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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on November 05, 2007, 01:11:08 PM
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Such as the current #1 ranked fighter pilot. Which BTW is only the 6th best K/H ratio.
Just asking.
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they only live for the vulch or spawncamp .
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Smells kinda gamey in here!
I,m still tryin to figure out how they get over 2000% hit percentage in buffs!!
thats pretty damn accurate!!
Kid must eat alot of carrots!
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Such as the current #1 ranked fighter pilot. Which BTW is only the 6th best K/H ratio.
My guess would be if you stick exclusively to flying base defence where you can get up and be making kills without delay.
Badboy
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
they only live for the vulch or spawncamp .
Vulching probably wouldn't get your average time that low, due to the distance between most bases.
Badboy
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If I had to guess, I'd say vulching exclusively. More than likely vulching a second account exclusively.
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There is absolutely no way the guy could be doing "base defence" exclusively and have a K/D of 40.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
I,m still tryin to figure out how they get over 2000% hit percentage in buffs!!
Damage 20 objects with one bomb. I posted 2000% last tour. I only dropped 2 bombs in bomber scoring mode the entire tour.
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Originally posted by Murdr
Damage 20 objects with one bomb. I posted 2000% last tour. I only dropped 2 bombs in bomber scoring mode the entire tour.
what 20 objects can be destroyed by one bomb?
20 sheep in a tight circle doin the hokey pokey?
You,d have to have a pretty big bomb to destroy 20 objects all at once.
skepticaly yours,
Boner
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Originally posted by Badboy
Vulching probably wouldn't get your average time that low, due to the distance between most bases.
Badboy
I ussually see them guys comming off a cv or in a gv ... or its the ussuall score potato gotta cheat thing
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I think a reasonable 'superb' K/T is about 15-16 kills an hour. Even vulching you aren't going to get too many more than that, unless you vulch every sortie.
It would be possible to get to about 20-30 kills per hour if you had a few good vulch sorties in a row, but the guys flown like 10 sorties.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
what 20 objects can be destroyed by one bomb?
20 sheep in a tight circle doin the hokey pokey?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by 1Boner
You,d have to have a pretty big bomb to destroy 20 objects all at once.
Lancaster's 4000lbs cookie, or the Stuka's SC-1800 "Satan"
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Originally posted by 1Boner
what 20 objects can be destroyed by one bomb?
20 sheep in a tight circle doin the hokey pokey?
You,d have to have a pretty big bomb to destroy 20 objects all at once.
skepticaly yours,
Boner
You're more than welcome to look at my score from last tour.
A well placed 1800kg bomb on a city can damage 20 objects. A well placed 4k bomb will typically damage 18 objects in a city.
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thank you for the enlightenment.
If i ever bomb a city, i'll give it a try.
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Oh come on BE ... you need to ask that question when it comes to either Dextur or AXER ?
These 2 are the biggest afront to the AH scoring system in the history of the game.
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The scoring system got gamed .. since it was created. Attack Sortie base captures?
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i wanna know how someone can spend 50+ hours on a game already :rolleyes:. My eyes would fall out of my head.
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I dont know. But anyone shooting "me" down this tour isnt accomplishing anything. Your only putting me out of my misery.:cry
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Oh come on BE ... you need to ask that question when it comes to either Dextur or AXER ?
These 2 are the biggest afront to the AH scoring system in the history of the game.
At least they're in the right squad now.
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Anybody wanna split a new account with me?
We can take turns shooting down the new account!
Theres nothing in the "rules" that says we can't!
We could be soooooo uber!!
Naaah!!,
Boner
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So basically the guy is vulching a 2nd account?
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Oh come on BE ... you need to ask that question when it comes to either Dextur or AXER ?
Shhh... I have to make it look like an innocent question so I don't get Skuzzified.
Actually, If I was in their country I might try the .goto to get to their field then shadow them everwhere they went to personally witness their greatness.
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Originally posted by leitwolf
The scoring system got gamed .. since it was created. Attack Sortie base captures?
You can get a base capture in attack mode by letting your troops out, then end sortie, and re-up in something in attack mode before the map room destroyed message, atleast thats how I think you can do it.
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Originally posted by Urchin
So basically the guy is vulching a 2nd account?
Guy vulching?
Or guys vulching each other, taking turns on the 3rd account?
Who knows? Pure speculation on my part.
But it sure sounds like a cheap,easy way to have the super duperest, bestest score in the whole wide AH world, doesn't it?
I'm probably wrong, but it sure does seem kinda unusual.
Just Guessing,
Boner
P.S. Has anyone ever taken these guys to the DA seperatly?
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Originally posted by Badboy
My guess would be if you stick exclusively to flying base defence where you can get up and be making kills without delay.
Badboy
Wrong, I've seen this crew work, they only fly in fighter mode to a vuclhfest!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Dextur or AXER ?
These 2 are the biggest afront to the AH scoring system in the history of the game.
I agree, complete wastes! If you ever find them in fighter mode and you're co-alt, they will run at first sight. Lamers extroidinare!:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by trax1
You can get a base capture in attack mode by letting your troops out, then end sortie, and re-up in something in attack mode before the map room destroyed message, atleast thats how I think you can do it.
My point being, that this is "gaming the game" ;)
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Originally posted by trax1
You can get a base capture in attack mode by letting your troops out, then end sortie, and re-up in something in attack mode before the map room destroyed message, atleast thats how I think you can do it.
You can do it that way, but it doesn't help individual rank - attack captures are purged from your score at each day's rank update.
Howver, it stays for squad score & ranks.
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it used to count for individual ranks too.
At least i know some ppl were gunning for those captures.. back in the day when i thought "rank" meant that you're gud at teH game.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Such as the current #1 ranked fighter pilot. Which BTW is only the 6th best K/H ratio.
Just asking.
Vulching a shades account. If you didn't realize, Dexter and Axer "game the game". They both have little actual skill, if you've ever encountered them in a 1v1 situation, you'll know what I mean. They are also "squeakers". If you've ever heard them on vox and your eardrums didn't burst when they talked, you'd swear you were talking to a dolphin.
To them, having their name in lights is proof to them they are #1, whether or not they achieved that rank through legitimate means. It's not about skill with them, they could care less about that as it takes time to aquire, something they lack the patience for. Instead, they want instant gratification and will do anything to achieve it.
I honestly believe, if these little squeakers could get away with it, that they'd use cheat programs. But since they know they wouldn't last for long if they did, they resorted to "legal" cheating by vulching a 2nd account to pad their score. It's sad for sure as they miss out on the most fun aspects of this game and that is learning the ropes.
The final joke will be on them though. In about 5 years they'll be asking me if I want to supersize my order.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The final joke will be on them though. In about 5 years they'll be asking me if I want to supersize my order.
:aok
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Funny thing... 5 days into the tour and between the two they already have over 1030 kills... They bad!!
They should get use to the phrase: "Would you like an apple pie with that?":huh
Besides, Ack-Ack might want that option with his super-sized order!
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The final joke will be on them though. In about 5 years they'll be asking me if I want to supersize my order.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Five years?? What about 10?
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LOL Ack-Ack
:lol
Dexter I'm sorry to say is a total joke. He had me almost in tears laughing the other night. Rook ENY was only around 10 or so and he was literally screaming on ch2, giving a play by play of what the ENY was at. Rooks apparently had a lot of people in the tower not flying and he was livid that these people log off so he could "fly the plane [he] wanted to fly." Hard to pad that score when he doesn't have the crotch rockets to choose from.
:lol
It's a shame he nor Axer will never appear on these boards. Warlockl would be a distant memory if they did.
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Originally posted by Stang
It's a shame he nor Axer will never appear on these boards. Warlockl would be a distant memory if they did.
The PNG would almost be almost instantaneous.
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And LOL one more thing.
Approximately 96 hours have passed so far in the month of November.
So far Axer has flown 54 hours, and Dextur 42. Holy ****.
I'll take a double quarter pounder with cheese, supersized.
;)
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There whole squad games the game. I think they have 4 or 5 squadies ranked within the top 10 and I have never been killed by any of these score potatos. Pathetic gamers!
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I’m not trying to defend these guys at all, I know nothing about them.
It is very possible to get kills in the 20-30 per hour range without cheating though. I used to do get over 20 per hour on occasional tours that leaned heavier on vulching. Not RTBing helps much BTW; your KPH will nearly double.
Back in the CT days I popped into the MA for only a few minutes one night. I launched a Chog in attack mode from a CV, helped de-ack and vulch a base near the CV and got 10 kills in 5 minutes. I then launched in fighter mode and got 8 kills in 8 minutes (landed). Those were my only flights that tour which left me a KPH of 60 per hour in fighter and 114 per hour in attack.
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Not defending them, but it's possible to get a ridiculous kills/hour from some circumstances. A few tours back, I saw a base flashing, upped a C205 or some plane with default 'fighter' mode and found some low level buffs just about on top of my base. I sprayed them, they got taken out by ack, I landed 3 kills.
Took maybe only a few minutes and I had a stupid high kills/hour.
