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Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Heater on October 20, 2007, 10:43:34 AM
Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens........
It seems that at least one state has decided to take matters into its own hands, since the Federal Government keeps dragging its feet on this Illegal alien stuff and even reversing popular opinion on how to handle it. BRAVO OKLAHOMA ! (Too bad all politicians don't have the 'guts' to do this)
Every State needs to do this!!!!
Oklahoma's Governor Brad Henry has signed a sweeping immigration Reform bill: House Bill 1804, that its sponsor believes will go a long way in dealing with the illegal alien problem in the state.
House Bill 1804 was passed by overwhelming majorities in both the House and Senate of the Oklahoma Legislature. The measure's sponsor, State Representative Randy Terrill, says the bill has four main topical areas: it deals with identity theft; it terminates public assistance benefits to illegal; it empowers state and local police to enforce federal immigration laws; and it punishes employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens.
Oklahoma is no longer "O.K." for illegal aliens, Terrill observes. "When you put everything together in context," he contends, "the bottom line is illegal aliens will not come here if there are no jobs waiting for them, they will not stay here if there is no government subsidy, and they certainly won't stay here if they know that if they ever encounter our state and local law enforcement officers, they will be physically detained until they're deported. And that's exactly what House Bill 1804 does."
The Oklahoma legislator is pleased the bill he sponsored into law was signed by Governor Henry and believes it will go a long way to curb the illegal immigration problem in the state. "I would remind people that states are separate sovereigns in our federal system," Terrill points out. "Anyone who doesn't understand that needs to go back and take an American federal government class in college," he says.
As a result of that sovereignty, the Oklahoma lawmaker insists, "We have as much right - in fact, I would argue, a responsibility - to protect our tax payers against that sort of egregious waste, fraud and abuse as the federal government should have a responsibility to protect that international border, but doesn't do that."
Terrill says as long as the federal government refuses to do its job of protecting the international borders of the United States, states like Oklahoma must take action to deal with the problem that is costing taxpayers in the state $200 billion a year in public benefits, law enforcement costs, and other resources.
14 GOOD REASONS TO DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS
(websites provided for verification)
Hope these 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read by the majority of Americans. Then they will have something to yell at their U.S. Congress members. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurlcom/zob77
$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
30% of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/06 04/01/ldt.01.html
$90 Bill ion Do llars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premiumcnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are goin g to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportat ion would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
So if deporting them costs between $206 and $230 BILLION DOLLARS, Start getting rid of em.' We'll be ahead after the 1st year!!!
Please pass this on. Americans need to wake up!
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Toad on October 20, 2007, 10:52:11 AM
Obviously, Oklahoma is racist. It is not about enforcing the laws, it's pure racism.

Bravo, Oklahoma!

Now you can join Kansas City as a place that the National Convention of La Raza will boycott when they pick a venue for their affair.

You see, we have a woman Park Board member, appointed by the Mayor, that is a member of the Minuteman group that advocates enforcing the US laws on immigration.

Since the Mayor has refused to fire her for being such a racist, La Raza is cancelling their convention here and relocating.

I can't tell you how much the city as a whole has just cried and cried and cried over this terrible, terrible racism.

NOT.

I hear Mexico City is a great place for conventions..........
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Sixpence on October 20, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
w00t!
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 20, 2007, 11:43:24 AM
Bout #)%()# Time someone took matters into their own hands
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 20, 2007, 11:49:22 AM
the ACLU lawyers are on their way.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Hornet33 on October 20, 2007, 11:56:43 AM
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Originally posted by john9001
the ACLU lawyers are on their way.


Yeah but in Oklahoma it's legal to shoot year around any animal deemed as a pest. I think ACLU lawyers might fit that discription.

Glad to see my home state doing something good. I was raised in Altus OK.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: SteveBailey on October 20, 2007, 11:58:07 AM
Time to buy investment property in OK!
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: JB88 on October 20, 2007, 12:12:20 PM
apparently the dutch are more aware of oklahoma politics than those of us in the states.

shame on you mac.

:p

:cool:
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Swoop on October 20, 2007, 12:14:10 PM
Any IT jobs going in Oklahoma?

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/48257/Swoop2.gif)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: bj229r on October 20, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
US gov was gonna send out letters to employers with folks on their payrolls whose names did not NOT match social security numbers-- (i.e. juan, carlos..) the letters were ONLY to be sent to employers who had more than 10 such people--- 140 THOUSAND such letters were about to be mailed out, but a Clinton-appointed judge (U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer)
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Breyer said the new work-site rule would likely impose hardships on businesses and their workers. Employers would incur new costs to comply with the regulation that the government has not evaluated, and innocent workers unable to correct mistakes in their records in the given time would lose their jobs, the judge wrote.

