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Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: LePaul on November 01, 2007, 11:03:52 AM
Well the tank is down to 1/4 and I've been shopping around.

Lowest is $2.92 a gallon, most are $3.06.  

Yikes.

Meanwhile I've got a girlfriend who leaves the bathroom window open after her shower and forgets about it.  So in comes the 40 degree air and my furnace runs needlessly.  Grrrr....:furious

(How is it when girls do something wrong, they whine and boohoo to the point its now somehow YOUR fault?)
Title: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: texasmom on November 01, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
(How is it when girls do something wrong, they whine and boohoo to the point its now somehow YOUR fault?)

Practice makes perfect. By the time they're old enough to be girlfriends, they've got it down nearly to perfection.  :p  Give it a few more years and you won't even be able to recognize that's what's happening.
Title: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 01, 2007, 11:14:53 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Meanwhile I've got a girlfriend who leaves the bathroom window open after her shower and forgets about it.  So in comes the 40 degree air and my furnace runs needlessly.  Grrrr....:furious


Acually, the 40 degree air doesn't come in... the heated air goes out.

Physics in the real world.
Title: Re: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: john9001 on November 01, 2007, 11:22:54 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Acually, the 40 degree air doesn't come in... the heated air goes out.

Physics in the real world.


what replaces the heated air?
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Modas on November 01, 2007, 11:34:44 AM
more heated air :D
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: nuchpatrick on November 01, 2007, 11:36:50 AM
I'd nail the frigging window shut.. Just my 2 cents :D
Title: Re: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Airscrew on November 01, 2007, 11:53:13 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Acually, the 40 degree air doesn't come in... the heated air goes out.

Physics in the real world.

Really?  so all the cold air that comes in around my front door because I need to replace the weatherstriping is just my imagination....?
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: AWMac on November 01, 2007, 12:00:29 PM
Either buy a few Big Furry Dogs or have the Girlfriend shave less.

Problem solved...... Next?


:D

Mac
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: LePaul on November 01, 2007, 12:29:09 PM
Well I bought new windows for the house this year.  Did half the house last year, then the rest this year.  Also did a new roof last year.  If I could afford it, I'd replace the 40 year old furnace...but that darn money tree isnt growing for me  :)
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: FTDEEP on November 01, 2007, 01:36:55 PM
give her all the money...tell she can have wats left after the bills. she'll close the window.
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Louis XVII on November 01, 2007, 07:41:32 PM
So convert to gas! There's plenty available in Iran, so after the US invades, we'll have as much as we like and it will be cheap! :D
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Maverick on November 01, 2007, 08:05:53 PM
I have to get some more propane now. That last 10 gallons just didn't last very long since I filled it last March. :(
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: kamilyun on November 01, 2007, 08:08:53 PM
Hugo Chavez is willing to help you... :D
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Meatwad on November 01, 2007, 09:36:20 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
I have to get some more propane now. That last 10 gallons just didn't last very long since I filled it last March. :(


How much is it there? Here it varies from 1.85 - 2.05 per gallon where I work at
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Sixpence on November 01, 2007, 10:31:01 PM
You're in Maine, no wood, pellet or corn stove? I'm down in Saugus, ma. and I was thinking pellet. I hear ya, got a 1/4 tank myself and haven't fired it up yet, I can't afford $600.00 for 200 gallons of heating oil.

I should have had the pellet stove put in during the summer, I saw all kinds of deals, now the price is higher but still may be worth it.
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Pooh21 on November 01, 2007, 11:18:41 PM
find a heater from a pinto and stick it in your droid.:rofl
or convert him to a franklin stove
Title: Re: Re: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: BaldEagl on November 02, 2007, 01:12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Really?  so all the cold air that comes in around my front door because I need to replace the weatherstriping is just my imagination....?


Well... yes... because the cold air is not coming in.  The warm air is going out.  Why?  Because air molecules bounce off one another.  The more that are bouncing, and the faster they hit one another, the more energy they transfer on impact, creating the sensation of heat.