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Originally posted by Urchin
I think a reasonable 'superb' K/T is about 15-16 kills an hour. Even vulching you aren't going to get too many more than that, unless you vulch every sortie.
It would be possible to get to about 20-30 kills per hour if you had a few good vulch sorties in a row, but the guys flown like 10 sorties.
Dang where Shawk when ya need him?:D
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Has VansCrew been in AXER's squad yet?:lol
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Originally posted by eskimo2
"It is very possible to get kills in the 20-30 per hour range without cheating though. I used to do get over 20 per hour on occasional tours that leaned heavier on vulching."
Occasional?
Yes.
Every day?
Every Tour?
No!
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Originally posted by Pawz
There whole squad games the game. I think they have 4 or 5 squadies ranked within the top 10 and I have never been killed by any of these score potatos. Pathetic gamers!
LoL never have I ever played the game for score. So don't put your foot in your mouth so fast.
Some play the game for rank other play for their reasons. Don't pound them for playing the game their way.
The original topic is a good discussion. I looked up my score and my best tour for the past six months i had was 3 kills a minute. I am pretty sure that month i was 100% base defence in attack and no gv kills.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Such as the current #1 ranked fighter pilot. Which BTW is only the 6th best K/H ratio.
Just asking.
There is no possible way to get that number unless u were killing a shade account.
Reason being u have to account for the time going to and from a base.
So if your average is 15 minutes to and from a base, then in reality he had to shoot down an average of 26 planes per 45 minutes.
Base defense would never amount to this high of kill/hour because he would be on the deck low and probly wouldnt last very long.
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Ya know Warlock -- Dont have to account for transit time if you only do CV -->base attacks and safe base defenses.
Only time I've run into them recently was exactly that, a squad horde vulching a base from a carrier just offshore. I'll spare the details, but I saw 3-4 kills inside 3 minutes -- and a definite dearth of ACM ideas when I saddled and tracked the poor fellow.
But, its their $15. And (as happens with others in the AH world) people can delude themselves into thinking that they are better than they really are, based on reasons convincing only to themselves. No skin off my back either way.
But the time logged is truly impressive. Used to be competition for the Pasty Face Award, but that appears to be a distinction no one else can reasonably expect to claim. For crying out loud, SCHOOL'S in session!
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nm
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Originally posted by Pawz
There whole squad games the game. I think they have 4 or 5 squadies ranked within the top 10 and I have never been killed by any of these score potatos. Pathetic gamers!
I fly with that squad when my own squad isn't on and i have never seen anything to support this. I'd be the first one to decry such action.
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
Base defense would never amount to this high of kill/hour because he would be on the deck low and probly wouldnt last very long.
I dunno. My one (yes, exactly one) fighter sortie in tour 92 allowed me to bag 3 airplanes in 6 minutes, 38 seconds. IIRC it was in a 109K4 getting up to about 10K to try to kill two boxes of buffs. Got 2 in one box and a third in the second box before being blown to smithereens (as most of my sorties end).
So, that got me a K/H of 27+ and an obnoxious hit percentage of 42%.
Does that not qualify as a "base defense"?
I have no idea how he is getting his K/H as high as he is, but it seems to me there are a lot of ways to get there without it being something underhanded. There seem to be a lot of accusations and precious little evidence in this thread.
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Originally posted by clerick
I fly with that squad when my own squad isn't on and i have never seen anything to support this. I'd be the first one to decry such action.
Please ... do you think for 1 second that they will pull their shannagins in pubic ? ... so that someone could actually witness/film it and decry such action ... I think not.
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Originally posted by E25280
I dunno. My one (yes, exactly one) fighter sortie in tour 92 allowed me to bag 3 airplanes in 6 minutes, 38 seconds. IIRC it was in a 109K4 getting up to about 10K to try to kill two boxes of buffs. Got 2 in one box and a third in the second box before being blown to smithereens (as most of my sorties end).
So, that got me a K/H of 27+ and an obnoxious hit percentage of 42%.
Does that not qualify as a "base defense"?
I have no idea how he is getting his K/H as high as he is, but it seems to me there are a lot of ways to get there without it being something underhanded. There seem to be a lot of accusations and precious little evidence in this thread.
Yes ... you can explain it with some weird kills in a very short time frame ... but over a 55 hour time frame ... in the MA ... I don't think so.
I have played and fought against the best this game has/had to offer ... Leviathn, Drex, Furball, Stang, Fester, Fariz, AHGOD, Urchin, NathBDP, Mathman, iceMAW, and many more that forgot more about dogfighting/killing than these 2 combined could ever learn in a lifetime of playing this game ... and over 55 hours of their game time, playing naturally ... they could never achieve those types of numbers.
These 2 are a joke ... nothing more ... and maybe a lot less.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Originally posted by eskimo2
"It is very possible to get kills in the 20-30 per hour range without cheating though. I used to do get over 20 per hour on occasional tours that leaned heavier on vulching."
Occasional?
Yes.
Every day?
Every Tour?
No! [/B]
I stopped playing over two years ago and flew mostly in the CT. The CT was much slower paced and harder to find enemy in so I flew in the MA at times as well. I just searched through my last MA tours and found that I ended the following tours with a KPH of over 20 for either fighter or attack: 50, 53, 56, 59 & 60.
I really thrived on fast pace and did a lot of attack from CVs and fleet defense as well. I also would never climb past 10,000 feet; most of my time was under 5,000.
Some keys to high KPH are:
Base defense when not overwhelmed.
Attack and defense from CVs close to bases.
Vulching.
Not RTBing.
Not gaining alt.
Recognizing a fast paced fight.
Considering that there are/were bunches of guys who are/were much better than I, I find it easy to comprehend killing a plane every 2 minutes.
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AXER and DEXTUR are horrible pilots. (edited for fairness: maybe they are just "poor" or "bad" as opposed to horrible)
There is one, and ONLY ONE way for them to get these kinds of #'s.
Not speculation.
Not a "guess".
That is a FACT.
Neither of them have the skill to get numbers any where close to that w/o vulching another account.
I have been in multiple furballs with these two. Neither get that many kills, and they both die easy.
I brought this to SHAWK's attention the other day, and he seemed "ok" with it.
I was very let down by SHAWK's lassie fair attitude towards those two. He seemed perfectly willing to turn a "blind eye" (at least I hope it's blind) towards what those two are doing.
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Originally posted by WMLute
I brought this to SHAWK's attention the other day, and he seemed "ok" with it.
I was very let down by SHAWK's lassie fair attitude towards those two. He seemed perfectly willing to turn a "blind eye" (at least I hope it's blind) towards what those two are doing.
Because he's just as guilty of doing the same thing as these two squeakers.
ack-ack
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Yeah I dont think Axer and his squad have a monopoly on this kind of play or suckage either one.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Please ... do you think for 1 second that they will pull their shannagins in pubic ? ... so that someone could actually witness/film it and decry such action ... I think not.
In this instance i wasn't referring to the allegations against AXER and DEXTUR but was defending the actions i have personally seen of the squad as a whole.
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Wanna know how to get even :D ... tee hee
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
Wanna know how to get even :D ... tee hee
support@hitechcreations.com ?
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Originally posted by WMLute
I brought this to SHAWK's attention the other day, and he seemed "ok" with it.
I was very let down by SHAWK's lassie fair attitude towards those two. He seemed perfectly willing to turn a "blind eye" (at least I hope it's blind) towards what those two are doing.
like I said, they are in the right squad now.
FWIW I flew w/ shawk for a long time and never saw him appear to vulch a second account. I wouldn't expect him to care if others do it though.
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Shawk might be the rank queen, but I know for a fact he never has vulched a second account. I'd go to bat for him any day. Axer and Dextur though... rofl.
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Originally posted by 1Boner
Smells kinda gamey in here!
I,m still tryin to figure out how they get over 2000% hit percentage in buffs!!
thats pretty damn accurate!!
Kid must eat alot of carrots!
The easyest part in the game
Drop a 2000lb (or bigger) egg in a cluster of builidings and you are up there.
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Yeah, I'd say score ho. But i will defend them by saying this,...back when I was in a horrible marriage I played 350 hrs a month. So hrs played has alot of "variables....lmao, now I dont spend 1/3 of that time on here.
thanks HTC, for the out!!!:D
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whats the most lame?
the witch or the witch hunters?
"She turned me into a newt!!"
"A newt??"
"er...well...i got better."
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Originally posted by Nilsen
The easyest part in the game
Drop a 2000lb (or bigger) egg in a cluster of builidings and you are up there.
Yup, I agree. I asked the same question last month as I thought "how could someone hit greater than 100%?" So this month I took a single lanc up to a strat. I dropped the big one and got 9 buildings by my count. I went to another strat droped a couple of the small ones and rtb'd. Now my bomber hit % is 452 and before it was never greater than 95%.
It really works..
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
whats the most lame?
the witch or the witch hunters?
"She turned me into a newt!!"
"A newt??"
"er...well...i got better."
Burn her anyway!
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Quick before the big foot smashes yall!
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
whats the most lame?
the witch or the witch hunters?
It wasn't a witch hunt. It was an honest question. I'd really like to know how this is done.