"The plaintiffs have demonstrated they will be irreparably harmed if DHS is permitted to enforce the new rule," Breyer wrote.

Los Angeles-area labor and civil rights activists expressed satisfaction.

About 2 million workers in California would be affected, according to Paulina Gonzalez, communications coordinator for UNITE HERE, Local 11, a Los Angeles-based labor union that represents industrial workers and hotel employees.

Monica Guizar, an attorney at the Los Angeles-based National Immigration Law Center, said such use of the SSA database would violate the law and workers' rights.

"This rule will result in increased discrimination against workers," she said.

Speaking at a news conference in Los Angeles, Maria Lourdes Alvarez, a Mexican immigrant and employee at the Four Points Sheraton Hotel at Los Angeles International Airport, expressed satisfaction with the judge's decision.

"We ask President Bush to stop treating us like criminals," she said.

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he government had about 140,000 letters ready to go, each containing the names of 10 or more employees with mismatches in their records. About 8 million employees would be affected, according to court documents[/b].
link (http://www.knbc.com/news/14312168/detail.html)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: 68ROX on October 20, 2007, 12:49:57 PM
WTG OK!!!


Hope AR is next.


68ROX
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: 1K3 on October 20, 2007, 01:18:22 PM
meh
 

It's only 3rd world states that are passing such laws.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Heater on October 20, 2007, 01:21:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
apparently the dutch are more aware of oklahoma politics than those of us in the states.

shame on you mac.

:p

:cool:



Not Dutch (well Ok I am) But I was born in Oklahoma...and Just live in the Netherlands :)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: JB88 on October 20, 2007, 01:49:39 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad:

resisting urge ...must...resist...MRmmmmmaaa aannnnngggg!!!!

"OOOOOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plainnnnn!!!"



:noid
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Blooz on October 20, 2007, 02:09:52 PM
I'm glad someone's moving in the right direction.

Maybe you could have your government instruct ours.

http://www.wben.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=08547
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Maverick on October 20, 2007, 02:23:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Blooz
I'm glad someone's moving in the right direction.

Maybe you could have your government instruct ours.

http://www.wben.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=08547


If your state IS what your avatar heading says it is I doubt that will ever happen. You guys elected hillary twice for crying out loud. Do you honestly think that ANY legislation against minorities and illegals is going anywhere???  :huh :huh
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Blooz on October 20, 2007, 05:16:28 PM
Quoted:

<>

Not here. Nope, but I vote every chance I get.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2007, 05:31:48 PM
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Time to buy investment property in OK!


You've never been through OK, I take? ;)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: culero on October 20, 2007, 06:05:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
:mad: :mad: :mad:

resisting urge ...must...resist...MRmmmmmaaa aannnnngggg!!!!

"OOOOOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plainnnnn!!!"



:noid


Are you a tenor? I can add a nice baritone if you like :)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Slash27 on October 20, 2007, 06:07:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
meh
 

It's only 3rd world states that are passing such laws.


oh boohoo:cry
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: JB88 on October 20, 2007, 06:09:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by culero
Are you a tenor? I can add a nice baritone if you like :)


THAT"S IT!!!  

AN O'CLUB BARBERSHOP QUARTET!!!

(the possibilities are limitless!)

:D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 20, 2007, 06:11:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
meh
 

It's only 3rd world states that are passing such laws.


you need to check mexico's illegal immigration laws.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: JB88 on October 20, 2007, 06:12:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by john9001
you need to check mexico's illegal immigration laws.


as if it's really a problem there.

:D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2007, 06:27:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by john9001
you need to check mexico's illegal immigration laws.


Presuming he hadn't, it musta been a good guess:

http://www.mnforsustain.org/Mexicos%20Immigration%20Law%20in%20US.pdf

At least that seems an easy enough google and reappears all over the net. Could be wrong, though. What do you got? :)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Tac on October 20, 2007, 06:35:00 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
as if it's really a problem there.

:D


It is a huge problem in Mexico believe it or not.

They get all the flow of illegals coming from central america...while some 'pass' mexico while heading to the USA, most of those illegals stay in Mexico (and why not? its an economic superpower compared to central american nations and they speak spanish AND its much easier for them to send money from mexico to central america).

Mexico's policy is clean-cut. You get cought, you get deported asap and any property or monies they have in mexico are confiscated and never returned to the illegal.

