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Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Nimrod45 on October 13, 2007, 03:55:52 PM
I almost always fly the LA-5/7.  But I am really thinking about a different plane, now I don't like to hop back and forth to different planes, I like to stick to one.  The LA doesn't work well as a fighter bomber because of a lack of ord so I am trying to decide btween the Corsair, Hellcat, and P-38 Lighting.  Any recomendations.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: UNIstrut on October 13, 2007, 04:12:12 PM
My Preference out of them 3 would be the P38.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Morpheus on October 13, 2007, 04:13:01 PM
my recomendation would be to fly them all. Its the only way your truly going to learn how to fight them all.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: jhookt on October 13, 2007, 04:19:03 PM
the hellcat is a simple plane for me, i find that the 38 and corsair are a little hard to fly to the max potential. i would think the question you should ask is what are you looking for in your next plane? you want a challenging plane to fly? and what flying style are you more likely to use?

for me, how i fly a plane is more important than what plane i fly.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Lusche on October 13, 2007, 04:19:25 PM
Hop each plane and fly a few sorties, then decide. Nobody can really tell you what to fly at this point.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Simaril on October 13, 2007, 04:23:42 PM
What Morph said.

Since you are used to a fast plane, and probably more familiar with energy type fighting, consider the F4U family. Once you get comfortable with one of them (prob the F4U-1A to start), there are only differences in degree from one to the next (ie one is a bit faster, one carries more fuel and so is heavier, etc) . The crossover means that you have a familiar corsair in EW, MW, and LW arenas; you have planes for almost every ENY situation; you have carrier availability and fighter bomber versions; and you have several perk planes including the consensus choice for best prop plane in the game.

And learning the corsair will give you real ACM experience. The F4Us are wonderful at the rollilng scissor, and once flaps go down they dont turn too badly at all. But, they are heavy and take a while to get up to speed -- so if you slow her down, plan on killing everything there or dying!

The P38 is also mostly energy fighter, and it has great guns right there in the nose. It excells in the vertical -- but while many masters love it, it takes a while to learn well and is easy to fly badly. If you DO fly it badly, it is a very, very big target.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: humble on October 13, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
Agreeing that you need to fly them all I'd offer the F6F as the easiest transition. The hog and 38 are both exceptional when flown to there full potential. It's a bit easier to get more out of the F6F which is "uber" in its own right...
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: moneyguy on October 13, 2007, 04:56:51 PM
start with the hellcat. once you've mastered it move up to the hog.
Title: Re: Trading Wings.
Post by: dedalos on October 13, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I almost always fly the LA-5/7.  But I am really thinking about a different plane, now I don't like to hop back and forth to different planes, I like to stick to one.  The LA doesn't work well as a fighter bomber because of a lack of ord so I am trying to decide btween the Corsair, Hellcat, and P-38 Lighting.  Any recomendations.


I assume you are not looking for a chalenge and you are just asking for what is the best plane of the 3 mentioned.  If thats the case, go with the F4U-1D or C
Title: Re: Trading Wings.
Post by: LYNX on October 13, 2007, 06:30:34 PM
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I almost always fly the LA-5/7.  But I am really thinking about a different plane, now I don't like to hop back and forth to different planes, I like to stick to one.  The LA doesn't work well as a fighter bomber because of a lack of ord so I am trying to decide btween the Corsair, Hellcat, and P-38 Lighting.  Any recomendations.


From what you say about ords I would rule out the P38 for just 2 reasons.  In AH it is very prone to pilot wounds and engine hits off of field ack.  Bad enough losing 1 engine but the PW is a real blighter.  If you do use it in a jabo role make sure someone else has gotten the ack :)

The F6f is excellent and is my personal favourite of the 3 you mention. It climbs marginally a little better than the F4 with ords on board.  However, it may not be your cup of tea if you prefer speed.

The F4d is very versatile when we talk of ords.  Just give yourself some climbing space.  It to is an excellent fighter but as previously mentioned, be absolutely sure as to when to get it slow.  It does need some winding up.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Nimrod45 on October 13, 2007, 06:39:14 PM
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Originally posted by jhookt
the hellcat is a simple plane for me, i find that the 38 and corsair are a little hard to fly to the max potential. i would think the question you should ask is what are you looking for in your next plane? you want a challenging plane to fly? and what flying style are you more likely to use?

for me, how i fly a plane is more important than what plane i fly.


