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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Apers on October 28, 2007, 07:21:08 PM
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One of the biggest sources of consternation for me in this game is how half the time everyone is content to just flit about above our own airfields and not actually attack the enemy.
I love a good sized furball, in fact, most of my kills are from just that activity, but I have always been of the school of thought that whenever you have conditions for victory, you should work towards that.
After all, furballing is fun, and you'll very rarely see me in a tank or half track, but twisting around in a big old furball while my base is shot out from under me just sticks in my craw something awful.
I much prefer to attack, and keep attacking, until my team wins, performing whatever job needs doing to the best of my ability. that's what I find fun, to dive from altitude onto the enemy base, pulling up just after I release my thousand-pounders, then climb back up to cover the next heavy bird from attack; to roll across the map, enjoying every furball that I run into, keeping the bomber gunners' attention as my wingman swoops in and severs a wing, then to follow when they turn their attention to him, to grab the other team by the nose, and to kick them in the ass, to support the campaign as an integral part of the combined force.
Am I the only one who thinks this way? I feel like the only one.
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Without "furballers", the "win t3h wor" fanboi's would not be able to take their precious bases.
Without "toolshedders", the "furballers", wouldn't have the furballs.
In April I will have played this game for 6 years. I no longer care if Rooks "win" and get free perks. I earn em by flying a cartoon aircraft in a game. I also don't gripe about the ENY because I fly Mid-war/early-war rides in the Late war's.
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Originally posted by Apers
One of the biggest sources of consternation for me in this game is how half the time everyone is content to just flit about above our own airfields and not actually attack the enemy.
May I be the first to call this a troll?
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
May I be the first to call this a troll?
- oldman
It's not. I just naturally sound like a bastard. I genuinely want to know if I'm the only one who feels like there's more to the game than circling in one spot and waiting for the enemy to come to you. And I would very much like to fly with like-minded people so I don't wind up just randomly yelling at folks.
which happens alot, mind you.
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Originally posted by Apers
It's not. I just naturally sound like a bastard. I genuinely want to know if I'm the only one who feels like there's more to the game than circling in one spot and waiting for the enemy to come to you. And I would very much like to fly with like-minded people so I don't wind up just randomly yelling at folks.
which happens alot, mind you.
I would not want to be yelled at for playing the game the way I wanted to. I would not be yelling at someone playing the game the way they wanted to. I am not big on landgrabbing. I don't circle over my field either. I generally leave my field and go find a fight somewhere there is red icons. If it helps the landgrabbers that's cool. If it doesn't then don't yell at me, you will be making a fool out of yourself if you do.
Mark
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Originally posted by Apers
It's not. I just naturally sound like a bastard. I genuinely want to know if I'm the only one who feels like there's more to the game than circling in one spot and waiting for the enemy to come to you. And I would very much like to fly with like-minded people so I don't wind up just randomly yelling at folks.
which happens alot, mind you.
Join a sqaud of like minded folks... Simple really.
To push your idea on what I or anyone else should be doing is pointless.
1. You will be ignored and most likely squelched
2. You will look like an idiot
my $.02
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I prefer denying the other team their base takes. it's also my favorite time to taunt on 200 as emotions are high and frustration is too. today I was PM'd with an assortment of threats from some very disgruntled and stymied bish. ahhhhh nothing as satisfying as a good days work. bish DENIED at P55 in the EW details at 11.
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Originally posted by sgt203
Join a sqaud of like minded folks... Simple really.
any recommendations?
Originally posted by sgt203
To push your idea on what I or anyone else should be doing is pointless.
Which is why I don't want to.
Originally posted by Mark Luper
I would not want to be yelled at for playing the game the way I wanted to.
I never said there was a reason for yelling, I just get frustrated and randomly yell things.
besides, I don't want to yell. I don't like it. it makes my throat sore and wakes up the neighbors.
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Maybe I'm about to romanticise in my nostalgia but when fuel was porkable to 25% fighters actually left their field to meet the cons......I wonder why?
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Originally posted by Apers
It's not. I just naturally sound like a bastard. I genuinely want to know if I'm the only one who feels like there's more to the game than circling in one spot and waiting for the enemy to come to you. And I would very much like to fly with like-minded people so I don't wind up just randomly yelling at folks.
which happens alot, mind you.
So here's the deal from my perspective. just got done with the scenario. Flew 4 Frames, got 1 kill. Had a blast.
I would classify myself as a furballer in the MA. I don't care about taking bases in there. One looks the same as the next to me. "Winning the war" means a start over to me. Seems kinda silly.
That being said, more power to ya if that's what you want.
