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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dichotomy on October 25, 2007, 06:30:57 PM
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Didn't want to hijack the other thread but the discussion about Katrina and the Cali fires got me to thinking. How many of us are truly prepared for a natural or unnatural disaster? Do you have x days supplies of food, clothing, a medicine kit, basic first aid knowledge? I know most of us have weapons. How about those of you who don't own firearms? How would you defend yourselves?
Ladies and gentlemen... proceed
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I have insurance...family close...and Guns. Bring it on.
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Originally posted by RedTop
I have insurance...family close...and Guns. Bring it on.
Do you plan on eating the insurance policy should you find yourself hungry? I suppose you could burn it to provide warmth. I think we all need a little more than an insurance policy and a gun.
Good subject to discuss :aok
Mark
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i'll just call 911, the govt will take care of me.
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2 weeks worth of food - check
first aid kit - check
knowledge of first aid - check
firearms - ummmmmmmm.......no
Insurance - check
Clothing - check (so much camping gear its insane - 3 tents....lol....)
How would I protect my family and myself......damn good question - in the UK its difficult to procure legally a firearm, crossbows reload too slow, bows aren't that practical either.
I could make a pointy stick and prod someone until they are annoyed enough to go away, but think thats about it - I'd prefer my family to be ok and lose a few possessions (unless of course they were taking my guitar or spilling my tea - in which case, i'd be a bit peeved).
No wonder I want to move outta this country soo bad.
Good topic tho...
Wurzel
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I have Jesus, that's all I need.
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Do you plan on eating the insurance policy should you find yourself hungry? I suppose you could burn it to provide warmth. I think we all need a little more than an insurance policy and a gun.
Good subject to discuss :aok
Mark
My family close is where I go. If lets say a fire burned my house down. I could stay at my sisters , fathers , or brothers.
Tornado , same.
Flood? Well if I get flooded chances are everyone in Round Rock is under water so I'd have to go to my Dads or Brothers.
So theres food....water...shelter....pr etty much all my wife and I would need. No kids at home or even in state.
If they couldn't get to me or me them? Food check...for a few days....Clothes? not sure....Protection? 9mm , 12 gauge , 20 gauge , 30.06and a .223.
Minivan and SUV.
That enuff info?
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Originally posted by RedTop
My family close is where I go. If lets say a fire burned my house down. I could stay at my sisters , fathers , or brothers.
Tornado , same.
Flood? Well if I get flooded chances are everyone in Round Rock is under water so I'd have to go to my Dads or Brothers.
So theres food....water...shelter....pr etty much all my wife and I would need. No kids at home or even in state.
If they couldn't get to me or me them? Food check...for a few days....Clothes? not sure....Protection? 9mm , 12 gauge , 20 gauge , 30.06and a .223.
Minivan and SUV.
That enuff info?
Seems you have it pretty well covered there RedTop :aok
Mark
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I'm not sure I've got it covered.
House on wheels. Check
Huge tow vehicle (semi) Check
Motorcycle to get around with. Check
Satellite internet communications. Check
Cell phone. Check
Food for minimum of 2 weeks. Check.
Self contained water, heat, cooling, generator, bathroom. Check
Self defense tools. Check
Ability to use and knowledge of when and how to use survival tools. Check
Attitude. Check and double check.
I think I can hack it.
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lots of canned food...
a few different types of knives...
knowledge of different survival situations and intimate knowledge of the surrounding oh 100 miles...
4 wheel drive vehicle...
1 .22 handgun and 1000 rounds...
I think I could be in decent shape if I needed to "get away and survive"
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Worst comes to worse I can eat the cats.
then the dogs
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I'm set, but with some family members it's a totally different situation.
You see, whenever this person feels that food is not immediately available, she no kidding goes into rosie odonnell eat everything in sight mode. It doesn't matter that there is a wal-mart 3 minutes away, if she opens the pantry and there is only one serving of cereal left, she'll eat that, then start eating everything else in sight.
The problem is that we probably have 3 weeks worth of food in the pantry that doesn't require more cooking than simple heating or addition of boiling water, but it would take fairly strict rationing which I don't think everyone would accept without one hell of a fight.
I suspect I'm not the only person with this problem. That's why I have guns so I can procure more food from the various liberal gun control advocates in my neighborhood. :lol
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What if the rapture comes? What are you going to do about that? I know where I'm going....Do you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
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I got some Duct-tape when DHS told me to back in 2003. I think that should take care of anything that comes my way.
