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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lazs2 on October 31, 2007, 08:16:11 AM
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What would you do? say they put a vice tax or fee or some other democrat scheme on ammo that raised the price by a factor of say four times as high?
I have a lot of ammo on hand but I also reload. I have a lot of components and dies for about 20 different rounds. I have molds for some.
I would stock up on components big time if I could see it coming.
I would buy a lot more serious casting equipment.. molds... dies etc.
lazs
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being the crafty lawyers they are I could see them also taxing reloading dies and equipment, brass, powder, primers, etc..... Actually I'm surprised they havent made up some law or reg requiring a special license to purchase powder... stock up? how long can you keep powder before it starts to degrade
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powder? virtually forever if stored properly. even not so properly most times.
Yep.. you would have to stock up but even 20 lbs of powder goes a long way.
The crafty democrats would realize that some would get by. they would ignore us since they know the score.. very few would bother... very few people are ever prepared for anything. Most don't even have a decent amount of food or cash on hand.
The store and the atm will be there for them right? cash is obsolete right? just like we don't use paper for anything anymore now that we have computers right?
lazs
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i see a business opportunity, ammo smugglers.
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Hey!
Did you know sence the 90's (Clinton time) there are members of Congress trying to do just that? An outright ban on all typs of ammo, that's right and there still at it.
and what would I do? Show me going to those "Other gun dealers" in the hood.
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all you would need to do is regulate Primers
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Originally posted by john9001
i see a business opportunity, ammo smugglers.
And the kennedy's could make another cool billion without even trying.
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I think another question worth considering is how much gunpowder, at its absolute most efficient, would be required to propel enough bullets to end the prospect of left-wing influence on this country once and for all.
A ton?
2500 lbs?
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Laz I think it would create a greater danger as folks would practice less and be less accustomed to their carry.
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Originally posted by Neubob
I think another question worth considering is how much gunpowder, at its absolute most efficient, would be required to propel enough bullets to end the prospect of left-wing influence on this country once and for all.
A ton?
2500 lbs?
None,
I may be on the right, but ..........maybe....... no.
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well.. sure.. it would be bad for everyone all the way around but since when has that ever stopped a government?
any single component that was banned would be the end of reloading at some point.. the exception would be blackpowder arms... you can make the primers and the powder and the bullets...
and.. what they did then.. they can still do today.
lazs
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something like that would cause a possible other problem.
Idiots like the guy here in Milwaukee that blew himself up reloading while smoking a cigarette or something like that. from what I heard / remember he blew up his whole basement.
if people not responsible or knowledgeable enough started mass-reloading you could run into a lot of problems.
someone like myself, I don't know enough to safely reload ammo, but I DO know enough to not just go out and buy the equipment and start doing it for fun. You know America, land of the dumb that need warning labels on shampoo.
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Well... when you look at some of these bone heads people elect to office I'd say its only a matter of a decade or 2 before we lose our 2nd adm rights.
We cant control bodies coming into the US.... isnt it great that they'll think they can control weapons?
If you want to take out America just leave us to ourselves.... we'll do it for you sooner or later.
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Originally posted by lazs2
well.. sure.. it would be bad for everyone all the way around but since when has that ever stopped a government?
any single component that was banned would be the end of reloading at some point.. the exception would be blackpowder arms... you can make the primers and the powder and the bullets...
and.. what they did then.. they can still do today.
lazs
Hmmm...You know, Lasz, I'd be willing to wager they would go after Lead(bullets.) It's already classified as a Hazardous material. The EPA would come to your house decked out in Tyveck suits and respirators to remove it (and they would bill you for it, too.)
Oh, you could use bronze, or Straight copper, for projectiles. It's just harder to get either of those. And harder to work them into projectile shapes.
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lead is readily available. wheel weights are made of it.. you can cast your own.
You can turn bullets from pure brass or copper or even cast bullets from silver and get the old werewolf and vampire protection bonus at the same time.