I had no problem sticking with the plan and escorting bombers in the scenario. Each side had similar numbers. There was a goal, and working together served a purpose beyond a 'do over'. More often then not in the MA it's a country with large numbers going after the one with small numbers.
I don't see that purpose in the MA. More often then not in the MA it's a country with large numbers going after the one with small numbers.
It is a place for all kinds of play and if you want to roll the map, go for it. I'll be on the other side going up into the mob to try and shoot em down.
Bottom line, play how you have fun best.
:aok
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Sounds to me like your wanting everyone to play your way even though you deny it, why else would you be asking if anyone else felt the same way you do about a game. As you stated earleir "you wanted to fly with like minded people" that's the same as "play my way".
I don't say how you play is wrong but let everyone else decide how they play and if you happen to fly near a group that seems to have the same goals as you ask if you could fly with them for awhile to see if it's a good match up.
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Originally posted by xbrit
Sounds to me like your wanting everyone to play your way even though you deny it, why else would you be asking if anyone else felt the same way you do about a game. As you stated earleir "you wanted to fly with like minded people" that's the same as "play my way".
I don't say how you play is wrong but let everyone else decide how they play and if you happen to fly near a group that seems to have the same goals as you ask if you could fly with them for awhile to see if it's a good match up.
don't make silly assumptions about people's character.
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Originally posted by Apers
any recommendations?/B]
you can join the 5th SOAR they are always winning the war. in fact the rth SOAR are probably the very pinnacle of AH base taking tacticians, so long as the base are undefended of course.
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this thread needs skuzzified before it goes in the totally wrong direction...and it can...it has...in the past.....so just end the madness before it starts :)
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Long & short of it, its the other guys dime, he flys the way he choses.
Do what you can with what you have, and make the best of it.
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Originally posted by Apers
sticks in my craw something awful.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Apers you were doing fine until you put out, "I feel like the only one". Well your not the only one that feels that way. But in this thread youve ran into a few that have no problems telling others how to play but dont dare suggest "they" should play a different way.
Truth is a lot of guys enjoy furballing. I personally enjoy strategy and teamwork, "as well as blowing things up". To each their own, its all good baby. I know with the Rooks you often get loose coalitions working together to take bases and choke off the Bish and Knits with bombers and Jabos. At the same time others are furballing and tying up gobs of enemy fighters. When you have the right mix, and Dredger and Lynx are on-line, bases fall. And fighters fall in the furball.
Lately Ive been taking out ords at the frontline. Does it help the team?? Yeah probably. But it also means Im likely to get a little action too.
Storch Im sure the 5'th SOAR has nothing but good to say about you too.:lol This is about the 10'th post in a row Ive seen you badmouthing somebody. I'll bet you got picked on a lot as a kid. Or, you are actually "a kid".
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Long time ago was a discussion on having one arena for furballers and second one for winning wars, I agree the arenas should stay way they are.
Ones who want to take bases need to join a squad and do squad opperations and leave those who pay 15 bucks just to furball to do just that. I happen to be a rounded experienced player, prefer furballing, base taking, and special events, so I really don't care on winning a war simply because the perks wont even match one sortie i make shooting down aircraft, if were making a push ill gladly help out in porking and such. Just funny to hear on country channel that there is ALWAYS something someone has to cry about. ENY, HO Ram, w3r Winners, check 6 calls etc.
Pay your 15 bucks and play how you want, don't care bout anyone else.
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I think he has a valid point. I often wondered why, rather than circling their own bases defensively people didn't fly over and attack the enemy base next door. So, in my quest for turning the war around I'd be the one to do so.
I'd start a base back, fly over the incoming cons to get to their base then attack them while they were low and slow. It just seemed like good common tactical sense (and still does).
On the other hand, I've spent a little time circling waiting for the incoming cons and now I realize why people do it. It's easy.
You get a big support group (hoard) against a straggling conga line of incoming single cons and even if they have E to begin with they don't keep it for long. You have a nearby base to quickly land your kills when the action settles or to get to if you take damage. You can up, get kills, land and re-up at least a couple of times while each enemy spends their time in transit. You don't have to put up with enemy ack or worry about fuel or an exit strategy.
I think everyone should limit their game to circling their own bases from now on (Storch will like this because that's what Seagulls do around garbage scows looking for an easy meal).
And for those who might disagree, play my way or die s***a's! :p
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Without "furballers", the "win t3h wor" fanboi's would not be able to take their precious bases.
Without "toolshedders", the "furballers", wouldn't have the furballs.
In April I will have played this game for 6 years. I no longer care if Rooks "win" and get free perks. I earn em by flying a cartoon aircraft in a game. I also don't gripe about the ENY because I fly Mid-war/early-war rides in the Late war's.
Word.
