Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shiryu on October 21, 2007, 07:33:29 AM
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You can post your support here :)
http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=142801
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What is Xfire?
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It's a nice tool that lets you track friends online and know what they're playing at any given time, join them im them (in some games even without alt tabbing), track your gaming hours, and stuff like that. It can be pretty useful, and in any case it brings visibility to games as well.
http://www.xfire.com for more info
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I wouldnt trust it unless it was fully checked for adware, spyware, etc
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Considering it has 8 millions of users i'd guess it's pretty safe, isn't it?
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not entirely sure how much use it will be in aces high...
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Originally posted by Shiryu
Considering it has 8 millions of users i'd guess it's pretty safe, isn't it?
:rofl
Don't ever measure security or stabilty or such thing by the number of people using a certain software. Never.
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I would also love this feature... its annoying to get xfire messages when your playing the game when people think your just chilling.
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Originally posted by Lusche
:rofl
Don't ever measure security or stabilty or such thing by the number of people using a certain software. Never.
I heard that. I mean, look at how many people use winblows.
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I have xfire and it gets really annoying when people message you, you alt tab out and bang ur in the dirt with a bent propellor and no wings :). I read something that says xfire has a policy that they will not support non cd-based games. So we might be wasting our time
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Originally posted by Shiryu
Considering it has 8 millions of users i'd guess it's pretty safe, isn't it?
Not much thought went into this one.
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well, if the game gets supported they might manage to work it so that messages can be displayed and answered directly in game without alt+tabbing. Otherwise you can disable message sound and just answer messages after you landed.
About CD games, they already support several games that are available only for download, so i doubt that's the case
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xfire has been proven before to contain spyware and download it's crappy updates in the background, being a long time user of the software, I wouldn't recommend it.
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I checked it with mcafee and several antispywire programs, and it doesn't contain any malicious software, it does OPENLY send information about what game you're playing and keeps track of how many hours you play such game, that's one of it's purposes, so it's not spyware, it's a feature.
Also, automatic download in the background can be disabled.
No one forces anyone to use it, but it supporting Aces High 2 would only be an advantage for the ones that do.
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i still dont see how it will do anything that is either
A: needed in aces high
or
B: already happens.
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Originally posted by Shiryu
[..]it does OPENLY send information about what game you're playing and keeps track of how many hours you play such game, that's one of it's purposes, so it's not spyware, it's a feature.[..]
You dont consider somebody keeping track of how many hours you play a game a "spy" function?
Yes, it may do so openly but that's simply nobody's business. Why would you want to send that information to a third party?
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Originally posted by leitwolf
You dont consider somebody keeping track of how many hours you play a game a "spy" function?
The definition of "spyware" is a program that harvests and relays information on a computer's activity without the user's informed consent.
A program that relays such information with the user's consent is NOT a spyware, but a simple and legit data communication program.
If you consider xfire a spyware, then any program that detects and communicates your online status (like msn, yahoo, skype, or any other instant messenger) is a spyware as well. Yeah, rght'o. :D
Yes, it may do so openly but that's simply nobody's business. Why would you want to send that information to a third party?
Why would you want to track your deaths and kills in Aces High? Or any other kind of information?
Displaying the game i'm playing is quite useful for my friends to know, and as such come play with me without even needing to ask. It's a completely opt-in program. You display it when you want, when you don't you just keep the program shut down and it relays nothing.
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That's why i put "" around "spy function".
You haven't heard about what e.g. skype does with your BIOS information, do you?
You're laughing now.. but you should think about this more carefully after you receive your first "personalized" ad.
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Originally posted by leitwolf
That's why i put "" around "spy function".
It has nothing to di with spying. Someone spying me is someone that's keeping me under surveillance without me knowing. If i download a program to purposedly track and display what game i'm playing (it even gives me an handy forum signature that does it, mind you), there's no act of spying. I'm just WILLINGLY providing information.
You haven't heard about what e.g. skype does with your BIOS information, do you?
You're laughing now.. but you should think about this more carefully after you receive your first "personalized" ad.
I use skype since when it was released, and guess what, i didn't have any spyware, or "personalized ad" problem since.
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I don't know anything about this "Xfire" but we have been Skype users for over 2 years and never had any kind of "personal ads" problem.
Skype is a much used program in the visually impaired community and I have never heard mention from any of those that we talk to about any of these problems.
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Would like to see AH on xfire...
EDIT: ahaha...just clicked the link...I made that thread!
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lool yeah, you did, i just necroed yours instead of making a whole new post :)
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I voted in favor.
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[You can post your support here :)
Considering we requested that we get rid of the "request to join" pop up screens, I don't figure we need to be getting IM's etc. during our time on AH.
