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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on November 01, 2007, 12:25:13 PM
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How did everyone like it? How did you do (score-potatos)? Did it make the difference you thought it would?
My take is that it was easier to score/rank. I didn't have to get nearly as many base captures and since all my milk-running was always in the LWA's anyway it made no difference.
I didn't step out of the LWA's all camp and got my highest rank ever (30th overall).
I might have been able to improve my fighter scores a bit by using the EW/MW arenas if the tours were still combined but actually had one of my better camps there too (fighter... while not impressive I'll take a 4XX rank since i spent almost the entire camp in a 190A-8).
All-in-all, I'd say it's a big benefit in that it allows even more people to be able to make the leader-boards and feel good about themselves if that's what they like.
On the downside, I might never see EW and MW again.
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One result is a huge loss in player numbers in EW.
Many people that came for score milking purposes used to stay a bit. Some more fighrs resulted of that, also drawn in where people that did like to hunt milk runners.
And as we all know, less player numbers in log in screen result in even less players deciding to take a look at EW.
After the first week, when word hadn't fully spread around about split score, EW had about 2% kills compared to LW. As time whent on, this number gradually declined day after day and now ended at about 1.3%. As this final number is the total tour average, you can clearly see that actuall player numbers have been a lot less in the last two weeks
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Ya EW and MW lost alot of dweebs and they all came to LW arena (one with lowest # of people). It was easy to find them, they were the ones way far away from the battles hitting strats and fields from 40K.
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Originally posted by Lusche
One result is a huge loss in player numbers in EW.
Many people that came for score milking purposes used to stay a bit. Some more fighrs resulted of that, also drawn in where people that did like to hunt milk runners.
And as we all know, less player numbers in log in screen result in even less players deciding to take a look at EW.
After the first week, when word hadn't fully spread around about split score, EW had about 2% kills compared to LW. As time whent on, this number gradually declined day after day and now ended at about 1.3%. As this final number is the total tour average, you can clearly see that actuall player numbers have been a lot less in the last two weeks
I don't think I have ever seen the EW or MW arenas with more than 20 people in them at any given time. In fact it is usually much less. Just my experience. I might actually go in there if there were approximately 60 or so players, but it has never been near that mark when I log in.
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Spazz
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I liked it.
I'll admit it, I care about my score. I try not to, but I do.
Before I was reluctant to head into the MW arena because I didn't want to kill my score by messing around in MW planes. But, this tour I spent quite a bit of time in there since my MW score didn't impact my LW score.
I actually did better in MW than I would have thought. I liked having the scores split because I could go into MW and 'goof around' with planes that I routinely get killed in in LW, and I could isolate those kills from my LW score where I'm all business.
I know this is utterly ridiculous, but I might as well be honest.
I actually found MW to be a very fun arena. Smaller numbers meant that you could have a good 1v1 fight, kinda like a MA AvA environment. And, there's some really good players in there, moreso than the LW MA it seemed like.
So, there ya go, my $.02.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
How did everyone like it? How did you do (score-potatos)? Did it make the difference you thought it would?
My take is that it was easier to score/rank. I didn't have to get nearly as many base captures and since all my milk-running was always in the LWA's anyway it made no difference.
I didn't step out of the LWA's all camp and got my highest rank ever (30th overall).
I might have been able to improve my fighter scores a bit by using the EW/MW arenas if the tours were still combined but actually had one of my better camps there too (fighter... while not impressive I'll take a 4XX rank since i spent almost the entire camp in a 190A-8).
All-in-all, I'd say it's a big benefit in that it allows even more people to be able to make the leader-boards and feel good about themselves if that's what they like.
On the downside, I might never see EW and MW again.
BaldEagl my old nemisis:lol Could you share your secret of how you could get such a high bomber rank with only 20 sorties? Kudos to you for your success this tour! Maybe you could share your insight into how the scoring system works! See ya in the LW arenas!