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Originally posted by Apers
don't make silly assumptions about people's character.
LOL you post like an armchair general and then whine when others don't agree with you.
Your funny you make my dog look smart.
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Originally posted by xbrit
LOL you post like an armchair general and then whine when others don't agree with you.
Your funny you make my dog look smart.
I'm not whining, I'm stating that you're attacking my character. and you continue to do so.
I'm simply stating an observation, and trying to find others of like mind to fly with. You're simply trolling.
Once again, I love furballs. I just wish they weren't directly over friendly bases half the time. Sometimes I'd like them to be over the enemy base, or the water. I like to vary my entertainment.
I'll give the 5th SOAR a look-see.
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I'm simply stating an observation, and trying to find others of like mind to fly with. You're simply trolling.
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Just like I first said you want people to play like you.
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Originally posted by Apers
I'll give the 5th SOAR a look-see.
*snicker*
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Is there a time limit whereupon a base defense/base attack
or establishing a cap/breaking a cap becomes A FURBALL! :O
Maybe we can establish a strict time limit and if it is exceeded we can all auger count to 30 and up somewhere else..
no sense fostering rumors of AIR COMBAT!
A good base take would be to prevail over a strong defense.... so if you cant get it done while we tie up the fighters don't blame us:D
Turns out I can drop bombs on empty buildings offline.
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It's all about the fight, if you're playing this game to not have a fight, then you're playing for all the wrong reasons!!!!:aok
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Originally posted by storch
you can join the 5th SOAR they are always winning the war. in fact the rth SOAR are probably the very pinnacle of AH base taking tacticians, so long as the base are undefended of course.
The 708th Rolling Flatulence also fall into that category.
ack-ack
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AKAK! where u been??? i havent seen u in the MA in long time.
hope all is well <>
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I log on to do what I want to. Every now and then I will "try" to help with a base capture (cant believe I admitted that) but generally I just look for a fight here and there.
The Squad I'm in can take bases and knows how to. And , I might add generally does a good job when we set out to do that.
However , If "winning" the "war" was basically the only way to get perks , I'd have zippo.
I make more perkies in an hour of flying usually than if the Knights win(which is hardaly ever:lol )
I've been in the Toolsheddar bunch....After leaving it and just learning to die more to bullets than ACK.....I have found alot more fun.
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Originally posted by betty
AKAK! where u been??? i havent seen u in the MA in long time.
hope all is well <>
Usually fly in MW as the plane match up is far better than any of the other arenas and more likely to find 1v1 fights instead of the perpetual gang fests found on all sides in the LW arena.
^__^
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The 708th Rolling Flatulence also fall into that category.
ack-ack
:rofl I needed a good hearty laugh, thanks
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The 708th Rolling Flatulence also fall into that category.
ack-ack
:rofl
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Long & short of it, its the other guys dime, he flys the way he choses.
Do what you can with what you have, and make the best of it.
I'd say that about nails it. :)
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Originally posted by betty
this thread needs skuzzified before it goes in the totally wrong direction...and it can...it has...in the past.....so just end the madness before it starts :)
I agree, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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Has any noticed that its only the "We MUST win the war" type players that are always complaining about how "other people" play?
Furballers/fighter types complain too, but mostly they complain about how the "win the war" types are always complaining :D
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Has any noticed that its only the "We MUST win the war" type players that are always complaining about how "other people" play?
Furballers/fighter types complain too, but mostly they complain about how the "win the war" types are always complaining :D
AMEN!
dude! some noob the other night went off on country sayin how we all sucked because we wasnt " winning the war"
gotta luv their energy but.....soon they will learn that there is more to the game than just that....hell...i log in for couple hours a night if i can just to "furball" find some good fights...and out i go....btw....boozwah! some awsome fights the other day! wooot! luv them kinda fights :)
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Your original post makes zero sense. If people just stayed over their fields waiting, which they don't, the horde would slaughter them and be vulching very quickly. Only when the fight is inbetween bases does a perpetual furball erupt.
People very rarely stay over their field waiting. It's a waste of time. They head to the enemy and fight or run. I'm assuming you do the running, crying to everyone else why they're not attacking "like they should be."
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Originally posted by Apers
I'll give the 5th SOAR a look-see.
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Bronk:
*snicker*
I darm near spit pepsi over the monitor on this one....
Thanks Bronk I needed a good laugh.... In fact Im still laughing!!!:D :lol
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Originally posted by acfireguy26
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No NOT THE TROLL! Are we related? That is what I've called my mother-in-law for about 35 years and the pic looks just like her. ROFLOL
To get back on topic... The only time I think about "winning the war" is when we've had the same frigging map for ages and needs a reset. It don't happen often.
All the Best...
Jay
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