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Hi all,
Last night was a classic furball situation in LW Orange. It was that all landmass map and where the three country's bases are in close proximity, that little triangle thing, there was a constant furball going on.
Generally in this situation I take a Spit- usually the Spit 16. It turns great, doesn't really compress, and has enough spunk to play fast and also play turny.
Anyway, I'm kinda bored with the Spit, but I don't really know what else to take into a full on furball situation. Something that is going to be able to hold its own when there's red icons everywhere.
I see alot of Ponys (especially last night) but I don't know that the Pony is really a furball'n plane.
I've been eyeing the N1K. I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
At any rate, what do y'all think? What else should a spit driver be trying out in the AH lineup?
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Hi all,
Last night was a classic furball situation in LW Orange. It was that all landmass map and where the three country's bases are in close proximity, that little triangle thing, there was a constant furball going on.
Generally in this situation I take a Spit- usually the Spit 16. It turns great, doesn't really compress, and has enough spunk to play fast and also play turny.
Anyway, I'm kinda bored with the Spit, but I don't really know what else to take into a full on furball situation. Something that is going to be able to hold its own when there's red icons everywhere.
I see alot of Ponys (especially last night) but I don't know that the Pony is really a furball'n plane.
I've been eyeing the N1K. I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
At any rate, what do y'all think? What else should a spit driver be trying out in the AH lineup?
A LA7?:lol
gusman44
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vw beetle ...turns better than a spit :)
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Hurricane Mk IIC. Lighter than a Spit, with more hizookaz. :)
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I like taking the F6F there.
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real men furball in 109E
:furious
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You should seriously consider the Bf 109F-4.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Hurricane Mk IIC. Lighter than a Spit, with more hizookaz. :)
I agree with that.. Hurri 2 is a good choice, Ki84 is another good one.
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Originally posted by Lusche
You should seriously consider the Bf 109F-4.
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Actually a FM2 would be good, a little underpowered but turns great and takes alot more punishment then a Spit
gusman44
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Zero if your not afraid to -really- get in the fight. :D
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Here you go... a furball ride:
(http://www.catsonlykennel.com/kennel/Jakehorseop.JPG)
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Real men fly the 109k4.
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Originally posted by gusman
I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
gusman44
weak? ....bah...not hardly
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Originally posted by toonces3
Hi all,
Last night was a classic furball situation in LW Orange. It was that all landmass map and where the three country's bases are in close proximity, that little triangle thing, there was a constant furball going on.
Generally in this situation I take a Spit- usually the Spit 16. It turns great, doesn't really compress, and has enough spunk to play fast and also play turny.
Anyway, I'm kinda bored with the Spit, but I don't really know what else to take into a full on furball situation. Something that is going to be able to hold its own when there's red icons everywhere.
I see alot of Ponys (especially last night) but I don't know that the Pony is really a furball'n plane.
I've been eyeing the N1K. I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
At any rate, what do y'all think? What else should a spit driver be trying out in the AH lineup?
Niki is good. 109G2- F4 are ok. F4U-1D or 1C and always, the P40
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Originally posted by gusman
I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
gusman44
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:noid
I didn't post this
gusman44
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B Pony or F4U-1A.
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really real men furball in the p40
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P-38... any flavor.
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I've been furballing in a hurri 1. Turns like nothing else in the game, and if you get close enough those 8 303s are lethal.
Don't plan on running away though. Or landing kills.
Do plan on earning more perks than you'll ever be able to use. LA-7's run at 5 to 9 per kill :D
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Yak-9U
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Originally posted by gusman
I've been eyeing the N1K. I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
Lemme know when you wish to "Test" this theory.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Lemme know when you wish to "Test" this theory.
:t
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Originally posted by reeb
really real men furball in the p40
We know that. We want to know what you fly though :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by dedalos
We know that. We want to know what you fly though :rofl :rofl :rofl
:lol :rofl :lol :rofl
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Originally posted by 68Wooley
I've been furballing in a hurri 1. Turns like nothing else in the game, and if you get close enough those 8 303s are lethal.
Don't plan on running away though. Or landing kills.
Do plan on earning more perks than you'll ever be able to use. LA-7's run at 5 to 9 per kill :D
Where the Hurr I really starts to shine is in furballs resulting by an enemy CV attacking the base. All cons are usually very low and (quite important) very slow.