If they make ammo and components illegal... you aren't going to shoot much in any case.. you just want the capability.
There will always be the capability.
lazs
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If they started restricting ammo I'd build one hell of a stockpile a bit at a time. It's sort of like how I currently stockpile sudafed... Damned if I'm going to run out of sudafed because the govt feels the need to protect retard dopeheads from themselves, and damned if I'm going to run out of ammo from lack of planning ahead.
It's like waiting periods on handgun purchase... For a criminal, all that means is that their checklist of crap to do before murdering someone has to start one week earlier (or one day earlier if you plan on simply stealing a gun from some sucker who waited his week).
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If they regulated brass, primers, or other reloading components, black powder would see a huge comeback. There are some nifty modern black powder firearms out there... Some are even in pretty hefty calibers. My favorites are the ones that have a large caliber (above .50) but use sabot rounds to push a really ballistically efficient projectile at a high velocity. Neato.
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Originally posted by eagl
If they regulated brass, primers, or other reloading components, black powder would see a huge comeback. There are some nifty modern black powder firearms out there... Some are even in pretty hefty calibers. My favorites are the ones that have a large caliber (above .50) but use sabot rounds to push a really ballistically efficient projectile at a high velocity. Neato.
Yeah, I cant remeber maybe EEA? has a little 22 longrifle revolver, about the size of two fingers....
They now make a black power cap and ball version and its legal to carry concealed in California, I THINK.... kinda funny though
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
And the kennedy's could make another cool billion without even trying.
Smuggling illegal weapons is a Bush family trait, not Kennedy.
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I am moving to Idaho early next year. No shortage of ammo there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spud_gun
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Idiots like the guy here in Milwaukee that blew himself up reloading while smoking a cigarette or something like that
Smokeless powder, the kind used in reloading modern ammunition doesn't explode. It burns. The only way you get an explosion out of it is if it catches on fire while inside an tightly closed container. The container also has to be strong enough to not give way immediately, it has to hold some of the pressure until enough builds up that an explosion can occur. The containers the stuff comes in is not strong enough to cause an explosion if the powder inside were to catch on fire.
If the guy was reloading much older cartridges with black powder, then yeah, he could blow himself and the whole neighborhood up if he was smoking while reloading and had enough black powder on hand.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Smokeless powder, the kind used in reloading modern ammunition doesn't explode. It burns. The only way you get an explosion out of it is if it catches on fire while inside an tightly closed container. The container also has to be strong enough to not give way immediately, it has to hold some of the pressure until enough builds up that an explosion can occur. The containers the stuff comes in is not strong enough to cause an explosion if the powder inside were to catch on fire.
If the guy was reloading much older cartridges with black powder, then yeah, he could blow himself and the whole neighborhood up if he was smoking while reloading and had enough black powder on hand.
I would add that Cordite, or some of the other, older, Nitro-cellulose propellants will blow, especially if in a hot environment that aids decomposition-but that stuff's kinda rare anymore.
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blackpowder takes some special reloading procedures but is relatively safe if handled properly.. it has the advantage that anyone can make it.
Black powder revolvers and rifles are very good. You can make the caps from beer cans and you can make the bullets with a mold over the stove.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
blackpowder takes some special reloading procedures but is relatively safe if handled properly.. it has the advantage that anyone can make it.
Black powder revolvers and rifles are very good. You can make the caps from beer cans and you can make the bullets with a mold over the stove.
lazs
All powders are safe if handled properly. Smoking while reloading with black powder would not be considered safe handling. :D
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smoking while reloading would not be considered a safe practice. I have done it tho.. back in the day..
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
smoking while reloading would not be considered a safe practice. I have done it tho.. back in the day..
lazs
I did too while reloading shotgun shells with smokeless powder quite a few years ago.
In fact....one time a friend came over while I was reloading and smoking at the same time. He wanted to leave until I poured a small amount of powder on the concrete floor and then lit it with my cigarette to show him it wouldn't explode. True story. :D