But..try and do that to a Mexican living illegaly in the USA.. lol!
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: culero on October 20, 2007, 07:00:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB88
THAT"S IT!!!  

AN O'CLUB BARBERSHOP QUARTET!!!

(the possibilities are limitless!)

:D


I didn't say I had any talent, mind you :)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2007, 07:03:03 PM
Well, then, Coolio. I'm a solo act. Arlo as Elvis. Thankyouthankyouverymuch. (http://www.htmlgens.com/smileys/elvis.gif)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: 1K3 on October 20, 2007, 08:50:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
meh
 

It's only 3rd world states that are passing such laws.


Quote
Originally posted by john9001
you need to check mexico's illegal immigration laws.



You misunderstand.  

The "state" that i was referring to was the 50 US states, not countries.  I guess "state" can mean countries too.

Oklahoma is a poor state, they had no choice but to pass that law.  It wouldn't be long before it spreads to other poorer states.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Hornet33 on October 20, 2007, 09:29:45 PM
Since when is Oklahoma a poor state?? Tulsa has one of the most rapid growth potentials for manufacturing high tech consumer goods in the country. There are still plenty of oil wells producing domestic oil. Wind farms are springing up all over the place. A good chunk of the wheat and cotton grown in this country comes out of Oklahoma.

Most of the people I know that live there have a VERY comfortable life. The cost of living is low but that's a good thing.

Oklahoma is anything but a poor state.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AKIron on October 20, 2007, 09:33:26 PM
Even if Oklahoma were destitute I'm wondering how that has anything to do with discouraging illegals from settling there.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2007, 09:36:52 PM
Cause the only thing more depressing than miles of flat dirt is Mexico invading?

(ducks)

;)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Stringer on October 20, 2007, 11:00:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Obviously, Oklahoma is racist. It is not about enforcing the laws, it's pure racism.

Bravo, Oklahoma!

Now you can join Kansas City as a place that the National Convention of La Raza will boycott when they pick a venue for their affair.

You see, we have a woman Park Board member, appointed by the Mayor, that is a member of the Minuteman group that advocates enforcing the US laws on immigration.

Since the Mayor has refused to fire her for being such a racist, La Raza is cancelling their convention here and relocating.

I can't tell you how much the city as a whole has just cried and cried and cried over this terrible, terrible racism.

NOT.

I hear Mexico City is a great place for conventions..........


Speaking of enforcing laws....I would also like to see OK (and KC) enforce the laws on American employers who employ illegal aliens.  

That's a quicker way to cure the illegal immigration problem, IMO....
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 03:17:26 AM
quote:
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Originally posted by 1K3
meh


It's only 3rd world states that are passing such laws.
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quote:
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Originally posted by john9001
you need to check mexico's illegal immigration laws.
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You misunderstand.

The "state" that i was referring to was the 50 US states, not countries. I guess "state" can mean countries too.

Oklahoma is a poor state, they had no choice but to pass that law. It wouldn't be long before it spreads to other poorer states.
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Ya might want to come over here to Oklahoma and mention that we're a third World State or that we are a poor State. Your dumb arse would be shipped, "remains unviewable" back to your safe no balls Librul State.

Post your references to your above two claims assshats.

Post you references.

__________________
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2007, 07:54:59 AM
reply.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lillpop022707.htm

just one of many, need more , find them yourself.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Toad on October 21, 2007, 08:05:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Stringer
Speaking of enforcing laws....I would also like to see OK (and KC) enforce the laws on American employers who employ illegal aliens.  

That's a quicker way to cure the illegal immigration problem, IMO....


It's probably the only way, as we'll never adopt Mexico's policies on immigration.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Ghosth on October 21, 2007, 08:16:10 AM
Stringer Nailed it.

If anyone who was caught employing illegal aliens was looking at 10 years of serious jail time. And if those laws were enforced, we wouldn't have a problem.

Chase it right up the ladder, like they do drugs.

Catch the foreman in the act, get him to squeal on the factory operator, get him to squeal on the CEO, owners. Seize the assests of the company, and everyone see's jail time.  Problem would go away in less than a decade.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: bj229r on October 21, 2007, 08:31:22 AM
Typically, employers complain because they shouldn't be doing "the federal govt's work", by figuring out exactly WHO is illegal....so the S.S.A. and D.H.S. actually try to help them in that regard by TELLING said employers which of their people have forged SS numbers, and a liberal judge squashes it, and the illegals actually get lawyers on their side to fight it....unreal. If they werent bankrupting many communities it wouldnt rile so many folks
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: lazs2 on October 21, 2007, 12:40:27 PM
I have said here for more than a year the the only solution it mandatory jail time for employers who knowingly hire illegals...  

lazs
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 04:26:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
Oklahoma is a poor state, they had no choice but to pass that law. It wouldn't be long before it spreads to other poorer states
 




Where do you get this "Oklahoma is a poor State" crap.