Here you can fully utilize the amazing tight turning radius and your gun battery. You can then even land your kills. ;)
Especially fun is hunting Zeros. Most Zero pilots are so used to the fact that even a rather lazy turn will prevent any enemy from following, that a Hurri I comes as a bad surprise to them :t
I used that lil crate as my primary ride in tour 92, and to some extend in tour 91 too. Much fun :)
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I know this isn't much of a plane for furballing, but If you get the hold on it nothing can stop you. It's fast and not to agile, It has 30mm so any shot will get you the kill and also if you kill a spit sixteen then you got at least 4 perks. Real men fly the 190 A-8 in a furball
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F4u4
It has the power and speed along with it being a great turn fighter. Bring the furrrr into the furball and drop those flaps.
In a furball the last thing i would ever be in is a 190a8.
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Since you were flying a spit.... your better off flying another easy aircraft like the hurri or something. They pretty much fly themselves too.
I thought at first you were looking for a challenge. Although most early war types should be fun and more interesting.
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Originally posted by FX1
In a furball the last thing i would ever be in is a 190a8.
Amen to that.
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I landed 6 kills in 2 furball sorties in a 190A-8 last week. Much fun.
As to the Hurri I I was on one of those land-locked maps a few camps ago. The enemy were coming over a gently sloping mountain and diving into our base. I set up camp about 3/4 of the way up the hill and the Spit XVI's in particular just couldn't resist coming after me. I landed several Spit kills that day landing between 18 and 24 perks per sortie :)
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KI84 is quite a bit tougher than a Zeke (late war - more armor). It's also a great furballer because it dumps and gains speed quickly, turns nice, and climbs well. Flaps are only good at real low speeds and only have 2 settings, but if it does get that slow, she can float around great right above stall.
It's also great at catching B&Z planes that try to extend once they realize they blew too much E. It accelerates better than the fast heavy rides and you can often catch them before they get up to speed.
1/2 a tank handles most furball situations and best of all...it comes in a bunch of colors!
Aspen
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I landed 6 kills in 2 furball sorties in a 190A-8 last week. Much fun.
no offence sir, but i can get 5 kills in a 190A8 flying in a furball. that does not mean i am actualy furballing.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
no offence sir, but i can get 5 kills in a 190A8 flying in a furball. that does not mean i am actualy furballing.
Well, I actually WAS furballing. Not that I'd do that very often. Just lucky that night I guess.
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
real men furball in 109E
:furious
109E is absolutely a blast to fly....easily my favorite ride.
but if you really want to get someones attention you need to bring the sawzall to the party
(http://sp1.mm-a2.yimg.com/image/2313444327)
:aok :aok :aok
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D3A1, I take no bombs and about 50-75% fuel. It will get you to any furball. It's a major challenge, I have yet to land more than 2 kills. And that was only once.
You will outturn anything. Anything. I've outturned Zeros at full flaps, and made them look bad on the deck. Mind you gunnery is important since 7.62mm guns just don't have much punch. Use your rudder to help you roll, she's got big butterfly wings. And just don't like to roll quick. Kinda like the Typhoon from what I hear.
But if you find people, like I do, that tend to think 'lolol my spit/La/Yak/Zero/Insert Turn Fighter here/ can outturn that little Dive Bomber! Lolol!' then you can give them a biiiiiig suprise. Mind you have to keep those pings on them to hurt them, I get Assits 9 out of 10 times. But each and every one of my kills are so worth it. So. Worth. It. Because they'll just keep turning, and hope you fall out of the sky. And you won't.
Stay low, low low, trees trying to reach out and tear off your gear low. It adds to the 'I can outturn him!" idea, since if they stall, well, they auger. D3As Don't stall hard, and barely stall below about 100mph (with flaps, It's hard to say how important those are, you can turn with just flaps.) So by the time you fall out of the sky, they're on the ground.
Don't underestimate its Dive Flaps either, they're not Fowlers, and they won't increase your turn rate by themselves, but they'll slow you down, and let'cha' cut corners like a madman.
Word of warning, you do catch fire like crazy (IJN, how dare!) and you tend to be a magnet for just about anything that feels to add something to its kills list (I am constantly picked over Co-alt LAs, and Spitfires. So much fun. :rolleyes: )
But, from what I've seen, you're slightly tougher than a Zero. Very slightly. And much trickier to shoot down in one pass (I think it has to do with the factor that D3As are rare things in the Main Arena, the average person just doesn't have any experience against it.) Keep your SA up (You should in every plane! No telling when someone has you in his sights!) and kinda fly it like Zero, I suppose.