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I didn't see any real change besides i ran into more bombers.
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Originally posted by MajIssue
BaldEagl my old nemisis:lol Could you share your secret of how you could get such a high bomber rank with only 20 sorties? Kudos to you for your success this tour! Maybe you could share your insight into how the scoring system works! See ya in the LW arenas!
It's easy. I fly AR234's exclusively (in formation) and hit strat targets only (primarily cities). I can score ~400,000 on a good sortie, 200,000 on a bad one.
The 234's are so fast no one can catch me so I never die and I only fly C-47's for base capture when I KNOW I can get it done successfully to minimize the impact to my buff scoring (notice I had 1 ditch this camp... taxied a C-47 up to a town maproom then broke the stupid thing on a building trying to taxi back out after the capture).
The scoring system is simply the added ranks of the various sub-stats within the rank. Whoever has the lower #'s ranks higher.
For instance, at overall rank level, the sum of your fighter, bomber, attack and vehicle ranks determine your overall rank. In a fighter, the sum of your K/D, K/S, K/H and KH% ranks determine your fighter rank.
Nothing to hide.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
It's easy. I fly AR234's exclusively (in formation) and hit strat targets only (primarily cities). I can score ~400,000 on a good sortie, 200,000 on a bad one.
The 234's are so fast no one can catch me so I never die and I only fly C-47's for base capture when I KNOW I can get it done successfully to minimize the impact to my buff scoring (notice I had 1 ditch this camp... taxied a C-47 up to a town maproom then broke the stupid thing on a building trying to taxi back out after the capture).
The scoring system is simply the added ranks of the various sub-stats within the rank. Whoever has the lower #'s ranks higher.
For instance, at overall rank level, the sum of your fighter, bomber, attack and vehicle ranks determine your overall rank. In a fighter, the sum of your K/D, K/S, K/H and KH% ranks determine your fighter rank.
Nothing to hide.
Thank you for the valuable information, I fly alot of buffs and sometimes my impatience gets the best of me and I will sometimes bail after I drop ord to help out my squaddies or to re up more quickly. I'll try landing a few more bombing sorties this tour... maybe I can give you a run for your money!!
Pease excuse... I wasn't implying that everything wasn't on the up and up!:aok
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I find it quite amusing when you find some <200 ranked dween flying a spit and its easy to smash his brains out. I did it twice the other night, I was quite suprised too. And I'm only average so these guys must really suck.
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I got #1 in base captures and wasnt even trying..:p
late war that is..
Kevin
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Originally posted by falcon23
I got #1 in base captures and wasnt even trying..:p
late war that is..
Kevin
In EW you would have needed 107 base captures by goon to get #1...
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Originally posted by whiteman
I didn't see any real change besides i ran into more bombers.
I did. No Shawk on the scoreboard.
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They should just get rid of the ew and mw
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
They should just get rid of the ew and mw
And what should that move accomplish?
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Greetings,
I dunno. I kinda like bobbing to EW so I can and fly about in the Bf 110C model. That's pretty much suicide in the LW.
Regards,
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
They should just get rid of the ew and mw
And the reasons would be ?
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Originally posted by Lusche
In EW you would have needed 107 base captures by goon to get #1...
Thats obcene.
BTW, I do have to add that I miss getting to fight against some of the EW/MW regulars like Slapshot, NB and others. Come see me in LW :)
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Originally posted by Lusche
And what should that move accomplish?
Getting rid of the ew and mw....duh. :D
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Originally posted by Donzo
Getting rid of the ew and mw....duh. :D
Oh my.. I didn't think of that :o :lol
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I didnt notice any difference at all. But then I only fly in the MA's for fun or in the DA with my squad.
Later,
KayBay
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
They should just get rid of the ew and mw
Why? The MW arena has the best plane match ups of any of the arenas.