I'm prone to getting into a furball, deffinatly more interested in climb rate and acceleration than I am in top speed.  I have had a little luck in the F6F as it is what I will usually take off of a carrier.  If the LA had more gas and carried some ord I would stick with it, but the way it is you are limited.  Also I am deffinatly interested in a challenge or else I would be playing in a simulator against the computer and not other people.
Title: Re: Re: Trading Wings.
Post by: Nimrod45 on October 13, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
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Originally posted by dedalos
I assume you are not looking for a chalenge and you are just asking for what is the best plane of the 3 mentioned.  If thats the case, go with the F4U-1D or C


I have tried the F4U-1C and it seems to be really heavy and unmanueverable.  I wouldn't mind a challenge.  I guess my question would be which has the most versatility and potential, not what would be best right off the bat.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Major Biggles on October 13, 2007, 06:50:28 PM
F4u-1A, it's a great plane. if furballing is your type of thing it's a lot of fun.

i personally think it's miles ahead of the other hogs, even the -4
Title: Re: Re: Re: Trading Wings.
Post by: moneyguy on October 13, 2007, 07:18:18 PM
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I have tried the F4U-1C and it seems to be really heavy and unmanueverable.  I wouldn't mind a challenge.  I guess my question would be which has the most versatility and potential, not what would be best right off the bat.



when flown correctly, F4U's are some of the best manuvering planes in the game in my opinion.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Nimrod45 on October 13, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
I was just talking specifically about the C model.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: WaRLoCkL on October 13, 2007, 07:29:51 PM
Well I will offer my input on this since those 3 planes are my favorites.

The P-38 and f6f will be easy changovers, howerver u will have to change your fighting style since u will no longer be the fastest thing in the sky. Alot can catch u so u must learn how to old energy and your ACms.

Both offer great fuel and ordinance.

However if u are looking for a challenge then go with the corsair, it has many different variations for whatever u are trying to do and sticking with one plane will improve your flying ability as well as your gunnery.

I can destroy targets easily with a corsair or f6f because im use to the 50cals and the crossover convergance. however switching tothe p-38 i find my aim is not so good.

With stall limiter off the corsair can do amazing manuvers, however overdoing it will result in a horrible stall that can sometimes be unrecoverable.

Most people will fly the Corsair a few times, and thing of it as a slow hunk of junk that cant turn or run away. It is one of the slowest accelorators so keeping speed is key. However once u master it, reversals come easy, and u can easily trick, outmanuver most any plane.

The corsair is one of the best turners at HIGH speeds. and at 250 with a notch of flaps it can out turn some spits going the same speed.

If u want to learn to fly the p-38 talk to Mrdr who is a Trainer, corsairs, i would go to Mtnman or saber, AKdogg or some others, there are some great corsair sticks. For the f6f im not really sure i have come across a master in that plane yet, as most aces dont use them very often because they fall in the turn and burn class of planes.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Spikes on October 13, 2007, 09:05:25 PM
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Originally posted by UNIstrut
My Preference out of them 3 would be the P38.


Agreed.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: Connery on October 13, 2007, 09:26:11 PM
If you're looking for a good f6f pilot you should perhaps approach greebo I think he flies it a lot and is pretty hot in it!
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: ariansworld on October 13, 2007, 09:33:23 PM
if you can learn the 38 and the hog you should be able to fly them all.
Title: Trading Wings.
Post by: McDeath on October 13, 2007, 10:37:28 PM
Lol, i dont have my glasses on and thought this thread was about changing women. I realized way to late and replied anyway.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Trading Wings.
Post by: dedalos on October 14, 2007, 10:24:13 AM
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
I have tried the F4U-1C and it seems to be really heavy and unmanueverable.  I wouldn't mind a challenge.  I guess my question would be which has the most versatility and potential, not what would be best right off the bat.


F4Us feel heavy but they are not.  They are close to the best turning planes in the game, good speed, and lots of ord or fuel with DTs
Title: Fly them all...then decide...
Post by: Patches1 on October 15, 2007, 09:31:24 AM
But, if you choose to fly the Corsair in an air-to-ground roll, I recommend learning the F4U-1D. It will feel heavy until the Ordnance is released, but then, it's 3,000 pounds lighter and can hold its own in a furball once you regain altitude.

Corsairs are an unforgiving airplane with a wicked stall if abused, but very nimble and deadly when flown to potential.

Fly them all...then decide.

Good Luck!