Psyche people out. Fly like a bomber, move like a bomber, then they come close, and you move like a madman on crack, and they can't turn with it. If you ask me, the D3A is all about the MindF*** and the Laughs.
Also, some people learn real quick. They just extend from you. Which, in a furball, last I checked could be a bad idea sometimes. Since they can be, and usually are, low and slow. Making them easy pickin's for your friends.
Main thing about me and the D3A is I have fun with just assists, anyone who tries to turn with me figures out they can't real fast, and walks away. OR they get stubborn and keep turning. And well, Option 2 ain't don't work very often. :lol
JUST HAVE FUN! AND IF YOU CAN'T LAUGH AT YOUR FLAMING WRECK OF AIRCRAFT THAN YOU'RE BEING TOO SERIOUS. :D
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bang those wheels of on the hanger on the way out:aok
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Well, I actually WAS furballing. Not that I'd do that very often. Just lucky that night I guess.
i'm new to online flying compared to you BE, so i wouldnt care to presume that you did otherwise. thats why i stated 'no offence intended' and used myself as an example to describe my point rather than made the point on the premise that my point was applicable to another player.
wtg on the sortie and thanks for making me think about what a furball really is again. i dont really see many true furballs anymore, where there are 90% of the dar bar in 5 square miles all under 7k.
PS: 109 vs A20? hmmm i still with the 109 snap sorry :D
breakin wheels off a D3A tip: stay wheels down on the tarmac as long as you can. usualy just before you take off the wheels will groan while they are at high speed and in contact with the runway, just keep pushing forward and hold the wheels down untill they snap off. works in the RV8 anyhow.
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P47-D25:lol
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Moving from a Spit16, you should check out the following in order of strongest to weakest:
Yak9U. Very solid all around plane. Small ammo load is only drawback.
KI-84, it is not as weak as you might think.
Bf-109F-4 Turns very well with flaps, all guns in the nose, but small cannon load.
KI-61. Great turner with two 20mm cannons in the nose. Poor vertical performance.
Hurricane IIC. Missing only speed and climb. Very dangerous guns.
F6F. Tough, turns better than almost all planes it can't out run. Poor vertical performance
Spit V. Speed is only weakness.
FM2. Like the F6F only better turning and worse guns.
All of the above have at least one weakness so you will avoid the Dweeb tag, and gain some valuable flying experience from overcomming a plane's limitations.
I do not recommend the following because they are planes that perform so well that your weaknesses as a pilot will continue to go unnoticed.
Spit 8
Spit 9
N1K2
La-7
P-51 (If flown in B&Z mode)
I do not recommend flying the best planes all the time since you become dependant upon them to succeed and you miss out on the richness of the full plane set.
Others to consider:
F4U-1A
Bf-109G2
Bf-109G14
P-40
La-5
A6M5
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Ki-84 and N1K2-J are both noticably tougher than the Spitfire. They have armor and self sealing tanks.
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well lets see i have been furballing since i started 3 years ago.
best planes to furball in that are fun turn well pretty fast and will be fun with months of practice
109g14
109g2
109g2
these 109s are very fun to fly get to alt fast and have very good guns. now they will take time to learn and aim but they are very good furball planes when you learn how to fly them. you can really supirse people when you out turn them :) great fun plane for furballs
also i recomend the F4U series. any F4U is a great plane this plane will also take time to learn and even turns better then a 109 once you learn to fly it. a F4U is great to take out, it turns amazing, and can dive up to 530 MPH, once again this plane will take a lil time to learn. not as much as a 109 but its pretty hard with the views and stuff.
hope this helps, try these planes learn to fly them and you will have a good time with all aspects of the flying part of the game.
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P-47 pwns in furballs
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Originally posted by TracerX
Moving from a Spit16, you should check out the following in order of strongest to weakest:
Yak9U. Very solid all around plane. Small ammo load is only drawback.
KI-84, it is not as weak as you might think.
Bf-109F-4 Turns very well with flaps, all guns in the nose, but small cannon load.
KI-61. Great turner with two 20mm cannons in the nose. Poor vertical performance.
Hurricane IIC. Missing only speed and climb. Very dangerous guns.
