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Title: stagnant
Post by: jhookt on November 05, 2007, 12:24:03 PM
HTC,

i know you guys are busy with CT and all but can we please, please, puhleeze have something other than lake uterus in both LWs?


thx.
Title: Re: stagnant
Post by: Rich46yo on November 05, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
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Originally posted by jhookt
HTC,

i know you guys are busy with CT and all but can we please, please, puhleeze have something other than lake uterus in both LWs?


thx.


                          In wishlist I asked for an auto change of maps after a certain number of days. And while were at it AH should never allow the same map in each LWMAs.
Title: stagnant
Post by: USRanger on November 05, 2007, 01:48:54 PM
Used to change every Wednesday.  PLEASE start doing that again.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Simaril on November 05, 2007, 01:51:09 PM
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Originally posted by USRanger
Used to change every Wednesday.  PLEASE start doing that again.


Please, oh please oh please....
Title: stagnant
Post by: Murdr on November 05, 2007, 01:53:25 PM
I asked for a trial run of large maps in LWs over weekends.

(waits for lusche to post a graph of terrain logs)
Title: stagnant
Post by: Lusche on November 05, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
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Originally posted by Murdr
I asked for a trial run of large maps in LWs over weekends.

(waits for lusche to post a graph of terrain logs)


:lol

That was a one-tour thing only
Title: stagnant
Post by: USRanger on November 05, 2007, 03:11:45 PM
There's absolutely no reason(imo) that the large maps should be gone.  Maps hardly ever get reset anymore, so what's the difference.  I'll just never understand how removing half the product was better for business.  I know some guys at HTC read the forums.  Why ignore the 50,000 we want our maps back posts.  It is by far the most complained about aspect of the "new" AH2, and such a simple fix.  I think a weekend trial would be awesome.  An excellent idea.  Of course, I went to public schools, so what do I know?:p
Title: stagnant
Post by: Stang on November 05, 2007, 04:21:34 PM
It's really simple.  With the big maps there just aren't enough people since the smaller MA's to make them viable.  You think the current setup is bad?  I don't like Uterus any better than you guys, but at least there are fights going on.  Even with 300 people on the big maps it would be a few gaggles of lemmings avoiding each other, racing around looking to avoid confrontation at all costs.  Yawn.  At off peak times there wouldn't be anything resembling a fight.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Lusche on November 05, 2007, 04:32:29 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
It's really simple.  With the big maps there just aren't enough people since the smaller MA's to make them viable.  You think the current setup is bad?  I don't like Uterus any better than you guys, but at least there are fights going on.  Even with 300 people on the big maps it would be a few gaggles of lemmings avoiding each other, racing around looking to avoid confrontation at all costs.  Yawn.  At off peak times there wouldn't be anything resembling a fight.


I don't think so.
Because now at off peak times, people who want to avoid each other drop into the lower populated arena, where exactly that happens.
Yet most other people log into the more populated one - attracted solely by higher player numbers, thus they are apparently looking for confrontation.

Whoever wan'ts to avoid any fight can actually do it now easily with server numbers like 170/200 and 24/120 (That are numbers when I usually log on first time each day)
So, in my opinion, it wouldn't get much "worse" on a single large two or three hotspots with bigger fights and a lot of remote "sneak" action going on. But unlike now, those can be easily recognised & countered by the whole arena.
Whereas in current setting the lower poulated arena at off-peak times often has only players with some sort of strange unwritten agreement: I sneak yours and you sneak mine...
Title: stagnant
Post by: Stang on November 05, 2007, 04:50:04 PM
The only times the big maps in the old MA had a heck of a lot of interaction going on was when one side was near a reset or there was a bottleneck that forced fighting.  It was always a total bore upping from one field, watching a few people die and seeing the enemy totally evaporate, then having to land or auger and chase them to a far off place on the map for the same thing to happen because they get frustrated and move on to the next "easier" base.

I think that's the reason Ht implemented that capturable base design on the bigger maps a while back, to force people to interact.  What's the point of flying against other humans if you don't want to engage them?  

For some reason the majority of people want to be able to take real estate virtually unopposed.  They may say that's not true, but it is.  It's very frustrating for them trying to achieve their goal, only to be shot down or having to dump their ord because enemies stand in their way.  

