambition was admirable, but I can at least see how he's a mixed bag when it comes to this question

Solzhenitsyn, on the other hand, exposed a monstrocity. And you can deny it up and down, but I've had family members and close family friends that served in the gulags. People I've met, talked to, listened to--people's whose scars I have seen with my own eyes. These aren't traitors either, even though I'm sure you'll think of them as such. These are writers, artists, doctors. Normal people whose humanity was perhaps just a bit too strong for their own good. Even the hardest hardliners I've talked to have nothing to say when asked about Stalin's penchant for cruel and unusual punishment.

To deny this is just revisionist self-delusion, Pasha. This is my Rodina too, remember, but it's a shameful chapter in its history. To pretend that it's a lie is almost on par with the act itself.

I know you like to preach about the glory days of the CCCP, Pasha, but don't try to bull**** me. Thanks in advance.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Nilsen on October 12, 2007, 02:39:44 PM
Well deserved Mr Gore! :)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Elfie on October 12, 2007, 02:48:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Trell
Carter deserves one,  He has done lots of work for peace AFTER his presidency.  don't think he was much of a president but cant complain about what he does with his life now.


Didn't Carter play a significant role in getting Israel and Egypt to sign a peace treaty and that was why he won the Nobel Peace Prize?

I'm just curious as to what Al Gore has done in the name of Peace that earned him the Nobel Peace Prize?
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: straffo on October 12, 2007, 03:42:09 PM
this place is full of crap and chitty republibots
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 03:45:55 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
this place is full of crap and chitty republibots


In all fairness, it's not as full, but still moderately populated by estrogen-saturated, brainwashed liberal sheep... The cool thing is that even a modestly observant person should be able to accurately guess which is which by doing nothing more than looking at the poster's location.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: GtoRA2 on October 12, 2007, 03:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by Neubob
In all fairness, it's not as full, but still moderately populated by estrogen-saturated, brainwashed liberal sheep... The cool thing is that even a modestly observant person should be able to accurately guess which is which just by looking at the poster's location.


So from your location we can tell you are an *******?;)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 12, 2007, 03:51:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
So from your location we can tell you are an *******?;)


Absa****inglutely

but a gun-owning ******* who would choose capitalism and a broken leg over socialism and an ice-cream cone with sprinkles--just to make things clear.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Shifty on October 12, 2007, 04:23:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
WTG Al

<> and fair winds and green grass and ....


Agreed.

Run along now Al and do your part. Flying in Jets to Oslo, and riding in SUVs stateside to spread the gospel, telling the rest of us we shouldn't be doing the same.:lol
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Dago on October 12, 2007, 04:50:09 PM
Gore had to take on global warming, after all, he has a lot of free time now that he is not spending all his time trying to rent out the Lincoln bedroom to Chinese contributors to the Democratic Party.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: clerick on October 12, 2007, 06:04:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Neubob
I think that the charade is insultingly transparent.

Give  the walking colostomy bag the prize, raise his stock with the liberal herds, make him a marketable candidate, put him into the oval office and complete the total and utter castration of this country.

very tidy.


I don't think he will run, but I'm sure as heck convinced that whoever Algore taps  for the Democratic nomination will be the one we see run in '08, and i don't think that he likes Hillary much after she stole his thunder in 2000.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 12, 2007, 06:16:43 PM
It's not that Arafat got one, its that someone did not receive a Nobel Peace prize that is its greatest blemish.

(http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/42/MPW-21175)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: RedTop on October 12, 2007, 06:30:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
The Nobel peace prize is further diminished by this brazen act of political brown nosing.


Know what the difference is in brown nosing and butt kissing?







Depth perception.......



Nobel committee needs an eye exam.:)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 12, 2007, 06:38:03 PM
So, 50 years from now when the oceans haven't flooded all coastal cities everywhere and the green areas didn't become deserts and vice versa, they'll look back and tip their hats to the man who saved us from the Global Warming. WTG Al :aok
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: SteveBailey on October 12, 2007, 06:40:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Trell
Carter deserves one,  He has done lots of work for peace AFTER his presidency.  don't think he was much of a president but cant complain about what he does with his life now.