F6F. Tough, turns better than almost all planes it can't out run. Poor vertical performance
Spit V. Speed is only weakness.
FM2. Like the F6F only better turning and worse guns.
Some aspects here need clarification and/or elaboration.
Yak-9U: Reasonably fast, but only average acceleration. Good climb, but only average zoom climb at best. Turn rate above corner speed is G limited just like every other fighter. Between 200 mph and corner speed, it's rather agile. Below 200 mph it rapidly loses its luster, until down around 160 mph, where it's a wallowing sow. Marginal guns.
Ki-84: Excellent climb, good acceleration and a very fast rate of roll. Turning ability is respectable, but it needs the flaps out to excel in turns. The problem lies in having to get below 170 mph to begin getting flaps down. Good gun package, very good visibility. Fight in the vertical and trim manually to overcome the stiffening elevators at higher speeds.
Bf 109F-4: Excellent turn rate and radius with flaps. Adequate in vertical, but no great shakes. Will not roll to the right when slow with flaps out... Average acceleration. Marginal guns
Ki-61: This is one of those aircraft that suffered under the drag model update. I would not classify the Ki-61 as a "great turner". Not even close, especially when slow. Like the Yak, it's quite agile between corner speed and about 200 mph. However, it lacks the power to remain in that range when maneuvering. Thus, it scrubs of E and soon finds itself a hopeless, helpless wallowing hunk of scrap metal. To be successful, you need to have some altitude that you can trade for speed. You will need to have good E management skills. Terrific gun package.
Hurricane Mk.IIC: Very agile within its envelope. Its lack of speed can be a big liability against a pilot in a fast plane who refuses to turn with it. Be wary of the pilot who will not maneuver with you , but maintain an altitude and E advantage, his intent being to run you out of air speed and blast the Hurricane at his leisure. Its powerful guns can make the enemy pay for a mistake. Most Hurricanes get picked while turning with other fighters. So, you'll need good SA. Small magazines mean that you cannot spray ammo with abandon.
F6F-5: Maneuverability on par with the F4Us. Better in the vertical than all F4Us except the mighty -4 model. Suffers from a roll instability at high AoA, so be quick on the rudder and smooth on the controls. While the F6F is not a stellar climber, it isn't bad either. What it does do exceptionally well is zoom climb (or E climb, if you prefer). Co-E, no fighter can pull away from it in a zoom climb. Vertical maneuvering in a dogfight is primarily a function of potential energy. The Hellcat's great mass means it offers high levels of potential energy. I've dueled 109K-4s with the F6F, and they could not gain any edge in vertical maneuvering. Of course, if you're not a good E manager, you may waste your E and that's always a bad thing. The F6F is rough and tough, with adequate guns and plenty of ammo. It is, however, not especially fast in level flight. It's about 15 to 20 mph too slow at 22,000 feet, and perhaps 3-5 mph slow at sea level (comparing it to Navy and TAIC test data). Despite its lack of raw speed, it retains E very well.
Spitfire Mk.V: Faster than the Hurricane, but still rather slow. Adequate climb, but bleeds E rapidly if power is reduced, even just a little. Excellent maneuverability. Small cannon magazines means that you'll be running low rather quickly. I prefer the Spitfire Mk.IX, even in a furball, and this despite not being as good in turning.
FM-2: Terribly slow, but climbs well enough. Excellent turn, until it bleeds off its E, where like many of the lower powered fighters, it loses a great deal of agility. It can turn small circles, but with flaps out, they are also very slow circles. Suffers the same risks as the Hurricane, but is a far more robust fighter, able to absorb more damage, in general.
My regards,
Widewing
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I can play the angles and turn every fighter, except the A6M2 (tough), while in the Ki61.
The highest I'll get in it is about 7k.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I can play the angles and turn every fighter, except the A6M2 (tough), while in the Ki61.
The highest I'll get in it is about 7k.
Did I read this right? Did you say you can turn a Ki61 with a SpitV, Niki, Ki84, Hurri, 109F4, etc.? Just wondering how someone can make a plane do something it can't.
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any 109...i prefer K4 then G14.
190A8 is a blast in furball...I take 2x20mm only when doing that.
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Ki-61 cant really turn with everything but it seems that way if you keep it in the sweetspot and use the verts. As long as the gerbals are running its a sweet ride...but its also a pretty easy plane to kill if you dont get sucked into its type of fight and run the sucker out of E. It's exceptionally stable IMO and if you combine that with the vis and guns you can create some amazing "falling leaf" stuff and pop a guy who has no clue that you've stopped flying and are floating...
