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Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: soda72 on October 29, 2007, 12:04:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7068041.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7068041.stm)

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Local emergency officials say a faulty tap allowed radioactive
waste to leak from a tank onto a stretch of road at the Mayak plant last
Thursday.


Looks like no one was hurt, thank goodness....



Now how safe are those Iranian reactors again?
Title: Re: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Boroda on October 29, 2007, 02:01:50 PM
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Originally posted by soda72
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7068041.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7068041.stm)

Looks like no one was hurt, thank goodness....

Now how safe are those Iranian reactors again?


Didn't hear it in the news.

Mayak is an extremely old factory, the first big disaster happened there in late-50s, when a radioactive waste storage container, in fact - a just a silo pit, blew up and contaminated a huge area. It's just a relic of a prehistoric age in nuclear industry.
Title: Re: Re: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: AWMac on October 29, 2007, 02:13:44 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Didn't hear it in the news.

Mayak is an extremely old factory, the first big disaster happened there in late-50s, when a radioactive waste storage container, in fact - a just a silo pit, blew up and contaminated a huge area. It's just a relic of a prehistoric age in nuclear industry.


LMFAO...

:rofl

Mac
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Russian on October 29, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
http://lenta.ru/news/2007/10/29/train/

In other hidden from america news, train with sulferic acid collided in Minnesota which forced evacuation of 350 in 1500 people town.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: john9001 on October 29, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
http://lenta.ru/news/2007/10/29/train/

In other hidden from america news, train with sulferic acid collided in Minnesota which forced evacuation of 350 in 1500 people town.


but was it radioactive acid?

it is a good thing that Iran will have russian nuke factories, it will solve two problems.

and russian, why do you live in such a dangerous country like america, would you not feel safer in mother russia?
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: WMLute on October 29, 2007, 02:40:09 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
http://lenta.ru/news/2007/10/29/train/

In other hidden from america news, train with sulferic acid collided in Minnesota which forced evacuation of 350 in 1500 people town.


odd...

found that story in @ 2 seconds.

LINK (http://wcco.com/local/clara.city.train.2.414675.html)

"Hydrochloric" not sulferic btw.

Evacuation was just a precaution.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Yeager on October 29, 2007, 02:40:21 PM
the more we continue to carry on with procreation, the more we start to look like each other.  Eventually we will all look afriasiaeuroarican :confused:
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Russian on October 29, 2007, 02:51:07 PM
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Originally posted by WMLute
odd...

found that story in @ 2 seconds.

LINK (http://wcco.com/local/clara.city.train.2.414675.html)

"Hydrochloric" not sulferic btw.

Evacuation was just a precaution.


Odd indeed. None of big news carry this info....hmm...evil-freedom-giving conspiracy.


Oh, and doesn't some consider "hydrochloric' as WMD? So WMD train crashed and entire town evacuated, yet CNN/FOX is showing 'news' about Simpson....
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Pooh21 on October 29, 2007, 03:03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
the more we continue to carry on with procreation, the more we start to look like each other.  Eventually we will all look afriasiaeuroarican :confused:


gingers with afros?:eek:
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: WMLute on October 29, 2007, 03:11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
Odd indeed. None of big news carry this info....hmm...evil-freedom-giving conspiracy.


Oh, and doesn't some consider "hydrochloric' as WMD? So WMD train crashed and entire town evacuated, yet CNN/FOX is showing 'news' about Simpson....


Found it on FoxNews.
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305881,00.html)

Who really cares about a train accident where nobody was hurt in a small town in Minn?  Hardy "Breaking News".
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Pooh21 on October 29, 2007, 03:13:17 PM
Maybe they think it is like Russian news where such a story would be a front for hundreds dead.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Wolfala on October 29, 2007, 03:32:16 PM
I hope you guys don't think this is the only radiological incident that hasn't been reported.

Here's a few examples listed from the archives - but there are literally hundreds:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/radevents/index.html#4

And a few reports go along with it apart from the abstracts

http://www.csirc.net/docs/reports/la-13638.pdf (http://www.csirc.net/docs/reports/la-13638.pdf)
http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/7c20.pdf (http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/7c20.pdf)
http://www.csirc.net/docs/reports/la-13638.pdf (http://www.csirc.net/docs/reports/la-13638.pdf)
http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1997/105-9/focus-full.html (http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/1997/105-9/focus-full.html)
http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub815_web.pdf (http://)

http://www.irpa.net/irpa10/cdrom/00140.pdf (http://www.irpa.net/irpa10/cdrom/00140.pdf)

http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/7c20.pdf (http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/7c20.pdf)
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2007, 05:56:37 PM
Well yanno what it is.
The Radiation leak caused the train crash.
Butterfly theory in effect.

Wow.
wonder what that caused
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Masherbrum on October 29, 2007, 06:00:01 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Well yanno what it is.
The Radiation leak caused the train crash.
Butterfly theory in effect.

Wow.
wonder what that caused
:noid
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Slash27 on October 29, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
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Originally posted by Russian
Odd indeed. None of big news carry this info....hmm...evil-freedom-giving conspiracy.