You might feel this way.... unless you are Jewish/Israeli.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 12, 2007, 07:12:48 PM
Anwar Sadat should have gotten the Nobel they gave Carter. Sadat EARNED it, it was Sadat who took the risks, and paid with his life. Giving Carter the prize was not at all unlike giving Super Bowl rings to the player's agents.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 12, 2007, 07:20:44 PM
Let us not forget that Carter is the first former President in recent history not to do the honorable and traditional thing for former Presidents to do. Keep their mouth shut, and keep their bellybutton retired instead of making a public spectacle of themselves. It's great that Carter devotes his time to "Habitat for Humanity". But he is NO LONGER the President, and HAS NOT BEEN for over 25 YEARS. He should do what tradition and honor calls for, and keep HIS MOUTH SHUT and his NOSE OUT OF FOREIGN POLICY. It is not the place for former Presidents to do what he has. He should be ashamed of himself, but I don't think he has any shame. After the debacle that was his presidency, he should just shut up.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 12, 2007, 08:27:41 PM
What does crying about global warming have to do with world peace? pfft.

N-O-T-H-I-N-G


what a crock of BS
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 12, 2007, 08:30:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Boroda
Pure political decision, his works are far from literature, except, probably "One day...". Especially "Archipelago" that won the prize for him. But, no doubt, his clumsy lies can't be compared to global warming hype.


*rolling my eyes*
Hey, I just noticed that there's not a "rolling my eyes" smiley face on here.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Shamus on October 12, 2007, 08:51:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Gore had to take on global warming, after all, he has a lot of free time now that he is not spending all his time trying to rent out the Lincoln bedroom to Chinese contributors to the Democratic Party.


I think that was Clinton, back then unlike now, it was customary for the POTUS to have control of the white house.

shamus
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Kermit de frog on October 12, 2007, 09:10:59 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
*rolling my eyes*
Hey, I just noticed that there's not a "rolling my eyes" smiley face on here.


:rolleyes:
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 12, 2007, 09:23:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kermit de frog
:rolleyes:

:)  Thanks Kermit. I was looking for the one where they roll from one side up over the top side & come to rest on the other side.  Ya know, the 'omg you have GOT to be kidding' kinda rolling your eyes. :D
But you're right. that one should do in a pinch for sure.:rolleyes:
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Xargos on October 12, 2007, 10:21:47 PM
Gore got the prize for his discovery of ManBearPig.




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Quote


Anwar Sadat should have gotten the Nobel they gave Carter. Sadat EARNED it, it was Sadat who took the risks, and paid with his life.


:aok
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bj229r on October 12, 2007, 10:54:10 PM
Over last decade, it seems all major awards seem to be 1 group of LIBerals giving an award to aNOTHER group of LIBerals, provided they are supporting a LIBeral cause (Micheal Moore, Jimma, Arafat, AlGore, Dixie Chicks...) There are prolly a few more, but the names escape me at the moment. If ONLY Che Guevara were still alive.......
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: rpm on October 13, 2007, 12:07:42 AM
Gore -1

O' Club -0
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on October 13, 2007, 12:38:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Gore -1

O' Club -0


Actually, maybe Gore fooled you, and the Nobel committee, but he didn't fool the rest of us.

So it's
Gore                     1
RPM                      0
Nobel Committee 0
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: JB88 on October 13, 2007, 01:00:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Gore -1

O' Club -0


lolz

:D
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: moot on October 13, 2007, 01:22:52 AM
Nobel PR Prize
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 13, 2007, 08:30:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Gore -1

O' Club -0


Must get old having your own saliva tasting like bull****.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Jackal1 on October 13, 2007, 09:21:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Neubob
Must get old having your own saliva tasting like bull****.