-Sik
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Have food for 1.5 weeks (we raid the stock when we run out of pasta or rice :D ), drinking water for 1 week (need more), a grill out back, 1st aid kit, wife knows 1st aid.
I live in SF. Left my handguns with my parents b/c when I moved out here, they were voting on the gun ban. It passed, then the NRA got an injunction or whatever. Should've brought them.
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Sadly, no.
I used to be, when I lived in Tokyo and (another) apocalyptic earthquake was forever only a moment away.
Need to address that sometime soon.
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You bet.
Guns + ammo yes
First aide and medic kit yes
Food 6 people in home enough for 3 meals a day for 2 months
Fall out \ Tornado shelter yes
Bug out plan yes
Trust the government to help NOT
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Am I prepared? HA hell no. I live for today. If a natural disaster strikes all I need is my gun to fend of the crazy people.
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Originally posted by Sikboy
I got some Duct-tape when DHS told me to back in 2003. I think that should take care of anything that comes my way.
-Sik
While I haven't tested this theory I'm pretty confident that duct tape is nutritious.
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I'm not sure I've got it covered.
House on wheels. Check
Huge tow vehicle (semi) Check
Motorcycle to get around with. Check
Satellite internet communications. Check
Cell phone. Check
Food for minimum of 2 weeks. Check.
Self contained water, heat, cooling, generator, bathroom. Check
Self defense tools. Check
Ability to use and knowledge of when and how to use survival tools. Check
Attitude. Check and double check.
I think I can hack it.
I think they made a movie about THAT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pphX78VAP8E) :)
Charon
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
Didn't want to hijack the other thread but the discussion about Katrina and the Cali fires got me to thinking. How many of us are truly prepared for a natural or unnatural disaster? Do you have x days supplies of food, clothing, a medicine kit, basic first aid knowledge? I know most of us have weapons. How about those of you who don't own firearms? How would you defend yourselves?
Ladies and gentlemen... proceed
I've got some food...some water...Yeah, clothes.
I try to keep a full tank of gas in the pickup.
Rifles, shotguns, pistols, Yeah, and ammo, too.
The problem is, No two disasters are the same. Natural disasters can be bad, I believe that Katrina was the worst in a long time. But, there are plenty of disasters that aren't natural.
A-bombs? If you dodge 'em, how long can you stand glowing for?
Massive civil unrest? Civil war? What's the best way to deal with that? Even a simple riot like the RK riots' is really hard to prepare for (You would want to add Concertina wire and sandbag fortifications to your Front yard.)
Food, water, First aid kit and manual/training are a good place to start, though...Those will be necesities in short supply. Also, the ability to hunt up more food/water should be on the list. Know where a source of fresh water is in your area(Stream, pond, etc.) Investing in a good-quality water purification system would be a good idea. Learn to avoid dangers that might occur (Ruptured gas mains, downed live electrical lines, Damaged structures that might collapse, etc. There's quite a few things to take into consideration, IMHO.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
There's quite a few things to take into consideration, IMHO.
Indeed there are. If/when the ship hits the sand your survival will likely depend upon how well you considered those possibilities.
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I live in hurricane country we are always prepared. it's foolish not to be.
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sharpened punji sticks in the Red River facinf South. We have Okies with guns facing South. Gas cans to light the banks on the North side.
Nothing gets across the River......alive.
Mac
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Here in Arkansas, we get some nearly burned out hurricanes (lived through Hurricane Fran in NC--power was out 10 days--I got menengitis from a mosquito bite)....but the worst threat is ice storms....BAD ones. The last one in 2001 had power out 7 days.
To quote:
2 weeks worth of food - check (including guests)
first aid kit - check
knowledge of first aid - check, wife is a Nurse, RN, BSN, MICN
firearms - Getting one shortly, 45 cal
Insurance - check--(I am an AFLAC Agent)
Clothing - plenty
Water - not a problem
Heat - 1 cord of firewood, a Kerosene heater & 15 gallons of juice
Electricity - New home to be built with solar panels and a natural gas generator for full home need capacity
Room to help house up to 10 friends who aren't as lucky.
We'll be ready.
68ROX
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Do you plan on eating the insurance policy should you find yourself hungry? I suppose you could burn it to provide warmth. I think we all need a little more than an insurance policy and a gun.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Well I live in North Dakota, so that takes a big load off my end right from the start.
We won't ever have a hurricaine up here. (Whew)
Tornado's, well other than get to shelter, and deal with whatever is left, not much you can do.