From the answers I've heard in this thread, other than the accusatory ones which may or may not be true, here's my take;
Base defense: Seems plausible but landing 7 of 9 with 40 K/D (over 8 K/S) means you'de have to do some GREAT, mistake free flying low. The odds of getting picked at some point seem higher than what's being shown.
I will add that I got 3 low Lancs one night and 1 Lanc and 3 B-24's low over our base(s) another night. Both these flights took 5-10 minutes take off to landing but these are rare, not the norm and wouldn't account for 8 K/S.
CV attack/defense: Same as base defense. Odds of getting killed in a furball are too high.
Vulching: This would do it if you didn't have to account for transit time, and with 7 of 9 landed there is definitely transit in both directions.
These seemed the most plausible to me because any attempt to climb adds time.
BTW, FX1... Are you saying you had a camp with 180 K/H (3 kills per minute per your post)? How did you do that?
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Kills per Death + 1 22.00 5
Kills per Sortie 7.33 4
Kills per Hour of Flight 31.68 4
Kills Hit Percentage 12.80 95
Kill Points 4010.35 561
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Originally posted by Adonai
Kills per Death + 1 22.00 5
Kills per Sortie 7.33 4
Kills per Hour of Flight 31.68 4
Kills Hit Percentage 12.80 95
Kill Points 4010.35 561
OK, so share the secret. How do you get a kill every 1.89 minutes?
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Originally posted by Stang
Shawk might be the rank queen, but I know for a fact he never has vulched a second account. I'd go to bat for him any day. Axer and Dextur though... rofl.
I have to agree with Stang about Shawk! He's a standup guy and I had flown with him for quite a few years and against him for years and never would consider that he would game the game. He does know how to use the games strat to his advantage and those that just consider him a B&Z'er, he can and will turnfight. In my experience with Shawk, he doesn't worry much about what others will or will not do but concentrates on what he does. He's really a laid back kinda guy and I respect him.
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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Sorry that was 20 k/h so one kill for every 3 minutes.
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quite simple, Knits tend to enjoy vulching and not caring about alt, so I came over 3 sorties in Tempest, bagged about 7.5 per flight and landed.
It aint hard considering I used up all my ammo under 3 minutes in the engagement
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No secret to maining that either, course flight time will diminish over time, but kills will stay high now I only had time to do 3 flights, I dont fly fighter mode and troll skies for hours looking for 1 kill. Most time im bringing bombs so im in attack mode, only fighter mode when defending base, or on offense.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
OK, so share the secret. How do you get a kill every 1.89 minutes?
You can get the "secret" when you join ~Death By ENY~.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
It wasn't a witch hunt. It was an honest question. I'd really like to know how this is done.
bollocks! you even said yourself " i had to word it in a way to avoid being skuzzyfied" or something.
whatever, i dont really care, and my comments were regarding the 2 page thread not just your first post.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The final joke will be on them though. In about 5 years they'll be asking me if I want to supersize my order.
ack-ack
ROFLMAO
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Originally posted by Adonai
Kills per Death + 1 22.00 5
Kills per Sortie 7.33 4
Kills per Hour of Flight 31.68 4
Kills Hit Percentage 12.80 95
Kill Points 4010.35 561
i can swing the bat for adonai, he's a fighter magnet. Everytime he upps a fighter he kills something, from buffs to fighters, majority being buffs in tour 93 if i can recall... He's a 190A-8 potato as well :lol
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AKAK..
I know we have disagreed on many things in the past..but you make some good funnies..
They sound like dolphins on Vox
Cue.. Flipper Sound track now
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Originally posted by Adonai
quite simple, Knits tend to enjoy vulching and not caring about alt, so I came over 3 sorties in Tempest, bagged about 7.5 per flight and landed.
LMAO! Go sell that to someone who doesn't know better.
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Lets just get rid of scores.SWcore potatos are all gone.Then its all about the reset and nothing else.:rolleyes:
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disagree about axer or dextur not being any good at multi plane engagements. they don't have uber stick and rudder skills and any duel dweeb can take them out in a turn fight easy but they do fly as a team and they have decent SA which in spite of any antics they may or may not be up to the fact remains... where one is the other is also.
they can defeat lonewulf pilots of any skill level by simple 2 vs 1 tactics if they have the initiative in the form of speed or altitude advantage. I think this fact alone makes a lot of the expert duel pilots dislike them.
but thats actual fighting. not to be confused with the score game. the scoring system is a minigame within Aces High. It can be used as a guide for tracking personal proficiency in air combat in a statistical manner or it can be a game unto itself for people who dream of being an accountant when their testicles drop.
using the score system for actual combat proficiency tracking can only be done by the player themselves for their own personal benefit. anyone else looking at someone elses score as a means of gauging their ability will not be able to discern from scores alone if they are good at SA, gunnery, and ACM or if they are good at playing the score game.
only key element of either aspect or usage of the score system is the player finds fun or enjoyment from this aspect of Aces High. but generally newer players gravitate towards the score system mini-game as it is easier to be proficient at having high rank than to be proficient in complex multiplane air combat. the older players simply already did the scorepotato thing and got bored with it and moved on to the realization that the fight is where its at. the bean counting isnt nearly as compelling after playing for years and years.
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Originally posted by Adonai
quite simple, Knits tend to enjoy vulching and not caring about alt, so I came over 3 sorties in Tempest, bagged about 7.5 per flight and landed.
It aint hard considering I used up all my ammo under 3 minutes in the engagement
Yea but he has done it for 50 hours.. Not a sortie or two. That's a very big diffrence.
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The final joke will be on them though. In about 5 years they'll be asking me if I want to supersize my order.
ack-ack [/B][/QUOTE]
:rofl
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Originally posted by USRanger
Has VansCrew been in AXER's squad yet?:lol
:lol :aok Best remark yet!!! AND TRUE!
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Originally posted by SkyRock
I agree, complete wastes! If you ever find them in fighter mode and you're co-alt, they will run at first sight. Lamers extroidinare!:rolleyes:
what is fighter mode?
hehe
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Originally posted by 1Boner
what 20 objects can be destroyed by one bomb?
20 sheep in a tight circle doin the hokey pokey?
You,d have to have a pretty big bomb to destroy 20 objects all at once.
skepticaly yours,
Boner
1 4000lb bomb 1 city big boom boom means nothing and is very boringggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggggggggg
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One of my kids is learning the game and isn't all that bad now . Certainly
has things to improve on , but dying virtual and going chicken after isn't
one of them .
My one criteria is never check score cause it don't mean anything
to anyone and puts limits on where and how he flys .
Most times no one knows who the red plane is or what his score is ,
hopefully yu kill it and move on to the next red plane .
This rule has allowed him to relax and have fun .
Anyone using a shades account is ded meat against any decent
stick in the MA .
Cit says it best
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Cant believe all the Drama seekers in here. The man at the top must always dodge the barrage of stones cast his way. "My own quote". Let me start by saying, Im not trying to win a spelling or grammar contest. Im just going to speak my peace.
I am the account holder of AXER. My 15 year old son spends at least 50% of the time on AXER. We both Like to play and rarely let the other one have more than his share of time. My 14 year old son plays on Dextur 90% of time and from time to time you will catch me or Axjr on Dexturs account.
Anyway.... Like anyone cares. I Started back in the days of AOL airwarrior. 13 years ago. Then started playing Airwarrior , AW2, AW3, Aces High, War Birds and finaly Aces High 2. "AH2 = Airwarrior on Steroids" I just love it.. This game has the feel of the old school online, dogfighting games and is so so much better. I love it. Hats off to everyone involved in creating,updateing and constantly improving gameplay.. Dont care about what all of the critics have to say, this stuff rocks!!!
So anyway, Both my boys were exposed to this game at the age of 4 and 5. I taught them alot through the years and now they are teachng me. They both have more moves than I. But Im craftier, wiser and have much, much better situational awareness than both put together. My boys and I are very competitive by nature, and do more than play this game. Both of them play Basket ball, Soccer, and Wrestle. Axjr plays Football and Dextur went on a 3 year undefeated streak in wrestling. Dextur is the most competitive one of us and just hates to loose.
So anyway, they have played these combat online flight games around 10 years now and beleive me between the 3 of us, have worn out a dozen sticks or so. All 3 of us have the experience and love to win, we love to win the fight, battle, war and the scoreboards. None of us care to win by cheating or hacking or whatever a cheat does. That ruins the competitive nature of the game and would take the fun out of kicking the crud out of all you whiners!! LMAO :) Like I tell my boys, the only people you see complaining and whining are the guys losing the game. We refer to it as loosers limp. Making excuses why I cant win, why the other guy is winning. Not saying any names but AH2 is full of guys that have a bad case of losers limp. Just because you may have losers limp doesnt mean I dont care for you, and just to show all the whiners out there that there is no hard feelings. Im going to give you all a helping hand. Go buy or check out from the Library "I suggest buying it" . The book "Fighter Combat" by Robert L. Shaw . This Book helped me go from being a stick jerking turner into a real pilot with a few moves and a plan. I went from meager to pretty damn good in a short time, after reading this dog fight instruction book.