Oh I don`t know. The libs have been feeding it to themselves so long I think that they have convinced themselves that it tastes good and have developed a palate for it. Sort of like caviar....................... ..with more fiber.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 13, 2007, 12:15:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Gore -1
O' Club -0

Gore's a putz. Who care's if he's one-up on the O-club. That man's a waste of oxygen, despite his worthless efforts.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: rpm on October 13, 2007, 12:44:17 PM
Mom, at least he's interested in keeping the oxygen around.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Boroda on October 13, 2007, 01:03:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Neubob
Sakharov did work, earlier in his career, that would have made his bid for a peace prize questionable. His efforts to reverse the potentially catastrophic effects of his scientific ambition was admirable, but I can at least see how he's a mixed bag when it comes to this question


We know very little about Sakharov's "humanitarian" ideas. Very few things are left, and I'll not waste my time on any "dissident" reasonings.

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Originally posted by Neubob
Solzhenitsyn, on the other hand, exposed a monstrocity. And you can deny it up and down, but I've had family members and close family friends that served in the gulags. People I've met, talked to, listened to--people's whose scars I have seen with my own eyes. These aren't traitors either, even though I'm sure you'll think of them as such. These are writers, artists, doctors. Normal people whose humanity was perhaps just a bit too strong for their own good. Even the hardest hardliners I've talked to have nothing to say when asked about Stalin's penchant for cruel and unusual punishment.


A "monstrocity" was exposed by dr. Goebbels 30 years before Solzhenitsyn...

Solzhenitsyn's "work" is a collection of myths and fiction. Take a look at this: http://kampus.tomsk.ru/index.php?newsid=135

Did you try reading him in Russian? He's horrible.

Now he's a "Russian nationalist", a person who advocated Germans in WWI...

His political career is nothing but a matter of collaborationism. A part of a campaign against USSR in 1970s. Like Bzezinsky said later, they used "human rights" only as an instrument of pressure, no one in the Western leadership _ever_ cared about poor Soviet Jews.

Another thing is that becoming a "Russian nationalist" Alexander Isayevich openly said that all his numbers that he gave in Archipelago were sucked out of finger.

I have said that my family suffered enough in Stalin's times, but there is a certain difference between my GrandFather who kept serving after he was released and all charges were dropped and this home-made prophet living on CIA money. He moved to Russia only in 1993, probably after they stopped paying him.

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Originally posted by Neubob
To deny this is just revisionist self-delusion, Pasha. This is my Rodina too, remember, but it's a shameful chapter in its history. To pretend that it's a lie is almost on par with the act itself.

I know you like to preach about the glory days of the CCCP, Pasha, but don't try to bull**** me. Thanks in advance.


It's quite silly to deny "repressions", especially for a person from a family like mine. But people in the West base their opinions on Solzhenitsyn's "works", seeing only one side of the coin. Yes, it was a horrible time, but, fortunately, we survived a much greater threat.

Here's a collection of interesting links in Russian: http://semen-serpent.livejournal.com/291277.html

The truth about "repressions" is open now, for those who want to compare it with Solzhenitsyn's bull****. And it's painful to see how this hallucinations become "Party line" now.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 13, 2007, 01:09:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Mom, at least he's interested in keeping the oxygen around.

RPM = always the optimist. :)  
I'm thankful you can find something nice to say about him. I'm not even going to make the effort.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Shifty on October 13, 2007, 01:31:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
Mom, at least he's interested in keeping the oxygen around.


Of course he is, he needs massive amounts of it to convert to hot air.

Seriously, who do you know that's not on favor of keeping oxygen around?:lol
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bj229r on October 13, 2007, 01:33:15 PM
Perhaps he will use his new-found celebrity to go to India and China, who have the dirtiest air in the world.......:noid
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Tigeress on October 13, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
I think his invention of the Internet was more profound... not

This is like Howard Cosell winning the World Heavy Weight Boxing Title.

What the heck are they thinking???

TIGERESS
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Chairboy on October 13, 2007, 02:25:43 PM
In a surprise vote of 5 to 4, the United States Supreme Court have declared George W. Bush the winner of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: john9001 on October 13, 2007, 02:46:16 PM
i think we should have a recount of the peace prize vote. Maybe there were some hanging chads.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Chairboy on October 13, 2007, 02:51:38 PM
So, it's been 7 years, and you still haven't learned that 'chad' is also the plural of chad?
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: john9001 on October 13, 2007, 02:59:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Chairboy
So, it's been 7 years, and you still haven't learned that 'chad' is also the plural of chad?


i did not knows that chairsboys.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 13, 2007, 03:04:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Chairboy
So, it's been 7 years, and you still haven't learned that 'chad' is also the plural of chad?