That has got to be a AH record for the most stupidest reply ever.

:rofl

Mac


Quote
Oklahoma is a poor state, they had no choice but to pass that law. It wouldn't be long before it spreads to other poorer states.


~Nominated for Dumb Arse Quote of the Year Award~
Submitted by 1K3


*Corrected*
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2007, 04:29:44 PM
i'm not the one that said Oklahoma was a poor state, you confused me with that other jerk.

i'm the one that said check mexico's immigration laws.

why do i have to explain everything.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 04:31:05 PM
Great.....now they'll come back to Texas.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 04:36:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by john9001
why do i have to explain everything.


Cause you're so good at expressing yourself the first time around? :D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 04:39:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by john9001
i'm not the one that said Oklahoma was a poor state, you confused me with that other jerk.

i'm the one that said check mexico's immigration laws.

why do i have to explain everything.


Sorry john9001... I have the correct Jerk now.

:D

Mac
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2007, 04:39:53 PM
:D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Bronk on October 21, 2007, 04:44:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RedTop
Great.....now they'll come back to Texas.

Good luck with that Red.;)

Bronk
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 04:48:51 PM
John9001 I did like how you explained that I had confused "YOU" with the "OTHER" jerk.....

But I knew what you meant anyways.

:D



Mac
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 04:50:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RedTop
Great.....now they'll come back to Texas.


As long they are heading South in a hurry....

:D

Mac
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Good luck with that Red.;)

Bronk


Tejas has been conditioned for years. No crisis. ;)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2007, 04:55:25 PM
no problem mac , just a misunderstanding.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 05:19:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Tejas has been conditioned for years. No crisis. ;)


Dang.....thats true. ANy ideas what we here in Texas can make a crisis out of?
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 05:20:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
As long they are heading South in a hurry....

:D

Mac


Im sure they are bud....Im sure they are. Might have been what is causing the cold front to move into the area......:D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AWMac on October 21, 2007, 05:29:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RedTop
Im sure they are bud....Im sure they are. Might have been what is causing the cold front to move into the area......:D


Temp here is dropping fast now also.

Good Ol Tornado stuff.

Stay alert Bud.

Mac
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: john9001 on October 21, 2007, 05:33:39 PM
texas.

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/divisions/press/pressreleases/PressRelease.2007-09-26.0929
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 05:37:15 PM
Politics.

http://www.governor.state.tx.us/divisions/press/pressreleases/PressRelease.2007-09-26.0929

Tooting a kazoo. ;)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AKIron on October 21, 2007, 06:01:57 PM
In defense of all sensible Texans. We really didn't have much choice come the last gubernatorial. Kinky woulda had us all smokin' cigars (I've tried but they just nausiate me) and Carol would've had us dotin' on her grandkids.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 06:17:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Temp here is dropping fast now also.

Good Ol Tornado stuff.

Stay alert Bud.

Mac


Will do.

STrangley enuff , our AC went on the blink last week. (2nd time) so we just said the heak with it and opened up the house. Now, its been a lil warm but not terribly hot during the day , but the nights have been pretty nice. Now we have this cold fron coming and I'm rather anxious to see how it is in the house by in the am with the windows all opened up.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
In defense of all sensible Texans. We really didn't have much choice come the last gubernatorial. Kinky woulda had us all smokin' cigars (I've tried but they just nausiate me) and Carol would've had us dotin' on her grandkids.


Wasn't part of Kinky's platform .It's a Dick Perry lie. ;)
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: AKIron on October 21, 2007, 06:27:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Wasn't part of Kinky's platform .It's a Dick Perry lie. ;)


I think Kinky was going to invite the Chocktaws from Oklahoma to run our schools with casino money. Or something like that.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 06:32:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
I think Kinky was going to invite the Chocktaws from Oklahoma to run our schools with casino money. Or something like that.