Or you want to get rid of them because you can no longer score potato in either of those arenas or don't have the hord to run to for safety?
ack-ack
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i liked the new system but then again i made the leader board
and that is what i wanted to do ! now i can fly late war like a crazy person then go to mid or early and do a more safe (score potato) mission. i did not fly early at all this time tho and i do think it suffered (not just cause i wasnt there LOL)!! in mid and early you will find some of the best sticks in the game and that makes it hard to keep a good score there!
Anyway SALUTE to all and CONGRATS, to those who made the board!!:aok
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I'm with ack ack, you seemed to get better fights in the MW arena. Hard to find people in there though. On the brighter side, I did manage to make it close to the top 100 in MW fighter (what else is there) with a big O in EW. No one bothers with ew any more.
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Originally posted by Bubbajj
No one bothers with ew any more.
Maybe if they 1) filled out the EW planeset a bit and 2) went back to having EW planes only in the EW arenas, that would change.
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Originally posted by E25280
Maybe if they 1) filled out the EW planeset a bit and 2) went back to having EW planes only in the EW arenas, that would change.
I doubt 1) will have much impact, maybe just a little bit.
And I thoroughly oppose 2) because flying EW planes against LW hordes can be fun, especially for veteran players wich are looking for some kind of challenge.
Also there are very few people that would venture into EW only to able to fly their beloved P40B ;)
You will probably never see EW as popular as LW arenas, but a combined overall ranking (with scores still split) might help a bit getting some number back. And that would result even in more air combat opposed to pure bombing & base grabbing we once had.
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Originally posted by Lusche
I doubt 1) will have much impact, maybe just a little bit.
And I thoroughly oppose 2) because flying EW planes against LW hordes can be fun, especially for veteran players wich are looking for some kind of challenge.
You are probably right. On the other hand, if the arenas were truly separate and distinct in terms of plane sets / match ups, there would be more reason for people to move around to chase variety.
Which is to say, there is no reason to fly a 109E in the EW arena when you can fly it in the LW arena where there are more targets. There is a reason to go to the EW arena if it is the only place to experience a 109E vs. Hurri I vs. F4-F vs. whatever low speed turn fight.
I was originally on the side of keeping all the planes in the LW arenas, but I have since changed my mind. I wonder if HTC had stuck to his guns a bit longer, and perhaps had some more EW offerrings to boot, if the distribution of players would be a little more balanced.
And it would be nice to see more balance, because right now, we have two MAs, and two sideshows (three if you count the AvA, which I adore BTW so keep your flames to yourself :p ). I find that to be a shame.
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Lol I noticed somethin,,,5th SOAR is nowhere to be seen in squad rankings:rofl
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Actually they ranked:
33rd in LW(s)
5th in MW
3rd in EW
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Lusche,
Just a quick question. What are the numbers in either the MW or EW arena when you fly. Like I stated in my original post to this thread the max I have seen has been approximately 20 players and that is at peak US time. Just curious because I agree that the plane match ups in those arenas can be a ton of fun, but with only a few players my time would be wasted searching for a fight. When the arenas first split EW was awesome because there were about 150 to 200 people flying in there all the time. I guess it was only a honeymoon period though.
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Spazz
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Originally posted by Spazzter
Lusche,
Just a quick question. What are the numbers in either the MW or EW arena when you fly. Like I stated in my original post to this thread the max I have seen has been approximately 20 players and that is at peak US time.
At beginning of last tour, EW numbers were in a range from 1-20 at offpeak times (that's when I'm flying most of the time). But at the same time where I could find at least 10-14 players at the beginning of last tour, it now has pretty much declined to 5 players or even less :(
Originally posted by Spazzter
When the arenas first split EW was awesome because there were about 150 to 200 people flying in there all the time. I guess it was only a honeymoon period though.
When arenas were split, most people just klicked on first arena in list, which happened to be EW. So initially EW had all the numbers. Many people didn't like to fly there even then, but still did it because of the numbers it had. Didn't last too long though...
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Lets get rid of score all together :)