I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk or get into the drama of these BB's . So thats why all the Drama seekers with losers limp get to hear from their old man.
See you all again in the Skies of AH2 <> The Axeman
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Wow lol I don't know were to start on this one.
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lol bear i do,check your PM's your going to get a kick out of it.
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:rofl :rofl After that lil nice post Axer about how good and polite you guys are and whatnot that sure was one hell of a PM Vanscrew, TY I needed that laugh.:aok
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they were not PM's it was all on channle 200 for everyone to see.
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Van PM me them :D
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Originally posted by melbone50
None of us care to win by cheating or hacking or whatever a cheat does. That ruins the competitive nature of the game and would take the fun out of kicking the crud out of all you whiners!! LMAO :) Like I tell my boys, the only people you see complaining and whining are the guys losing the game. We refer to it as loosers limp. Making excuses why I cant win, why the other guy is winning. Not saying any names but AH2 is full of guys that have a bad case of losers limp.
:rolleyes:
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We’re big – We're big
We're small – We're small
We’re young – We're young
And we're old – We're old
We’re all different people living together with love.
We laugh – We laugh
We play – We play
We learn – We learn
everyday – everyday
We’re all different people living together with love.
Together with love.
And we – we
are –are
a – a
family – family
living – living
Together – together
Together – together
:rofl
"I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk "
.....were u asleep at tv yesterday afternoon??
My vocabulary of english/usa insults improved so much looking at ch 200...:aok
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Ch 200 was pretty interesting last night, about 9:30pm PST.
I was busy playing so I missed alot of it, but what I heard (saw) was fairly entertaining Dextur.
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I swapped rooms and caught the end, i think just flew around watching 200 then landed.
I went and made two tool shed runs and Lute was right, scoreing hi is easy. I dropped 200 spots on a bad night to 93 lol.
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Originally posted by melbone50
we love to win the fight
:rofl Spare us the crock of crap!
Your best response may have been something like this:
"I am proud that my boys spend an incredible amount of time milking the scoring system of AH2. I have taught them that this game is all about the score and that the enjoyment of using air combat manuvers to defeat an enemy plane should be avoided at all times."
:aok
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Dextur so far has flown 52 hours this camp.
Axer has flown an even more insane 65.
Are you kidding me?
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Originally posted by melbone50
.... I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk ....
So how did Axer lose his chat priv's?
Not sure how things are done in your neck of the woods, but if my kid violated a house rule so obviously that administration had to step in, he would have completely lost computer access for a good chunk of time. You know, to emphasize that actions have consequences -- which has to be one of the key principles for success in life.
Instead, you're on here calling their opponents "limp losers", and bragging about their competitiveness and sports activities. They're flying 8 hours a day (in addition to sports, apparently) during the school year, which tells me that either their work is suffering or they are in an unrealistically easy academic program.
In short, it seems to me that you're sending a message a bit different than the one you think you're teaching them.
Just a thought, something to think about, from one dad to another.
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melbone, your kids play this game for 6 to 8 hours per day, every day. It's unfathomable to me that you would allow this. You cannot come on here and tell us about their other activities and be telling the truth. If school take 8 hours, they play this game for 8 hours, they sleep for 8 hours.
They must eat at their computers. There's simply no time in the day for anything else.
Additionally, you have no clue how they behave on 200 or else you have a serious case of denial.
Melbone, your kids spend more time in this game than they do in school... if this doesn't alarm you, you are doing a great disservice to your children.
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PM sent :aok :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by SkyRock
"I am proud that my boys spend an incredible amount of time milking the scoring system of AH2. I have taught them that this game is all about the score and that the enjoyment of using air combat manuvers to defeat an enemy plane should be avoided at all times."
:rofl
:lol
:D
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
PM sent :aok :rofl :rofl
What the hell, I can use a good laugh too. Mind sending it to me as well?
ack-ack
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Otw ack ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
What the hell, I can use a good laugh too. Mind sending it to me as well?
ack-ack
well when you get it, send it this way.
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otw bronk
ok sent times 2
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
like I said, they are in the right squad now.
FWIW I flew w/ shawk for a long time and never saw him appear to vulch a second account. I wouldn't expect him to care if others do it though.
LOL Shawk goes around when anyone gets near number1 and trys to get skuzzy to erase thier scores by complaining they shooting 2nd account. Shawk saw i haD 70 KILLS NO DEATHS ON GUY OUT OF 1110 tod kills. so HE CALLED SKUZZY, and had my scores erased. Shawk first to whine to HTC about others uless its his squad or himself. My kills were on account that wasn't mine or my son's. my sons friend from across street, At time i had no idea what kids ingame name was. Since skuzzy didn't take time to ask me before Eraseing scores or even talking to me is why I will not fly Ace's high. But hey Shawk Needs to be number 1 or his lifeless life would be to much I bet. Thats why he has them in squad so now he can say number 1 squad plus number pilot.
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Originally posted by melbone50
Cant believe all the Drama seekers in here. The man at the top must always dodge the barrage of stones cast his way. "My own quote". Let me start by saying, Im not trying to win a spelling or grammar contest. Im just going to speak my peace.
I am the account holder of AXER. My 15 year old son spends at least 50% of the time on AXER. We both Like to play and rarely let the other one have more than his share of time. My 14 year old son plays on Dextur 90% of time and from time to time you will catch me or Axjr on Dexturs account.
Anyway.... Like anyone cares. I Started back in the days of AOL airwarrior. 13 years ago. Then started playing Airwarrior , AW2, AW3, Aces High, War Birds and finaly Aces High 2. "AH2 = Airwarrior on Steroids" I just love it.. This game has the feel of the old school online, dogfighting games and is so so much better. I love it. Hats off to everyone involved in creating,updateing and constantly improving gameplay.. Dont care about what all of the critics have to say, this stuff rocks!!!
So anyway, Both my boys were exposed to this game at the age of 4 and 5. I taught them alot through the years and now they are teachng me. They both have more moves than I. But Im craftier, wiser and have much, much better situational awareness than both put together. My boys and I are very competitive by nature, and do more than play this game. Both of them play Basket ball, Soccer, and Wrestle. Axjr plays Football and Dextur went on a 3 year undefeated streak in wrestling. Dextur is the most competitive one of us and just hates to loose.
So anyway, they have played these combat online flight games around 10 years now and beleive me between the 3 of us, have worn out a dozen sticks or so. All 3 of us have the experience and love to win, we love to win the fight, battle, war and the scoreboards. None of us care to win by cheating or hacking or whatever a cheat does. That ruins the competitive nature of the game and would take the fun out of kicking the crud out of all you whiners!! LMAO :) Like I tell my boys, the only people you see complaining and whining are the guys losing the game. We refer to it as loosers limp. Making excuses why I cant win, why the other guy is winning. Not saying any names but AH2 is full of guys that have a bad case of losers limp. Just because you may have losers limp doesnt mean I dont care for you, and just to show all the whiners out there that there is no hard feelings. Im going to give you all a helping hand. Go buy or check out from the Library "I suggest buying it" . The book "Fighter Combat" by Robert L. Shaw . This Book helped me go from being a stick jerking turner into a real pilot with a few moves and a plan. I went from meager to pretty damn good in a short time, after reading this dog fight instruction book.
I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk or get into the drama of these BB's . So thats why all the Drama seekers with losers limp get to hear from their old man.
See you all again in the Skies of AH2 <> The Axeman
You tell them Jonnyra...................... ....
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Originally posted by rod367th
You tell them Jonnyra...................... ....
See told ya even clang thinks its johnnyra and jr and hes not even in game! Im telling you its Ra and JR
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Originally posted by Husky01
otw bronk
ok sent times 2
Well after viewing a certain PM.
Melbone maybe you should keep the rugrats off 200 also.
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Originally posted by Husky01
See told ya even clang thinks its johnnyra and jr and hes not even in game! Im telling you its Ra and JR
Was in just before jonnyra changed his name. not hard to see jonnyra ends when axer starts lol same for JR.
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Only thing that doesn't fit is Ra only has 1 kid and there are 3 people total in the axer family that play the game.
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Originally posted by melbone50
Cant believe all the Drama seekers in here. The man at the top must always dodge the barrage of stones cast his way. "My own quote". Let me start by saying, Im not trying to win a spelling or grammar contest. Im just going to speak my peace.
I am the account holder of AXER. My 15 year old son spends at least 50% of the time on AXER. We both Like to play and rarely let the other one have more than his share of time. My 14 year old son plays on Dextur 90% of time and from time to time you will catch me or Axjr on Dexturs account.
Anyway.... Like anyone cares. I Started back in the days of AOL airwarrior. 13 years ago. Then started playing Airwarrior , AW2, AW3, Aces High, War Birds and finaly Aces High 2. "AH2 = Airwarrior on Steroids" I just love it.. This game has the feel of the old school online, dogfighting games and is so so much better. I love it. Hats off to everyone involved in creating,updateing and constantly improving gameplay.. Dont care about what all of the critics have to say, this stuff rocks!!!