I vote no on this.
If you want to know if your buddy is on, just send him a PM and as him!
Go Colts!
Disco
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Originally posted by leitwolf
You dont consider somebody keeping track of how many hours you play a game a "spy" function?
Yes, it may do so openly but that's simply nobody's business. Why would you want to send that information to a third party?
umm you do know that this game tracks how long you play and displays it in your stats on this webpage, don't yea?
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Originally posted by fjaloma
I vote no on this.
Won't make a difference here, it's more of a petition, you can't sign, "Not in favor of" especially since this petition is for a program ran by a company not owned by HTC.
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Originally posted by crockett
umm you do know that this game tracks how long you play and displays it in your stats on this webpage, don't yea?
Sure. But there's a huge difference between what HTC is doing in their own product vs. a company collecting data to from many games/activities which can be matched to personal records.
If you dont understand what the difference is - i dont know what to say.
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As long as i WILLINGLY provide that data, there's nothing malicious in the program, and as such, your point is moot, sir.
Sorry about that :D
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Originally posted by Denholm
Won't make a difference here, it's more of a petition, you can't sign, "Not in favor of" especially since this petition is for a program ran by a company not owned by HTC.
How in the hell is this "program ran by a company not owned by HTC" going to interface with a program that IS owned by HTC without HTC's consent?
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Originally posted by Donzo
How in the hell is this "program ran by a company not owned by HTC" going to interface with a program that IS owned by HTC without HTC's consent?
Ugh... Donzo old bud... Think about what you just typed and drink a few brews and go back and read it. Winblows has lots of programs that interface with AH and I doubt Mickeysloth asked for any consent. ROFLOL... Just yanking yer chain bro. :p
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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Originally posted by Donzo
How in the hell is this "program ran by a company not owned by HTC" going to interface with a program that IS owned by HTC without HTC's consent?
You think XFire asks other companies if they can support their games with their chat client? If you think they do, then why do they come out with game support updates the second the game is released?
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LOL
You would have a better chance getting a date with Jessica Simpson....
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(http://blog.vodkamelone.de/uploads/spam.jpg)
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Me thinks an Xfire employee/pusher is trying to boost itself
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Sounds like on-line call waiting. I got rid of that call-waiting thing years ago. I didn't like my phone calls being interrupted.
I can just see it now: rolling in my osti, fixin to shoot down that guy (for hopefully the 3rd time), when I get a little pop-up message: 'hey, whatcha doing?'
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Me thinks an Xfire employee/pusher is trying to boost itself
lol, this is funny. It doesn't really need pushing you know.
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Originally posted by Shiryu
Considering it has 8 millions of users i'd guess it's pretty safe, isn't it?
The average spyware pron site gets that many hits in a week.
;)
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Originally posted by Shiryu
lol, this is funny. It doesn't really need pushing you know.
You sure are hell bent on pushing it here spyware spammer
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Originally posted by Shiryu
Considering it has 8 millions of users i'd guess it's pretty safe, isn't it?
no less safe then Kaza at any rate LOL
No thanks. If I want to be found I'll just let people know where Im gonna be ahead of time
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Originally posted by Meatwad
You sure are hell bent on pushing it here software spammer
Actually, kiddo, i'm hoping Xfire to support Aces High, not the other way around. Not sure if you get the subtle but quite clear difference...
:D
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Please Don't Feed the Troll.
Mac
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I will get right on this as soon as possible, but today I have to go get the GPS module implanted under my skin. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Shiryu
(http://www.forward-moving.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/38197-spam.jpg)
Then why are you spamming the forum
Oh well, time to crack open the ignore list.
Xcrap (fire) complaint -
Xfire DOES contain Spyware, I assure you. Download the NOADWARE 3.0 and run a scan before the install of x-fire and then after the install and see what you come up with...The spyware is TrueActive Monitor, which is a KEYLOGGER program designed to capture everything you type into XFIRE. I had a COMPLETE reformat of hard drive, with NOTHING on it, ran a scan and found NOTHING, then installed ONLY XFIRE and found the keylogger installed. If you delete the registry entries, it will self replicate as long as it is installed. Un-install XFIRE and LO and behold, TRUEACTIVE Monitor is no longer there..
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Originally posted by crockett
umm you do know that this game tracks how long you play and displays it in your stats on this webpage, don't yea?
Yeah I do, it tracks everything, but what's your point? pop ups at a critical moment are so much spam mail. I'd be glad my buddy just logged on, but I don't want him/her sending me an IM/pop up distracting me just before I/they pull the trigger. I'd rather they call me on the squad ch. or send me a text.
It's all preferences, I prefer not to be inturrupted. Xfire is unnecessary.