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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: xtyger on October 22, 2007, 03:39:53 PM
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Was just up in LW having a discussion with one of the other players. He was telling a newbie that weapons convergence is measured in feet. I interjected and said convergence distance, as shown in the hangar, is measured in meters.
Who is right?
I note the Help section on this site doesn't mention meters or feet when discussing convergence.
Only one other guy piped in saying it was in feet. I was amazed there weren't even a few more people willing to say it was one way or the other.
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I'm 99.9% sure it's measured in yards.
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Distances in AH are in meters (HINT: 1.0k, 3.5k, 6.0k...etc) therefore, convergence would be in meters as well. I have had this arguement with several other players who can't seem to get it.
Banshee7
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It's yards.
Cheap and easy Insta-Proof? Go offline, climb to 3000 FEET. Fly over the tiger on the runway. Distance is reported as 1.0K.
3000 feet = 1000yards.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I'm 99.9% sure it's measured in yards.
Yards are close enough:D
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also one of those instant messages that comes up now mentioned it was in yardsguess they are useful!
Pipz
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Originally posted by rednex21
Distances in AH are in meters (HINT: 1.0k, 3.5k, 6.0k...etc) therefore, convergence would be in meters as well. I have had this arguement with several other players who can't seem to get it.
Banshee7
Wrong. All distances in AH are in yards, including convergence.
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everything in AH is yards.
when you see an icon at 800 that means it is 800 yards away.
when you see 2.5k that means it is 2500 YARDS away, NOT 2.5 kilmoeters, the "K" is for "thousand" think like car RPM's same concept. 5 on your gauge is 5000 RPM.
5K in game is 5000 yards.
in convergence you are setting yards also. 250, 275, 300 whatever you choose it is yards. that way you know if you set 200 convergence and the enemy Icon is at 200 you are shooting in your convergence zone.
there are no meters or any type of metric measurement in AH, and HTC has stated they will not implement it either.
hope that helps
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Originally posted by JB73
everything in AH is yards.
when you see an icon at 800 that means it is 800 yards away.
when you see 2.5k that means it is 2500 YARDS away, NOT 2.5 kilmoeters, the "K" is for "thousand" think like car RPM's same concept. 5 on your gauge is 5000 RPM.
5K in game is 5000 yards.
in convergence you are setting yards also. 250, 275, 300 whatever you choose it is yards. that way you know if you set 200 convergence and the enemy Icon is at 200 you are shooting in your convergence zone.
there are no meters or any type of metric measurement in AH, and HTC has stated they will not implement it either.
hope that helps
That cleared things up a lot. Thanks (especially for not being an arse about it).
Banshee7
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That does clear it up, even for me. I was under the impression it was in meters because of the "K" after the distance on the enemy icon. While there is a difference between meters and yards, I don't know that it would be enough to affect game play.
Oh, but I believe elevation, as shown on the map when you select "Field Altitudes", or whatever that selection is, those are measured in feet, right? At least those measurements always worked for me when I've used them as feet.
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yes, base elevations are in feet above sea level
2.0K would be 2,000 feet, 3.3K is 3,300 feet and so on.
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Originally posted by xtyger
That does clear it up, even for me. I was under the impression it was in meters because of the "K" after the distance on the enemy icon. While there is a difference between meters and yards, I don't know that it would be enough to affect game play.
Oh, but I believe elevation, as shown on the map when you select "Field Altitudes", or whatever that selection is, those are measured in feet, right? At least those measurements always worked for me when I've used them as feet.
field alts are measured in feet
altitude ( looking up at an icon above ) is measured in feet but is reported using the yards measurement
in the horizontal you are using yards......
the key thing to remember that when you see a bogey above you or below you , remember 1K = 3,000 feet in altitude...........you either will overspeed or lose all E ( energy ) if you do not pay attention.......
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
field alts are measured in feet
altitude ( looking up at an icon above ) is measured in feet but is reported using the yards measurement
in the horizontal you are using yards......
the key thing to remember that when you see a bogey above you or below you , remember 1K = 3,000 feet in altitude...........you either will overspeed or lose all E ( energy ) if you do not pay attention.......
So, when I see a con 1k (co alt, normal forward view) he is 1000 feet?
But when I see a con directly overhead (up view) and his icon says 1k its 3000 feet?
So what happens when I see a higher con (say in forward up view) and his icon says 1k?
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you are misunderstanding I think...
ALL Icon ranges are reported in yards always.
many people just don't realize that a con 1K icon range directly above or below is a difference of 3000 feet in altitude is what TC is saying.
most planes only climb max about 3000-4000 feet a minute, so even a 1K altitude advantage is quite a bit.
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I probably did misunderstand.
So an icon that states 1k, wether its above, below, infront, behind, left up, right down is 3000 feet (1000 yards) away.
Think I got it cleared up, at least in my mind.
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As a Rule of Thumb, I have found that the further I move my puter and myself from the wifey in the kitchen the better I have at avoiding "WifeAck".