So anyway, Both my boys were exposed to this game at the age of 4 and 5. I taught them alot through the years and now they are teachng me. They both have more moves than I. But Im craftier, wiser and have much, much better situational awareness than both put together. My boys and I are very competitive by nature, and do more than play this game. Both of them play Basket ball, Soccer, and Wrestle. Axjr plays Football and Dextur went on a 3 year undefeated streak in wrestling. Dextur is the most competitive one of us and just hates to loose.
So anyway, they have played these combat online flight games around 10 years now and beleive me between the 3 of us, have worn out a dozen sticks or so. All 3 of us have the experience and love to win, we love to win the fight, battle, war and the scoreboards. None of us care to win by cheating or hacking or whatever a cheat does. That ruins the competitive nature of the game and would take the fun out of kicking the crud out of all you whiners!! LMAO :) Like I tell my boys, the only people you see complaining and whining are the guys losing the game. We refer to it as loosers limp. Making excuses why I cant win, why the other guy is winning. Not saying any names but AH2 is full of guys that have a bad case of losers limp. Just because you may have losers limp doesnt mean I dont care for you, and just to show all the whiners out there that there is no hard feelings. Im going to give you all a helping hand. Go buy or check out from the Library "I suggest buying it" . The book "Fighter Combat" by Robert L. Shaw . This Book helped me go from being a stick jerking turner into a real pilot with a few moves and a plan. I went from meager to pretty damn good in a short time, after reading this dog fight instruction book.
I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk or get into the drama of these BB's . So thats why all the Drama seekers with losers limp get to hear from their old man.
See you all again in the Skies of AH2 <> The Axeman
What a hilarious post. This one rivals the "dumbtruck" post. You come on here and actually have the gall to call other's "losers limp" (twice) and "whiners"? Learn some parenting and get a back bone already.
You are the prime example of why after I pass on (34 now), my 6 old son's life is wrecked. You have allowed your pre-pubescent teenagers to play a game for around 7-8 hours a night DURING SCHOOL. I know what I was doing at their ages, talking to chicks. The LAST THING I would have been doing at 10-14 was playing a video game.
I have been cleared by them both, but I often find myself saying "you should be studying and not playing this right now."
To attempt to "lecture" us at your son's "fervor and hatred of losing", you have had a post give the AH Community the OPPOSITE EFFECT. I just hope to God, you haven't sacrificed your kids' education. "laziness in school" comes at an early age. You obviously need some attention that your sons' are getting.
OH yeah, your son's have done a TON of "Trash talking". I wish your kids the best in life, they're obviously going to need it, because you fail to limit their time on here.
See, I know you as JohnnyRa and your son as Johnyjr. I often chuckle at the Trinity map about a year ago. I was the lone defender and perfectly happy. Your son showed up and was trying to run 88's to sink a cv off of A5. I was in a Spit8 landing 6-7 kills hops and minding my own business. Then your squeaker kid comes barking over vox about "how it is your job to keep my buffs clear!" I politely spelled out "STFU squeaker" on range text. He got tired of dieing about 3 hops later and moved on.
Bottom line, cut the charade. You are JohnnyRa. You are the same pansy that dragged 4 cons with you whining over vox, I need help. I was on final in an La7 with kills (don't care how few or how many), no ailerons, flaps, one elevator and an oil leak. You ran right towards me to save your "slow and low"arse. PK1 was there and I lit up Channel 2 with him laughing his arse off, because PK KNEW you were screwed.
Because unfortunately, you are teaching your sons the "Art of being Selfish".
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Originally posted by Husky01
Only thing that doesn't fit is Ra only has 1 kid and there are 3 people total in the axer family that play the game.
Ethan, would you "tell the truth" if you were them? I didn't think so. We have the round peg in the round hole on this one.
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Originally posted by Husky01
otw bronk
ok sent times 2
You mind sendin me a pm of laughs, I have been sick all day.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
You mind sendin me a pm of laughs, I have been sick all day.
Otw :)
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Sheesh . . . just post it and be done already. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by E25280
Sheesh . . . just post it and be done already. :rolleyes:
Then the thread would probably be skuzzified and we don't want that to happen :)
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And it keeps GOING, and GOING, and GOING, and GOING;) some regular energizer bunnies in here.
I know I posted about how its praticly impossible to get a kill per hour that high, and I am pretty sure I am completly right since u guys have multiple accounts, I wonder what that score will be if we look up a couple scores on this account that arnt axer or dextur.
My point is, I really dont care what u do or how u play, u play to what suits u I am not one to tell u how to fly your plane, however do not critisize others for calling u out on whats really going on.
I got nuthing but respect for u axer and same goes to dexture, but everyone in this post is guilty of 200 banter.
Some people fight for score and yes they are sore losers, and I can agree with u on how some people cant keep their mouth shut and disrespect people in the game just because of how they fly.
I am sure your son's are not totally innocent, and neither is anyone else in this thread that has talked degrading about them or to them.
My point is just have fun and enjoy the game. The original post was asking HOW someone could get a kill per hour that high, and alot of people responded with the truth, but others that had a grudge against it chose to say more unfortunetly.
Just have fun, If u dont like them getting massive kills, go find them and kill them;) hunting can be fun with u have a purpose;)
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Some guys just think they need to "win".
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
What a hilarious post. blah blah blah
not surprised to see this self important windbag (masherbrum)
chime in.
his arrogance comes shining through post after post.
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I find the whole thing pathetic.
Who CARES if you are ranked #1 if 1/2 the player base can kill you 1 on 1.
Who's the real "winner" there?
I put that right up there with the 3-4 players trying to take a base I am defending solo eventually capturing it after dying 50 times and never killing me thinking they "won". Same logic.
(rank is simple. learning to fight is HARD. one would think that if y'all are a competitive as we are led to believe, you would focus on what is most challenging in the game, as opposed something glaringly easy)
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Who cares?? I find this entire post stupid.
Someone please take the Msquealing highroad and just play the game.
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Man I missed the 200 chat last night.I usualy have that off because it just gets to be too much at times.Can I get a Pm full O laughs?:aok
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This thread is proof that people do to much ORAL COMBAT and not enuf AIRIAL COMBAT.
I swear I have never seen a thread with more wound up people than in here LOL.
Yes the low score guys make excuses why the high score guys are so high.
the high score guys tell the low score guys they are losers, and the saga continues;)
Its unfortunate the score system dictates how people fight.
I bet u if score went soley on kill to death alone everyone would be flying at 30 thousand feet;)
U will see a whole new type of complaining when CT comes out, when people lose their pilot that they spent so much time building up
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i've heard of this oral combat which you speak warlock, in my experience a swift and less painfull peace treaty can be signed on the agreement that teeth can no longer be used.
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
There is no possible way to get that number unless u were killing a shade account.
Reason being u have to account for the time going to and from a base.
So if your average is 15 minutes to and from a base, then in reality he had to shoot down an average of 26 planes per 45 minutes.
Base defense would never amount to this high of kill/hour because he would be on the deck low and probly wouldnt last very long.
Excellent point! Travel time would make it IMPOSSIBLE to get such skewed numbers without "an edge". I was trying to remember when I've seen Axer outside a base defense/vulch situation... never have. Axer coming up after big groups of hi alt buffs... Never have. I could go on like this all day!:rofl
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OK, just out of curiosity can I see the PM?
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
OK, just out of curiosity can I see the PM?
same
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Ditto
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rank is obsolete in this game...
very few can back up a low rank where it counts....in the air! the rest are only gamers.
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Originally posted by Dastrdly
very few can back up a low rank where it counts....in the air! the rest are only gamers.
Care to test that theory?
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Rank really means nothing in the game for the most part.As it was said before it can be used as a personal line to check your own progress but in reality,we all know the scoreboard doesnt reflect whos good.Everyone knows who the good sticks are,and the dweeb score potatos.
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Any old warbirders remember defts score page's took in account hits kills flying time as well murdr hit the problem on the head he took 1 flight
dropped 2 bombs whole tod yet no penalty for no more flights unless
i miss something in the scoring that percentage held whole tod no flight time involed in scoring
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Care to test that theory?
I'm your huckleberry.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I'm your huckleberry.
I'm game. DA? I'm usually on late evening but I don't really want to fly a Pony.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I'm game. DA? I'm usually on late evening but I don't really want to fly a Pony.
We can fly whatever you want. :)
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
We can fly whatever you want. :)
I'll be in one of the LWA's sometime after 8PM Central (Bish).
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who ever wants me to send it to them let me know pm me ill get back to you.
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PM otw steve Bald and Drdea
sent
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Originally posted by melbone50
Like I tell my boys, the only people you see complaining and whining are the guys losing the game. We refer to it as loosers limp. Making excuses why I cant win, why the other guy is winning...
I dont allow Axjr and Dextur to trash talk or get into the drama of these BB's . So thats why all the Drama seekers with losers limp get to hear from their old man.
From the PM I just saw I guess they got it bad then.
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What HE said.Thats some serious smack talk of the massively rude variety.Jesus...get those kids a grip.:rofl
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Originally posted by soupcan
not surprised to see this self important windbag (masherbrum)
chime in.
his arrogance comes shining through post after post.
