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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Furball on October 26, 2007, 11:25:32 AM
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1290248,00.html
Miami Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder has admitted not knowing people speak English in London.
Quite funny :)
Reminds me of some people i met in Tempe.
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"That's the closest thing I know to London. He's black, so I'm sure he's not from London. I'm sure that's a coincidental name."
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Which stereotype? The one about minorities not knowing geography or the one about Americans not giving a hoot about anything outside it's borders?
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Furby you gonna go to the game?
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:rofl at that article.
no one ever said athletes were teh smart though :lol
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Originally posted by Stang
Furby you gonna go to the game?
They all sold out within minutes.
I enjoyed yank football when i was over there, didn't understand a lot of it, but it is a great excuse to sit there for hours drinking beer.
The stadium they are playing in is something else, was only recently completed.
(http://www.sca-tork.com/upload/SCA%20Wembley%20stadium%20web%201.jpg)
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Well, at least that guy had the guts to admit his weakness. He didn't sound embarrassed about it, he just said he doesn't know geography. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he knows more NFL offensives and defensives than the average bloke though.:D
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actually he's correct. I can't understand much of what you guys say over there, therefore is must not be english. the same thing occurs to me in spain though. those guys don't speak spanish over there in spain.
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They don't speak American English of course. They speak a bastardized retarded form.
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no such thing as american english!
It is just english
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American English (AmE, AE, AmEng, USEng, en-US), also known as United States English or U.S. English, is a set of dialects of the English language used mostly in the United States.
Differences between British English and American English
Main article: American and British English differences
American English and British English (BrE) differ at the levels of phonology, phonetics, vocabulary, and, to a lesser extent, grammar and orthography. The first large American dictionary, An American Dictionary of the English Language, was written by Noah Webster in 1828; Webster intended to show that the United States, which was a relatively new country at the time, spoke a different dialect from Britain.
Differences in grammar are relatively minor, and normally do not affect mutual intelligibility; these include, but are not limited to: different use of some verbal auxiliaries; formal (rather than notional) agreement with collective nouns; different preferences for the past forms of a few verbs (e.g. learn, burn, sneak, dive, get); different prepositions and adverbs in certain contexts (e.g. AmE in school, BrE at school; and whether or not a definite article is used in a few cases (AmE to the hospital, BrE to hospital). Often, these differences are a matter of relative preferences rather than absolute rules; and most are not stable, since the two varieties are constantly influencing each other.[2]
Differences in orthography are also fairly trivial. Some of the forms that now serve to distinguish American from British spelling (color for colour, center for centre, traveler for traveller, etc.) were introduced by Noah Webster himself; others are due to spelling tendencies in Britain from the 17th century until the present day (e.g. -ise for -ize, programme for program, skilful for skillful, chequered for checkered, etc.), in some cases favored by the francophile tastes of 19th century Victorian England, which had little effect on AmE.[3]
The most noticeable differences between AmE and BrE are at the levels of pronunciation and vocabulary.
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So what your saying is that American english is a dialect of English , so basically it's like a regional accent ...
One more thing you said English is a bastardized retarded version of American English , now how could that be as English was around before America was a country .......
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Originally posted by expat
So what your saying is that American english is a dialect of English , so basically it's like a regional accent ...
One more thing you said English is a bastardized retarded version of American English , now how could that be as English was around before America was a country .......
Because by beating that country in 2 wars, and saving it in 2 more, we've taken the rights to use "English" how we see fit.
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Originally posted by expat
So what your saying is that American english is a dialect of English , so basically it's like a regional accent ...
One more thing you said English is a bastardized retarded version of American English , now how could that be as English was around before America was a country .......
Dialect is much too large a difference, American vs British English probably does not rise to the level denoting different dialects.
The English that Colonists and 17th century Londoners spoke concurrently differs significantly from that which either side of the pond speaks today.
The American and the British versions of the language are both bastardized forms of the mother tongue.
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:rofl
What rubbish ! not going to argue the beat us bit but the saved us bit ....
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Originally posted by expat
:rofl
What rubbish ! not going to argue the beat us bit but the saved us bit ....
We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old. .
--some English guy
Seems Americans are not the only ones with faulty educations.
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''The American and the British versions of the language are both bastardized forms of the mother tongue.''
That is very true i doubt someone like Shakespeare would undersrtand a lot of what is spoken in the UK these days nor would one of the first settlers to the US understand much either .
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Holden ..
Sir Winston Churchill
We Shall Fight them on the beaches (extract)
June 4th 1940
"... I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone.
At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government-every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation.
The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.
Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail.
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
Dont think the new world bit meant the US , as he is on about the Empire?
Is that what you were getting at ???
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Originally posted by expat
Holden ..
Sir Winston Churchill
Really?
Dont think the new world bit meant the US , as he is on about the Empire?
Is that what you were getting at ???