But if your out turning a hurricane or spitV your out turning the other guy, not the plane.
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lol ded lookie my stats you will see most of my kills are in p40e =)
and unlike you im not 5k above everyone else hoping for a pick =P
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Originally posted by dedalos
Did I read this right? Did you say you can turn a Ki61 with a SpitV, Niki, Ki84, Hurri, 109F4, etc.? Just wondering how someone can make a plane do something it can't.
Amazing how someone "who wasn't good enough" can, eh? I find it funny on how often the Tony is "slammed for being a POS".
I'll keep landing kills in it, in the LWA's.
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F6F
FM-2
P-40E
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wadke listing all the planes that suck for you to avoid. he is kind like that.
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Try the Yak-9U.
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Originally posted by AirFlyer
Zero if your not afraid to -really- get in the fight. :D
And be BBQ'd :D
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ya that yak is a great plane! i just hope you know how to aim cause both of the yaks are really hard to aim with and you also get like 120 cannons for the 9u. its fun though.
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190A8. It is pure pain. I have more fun in it than any other ride in a furball.
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I don't furball much but when I do I like to take the tough ones or the pickers.
FM2 are great
F4F's are slow but not bad on the outskirts where you can extend and come back a few times.
109f on occasion, very nice plane
LA's, how can you not like 'em heheh
I'm interested in the Ki's and need to learn the F4U's but don't see them as furballers (F4U's)
I see very few 190's out there unless there flying high picking other high flyer's.
I've seen so many planes that people say they like to furball with but expect if i was to look that up I'd find they rarely take them for anything. Bunch of smoke blowers. p40E , p47's psst
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Well REEB seems to be an animal in the P40E
P-40E 111 to date in 93 all in main. WOW WTG REEB
most of the rest so far have been F o S...you know who you are.
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Well REEB seems to be an animal in the P40E
Easy to get kills flyin above furball in the horde, no matter what plane!:aok
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haha sky thats funny i think you still mad cuz i killed your spit5 with a p40 =P
and i love fighting up hill and do it all the time and you can ask lippy cuz him and i had some awesome p40 v ki84 fights the other night till we both got picked by the high buzzards like dedalos hehe!
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Originally posted by reeb
sky i think you still mad cuz i killed your spit5 with a p40
When did you have this dream?
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Amazing how someone "who wasn't good enough" can, eh? I find it funny on how often the Tony is "slammed for being a POS".
I'll keep landing kills in it, in the LWA's.
Get over it. Is this going to be your default response every time I talk to you? I am not the one who said that but if that was the criteria for entering, well, I would have. You still confuse you beating a newbe with what the plane can actually do.
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Originally posted by reeb
haha sky thats funny i think you still mad cuz i killed your spit5 with a p40 =P
and i love fighting up hill and do it all the time and you can ask lippy cuz him and i had some awesome p40 v ki84 fights the other night till we both got picked by the high buzzards like dedalos hehe!
Ohhhhhhh, reeb can't take a little joke. So sad cause I really had a lot of repect for him :rofl
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Fly the spit9 turns better that the 16.
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...and the Spit V turns better than either.
Ki-61, I dont fly it much, but its a great fighter too, yep.
Bottom line if you want to get good at something, practice, there is no substitute.
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Thanks for all the great replies all!
I hope I didn't imply that I ONLY fly the spit 16, that's not the case. BUT, when I'm in one of those situations where there are just red dots everywhere on dar, and you're looking at a 5 mile commute to the fight, the spit has been my go-to plane. Something that can get up and get going right away.
I've experimented with the hurri some, but I just don't care for it.
I've flown the 109's a bit, mostly the G-14 and K-4. I could see how the K-4 would be a good furballer in the sense that it has alot of power, is fast, and I believe it accelerates well. The lower model 109's though, like the e and F's, I don't know about that. I might have to try that, but in my fights in the AvA arena I get my butt kicked in anything but the uber-109's.
I took up an La-7 for 3 sorties the other night, and I just can't stand that plane. I dunno, maybe I'm predudiced or something because folks rag on it so much, but I just don't see the attraction.
I can't kill anything in a P-40, even in EW, so taking into an LW furball probably isn't going to help my score any!