Irony is a tough thing. Judge me more, if you think I care, keep trying.
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Originally posted by DrDea
Jesus...get those kids a grip.:rofl
That would be a "losers limp grip".
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
At least they're in the right squad now.
You mean the one that Owns Steve?:aok
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You buncha losers absolutely kill me. You all worry about some kids that can out score you like it's some sort of beratement of your manhood.
#1 It's a game
#2 They are NOT JohnnyRA and JohnnyJr, I've met and talk to RA and Jr on occasion (once this month) and neither of them ever had the skill of Dextur and Axer.
#3 Take Dextur to the DA sometime, he doesn't suck.
I've fought almost everyone worth fighting in DA and MA and I can almost pick out who a pilot is after 2 turns or 2 BnZ attempts (ask Steve)
Here are the facts of the matter. Believe what you like.
Dextur owns Steve
Dextur owns Karaya
Dextur owns AKAK
Dextur owns 90% of the other whiners in this post.
Nuff said:aok
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Originally posted by SHawk
You buncha losers absolutely kill me. You all worry about some kids that can out score you like it's some sort of beratement of your manhood.
#1 It's a game
#2 They are NOT JohnnyRA and JohnnyJr, I've met and talk to RA and Jr on occasion (once this month) and neither of them ever had the skill of Dextur and Axer.
#3 Take Dextur to the DA sometime, he doesn't suck.
I've fought almost everyone worth fighting in DA and MA and I can almost pick out who a pilot is after 2 turns or 2 BnZ attempts (ask Steve)
Here are the facts of the matter. Believe what you like.
Dextur owns Steve
Dextur owns Karaya
Dextur owns AKAK
Dextur owns 90% of the other whiners in this post.
Nuff said:aok
90% of the other whiners in this post.
Keyword
I'd love to see AK-AK take on Dex...
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
90% of the other whiners in this post.
Keyword
I'd love to see AK-AK take on Dex...
Done, AK-AK lost horribly. Want Film?
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Such as the current #1 ranked fighter pilot. Which BTW is only the 6th best K/H ratio.
Just asking.
You can't get a kill that often if you are playing the game straight up. Even a very effective vulcher has to fly to the base and back, then wait for uppers....they'd have to be mighty accomodating uppers......
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Someone could play this game 200 hours a month, and become better at it than many players who play only 20, 30, or 40 hours a month, but that doesn't mean the guy playing 200 hours a month isn't a ****ing retard.
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Originally posted by SHawk
Dextur owns Karaya
Nuff said:aok
Wrong. But you're entitled to your opinion.
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Originally posted by SHawk
#3 Take Dextur to the DA sometime, he doesn't suck.
I never said he sux, dude. He's a scorepotato in a scorepotato's squad and that's pretty much all I said. You've called yourself a scorepotato, that I've personally heard, on more than one occasion. So exactly what are you getting your thong in a twist about, related to what I've typed?
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let me fight dex.
IF they are good as you say they are SHAWK, i'll post it on the BBS and eat crow.
(not sayin' they gota beat me, just give me a good fight)
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All this BB's thread has done is stroked Dexturs ego and given him a big head. Im amazed at all who are concerned about Dexturs well being and score. He just thrives on the attention. Be nice if we could all give it a rest, so that kids head dont pop. Lmao :aok
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Originally posted by SHawk
You mean the one that Owns Steve?:aok
Last 3 tours: Steve 6, Shawk's squad 2.
You were saying?
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Last 3 tours: Steve 6, Shawk's squad 2.
You were saying?
Meaning I can think of at least 6 guys (if not more) in the squad that'll own you in the DA. Anyone can run around in a pony and pick.:aok
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Wrong. But you're entitled to your opinion.
Well, prove me wrong then. Film it and show us your DA skills.
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Originally posted by WMLute
let me fight dex.
IF they are good as you say they are SHAWK, i'll post it on the BBS and eat crow.
(not sayin' they gota beat me, just give me a good fight)
Just ask him Lute, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to fight you.
I'm sure it'll be at least a good fight.
My point is, at least he'll MAN UP unlike most of the Poster Posers in this thread, and he's only 13 years old.:)
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Originally posted by SHawk
Meaning I can think of at least 6 guys (if not more) in the squad that'll own you in the DA. Anyone can run around in a pony and pick.:aok
Riiiiiight. If they are like you, they're never seen outside of a nice group.
You can think? I doubt it. Don't you have a base to vulch with the horde? Get out of here. :aok
You're like anyone else that runs their mouth then gets waxed: "DA DA DA NOW! :mad: "
You claimed your squad "owns me". Almost every fight happens in the MA.
Steve 6, Blowhard's squad 2.
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Originally posted by SHawk
Anyone can run around in a pony and pick.:aok
:lol :rofl :aok
Over half of your kills every tour are in perk planes, picker boy. If I were you, hordetard, I'd not try to bag on what others fly. OK gangsissy? Ya.
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I repeat, at least he'll MAN UP unlike most of the Poster Posers in this thread.
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Originally posted by SHawk
I repeat, at least he'll MAN UP unlike most of the Poster Posers in this thread.
This doesn't apply to me, dude. I never questioned his skills one way or the other. Others did and you lumped me in there for some reason.
The only thing I scoffed at were his father's claim that they don't talk smack on 200 when in fact they are sometimes quite vulgar on the channel.
There's screenies out there if you'd like to see them.
No, I'm not being critical of their 200 behavior so you don't need to defend them or insult me.
Again, my point was just how clueless the father is of their behavior... and again there's screenies to prove it... oh ya and the fact that one is/was chat revoked.
You'd agree with me Shawk, as far as the points I made, if you weren't so busy looking for an argument. I was critical of the dad for letting his teenage sons spend around 8 hours a day, EVERY day, playing this game... during school year. I find it hard to believe you would allow that. IMHO, no dad who had had the kid's best interest in mind would, but I suppose it makes a fine babysitter for the lazy and disinterested.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
This doesn't apply to me, dude. I never questioned his skills one way or the other. Others did and you lumped me in there for some reason.
Same here. All I did was point out the lack of parenting and control of PC usage to accumulate those hours in this game.
SHawk then hops on my ankle and wants me to DA Dextur/Axer? :confused:
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This thread disgusts me. It starts off a guy wants to know how to get a good fighter pilot ranking and then turns into a big wad of blah blah blah crap. Most of you sound like a bunch of women sitting high on your sanctimonious perches, more holy than god.
You clearly state the top ranked are kids while you make them out to be evil and attach their character. So, if they are kids, what do your really expect from kids other than being just kids? What bad things did you do as a child? Ever cheat on a test in school? I can name a quite a few things I did wrong at that age. We learn as we grow older.
So what have any of you learned in your old age? Patience and understanding? I don't think so. Maybe a genuine understanding to actually care for the children you belittle? I don't think so. You just want to hate them. This is worse than what you all are complaining about. Shame shame.
So, being as you all are grown ups, saying the things you say and the selfish motives behind you comments, shows me you are less than the children you belittle, not to mention belittling the father that jumps in here trying to defend his children. Wouldn't you do the same?
This is petty stuff you all are complaining about, but you gripe down deep to the bone like its a matter of law. Get a life. Honer yourself, then the rest won't matter. This is a game. Sheeesh, What a bunch of idiots. Myself included, mind you. I am ashamed to even be reading this thread or even posting on it. Grow up children. Then you can pick on the little ones.
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Originally posted by Clutz
This thread disgusts me. It starts off a guy wants to know how to get a good fighter pilot ranking and then turns into a big wad of blah blah blah crap. Most of you sound like a bunch of women sitting high on your sanctimonious perches, more holy than god.
You clearly state the top ranked are kids while you make them out to be evil and attach their character. So, if they are kids, what do your really expect from kids other than being just kids? What bad things did you do as a child? Ever cheat on a test in school? I can name a quite a few things I did wrong at that age. We learn as we grow older.
So what have any of you learned in your old age? Patience and understanding? I don't think so. Maybe a genuine understanding to actually care for the children you belittle? I don't think so. You just want to hate them. This is worse than what you all are complaining about. Shame shame.
So, being as you all are grown ups, saying the things you say and the selfish motives behind you comments, shows me you are less than the children you belittle, not to mention belittling the father that jumps in here trying to defend his children. Wouldn't you do the same?
This is petty stuff you all are complaining about, but you gripe down deep to the bone like its a matter of law. Get a life. Honer yourself, then the rest won't matter. This is a game. Sheeesh, What a bunch of idiots. Myself included, mind you. I am ashamed to even be reading this thread or even posting on it. Grow up children. Then you can pick on the little ones.
Sorry, school should be more of a priority than a Combat Sim.
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:rofl :rofl omfg ow my sides..!
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Originally posted by Clutz
Blah Blah Blah BLah!!!!!
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Originally posted by Clutz
This thread disgusts me. It starts off a guy wants to know how to get a good fighter pilot ranking and then turns into a big wad of blah blah blah crap.
I disagree on how the thread started. BaldEgl has been around for years. The only thing he wanted to know was others opinion on the issue he pointed the spotlight at. As far at the rest, I'll neither join the dogpile or critisize the dogpilers.