Also I have locked one of the upstairs bedroom doors and placed a sign that reads "KNOCK BEFORE ENTERING!"
*I am actually in a different upstairs bedroom.*
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I'm 99.9% sure it's measured in yards.
And the World awaits for another Mars Lander to plummet to the surface of the Red Planet....
:cool:
Mac
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(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/tip1.jpg)
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Kilometers is abbreviated km......not k
i.e. 1Kilometer would be 1Km not 1K
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It is clear enough (because of above post), but I would like to add one thing. There is NO metric units ever in AcesHigh. And HiTech made it clear that the game would never have metric system. so, anything you see in the game would be something of a Imperial Units... weight, speed, height, distance, etc.
One funny thing on Imperial System is (or rather one neat thing in metric system is) that all those values have no connection/relation ever. Weight has no relation with distnace, speeds and distances are using different units .. In metric system, if you have 1m x 1m volume of pure water, it would be 1000kg. The only measure of distance and speed is based on meters... etc.
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Originally posted by Murdr
(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/tip1.jpg)
I can't quite place it, but that tip just seems worded wrong, and possibly may confuse total n00bs to flight sims and AH....
I don't know exactly how to phrase what I'd say, that really is a tricky one, but I'd possibly recommend removing the part about a plane's distance. it just seems it may confuse some as it did even in this thread. the reason is explaining the meaning of 2K icon range above means 6000 feet is more an SA issue, not a simple game mechanics issue, where how the icon system works is strictly game mechanics.
<> to you trainer guys I know you have a tireless, sometimes thankless, and difficult job and I don't mean to be harsh about what you have come up with. I just want to give an outsiders perspective.
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There is a hard cap on the number of text characters that can be displayed. As it is, what I suggested*, and what is in the tip screenshot is slightly worded different to make it display correctly. All in all, it conveys exactly what was intended, and answers any confusion raised so far in this thread. Not bad for only 115 characters I think.
*Icon and gun data distance is displayed in yards. Altitude is in feet. A con displaying 2K over head is at around 6,000 feet above you.
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Originally posted by xtyger
Was just up in LW having a discussion with one of the other players. He was telling a newbie that weapons convergence is measured in feet. I interjected and said convergence distance, as shown in the hangar, is measured in meters.
Who is right?
I note the Help section on this site doesn't mention meters or feet when discussing convergence.
yards
Only one other guy piped in saying it was in feet. I was amazed there weren't even a few more people willing to say it was one way or the other.
:aok
yards
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Originally posted by stickpig
Kilometers is abbreviated km......not k
i.e. 1Kilometer would be 1Km not 1K
Slang terms for kilometre include "klick" (sometimes spelled "click" or "klik") and "kay" (or "k").
But I guess you didn't know this or even bothered to research it.
Mac
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If you want to be really confused a grid square is 25 miles across.
Oh my god, my heads going to explode! :confused:
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Originally posted by rednex21
Distances in AH are in meters (HINT: 1.0k, 3.5k, 6.0k...etc) therefore, convergence would be in meters as well. I have had this arguement with several other players who can't seem to get it.
Banshee7
Yeah, otherwise it would be like this (HINT: 1.0Y, 3.5Y, 6.0Y .. . etc). I have had this arguement with several other players who can't seem to get it.
I am SMRT, SMRT, SMRT :noid
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But...but...but...
Manifold pressure in German planes is measured in METERS!
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Originally posted by AWMac
Slang terms for kilometre include "klick" (sometimes spelled "click" or "klik") and "kay" (or "k").
But I guess you didn't know this or even bothered to research it.
Mac
Hey....I am Military,,, USA retired... 11CP I Know what a klick is.... I've humped many of them.. have you? So STFU..... Dont try to tell me what you just googled.... and BTW its Kilometer DA
also its abbreviated km......not k So whats your point leg?
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Originally posted by stickpig
Hey....I am Military,,, USA retired... 11CP I Know what a klick is.... I've humped many of them.. have you? So STFU..... Dont try to tell me what you just googled.... and BTW its Kilometer DA
also its abbreviated km......not k So whats your point leg?
Pull my chain a lil more Cherry. Bragg is my second home since '75 to '95. Love Cp McCall also.
Retired Army, first few years were sweet. ABN RCN. Been to Panama '75..Nicaragua '76...Hondo in '77, then ROK into the DMZ as a tunnel rat *TNT*.. Hmmm 3 tours in Korea, learned to read, write and speak Hangul.
Did the Instructor bit while at Ft Gordon then off to the FRG 1/2 ACR for 4 years. Then to Ft Huachuaca and retirement.
It's the kids like you and the "Old Bull" joke that still stands true.
Just think before you call an old ABN trooper a Leg or STFU or DA.
I take it yer a whiner?
Mac
USArmy Ret.
SFC/E7
Drive On
BTW I don't know what Girl Scout Troop you were in but we all refered to 1000 meters as a Klick or a K. Have you ever humped 10K's? How far is it?
KID