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Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: LePaul on October 19, 2007, 01:13:39 AM: For Sale (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1944-Douglas-B-26C-Invader-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ120170023714QQihZ002QQcategoryZ63678QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Preettttty!
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: eskimo2 on October 19, 2007, 04:23:20 AM: $115K and no bids...
Amazing
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Slash27 on October 19, 2007, 04:25:17 AM: Put me down for $100:D

I hope it goes to a good home.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Wolfala on October 19, 2007, 04:25:24 AM: Its an A-26K counterinvader modified by Onmark Engineering in Van Nuys before going over to SEA.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 19, 2007, 04:29:01 AM: Maintaining that bird will take a hefty amount of cash annually. I hope nobody that can't take care of it will buy it.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 19, 2007, 06:41:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Wolfala
Its an A-26K counterinvader modified by Onmark Engineering in Van Nuys before going over to SEA.

I was going to say it looked more like an A-26 to me
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Airscrew on October 19, 2007, 08:45:29 AM: Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I was going to say it looked more like an A-26 to me

WW2 A-26, Korean War B-26, Vietnam A-26

Douglas Production list http://www.xs4all.nl/~rioolpw/douglas_longbeach_03.html
28650 A-26C-35-DT xxx 44-35371 N4818E

http://www.warbirdregistry.org/a26registry/a26-4435371.html

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N4818E.html

http://www.planedesire.com/aircraft/desire/N4818E/details.html

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/1944_3.html

it also looks like there is a USAF accident report from June 1950 available
http://www.aviationarchaeology.org/src/1950s/1950Jun.htm

Date:500630
Aircraft Type: TB-26C
Serial Number: 44-35371
Squadron: HQ SQN
Group: 3201ABG
Home Base: Eglin AFB, FL
Action: TAC
D: 2
Pilot: Pack, John C.
Location: Lockheed AT, CA

Serial #: 44-35371
Construction #: 28650 Civil Registration: N4818E
Model(s): A-26C TB-26C STOL 26
Name: None Status: Airworthy Last info: 2002
History:
Rock Island Oil & Refining Co, Wichita, KS, 1960-1966.
- Registered as N4818E.
- Planned conversion to Monarch 26 not completed.
- Stored, unrestored, Hutchinson, KS.
Consolidated Air Parts Corp, Los Angeles, CA, 1967.
Denny Lynch/Lynch Air Tankers, Billings, MT, 1967-2002.
- Converted to Lynch STOL 26 tanker.
- Flew as tanker #A28 (later #59).
- Damaged when nose gear collapsed on landing, Billings, MT, June 28, 1975.
-- repaired.

Info on the civilian accident
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=49450&key=0

BILLINGS, MT DOUGLAS B-26 N4818E Nonfatal Part 91 General Aviation
NTSB Identification: SEA75FTA22
14 CFR Part 91 General Aviation
Event occurred Saturday, June 28, 1975 in BILLINGS, MT
Aircraft: DOUGLAS B-26, registration: N4818E

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FILE DATE LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT PILOT DATA F S M/N PURPOSE----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------3-2592 75/6/28 BILLINGS,MT DOUGLAS B-26 CR- 0 0 2 MISCELLANEOUS AIRLINE TRANSPORT, AGE TIME - 1000 N4818E PX- 0 0 0 TEST 35, 3975 TOTAL HOURS, 210 DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL OT- 0 0 0 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT RATED. NAME OF AIRPORT - BILLINGS DEPARTURE POINT INTENDED DESTINATION BILLINGS,MT LOCAL TYPE OF ACCIDENT PHASE OF OPERATION GROUND-WATER LOOP-SWERVE LANDING: ROLL GEAR COLLAPSED LANDING: ROLL PROBABLE CAUSE(S) PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE PREFLIGHT PREPARATION AND/OR PLANNING PERSONNEL - MAINTENANCE,SERVICING,INSPECTION: INADEQUATE INSPECTION OF AIRCRAFT (MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL) AIRFRAME - LANDING GEAR: NOSEWHEEL STEERING MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - DISCONNECTED FACTOR(S) MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - VIBRATION,EXCESSIVE MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - OVERLOAD FAILURE EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - PRECAUTIONARY LANDING ON AIRPORT SUSPECTED MECHANICAL DISCREPANCY REMARKS- NOSE GEAR SCISSOR NOT CONNECTED AFTER TOWING.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: MotorOil1 on October 19, 2007, 11:08:40 AM: Quote
Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Maintaining that bird will take a hefty amount of cash annually. I hope nobody that can't take care of it will buy it.

That's what I was thinking also. It looks like it's from 1944. ;) Might be airworthy but keeping that bird flying will be the trick.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: AquaShrimp on October 19, 2007, 02:19:00 PM: Two words: Metal fatigue.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Slash27 on October 19, 2007, 02:20:22 PM: Two words: no ****
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Chairboy on October 19, 2007, 02:31:47 PM: Swap those engines out for a pair of supercharged Toyota Tacoma V8s w/ turbo, no problem. Rip out that panel, drop in one of the G1000 conversion kits on an experimental certificate, Warbirds are used to flying on unusual airworthiness certs.

Cut your costs even more by converting it to fixed gear, both your maintenance and insurance costs go down.

Re-upholster the inside like a Cessna Citation, lots of leather, that'd be sweet.

Oh, give it a nice paint job w/ decals. I'm thinking Hawaiian flowers on a light blue skin.

If you're worried about metal fatigue, just strip it and use the airframe and wings to make a big negative mold and do a standard fiberglass layup. Sure you'd need to monkey around w/ placement of equipment to deal with the different weight & balance, but who'd notice?

:D
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: eskimo2 on October 19, 2007, 05:43:24 PM: The first few years that my wife and I lived in Colorado we belonged to a WWII living history group. A couple of well to do guys owned a C-45/AT-11, two SNJ/AT-6’s and an L-4. About 30 of us in the group maintained these planes and traveled to air shows to show off the planes and discuss aviation history, dressed in authentic uniforms. That's me in the middle, facing left. My wife is to the right, facing the C-45 transport.

(http://hallbuzz.com/good_old_days/colorado/fantasy_flight.jpg)
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Chairboy on October 19, 2007, 05:59:46 PM: I think I saw that Twin Beech at the Roseburg air show this summer, taking folks for rides.
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: Wolfala on October 19, 2007, 06:13:19 PM: Actually, the flight school i'm at is looking for another Multi-engine for the Indians they brought over doing the training. Catch is, it has to be a plane their government recognizes.

Makes me wonder...I could get a Seneca II for 130K with 400 HP, or an A-26 with 4000 HP and ADI for the same price...

Decisions...
Title: Ok, who wants to pitch in for a B-26 :-)
Post by: eskimo2 on October 19, 2007, 06:23:03 PM: This particular bird has an interesting history. It started off as an AT-11 and then was converted to a C-45 transport. After the war it was used by the CIA for who knows what. I don’t remember exactly what was different about it but they added a few things to it. It’s been in civilian hands ever since. I’ve spent a great deal of time cleaning oil splatters out of the wheel wells. The longest I ever rode in it was from Colorado Springs to Oshkosh and back; that was in 96. I’ve also flown over the Great Sand Dunes on the deck in it.