However, I will say if someone wishes to do things to draw attention to themselves in AH...they should be prepared to take the bad attention with the good, regardless of age.
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Originally posted by Clutz
This thread disgusts me. It starts off a guy wants to know how to get a good fighter pilot ranking and then turns into a big wad of blah blah blah crap. Most of you sound like a bunch of women sitting high on your sanctimonious perches, more holy than god. blah blha blah
Pot, meet kettle.
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Originally posted by Murdr
I disagree on how the thread started. BaldEgl has been around for years. The only thing he wanted to know was others opinion on the issue he pointed the spotlight at. As far at the rest, I'll neither join the dogpile or critisize the dogpilers.
However, I will say if someone wishes to do things to draw attention to themselves in AH...they should be prepared to take the bad attention with the good, regardless of age.
You are a wise man murder. I agree with all you say. I just jumped in here because I often hear adults pick on little kids playing this game and it just burns me. I would gladly step aside to see a kid have some fun. That is all.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
This doesn't apply to me, dude. I never questioned his skills one way or the other. Others did and you lumped me in there for some reason.
The only thing I scoffed at were his father's claim that they don't talk smack on 200 when in fact they are sometimes quite vulgar on the channel.
There's screenies out there if you'd like to see them.
No, I'm not being critical of their 200 behavior so you don't need to defend them or insult me.
Again, my point was just how clueless the father is of their behavior... and again there's screenies to prove it... oh ya and the fact that one is/was chat revoked.
You'd agree with me Shawk, as far as the points I made, if you weren't so busy looking for an argument. I was critical of the dad for letting his teenage sons spend around 8 hours a day, EVERY day, playing this game... during school year. I find it hard to believe you would allow that. IMHO, no dad who had had the kid's best interest in mind would, but I suppose it makes a fine babysitter for the lazy and disinterested.
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Originally posted by WMLute:
I brought this to SHAWK's attention the other day, and he seemed "ok" with it.
I was very let down by SHAWK's lassie fair attitude towards those two. He seemed perfectly willing to turn a "blind eye" (at least I hope it's blind) towards what those two are doing.
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Reply by Steve:
like I said, they are in the right squad now.
FWIW I flew w/ shawk for a long time and never saw him appear to vulch a second account. I wouldn't expect him to care if others do it though.
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Steve,
Now you re-read your reply to WMlute's implications of vulching a shade to achieve his incredible score. Now if thats not considered a direct attack on my squads integrity, I don't know what is. Did I mis-read this or does this not say I'd wouldn't care if peeps in my squad cheated to achieve rank?
I've caught 1 guy in 5 yrs doin this and I dumped his butt like a Hot Potato.
So don't make smart*** comments and then try to say "thats not what I meant". It doesn't work with me.
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Originally posted by SHawk
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Did I mis-read this ?
Yep.
You're spoiling for an argument and there's plenty of people in this thread you could go after who directly insulted the play of the kids(and would no doubt happily argue with you) yet you are on my jock.
I defended your integrity, saying it never so much as appeared you had a shade and for this I get your internet tough guy lip. If we have a problem other than your misplaced rage in this thread, spill it because you're off base here.
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Originally posted by Clutz
You are a wise man murder. I agree with all you say. I just jumped in here because I often hear adults pick on little kids playing this game and it just burns me. I would gladly step aside to see a kid have some fun. That is all.
This adult isn't "picking on kids", he's picking on the "supposed adult who is the kids' parent". I'm sorry if this went above your head, like it did others.
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I flew near these kids the other night, seemed quite courteous on range/ by their actions, perhaps Pop talked to em
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Originally posted by bj229r
I flew near these kids the other night, seemed quite courteous on range/ by their actions, perhaps Pop talked to em
Actually, I believe the "Trash talker" among the two kids and the father, is the father. I've heard both kids on range and was pleased and have NEVER had a problem with them. They clear me, I clear them.
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I find it interesting that both the boys father, who supposedly taught them everything they know, and their squad leader, who presumably flys with these boys on a regular basis, have both posted numerous times in this thread but rather than answering the initial question, they have deflected the conversation to create a drama thread.
Since the boys aren't allowed to participate in the BBs (so I have to wonder how this is feeding Dexter's ego) to answer for themselves, then you are the two closest to them and can end this thread quickly with the answer as to how these incerdible numbers are achived.
Defelecting the conversation simply tells me that the answer is embarrasing to you.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Defelecting the conversation simply tells me that the answer is embarrasing to you.
Cha-Ching !!
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Cha-Ching !!
Cash? :confused:
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I find it interesting that both the boys father, who supposedly taught them everything they know, and their squad leader, who presumably flys with these boys on a regular basis, have both posted numerous times in this thread but rather than answering the initial question, they have deflected the conversation to create a drama thread.
LOL...This thread was turned into a DRAMA Thread Long before SHawk and the kids Dad posted anything. Amazes me how most here profess they don't care about score and stats, yet go on for ever slamming some kids about theres. This stupid thread should have been locked long ago IMO. But it is fun to watch the adults (so called) get all worked up. :D
This Thread gets the GOLD Doo Award for waste of bandwidth.
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Originally posted by SFCHONDO
LOL...This thread was turned into a DRAMA Thread Long before SHawk and the kids Dad posted anything. Amazes me how most here profess they don't care about score and stats, yet go on for ever slamming some kids about theres. This stupid thread should have been locked long ago IMO. But it is fun to watch the adults (so called) get all worked up. :D
This Thread gets the GOLD Doo Award for waste of bandwidth.
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Ummm, I may be out of line here,....but....ummm....Hondo....is your avatar seeing anyone? she's looking at me....I think she digs me man. This is getting scary.
Don
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If you right-click her, she can be yours forever, yanksfan.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Since the boys aren't allowed to participate in the BBs (so I have to wonder how this is feeding Dexter's ego) to answer for themselves, then you are the two closest to them and can end this thread quickly with the answer as to how these incerdible numbers are achived.
Defelecting the conversation simply tells me that the answer is embarrasing to you.
The answer is simple, you just can't fathom that anyone is capable of doing it legit without vulching a shade.
He simply upped from a carrier right off shore of a base several times and proceded to kill and vulch multiple cons without dying. And then promptly landing, rinsing and repeating. I think he did die once if I'm not mistaken. Now surely you've seen the flurry of noobs that will flock to attempt to kill a CV so close. It's really not hard to get a kill every 2.25 minutes in the right fight. I once killed 182 straight in a d9 without dying, and landed every sortie. And I didn't cheat to do it. I simply got lucky, at least 6 times I landed as a torn up glider. What i'm saying here is, It can be done. And done Legit.
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SHawk, have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
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wow! these purse fights are better than collision threads!:lol
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
wow! these purse fights are better than collision threads!:lol
Nah, if we want the Golden Doo Doo thread to reach the heights of collsions, we'd need to have bronk post screenies -- and we're still waiting for Sudz to post a "curls into fetal postion"
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Originally posted by Urchin
SHawk, have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
"The simplest explanation is usually the best."
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Originally posted by Urchin
SHawk, have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
Yes, and I believe I posted it above.
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Originally posted by SHawk
The answer is simple, you just can't fathom that anyone is capable of doing it legit without vulching a shade.
He simply upped from a carrier right off shore of a base several times and proceded to kill and vulch multiple cons without dying. And then promptly landing, rinsing and repeating. I think he did die once if I'm not mistaken. Now surely you've seen the flurry of noobs that will flock to attempt to kill a CV so close. It's really not hard to get a kill every 2.25 minutes in the right fight. I once killed 182 straight in a d9 without dying, and landed every sortie. And I didn't cheat to do it. I simply got lucky, at least 6 times I landed as a torn up glider. What i'm saying here is, It can be done. And done Legit.
Yea maybe it can happen over a short time, but it would likely be pretty hard to do it for 50+ hours. I don't vulch very often however I've done it from time to time. Just about anytime I've ever vulched, it's a rough competition between all the other vulchers trying to get kills.
Not to mention the vulch always stops as people know they can't take off after a few tries. Much less issues with ack and Flacks.. Your son must have amazing luck to be able to vulch so often. Much less doing it from CV's all the time.
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Originally posted by SHawk
What i'm saying here is, It can be done. And done Legit.
Your are more than likey right ... but in the case of these two ... hardly.
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Slapshot knows a thing or two about scorewhoring.
:D
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Originally posted by Urchin
SHawk, have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
The simplest answer is that it is a natural result of the type of game they play. The more complex answer is that there is some kind of nefarious conspiracy to raise their rank. The burden of proof is on those making the accusation.
Getting back to what I said earlier . . . Originally posted by E25280
There seem to be a lot of accusations and precious little evidence in this thread.
I see a lot of people saying "Nu-uh, no way, must be cheating" and yet no one seems to have any hard evidence. If you've got it, post it. If you don't, then please drop it, because you are making yourselves look like a bunch of whiners.
My unsolicited $0.02.
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The simplest answer is that it is a natural result of the type of game they play. The more complex answer is that there is some kind of nefarious conspiracy to raise their rank.
