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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Odee on October 22, 2007, 11:25:34 AM
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Probably been posted before. So what, it's posted again.
Turns my stomach seeing watermelon like this...
Time to Pay Attention to What's Happening to Our Country (well worth the read)
A conversation between a Customer and Bank of America Bank:
The Bank: Bank of America, can I help you?
Customer: Yes, I want to cancel my account. I don't want to do business with you any longer.
The Bank: Why?
Customer: You're giving credit to illegal immigrants and I don't think it's right. I'm taking my business elsewhere.
The Bank: Well, sir, we don't want to see you do that, but we can't stop you. I'll help you close the account. What is your account number?
Customer: (gives account number)
The Bank: For security purposes and for your protection, can you please give me the last four digits of your social security number?
Customer: No?
The Bank: Sir, I need to verify your information, but in order to help you, I'll need verification of who you are.
Customer: Why should I give you my social security number? The very reason I'm closing my account is that your bank is issuing credit cards to illegal immigrants who don't have social security numbers. You are targeting that audience and want their business. Let's say I was an illegal immigrant and you've given me a credit card. I have a question about it and call for assistance. You wouldn't be asking me for a Social Security number, would you?
The Bank: No sir, I wouldn't.
Customer: Why not?
The Bank: Because you would have pressed '2' to speak in Spanish. We don't ask for that information when calling in on the Spanish line...
I provided "snopes" for doubters: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp Now................. I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ." http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml The total cost is a whooping . $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it to every law-abiding citizen in the country including every Representative in Washington , DC four times a week for a month.
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while I am not sure on the total cost of illegals, I definitely agree that they need to be removed from the country.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
while I am not sure on the total cost of illegals, I definitely agree that they need to be removed from the country.
By Force.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
By Force.
If you want to be a vigilante, thats your choice. I'd rather the government would suck it up and just obey the law though.
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lighten up people, those poor people came here to work, so put them to work ...on the chain gang.
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so, if you disagree with this and you have an account with them...cancel it.
less talk. more action. market decides.
otherwise, it's just hot air.
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Originally posted by john9001
lighten up people, those poor people came here to work, so put them to work ...on the chain gang.
the "chain gang" is part of the federal prison system, paid for by my taxes.
Illegals in prison are being supported by mine and your taxes, even if they are being "punished" or "working" on the chain gang.
just air-drop them somewhere in the middle of Mexico and be done with them.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
If you want to be a vigilante, thats your choice. I'd rather the government would suck it up and just obey the law though.
The Government has proven to us that asking the illegals to leave has little or no effect.
Would you rather they be paid to leave? Or be forced to leave?
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Hey Laser, a question:
Is there a laundry service up there at UP where customers' laundry is picked up, washed, dried and folded, and brought back?
This would be pretty big among students, and the place would generally charge by the pound.
My buddy was telling me about such a service at Lafayette, and I was just curious how widespread it is.
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someone needs to sue somebody...that's all there is too it.
sue the government for failure to enforce the law...sue the companies that are bringing them in.
until it makes an economic impact, nothing will be done.
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Originally posted by JB88
someone needs to sue somebody...that's all there is too it.
sue the government for failure to enforce the law...sue the companies that are bringing them in.
until it makes an economic impact, nothing will be done.
that would just use MORE taxpayer money in legal fee's, and in trial fees for overpaid judges and lawyers.
even though the movie "born in east la" is a comedy, and kind of has a wrong overall message of letting more beaners in... it should be more like the beginning of it.
don't have ID and proof of citizenship? wham loaded in a truck, dropped in mexico. they should just load them all up and do that.
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my point is that it will never happen until somebody starts losing money.
the legal fees would be paid to the lawyers when they have won the class action suit.
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Originally posted by JB88
my point is that it will never happen until somebody starts losing money.
the legal fees would be paid to the lawyers when they have won the class action suit.
besides. the amount of money that the government would spend defending itself is minuscule compared to the amount that is going out...if the posters numbers are even remotely correct.
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you are correct, the loss of money somewhere will be the catalyst for something to happen...
but the loss of taxpayer money obviously isn't doing it, considering how much they spend on them now. one of the problems is the government officials don't mind spending our money on thousands of wasteful and useless causes (ahem the art grant thread, is just 1 tiny example of what I am talking about).
it is going to take private sector money, more specifically large corporate money to be lost before something is done. maybe if a large corporation like say walmart was fined $50,000 for each illegal found employed they'd start doing something.
too bad this will never happen.
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that's why the government needs to be sued.
the constitution specifies that it is a responsibility of the federal government to secure our borders.
wal mart doesnt need to be fined. they need to be sued.
whatever company that knowingly hires them does. pick any big one. sue them for damages. for lost wages. whatever.
sue bank of america for discrimination.
cost them money...watch them beef up their verifications.
it only takes one win.
just one.
precedent.
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continued thought:
there is a company that employs the illegals that live across the street and have trashed my neighborhood. i know who employs them, and i know that they know that they are illegals. small town.
what would happen if i took them to small claims court for damages? is that possible? is that the type of spark that can build a fire?
doesn't cost much to file small claims...it also gets a judgement and a public record of facts in the case which could be used in a larger suit.
there has got to be some sort of law that can be applied...even if it has to be worked at a strange angle.
just thinking out loud here.
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Originally posted by Neubob
Hey Laser, a question:
Is there a laundry service up there at UP where customers' laundry is picked up, washed, dried and folded, and brought back?