I think I might try the N1k and Ki-84. I also experimented with the P-47D11 last night and had a bit of success with it.
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With respect to the K-4, though, I've had really poor results furballing with that nose cannon. While I have gotten fighter kills, I haven't gotten many. I think a good furball plane needs guns that have good snapshot capability like 50 cals or hispanos.
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thats interesting, for me i find the only thing 30mm is good for is snapshots, and 20mm and .50 far more effective in sustained turning deflections or level chase shots.
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I've been having insanely good furball luck with the C.205 lately. It has decent climbing, great high yo-yos, isn't too fragile, and a good guns package too. I think the best thing is that many furballers write it off as a non-player, and ignore it for "greater" threats.
And then the perkies just roll in...
-Llama
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:lol Funny. Furball for the most part mean one thing. You killed the guy that did not see you on time or you died to the guy you did not see on time. Plane really does not need anything more than speed and cannons for the pick an go. The few that actually try to pick a fight inside a furball, already are in the plane they like and the don't ask whats plane would be good for it. Most likely something slow that turns well so they can deal with more than one con at a time.
If you are in a 190 or 51, you are not furballing. You are flying through a furball and pick your way out of it, but you are not furballing. Now days a furball is a pick fest :noid
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Originally posted by dedalos
If you are in a 190 or 51, you are not furballing. You are flying through a furball and pick your way out of it, but you are not furballing.
Not nessesarily true. I was turning on the deck in my 190A-8. You just need to stay fast, turn gradually and use the vertical to reverse quickly.
A furball, by it's very nature is a series of ever changing threats and targets. You don't have to "lock on" or be "locked onto" to be furballing. If the odds are close to even you can furball in just about anything.
BTW, I've seen some really good P-40 sticks in the middle of a furball.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Not nessesarily true. I was turning on the deck in my 190A-8. You just need to stay fast, turn gradually and use the vertical to reverse quickly.
A furball, by it's very nature is a series of ever changing threats and targets. You don't have to "lock on" or be "locked onto" to be furballing. If the odds are close to even you can furball in just about anything.
BTW, I've seen some really good P-40 sticks in the middle of a furball.
True, I am talking in general. There are plenty of exceptions to that.
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ROFL dedalos what ya mean i cant take a joke? why do you think my post had haha's hehe's and =P's my post was ment in fun
and sky it was the othernight i kilt your spit5 then you came back in a corsair with alt to keel me hehe your memory is getting bad you must have oldtimers ROFL have you been hangin out with Xbrit?
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Originally posted by dedalos
Get over it. Is this going to be your default response every time I talk to you? I am not the one who said that but if that was the criteria for entering, well, I would have. You still confuse you beating a newbe with what the plane can actually do.
Nah. I don't boast on here (not my style). I'll keep landing kills in it. It's fun watching cons "thinking they have an easy kill" and go to the tower.
ENY doesn't affect me either. BTW, I was joking, relax.
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Originally posted by toonces3
I've been eyeing the N1K. I see alot of folks flying those and the Ki-84, but I'm kinda adverse to Japanese planes because they are so weak.
I can't think of a better dogfighter than the Ki-84. As Widewing says, you have to fly it within its best envelope, but that's true of most planes, and dogfighting speed is really the Frank's best envelope. Takes a little learning, but I'd much rather be in a Frank than a Spit.
- oldman
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If it doesn't have a meatball on it , not painted blue , or isn't a bomber... why are you flying it?
As far as furballin... Japanese planes are great A6M, KI-84, NIKI
Blue planes... The FM-2 is fantastic at sitting at 100' and spinning in circles and peppering planes with .50's.
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Originally posted by reeb
sky it was the othernight i kilt your spit5 then you came back in a corsair with alt to keel me
Bro, you are just wrong. For one, you made it sound like you fought and killed me in a p-40 against my spit5, which will never happen. Secondly, you killed my spit5 with a ponyD by totally ganging me. Also, I haven't killed you in a hog this tour, I upped a dora and killed ur pony with 4 of your friends trying to stop me!:aok
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
I've seen so many planes that people say they like to furball with but expect if i was to look that up I'd find they rarely take them for anything. Bunch of smoke blowers. p40E , p47's psst
RedTop...look it up....I fly 47's mostly..and furball in em all the time when Im flying. Don't ever live....but its a hoot.
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Take up a 234...those are fun to fly around in furballs!
(I do it!)