If you're a land grabber, which is perfectly legit in my book, it just makes it easier and much more enjoyable if you don't have to fight very hard for a base.  You can take bases, hand out the wtg's, slap each other on the backs and say "Yeah we're kickin their butts!"  and have your kind of fun.  That's fine.  I'm just saying it bores the heck out of me, and it seems HTC decided the way it was on the big maps wasn't the best for the community either.
Title: stagnant
Post by: moot on November 05, 2007, 04:56:22 PM
The current maps are stale.  If not brand new maps, there should be more rotation.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Bronk on November 05, 2007, 04:59:31 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
The only times the big maps in the old MA had a heck of a lot of interaction going on was when one side was near a reset or there was a bottleneck that forced fighting.  It was always a total bore upping from one field, watching a few people die and seeing the enemy totally evaporate, then having to land or auger and chase them to a far off place on the map for the same thing to happen because they get frustrated and move on to the next "easier" base.

I think that's the reason Ht implemented that capturable base design on the bigger maps a while back, to force people to interact.  What's the point of flying against other humans if you don't want to engage them?  

For some reason the majority of people want to be able to take real estate virtually unopposed.  They may say that's not true, but it is.  It's very frustrating for them trying to achieve their goal, only to be shot down or having to dump their ord because enemies stand in their way.  

If you're a land grabber, which is perfectly legit in my book, it just makes it easier and much more enjoyable if you don't have to fight very hard for a base.  You can take bases, hand out the wtg's, slap each other on the backs and say "Yeah we're kickin their butts!"  and have your kind of fun.  That's fine.  I'm just saying it bores the heck out of me, and it seems HTC decided the way it was on the big maps wasn't the best for the community either.


Well said IMHO.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Wingnutt on November 05, 2007, 05:45:57 PM
big maps + 1.0 fuel burn mult = win.. IMO


or perhaps 1 LW withbig one with small.

when there are few people on and they want a fight, go to the small arena.. when there are lots and want a bigger map.. go to the big one..

variety.
Title: stagnant
Post by: bj229r on November 05, 2007, 06:00:46 PM
Lake Uterus has a fixable problem---the North countries have a difficult time fighting--the mountain range in middle is a lot like that beastly thing that surrounded tank town in Trinity---gotta pass 11k to get over it---too much of an obstacle for attackers so they go south, which is lots easier (plus, watermelon rolls downhill:aok )
Title: stagnant
Post by: moot on November 05, 2007, 06:03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Wingnutt
big maps + 1.0 fuel burn mult = win.. IMO


or perhaps 1 LW withbig one with small.

when there are few people on and they want a fight, go to the small arena.. when there are lots and want a bigger map.. go to the big one..

variety.

This should deserve a try if it hasn't got one yet..
Title: stagnant
Post by: TwentyFo on November 05, 2007, 06:04:59 PM
One word...... Ghi!!!!!!


If ghi would get on again, the bishops would reset the map in about a day.
Title: stagnant
Post by: jhookt on November 05, 2007, 06:40:17 PM
personally i have come to the point of perhaps rallying a few other paying subscribers to call the offices. i just feel like HTC has become wrapped up in future plans that we have been neglected.
Title: stagnant
Post by: RumbleB on November 05, 2007, 08:29:51 PM
My least favourite map of all and it's been on for what, 3 weeks? It's driving me insane.
Do HTC even know what's going on with it? It's like they're not even paying attention.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Murdr on November 06, 2007, 12:29:40 AM
I'd still like to see trinity, no matter what stang says :P
Title: stagnant
Post by: kilz on November 06, 2007, 01:27:19 AM
man we go thru this every so often you know skuzzy is not going to reply to this thread and you know we will not get the big fun maps back. once again the crying of hordes on the big maps has screwed us out of the fun they brought
Title: stagnant
Post by: Stang on November 06, 2007, 01:48:42 AM
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Originally posted by kilz
once again the crying of hordes on the big maps has screwed us out of the fun they brought
So hording was fun?

:huh
Title: stagnant
Post by: SD67 on November 06, 2007, 02:10:03 AM
Donut!
Title: stagnant
Post by: blkmgc on November 06, 2007, 06:00:37 AM
Back in the day Warbirds had an arena which had 3 sides, no land cap, 2 bases for each side which were about 15 miles apart with a large water area in the middle to fight over. (forget the exact name of the arena..1997-98 ish) . May be the ticket for those who like to launch fight die... lather rinse repeat all day long. As a buff pilot, or just someone who enjoys taking long missions, its depressing to log in and see mini maps in both the LW arenas. Although we generally have the numbers to make our own action in the MW...if theres mot a micro map in there as well.
Title: stagnant
Post by: Banzzai on November 06, 2007, 12:08:28 PM
personally these maps are really starting to really P mee off

we need some of the old large maps back  
with the 90/40/40 setup in the MA's i don't think it will cause the
mass hordes thet everyone used to cry about