Flood, we bought this house in 96 when Fargo was under some flooding, and Grand Forks had major Fire & Water going on. We are on one of the few naturally high spots in the valley. In short, we are going to be among the last ones going down. Plus we have 3 kayaks so worst case situation we can make it out to high ground.
I have an alternative heat source rigged for burning corn/wood pellets. Enough to keep the house from freezing the pipes even with out natural gas/electricity. Covered on that end.
We have several containers of water that get cycled every so often. Plus in a worst case situation our 50 gal nat gas water heater would carry us for a while for drinking water.
Food, we could probably manage for 3 - 4 months without any outside aid.
Would help if electricity stayed on for a week or so. But even so, we have enough beans, rice, flour, sugar, and canned goods to manage quite nicely for a long while.
I started stockpiling staples for the Milenium, and we havn't quit, we just cycle things out. Example, if we buy a bag of sugar at the store, new one gets bagged, goes on shelf, old sugar comes out and gets used.
I know we currently have at least 25lbs of rice, 10lb's of beans. It may get old but beans & rice will keep you alive for a LONG long time if needed. Suppliment that with some of the canned fruit and veg's and we are in good shape.
Shotguns I have 3 and ammo for all. Also a .22 rifle and pistol with a couple hundred rounds. Should have more ammo for these. Tools, we are in good shape, with full loadout of gear for camping/kayaking. If we need it, we have it.
Live for today, but plan for the worst. No gloom and doom, just common sense.
I grew up with 3 -4 day blizzards stacked up one behind the next. Getting out in those conditions just doesn't always happen. So best to have what you need on hand.
As to massive civil unrest, bar & board the windows and doors. Hunker down out of sight, sound, and smell, let it pass you bye. Anyone trying to break in would be dealt with quite harshly.
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Originally posted by AWMac
sharpened punji sticks in the Red River facinf South. We have Okies with guns facing South. Gas cans to light the banks on the North side.
Nothing gets across the River......alive.
Mac
Food, water, firearms and ammo all in place.
We also have a few private planes standing by in preparation for " Operation Tulsa".
Shouldn`t be too hard to take as intel has it that most of the inhabitants will be standing on the north shore of the Red, looking south longingly.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Worst comes to worse I can eat the cats.
then the dogs
DREDIOCK !!! How COULD you! They are like family!!! that is sooo bad. hahaha
I don't have guns... never liked having them near me. They are fun to shoot though. Got a bad shoulder bruise first time I fired a 12 gauge... ouch. So I do know how to shoot one.
But I have a beautiful pair of Japanese Katanas which were a present from my Japanese work friends. (only guys would think to give such a present, lol) They are deadly... and never need or run out of bullets hahaha We joke about them being Hitori Hanso after the movie Kill Bill came out.
I pick carefully where I live thus minimizing the chances of a serious disaster... above the flood level, but we all know S can and does H.
Having a network of friends is a cushion against that; works both ways.
Always keep a stock of two weeks food in reserve. Guy next door, single, heats only by firewood... so wont freeze... bit of a ding-dong though lol
My EX left one of his two way radios by mistake HAHAHAHAHA
Lots of small lakes around so water isn't a huge biggie.
NE gets quakes and tornados but always little ones... hurricanes are also pooped out by the time they get here... can get snowed in though... from Nor'easters. Those are exciting!
TIGERESS
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I have a gun safe... it is full of guns and ammo and always has a couple of grand cash.. I have insurance.
I have 3 cars and a motorcycle so... about 50 gallons of gas at all times plus a five or so of race gas.
I am not a picky eater... have a couple weeks of dried food and canned goods... water no problem.
If insurance and cash are not worth anything.... if it is that bad.. then the things that will be the most valuable are guns and ammo. I might be able to scrounge up 5,000 rounds not counting 22's for a dozen or more calibers.. they will always be the most valuable trading stock in a disaster.
weather here is mild but I have a fireplace.
mav is correct tho... attitude is everything.
lazs
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
What if the rapture comes? What are you going to do about that? I know where I'm going....Do you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
Walk out on the movie cause thats the only place its going to take place?
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Food=1 1/2 wks
Water=2 wks
first aid and survival training=check-a-roo.
2 four wheel drive vehicles
generator
and....I've got guns, lots of guns. Ammo, lots and lots of ammo.
I also know where the unarmed populous is likely to be so I will take my guns there to get anything else I might need if the situation is bad enough. Gun free zones, huh, bring em on!!!