When a colder air mass (less molecular movement) is close to a warmer air mass (more molecular movement), the molecules move toward the colder air mass, esentially the same as osmosis.  They are transferring energy to the most willing receptors in an attempt to equalize energy states.  This, in turn, reduces and slows the number of air molecules bouncing off one another in a local area near the conflicting air masses (near your door) making it "feel" cold.

At some point, this effect equalizes, so you only feel the "cold" around the leaky door, but not somewhere further from it.

I think I got all that right.  It's been a long time since my engineering  physics classes in college though.

Next we'll discuss the actual energy transfer proccess as electrons "jump" orbits around a molecular nucleus (quantum mechanics).
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: LePaul on November 02, 2007, 02:32:25 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
You're in Maine, no wood, pellet or corn stove? I'm down in Saugus, ma. and I was thinking pellet. I hear ya, got a 1/4 tank myself and haven't fired it up yet, I can't afford $600.00 for 200 gallons of heating oil.

I should have had the pellet stove put in during the summer, I saw all kinds of deals, now the price is higher but still may be worth it.


Something like that would be great for the living room or so...but as the source for hot water, Im not so sure.  From the new furnaces Ive read about, oil still offers the best economy and efficiency.  I am still reading about alternative-fueled ones, but as they are new, their track record remains unknown.
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Nilsen on November 02, 2007, 03:25:09 AM
We heat with electricity, paraffin and we extract heat from the ground plus pellets and wood. In a few years time we will get an offer on heat from a nearby industry complex when the pipes are layed in my area. Im really looking forward to that as it will cut the heating costs alot even if its gonna cost alot to get it installed. When that is done we can skip paraffin, alot of the electric heating and just use the wood when we want to snuggle infront of the fireplace to make more babies ;)
Title: Re: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: rpm on November 02, 2007, 03:50:11 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Well the tank is down to 1/4 and I've been shopping around.

Lowest is $2.92 a gallon, most are $3.06.  

Yikes.
How does biodiesel look now? .75 a gallon to make your own.
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: LePaul on November 02, 2007, 04:09:57 AM
Electricity here is .0897 cents per kilowatt hour.  Then they charge the transmission fee, taxes...pretty much every place that heated with electric has a a big hole in the wall where the unit was torn down and replaced with oil  :)  Its terribly expensive up here.  Now if we had our own nuclear plant, that would be nice!

As for bio-diesel, again....new technology with not a lot of track record for home heating purposes.  I'm not much for "home brewing" my heating needs.  I know, call me kooky  :)

I'd love to have a few zillion bucks to invest in geothermal options!
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: Nilsen on November 02, 2007, 04:22:36 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Electricity here is .0897 cents per kilowatt hour.  Then they charge the transmission fee, taxes...pretty much every place that heated with electric has a a big hole in the wall where the unit was torn down and replaced with oil  :)  Its terribly expensive up here.  Now if we had our own nuclear plant, that would be nice!

As for bio-diesel, again....new technology with not a lot of track record for home heating purposes.  I'm not much for "home brewing" my heating needs.  I know, call me kooky  :)

I'd love to have a few zillion bucks to invest in geothermal options!


Drilling the hole and laying the pipes for the geothermal thing was not so bad actually, but then we did it when we buildt the house and it depends on what kind of ground is around yer dwelling.
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: rpm on November 02, 2007, 04:39:09 AM
You may be kooky, but it's a viable fuel source. Granted there is initial startup cost of about $750- $1500 depending on how big a processor you get. After that all you have to do is haul off the used oil and crank up the thermostat.;)
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: eskimo2 on November 02, 2007, 10:41:09 AM
What’s the efficiency rating of your current furnace and how much efficiency has it lost in 30 years?  Also, when was the last time it was inspected?  Have you programmed R2 to call 911?
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: JBA on November 02, 2007, 02:06:06 PM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
I'd nail the "the girl friend" Just my 2 cents :D

FIXED
Title: Eh gad, home heating oil prices...
Post by: LePaul on November 02, 2007, 04:19:19 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
What’s the efficiency rating of your current furnace and how much efficiency has it lost in 30 years?  Also, when was the last time it was inspected?  Have you programmed R2 to call 911?


79%

Inspected and cleaned yearly.

Oh, and no on R2  :)  You are welcome to sift thru the build blog.