Columbus discovered the New World. (the western hemisphere)
China, India, Africa, all were known to Europe (the Old World)
So if you are correct, empire colonies or maybe independant countries in the western hemisphere would be that to which he was referring. Let's see... "With all it's power and might".... what country in the new world.... Br. Honduras? no... maybe Canada? no they were already in the fight.
What New World country's leader did Winnie cross the pond to visit with in August 1941?
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he had a 3.5 gpa... at FSU
he was screwing with the reporters..he is know for many many jokes on them
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English in America should be simplified. There's too much archaic and pretentious words; such word should no longer be used. Simplified English should help benefit people whose primary language is not English. Also, spelling should be simplified:aok
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Originally posted by BiGBMAW
he had a 3.5 gpa... at FSU
he was screwing with the reporters..he is know for many many jokes on them
A football player with a 3.5 gpa at a football school. Did he get a degree in Basket Weaving or Pottery?
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Originally posted by 1K3
English in America should be simplified. There's too much archaic and pretentious words; such word should no longer be used. Simplified English should help benefit people whose primary language is not English. Also, spelling should be simplified:aok
Excellent idea! Bring everything down to the lowest common denominator. Why should anyone have to put forth an effort?!?
:aok
Mark
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Because by beating that country in 2 wars, and saving it in 2 more, we've taken the rights to use "English" how we see fit.
Exactly correct.
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forgive my ignorance , what was the second war ?
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The War of 1812
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Main article: Results of the War of 1812
This was a war in which no territory was lost nor gained by either side. None of the points of contention were addressed by the Treaty of Ghent, yet it was a war that changed much between the United States of America and Great Britain. The Treaty of Ghent established the status quo ante bellum; that is, there were no territorial changes made by either side. The issue of impressment was made moot when the Royal Navy stopped impressment after the defeat of Napoleon.
Excepting occasional border disputes and the circumstances of the American Civil War, relations between the United States and Britain remained generally peaceful for the rest of the nineteenth century, and the two countries became close allies in the twentieth century. Border adjustments between the United States and British North America were made in the Treaty of 1818. (A border dispute along the Maine-New Brunswick border was settled by the 1842 Webster-Ashburton Treaty after the bloodless Aroostook War, and the border in the Oregon Territory was settled by the 1846 Oregon Treaty.)
It was a bloody nose for both sides...
sounds like a draw to me
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Originally posted by expat
''The American and the British versions of the language are both bastardized forms of the mother tongue.''
That is very true i doubt someone like Shakespeare would undersrtand a lot of what is spoken in the UK these days nor would one of the first settlers to the US understand much either .
don't forget English is just a batardized form of French ;)
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Originally posted by straffo
don't forget English is just a batardized form of French ;)
William the Conquerer, a Norman (Vikings who settled in north coastal France) spoke French and French was the language of the English aristocracy for 300 years, until Richard 2.
But the peasant class Anglo Saxons still spoke English. English is Germanic in origin, the Anglos and the Saxons being Germanic tribes settled in the British Isles.
un;)
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The English language belongs to the western sub-branch of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European family of languages.
The question as to which is the nearest living relative of English is a matter of discussion. Apart from such English-lexified creole languages such as Tok Pisin, Scots (spoken primarily in Scotland and parts of Northern Ireland) is not a Gaelic language, but is part of the English family of languages: both Scots and modern English are descended from Old English, also known as Anglo-Saxon. The closest relative to English after Scots is Frisian, which is spoken in the Northern Netherlands and Northwest Germany. Other less closely related living West Germanic languages include German, Low Saxon, Dutch, and Afrikaans. The North Germanic languages of Scandinavia are less closely related to English than the West Germanic languages.
Many French words are also intelligible to an English speaker (though pronunciations are often quite different) because English absorbed a large vocabulary from Norman and French, via Anglo-Norman after the Norman Conquest and directly from French in subsequent centuries. As a result, a large portion of English vocabulary is derived from French, with some minor spelling differences (word endings, use of old French spellings, etc.), as well as occasional divergences in meaning, in so-called "faux amis", or false friends.
That lot was from Wikpedia......
A bastardized version of germanic and french languages then :)
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And to think of all that wasted time in secondary school learning French !!!
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Why is that word pronounced like that Daddy?
Well honey, it's a Latin word. No, hang on, it might be Greek. Or Norse. Or, ahhhh, maybe French, or German.
Ummm.
Just remember how it's pronounced, honey.
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:)
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english has its roots in sanskrit and beyond that to ancient persia.
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When I was in england... I was politely laughed at because I couldn't understand plain "english" and had such a thick accent "kalifornia/southern"
I said.. "Well.. if I am the one with the accent then how is it that you guys can understand every word I say but I can't understand a frigging word you say?"
I also pointed out that when they sing they sound like they are from kalifornia.
stammering and "uh" sound the same in both languages.
lazs
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Excellent idea! Bring everything down to the lowest common denominator. Why should anyone have to put forth an effort?!?
:aok
Mark
We might replace the english language with text messaging abreviations and symbols!
link (http://www.webopedia.com/quick_ref/textmessageabbreviations.asp)