Someone at the wiki appears to disagree with you. Might wanna set 'em straight?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_(paper)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Chairboy on October 13, 2007, 03:30:55 PM
Interesting, while chad is the proper plural,  Macmillan sez that 'chads' has recently appeared.  

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/new-words/041101-chad.htm

Meh.  Language is dumb, we should stick to something simple like interpretive dance.  :D
Title: Steve Jobs is pleased
Post by: Scatcat on October 13, 2007, 05:44:11 PM
Was on the Apple.com site today and they seem to be pleased about Al's award.  apple.com (http://www.apple.com)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Louis XVII on October 13, 2007, 05:46:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Curval
...and there was a great gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands in the O'Club.

:rofl


^ :rofl


:aok
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 14, 2007, 04:45:27 AM
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Originally posted by texasmom
What does crying about global warming have to do with world peace? pfft.

N-O-T-H-I-N-G


what a crock of BS


it has everything to do,
aprox 6 Billions humans populate our planet Earth today and growing,
its about how to feed them all, its about the future energy consumption, oil, nuclear, wind ect. We dont have endless resources, and all this
comming challenges could lead to fight not more for oil but for water.
With the help of global warming this problems could come even faster.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: moot on October 14, 2007, 05:43:28 AM
Maybe if the majority of those billions got off their bovine habits of sheer consumption for little if any contribution to progress?
6 Billion wouldn't be a problem not only if consumption was more efficient, but also if we weren't reduced to the planet's habitat.  Global warming just taps at people's knees for a jerk reaction, without getting them any closer to realizing the full picture.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Shuckins on October 14, 2007, 06:30:26 AM
Can Gore exchange his Nobel Prize for carbon credits for his Tennessee mansion?
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lazs2 on October 14, 2007, 09:08:44 AM
yep ghost..  we will run out of oil and water just like we have run out of...

uhhh... what have we run out of?

lazs
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Hap on October 14, 2007, 09:27:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
it takes alot to get the Nobel peace prize,
congrats Mr. Gore from here.

R
Gh0stFT


Ditto!

He's done more good than I have during my time on earth.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: moot on October 14, 2007, 09:59:25 AM
Lazs, we'll run out of space sooner or later. You see this yourself (unless I'm mistaken) in Kali.  And instinctively people probably would rather have more space than not, probably on the scale of a continent or two (if they were left to choose).
And if this isn't true for most people, it's true for enough that all the space in the world is already too little.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: bj229r on October 14, 2007, 10:02:40 AM
Does ANYone think that the things Gore points to as the major causes of 'climate change' will still be the order of the day 100 years from now?. It would seem the  fossil fuel issue will work itself out, then they can find some OTHER thing to deride capitalism about
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lazs2 on October 14, 2007, 10:13:07 AM
moot.. where have we run out of space?   why are we destined to?  I can't see the future but...  even without a computer model.. I see the populations of much of the worlds civilized countries declining.    the pest hole countries will have war or famine or disease to thin the numbers... any of a number of things will happen before we overpopulate.

I just get tired of the knee jerk "the sky is falling" crap all the time.   It never happens but a new disaster scenario is never far off of the last failed one.

I am waiting to see the "we have now run out of #####" announcement.... it never happens.

We would be out of about 100 important resources by now if you believed everything the alarmist have said in the last 5 decades or so.

run out of oil?  oooooops... discover the biggest field ever next year...  run out of water?  impossible.    every drop there ever was is still here.

lazs
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 14, 2007, 11:51:37 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
We would be out of about 100 important resources by now if you believed everything the alarmist have said in the last 5 decades or so.