Not a bad idea ... compared to any single one Perry's had to date. :cool:

(Yeah, kinda obvious I'm not a fan of Perry, I suppose ;))
Title: Re: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: FrodeMk3 on October 21, 2007, 07:07:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Heater
Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens........
It seems that at least one state has decided to take matters into its own hands, since the Federal Government keeps dragging its feet on this Illegal alien stuff and even reversing popular opinion on how to handle it. BRAVO OKLAHOMA ! (Too bad all politicians don't have the 'guts' to do this)
Every State needs to do this!!!!
Oklahoma's Governor Brad Henry has signed a sweeping immigration Reform bill: House Bill 1804, that its sponsor believes will go a long way in dealing with the illegal alien problem in the state.
House Bill 1804 was passed by overwhelming majorities in both the House and Senate of the Oklahoma Legislature. The measure's sponsor, State Representative Randy Terrill, says the bill has four main topical areas: it deals with identity theft; it terminates public assistance benefits to illegal; it empowers state and local police to enforce federal immigration laws; and it punishes employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens.
Oklahoma is no longer "O.K." for illegal aliens, Terrill observes. "When you put everything together in context," he contends, "the bottom line is illegal aliens will not come here if there are no jobs waiting for them, they will not stay here if there is no government subsidy, and they certainly won't stay here if they know that if they ever encounter our state and local law enforcement officers, they will be physically detained until they're deported. And that's exactly what House Bill 1804 does."
The Oklahoma legislator is pleased the bill he sponsored into law was signed by Governor Henry and believes it will go a long way to curb the illegal immigration problem in the state. "I would remind people that states are separate sovereigns in our federal system," Terrill points out. "Anyone who doesn't understand that needs to go back and take an American federal government class in college," he says.
As a result of that sovereignty, the Oklahoma lawmaker insists, "We have as much right - in fact, I would argue, a responsibility - to protect our tax payers against that sort of egregious waste, fraud and abuse as the federal government should have a responsibility to protect that international border, but doesn't do that."
Terrill says as long as the federal government refuses to do its job of protecting the international borders of the United States, states like Oklahoma must take action to deal with the problem that is costing taxpayers in the state $200 billion a year in public benefits, law enforcement costs, and other resources.
14 GOOD REASONS TO DEPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS
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Hope these 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read by the majority of Americans. Then they will have something to yell at their U.S. Congress members. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurlcom/zob77
$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cisorg/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
30% of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/06 04/01/ldt.01.html
$90 Bill ion Do llars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premiumcnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are goin g to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportat ion would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
So if deporting them costs between $206 and $230 BILLION DOLLARS, Start getting rid of em.' We'll be ahead after the 1st year!!!
Please pass this on. Americans need to wake up!


This is all well and good. As long as it's actually enforced.

We would not have to waste time on another bill, if the laws already on the books were enforced.

Wait to pat this guy on the back in a couple of years, after this has had time to take effect. Find out if anything positive really happened, or if it's just another waste of ink.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 07:23:24 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Not a bad idea ... compared to any single one Perry's had to date. :cool:

(Yeah, kinda obvious I'm not a fan of Perry, I suppose ;))


Perry is the same as any other govenor. Useless in texas. The Speaker of the house and Lt. Gov. are the powers. Maybe not totally...but really the 2 I mentioned have the most pull.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 07:31:23 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
Perry is the same as any other govenor. Useless in texas. The Speaker of the house and Lt. Gov. are the powers. Maybe not totally...but really the 2 I mentioned have the most pull.


Damn. Bush's campaign for the presidency was all a lie then. ;)

You'd think Perry'd thrown his hat in the ring by now the way he thinks he's a mover and shaker, though. :D
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: culero on October 21, 2007, 07:34:12 PM
Perry is a terd.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 07:58:38 PM
But his hair is perfect. :cool:
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: RedTop on October 21, 2007, 08:03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Damn. Bush's campaign for the presidency was all a lie then. ;)

You'd think Perry'd thrown his hat in the ring by now the way he thinks he's a mover and shaker, though. :D


He's hitting the trail with Guliani I think....or heard.

Don't think for a minute he may not have plans for a future in Washington. Course they all do.

Bush signed a bunch of stuff into law...but...the house and senate stuctured things the way the Speaker and Lt. Gov wanted em. Bush had input....and yes he had veto power I believe.

In Texas tho....and I happen to work in a place that has lets say"Perks"  , I see the house and senate in depth every session.

THe govennor kind of sets it up....but you can BET that the good ole boys behind the scenes that have certain peoples ears  , are doing all they can to influence things.

Texas is definatley a Good Ole Boy run government IMHO.
Title: Well, it passed! Oklahoma is no longer OK for Illegal Aliens
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2007, 08:11:52 PM
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Originally posted by RedTop
Texas is definatley a Good Ole Boy run government IMHO.


Oh I realize that. Seen it all my life. :)