Oh, and doesn't some consider "hydrochloric' as WMD? So WMD train crashed and entire town evacuated, yet CNN/FOX is showing 'news' about Simpson....



It really must suck to be you.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Boroda on October 29, 2007, 08:19:40 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
It really must suck to be you.


Here in our barbaric Russia chlorine contamination is usually in national news. Chlorine is a WMD just in case you didn't know. We still have remnants of civilian defense here. Working in Chemical Physics institute I know when and where I have to run. And I can watch an old shut down nuclear reactor right form my window at work.

In Russian language Hydrochloric and Sulfuric acids sound almost the same.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Slash27 on October 30, 2007, 12:08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Here in our barbaric Russia chlorine contamination is usually in national news. Chlorine is a WMD just in case you didn't know. We still have remnants of civilian defense here. Working in Chemical Physics institute I know when and where I have to run. And I can watch an old shut down nuclear reactor right form my window at work.

In Russian language Hydrochloric and Sulfuric acids sound almost the same.


 I wasnt bagging on your country Boroda, was in reference to the other stuff he posted.


Thought about you the other day oddly enough. I was at the local county airport and got to check out an Il-78 "Midas" that was parked there. I would post a pick if I knew how.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: MiloMorai on October 30, 2007, 06:59:49 AM
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Originally posted by WMLute
Found it on FoxNews.
Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,305881,00.html)

Who really cares about a train accident where nobody was hurt in a small town in Minn?  Hardy "Breaking News".

CLARA CITY, Minn. —  A train derailed and spilled acid early Monday, forcing hundreds to evacuate and schools to close.

The train struck another train that was parked at about 4 a.m., and at least one car leaked hydrochloric acid, a Chippewa County sheriff's dispatcher said. Burlington Northern Santa Fe representative Steve Forsberg said an estimated 50 or more train cars were derailed.

Mayor Curt Koenen said around 400 people were evacuated to a church. A school district canceled classes because of the chemical spill.

Hydrochloric acid is a highly corrosive liquid that can cause burns if it comes into direct contact with skin or eyes.

Clara City, with a population of about 1,340, is about 21 miles southwest of Willmar.


I think Russian has a problem with math. Since when is ~400 out of a population of 1340 an entire town.
Title: Re: Re: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: VWE on October 30, 2007, 10:10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Didn't hear it in the news.

Mayak is an extremely old factory, the first big disaster happened there in late-50s, when a radioactive waste storage container, in fact - a just a silo pit, blew up and contaminated a huge area. It's just a relic of a prehistoric age in nuclear industry.



Yeah, WTG... that added comment makes me feel so much better about the ticking russian nuclear time bomb.  :confused:
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: john9001 on October 30, 2007, 10:24:11 AM
""Mayak is an extremely old factory, the first big disaster happened there in late-50s, when a radioactive waste storage container, in fact - a just a silo pit, blew up and contaminated a huge area. It's just a relic of a prehistoric age in nuclear industry.""

shippingport, pa is the first nuke power plant in the USA, it is still working and it has never blown up. Stupid americans build good relics.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: AWMac on October 30, 2007, 10:45:32 AM
Vodka is WMD.... Weapon of Moscows Destruction.

:p

Mac
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Charon on October 30, 2007, 10:57:54 AM
"Marked One...What the Hell!"

Charon
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: -dead- on October 30, 2007, 01:24:11 PM
Hah! That sort of thing would never happen in the West with their far superior safety records!

There were hardly any leaks during the whole 6 years that the US had an actual working nuclear reprocessing plant!

It didn't happen for a whole 8 years at the UK's new, much safer THORP plant in Sellafield (AKA Windscale -- the older plant being less safe to the point where the only way to avoid the name Windscale being linked with radioactive leaks was to change it to Sellafield).

COGEMA La Hague tips 1m litres of liquid radioactive waste a day into the ocean by design, so we can hardly count that as an accident.

And Japan's worst commercial nuclear disaster happened at a nuclear reprocessing plant is down to the fact that all the workers were untrained in the oh-so-superior Japanese safety procedures.

And let's face it, if there is a question of safety you can just shut the plant down. Problem solved, safe as houses, like Dounreay in Scotland, with the result of the high levels of safety we can see today:

(http://www.blottertest.com/ah/dounreay.jpg)

I think we can all sleep safer in the knowledge that at least the West isn't all dodgy and unsafe about their nuclear reprocessing, unlike those backward idiot Russians... who are so dumb, they make it look like nuclear reprocessing is dangerous or something!
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Slash27 on October 30, 2007, 05:08:38 PM
I would be happy with tooth paste and dogfood thats not laced with lead.
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: soda72 on October 30, 2007, 05:09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
I would be happy with tooth paste and dogfood thats not laced with lead.


:lol
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: john9001 on October 30, 2007, 05:13:57 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
I would be happy with tooth paste and dogfood thats not laced with lead.


you eat dogfood?
Title: Radiation leak at Russian plant
Post by: Slash27 on October 30, 2007, 09:56:11 PM
uh.....