(http://www.cgsev.de/bilder/strauss.gif)

imagine how it would look today without the will some people have
(alarmists how you call them) to achieve something in just a few points:

a) preserve the nature,
b) help 3rd world countrys with food & aid
b) preserve animals and theyr livingspace
c) try to keep the water & air clean

and you are talking nothing big happened the last years ?
man you must be living behind the moon.

and the best thing is all this is made for all, not just for the left,
even people like you will gain from this, especialy your next generation.

r
GhostFT
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Neubob on October 14, 2007, 11:55:23 AM
Seems like the two points you have listed as 'b' will only result in the production of more methane--which is more harmful as a greenhouse gas than Carbon Dioxide.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 14, 2007, 12:12:08 PM
thats why we have this discussion today,
we have to think about new ways and new techonlogies.
To safe our life-standard for the future.
And if it fails it will first hit 3rd world countrys and that will
affect us and our way of life, if you like it or not.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: straffo on October 14, 2007, 12:23:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
yep ghost..  we will run out of oil and water just like we have run out of...

uhhh... what have we run out of?

lazs




 common sense
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 14, 2007, 12:24:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
thats why we have this discussion today,
we have to think about new ways and new techonlogies.
To safe our life-standard for the future.
And if it fails it will first hit 3rd world countrys and that will
affect us and our way of life, if you like it or not.


Which is all well & good.  Good thing to do.

However, that's got absolutely nothing to do with world peace.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lazs2 on October 14, 2007, 12:27:28 PM
so you sissies can't really come up with anything that we have run out of?

lazs
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 14, 2007, 12:27:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texasmom
Which is all well & good.  Good thing to do.

However, that's got absolutely nothing to do with world peace.


I hate trying to be the advocate of the devil but discontent in the world is what causes a lack of peace. imho
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 14, 2007, 12:30:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
We dont have endless resources, and all this comming challenges could lead to fight not more for oil but for water.  With the help of global warming this problems could come even faster.


But with 70% of the fresh water locked away in the southern ice cap, we will have more than triple the liquid fresh water if we melt Antarctica.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 14, 2007, 12:33:18 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
But with 70% of the fresh water locked away in the southern ice cap, we will have more than triple the liquid fresh water if we melt Antarctica.


but... but... think of the history in all that ice... lost forever... in the rain....
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Pooh21 on October 14, 2007, 12:33:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
so you sissies can't really come up with anything that we have run out of?

lazs
I'll help our liberal sissy friends and say Dodo birds.

the real ones. not our liberal sissy friends.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lazs2 on October 14, 2007, 12:43:30 PM
I don't really consider them a "resource".

lazs
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: texasmom on October 14, 2007, 12:46:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
I hate trying to be the advocate of the devil but discontent in the world is what causes a lack of peace. imho


Which is all well & good ~ discontent causes a lack of peace.  
However, making an effort to 'stop global warming' and a preventing a state of discontent have nothing to do with one another.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 14, 2007, 12:51:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texasmom
Which is all well & good ~ discontent causes a lack of peace.  
However, making an effort to 'stop global warming' and a preventing a state of discontent have nothing to do with one another.


Well, if the doom sayers are right and habitable regions become uninhabitable the contentment level of the inhabitants is likely to decline.
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 14, 2007, 01:15:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texasmom
Which is all well & good ~ discontent causes a lack of peace.  
However, making an effort to 'stop global warming' and a preventing a state of discontent have nothing to do with one another.


A lack of peace?

Does congress have the power to declare a lack of peace? ;)
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: Maverick on October 14, 2007, 02:09:27 PM
Holden,

I think they can declare a state of "unpeace" but I'm not sure if they have the authority to declare peace.....
:p

Quite a few have gotten in trouble for getting caught getting a piece.......:t :D
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: AKIron on October 20, 2007, 10:30:38 AM
Dang courts, always trying to take what's rightfully Al's. ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303525,00.html
Title: Al Gore invents the Nobel Peace Prize
Post by: lazs2 on October 20, 2007, 10:42:25 AM
gores movie is only incorrect when it talks about science or global warming or politics.

the photos are nice tho without the background noise.   throw out the 25 or so minutes where he butchers science and politics... leave out the narration by the arrogant blowhard and it is a nice picture book.

"The great global warming swindle" was much better... lot's of real science.. no drama or pleas to be liked.. in fact.. no one but real scientists and real people who were there in the politics...  no filler at all...  gores movie is about 70% fluff and drama bits with no pretense of science.

I would hope his prize had nothing to do with the now discredited joke of a "documentary".

lazs