This would be pretty big among students, and the place would generally charge by the pound.
My buddy was telling me about such a service at Lafayette, and I was just curious how widespread it is.
There actually is. Let me see if I can find a link to a recent news article about it.
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2007/09/28/laundry_business_does_dirty_wo.aspx
Great idea, though I'm not sure if it would work too well. All on campus dorms have GREAT washing and drying machines for amazing prices. There are a couple of laundromats around town, but most of the apartment buildings have washing machines available for decent prices.
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Nice find
The last, perhaps greatest hurdle to achieving a perfect state of sloth--the need to get off your bellybutton to do laundry--has finally been overcome.
I predict that this sort of service is in every college town in the nation within 2 years, if it's not already.
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Originally posted by Neubob
Nice find
The last, perhaps greatest hurdle to achieving a perfect state of sloth--the need to get off your bellybutton to do laundry--has finally been overcome.
I predict that this sort of service is in every college town in the nation within 2 years, if it's not already.
Well, they already had a drop off service that was doing decent business. Though not doing as great as you think they would be.
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Well, if you truly believe this is a bad thing for America, you need to vote against candidates that support or recieve support from huge corporations that take such actions.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
while I am not sure on the total cost of illegals, I definitely agree that they need to be removed from the country.
I wholeheartedly agree... we do not need to be housing, employing, feeding, healing or otherwise aiding these criminals... we, as citizens need to remove them, all ages, including anchor babies at gunpoint and march them back to the border they violated.
I am sick of playing around on this subject. our government refuses to act, we need to use the second amendment to make it happen.
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Originally posted by JB88
that's why the government needs to be sued.
the constitution specifies that it is a responsibility of the federal government to secure our borders.
anyone that tried to sue the gov't for not following the constitution, would get their butts hand to them.
the only reason you will get is "you are not party to it."
the elected criminals passed all sorts of laws to cover their own butts.
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one small victory sets precedent.
it doesn't necessarily have to be that argument...but i am sure some smart people could think of something.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
By Force.
i say give em a chance..........bring all of our men and women home from the war....train these illegals...if they want to be here so badly, then they can defend it......when thye finish thier tour/contract, and in good standing, then they have earned their citizenship.......
orrr........just tell them that's what's happening, and leave em there:rofl
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The Government has proven to us that asking the illegals to leave has little or no effect.
Would you rather they be paid to leave? Or be forced to leave?
It is not as simple as paying them or using force. I'd rather the government enforce the law. Which means they deport all illegals that are here when they are caught.
Using force just for the hell of it is a rather rediculous suggestion.
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You know, you can wander around your neighborhood, talk to your friends, relatives, people you know, and get all kinds of different reactions.
I know plenty of non-hispanic people who would cringe at the idea of Illegal's getting a mass deportation, either because of the supposed economic impact ("I don't wanna pay that much for tomato's") To those who say that "They just wanna better themselves...".
And don't forget that even though you will see a few of the Chicano's(2nd, 3rd, or even further generations' down the line) say that they oppose illegal immigration, there are even more who wholeheartedly support it. And quite a few people say that there's no racism involved. I don't see how it isn't, It exists' on BOTH sides of the fence. Political correctness only makes the problem worse, not better. To show some of the Brown-power points of view, read some of the posts in this:http://www.minutemanproject.com/newsmanager/templates/mmp.asp?articleid=56&zoneid=10
This is, quite literally, a war. And we're losing, because we haven't started to even fight yet.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
It is not as simple as paying them or using force. I'd rather the government enforce the law. Which means they deport all illegals that are here when they are caught.
Using force just for the hell of it is a rather rediculous suggestion.
What do you think force is Bodhi? Without force, the government would be unable to do anything to deport the criminals.
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Boy this got into splitting hairs quickly.
I agree, get rid of them. Im infuriated by companies or groups that do anything to accomodate these "poor working people". They are illegal, theives and should be deported. Why they werent rounded up in droves when they had the nerve to protest is beyond me.
Someplace, somewhere is a leader who will enforce the laws of the land and take charge. Illegal acts have consequences...or should.
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we shouldn't get into any mass deportation.. we should simply make sure that they can't work here and that they don't get any US taxpayer paid for benifiets.
They will leave on their own.
lazs
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Actually, laz, i could stomach that.
Sign the dotted line stating you will never receive any state or federal assistance...including social security, food stamps, any form of public assistance, tax rebates or income tax refunds.
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The third video down on the Minuteman website stated that 48,000 American citizens have been killed by illegals since 9/11. Does anyone know if this is true?
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no... no signing involved... none needed.. if you are not a citizen you get no benifiets. If you are here illegally no employer can hire you.
end of problem.
Course... sleeping on the street or under a bridge eating garbage may be preferable to the country they left...
which is odd... since it is such a craphole... it seems odd that they want to fly it's flag when they are here. That they get all teary eyed and nostalgic for a place that they couldn't wait to leave and that would treat them (if they were illegals there) much worse than we do.
lazs
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Originally posted by Jappa52
The third video down on the Minuteman website stated that 48,000 American citizens have been killed by illegals since 9/11. Does anyone know if this is true?
This is by ALL illegal types... Chinese, Russian, Mexican, etc....
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good enough ... ship them all back home regardless of where they came from
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I could care less if they came from Atlantis... 48,000 killed in 6 years. ( IF this figure is correct)
58,209 KIA in the Vietnam WAR during a nine year period.
Why shouldnt we deport these people??