:rolleyes:
You really want us to believe that it's statistically more likely that:
a) 1200 or more players just happened to be in a position to be killed by the same player in only the first 5 days of a TOD, at a rate of roughly 2 or so in less than the amount of time that it takes to take a pee and get a beverage from the fridge, in a steady stream for over an average of more than 10 hours a day each day, with only 1 in 40 of the helpless victims able to turn the tables and get a kill on their attacker instead?
-- versus --
b) Someone's manipulating the numbers?
I really couldn't care whether they are or aren't personally - I just want to know whether there is still open seats on the wagon and what the payolla is.
I seriously doubt anyone could legitimately sustain that kind of an average at a Chuckie Cheese against the Whack-a-mole machine.
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No, the simplest answer is that the guy is vulching a second account.
The more outlandish answer is that a chain of unlikely events come together for 9 sorties so that he ends up with the kind of stats he has.
I certainly don't care one way or another, folks have been doing that sort of thing since the scoring system was made. HTC certainly isn't going to make a fuss about it, $30 is better than $15 by anyone's accounting.
When you get right down to it, rank in the game doesn't count for anything.
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Actually, in a stupid, bassackwards sort of way you kind of have both admire (at least conceptually) and pity them. Admiration for the tenacity and dedication required to continue to work away at what had to have been absolute sheer mindless drudgery after the first hour or two, and then keep at it for over 10 hours a day (assuming it's the same person doing it) for a good solid work-week.
Pity that they don't have something more meaningful to waste that much time on, and that all that energy is being put towards something so utterly pointless to begin with.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Slapshot knows a thing or two about scorewhoring.
:D
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Originally posted by Urchin
No, the simplest answer is that the guy is vulching a second account.
The more outlandish answer is that a chain of unlikely events come together for 9 sorties so that he ends up with the kind of stats he has.
I certainly don't care one way or another, folks have been doing that sort of thing since the scoring system was made. HTC certainly isn't going to make a fuss about it, $30 is better than $15 by anyone's accounting.
When you get right down to it, rank in the game doesn't count for anything.
:aok
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This thread is reminding me of that early sequence in Monty Python's Holy Grail....
As in, it's "not dead" even though many sincerely wish it were!! And, we're all hoping someone will be so good as to give it a good crack on the head so we can dump it on the cart with the rest of the stanky material. (Cause otherwise, it may still be here come "next thursday" when the cart makes its next rounds)
Skuzzy? Time for your best Eric Idle impersonation? Please?
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It's this type of behavior that makes the ranking laughable, and I think that's why people detest this sort of gaming the game. Could be completely wrong, but I can't imagine why else people who themselves don't bother trying to pad their ranks would have any sort of interest in, or dislike of, this kind of thing.
This is one of few games where there's not some overall comparison or scoring (meaningful, anyway), and I suspect many would like to have such a system. Every time someone goes out of their way to influence the rankings, by hook or by crook, it always receives a fair amount of attention, much of which is negative.
I wonder how much of this would continue if HT quit putting them at the top of their website. I never pay much attention to the website itself anymore (I pretty much only go there if there's an announcement on the forum), but were the dueling ladder winners ever rewarded? Top squadrons? Most helpful trainers? Skinners? The guys who created soundpacks? Filmmakers? Special Events results? People with the most accounts?
[eric idle]I've got to get over to Robinson's; they've lost nine today.[/eric idle]
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If I havn't already, I'm getting IN on this thread
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
It's this type of behavior that makes the ranking laughable, and I think that's why people detest this sort of gaming the game. Could be completely wrong, but I can't imagine why else people who themselves don't bother trying to pad their ranks would have any sort of interest in, or dislike of, this kind of thing.
This is one of few games where there's not some overall comparison or scoring (meaningful, anyway), and I suspect many would like to have such a system. Every time someone goes out of their way to influence the rankings, by hook or by crook, it always receives a fair amount of attention, much of which is negative.
I wonder how much of this would continue if HT quit putting them at the top of their website. I never pay much attention to the website itself anymore (I pretty much only go there if there's an announcement on the forum), but were the dueling ladder winners ever rewarded? Top squadrons? Most helpful trainers? Skinners? The guys who created soundpacks? Filmmakers? Special Events results? People with the most accounts?
[eric idle]I've got to get over to Robinson's; they've lost nine today.[/eric idle]
Overall I think the scoring system hurts overall game play. Too many tards that worry more about their score vs the actual fight. Personally I wish they would just do away with it, it's created too many sissys in the air.
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Try making one of the LW arenas a non scoring arena.
See how many guys show up there.
If the majority tends to fly there, maybe something will change.
But I sincerely doubt that many guys would show up there.
Keeping an eye on your score isn't a bad thing.
But gaming the scoring system or playing timidly because of it, kind of defeats the whole purpose of scoring.
Just ask Barry Bonds**
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OOOoh, I wanna get in on the PM goodness everyone's talking about!
Someone send me the files, please.
-Llama
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This is like it was when I use to play Halo 2 on xbox live. Scores ultimately corrupt the mass majority of people, and also cause them to not have as good of a time as they could have had.
I say still have scores, but make them only visible to the person they belong to. I know that without scores, I would have a much better time. I try not to be a score potato, but it just gets the better of me sometimes, and I don't enjoy myself as much as I would because I end up worrying about my k/d. Stupid I know, but I can't help it.
donkey
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I both disagree and agree with what everyone has said. There are some good points made, and some not so good points made. I just want to thank everyone for hleping me make a clear cut decision abou this issue. :aok
What were we talking about again?:noid
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
If I havn't already, I'm getting IN on this thread
Shocking, you've punted and locked other threads.
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Yeah, I have, but everyone does it. (Prepares the ice). I'm sure everyone gets skuzzified atleast once. (Gets more ice for the burns that are coming). I'm just stupid some times. Sorry for those. Can we try to get along Karaya?
Regards,
Subway
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
Can we try to get along Karaya?
Regards,
Subway
When haven't we? I don't understand why everyone chooses to think that I am actually upset. Life is too short.
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Originally posted by SHawk
The answer is simple, you just can't fathom that anyone is capable of doing it legit without vulching a shade.
He simply upped from a carrier right off shore of a base several times
for 50 straight hours of game play? Do you believe this yourself shawk?
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I don't understand why everyone chooses to think that I am actually upset. Life is too short.
I miss your old Avatar. Reminded me of the continuation of life and a time when music was good. Is there any way that you could put the Dark Side of the Moon record spinning in your new avatar.:cool:
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Okay, I'm not the greatest AH player in the world, but I just checked my kill stats, and somehow I was killed by a parachute. How does this work? Suffocation maybe?? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
I miss your old Avatar. Reminded me of the continuation of life and a time when music was good. Is there any way that you could put the Dark Side of the Moon record spinning in your new avatar.:cool:
Sure, give me a couple of days to find it. :aok
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Originally posted by redneb
Okay, I'm not the greatest AH player in the world, but I just checked my kill stats, and somehow I was killed by a parachute. How does this work? Suffocation maybe?? :rolleyes:
Pproxy kill most likely. The guy was in his chute when you went down, it happens some times for what ever reason.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
for 50 straight hours of game play? Do you believe this yourself shawk?
Steve, the thread was concerning his fighter rank. 80 kills in like 3 hrs or so.
Not the entire 50 hours.
I remember when Ron (Nuke) had something like a 252 kills per hour in GV's. He saw some 1k lancs comin in rolled out an osty whacked all 3 and ended. All in like 30-60 secs. for his 1st GV run of the new camp. Do the Math.
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Originally posted by SHawk
Steve, the thread was concerning his fighter rank. 80 kills in like 3 hrs or so.
Not the entire 50 hours.
That's what I initially thought... I either read or mis-read that he did it for 50 hours.
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Originally posted by SHawk
Steve, the thread was concerning his fighter rank. 80 kills in like 3 hrs or so.
Not the entire 50 hours.
I remember when Ron (Nuke) had something like a 252 kills per hour in GV's. He saw some 1k lancs comin in rolled out an osty whacked all 3 and ended. All in like 30-60 secs. for his 1st GV run of the new camp. Do the Math.
And then he kept right on doing that for 9 more sorties..... right?
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For what it's worth, I may have been there at one of the sorties in question.
Early this tour I spotted a swarm of red coming on a friendly base. I went to next base over and upped...ummmm...a pony or a Hog, don't remember. When i got there, found a crowd of cons coming off a very nearby CV. There were several C-Hogs doing a full length dash on the entire runway, then zooming straight up and over the top in a half loop with a roll on the downstroke (Is that a half cuban 8?) so they could do it all over again.
I burned some E, then chose a target and merged to drop behind a C-Hog. He was oblivious to me, which was fortunate because in typical "me" fashion I mistimed the shot and had to go up over the top myself, in a wider circle since I was faster. My target was still unaware, as his buddies must have been since he made no effort to avoid me as I finally got a good saddle on the straight runway run.
Again, in typical "me" fashion I took my shot and pinged him well, but not well enough to tear a wing off. He began random evasives, increasing our energy differences and making the crossing shots tough enough that I could only get a ping or two. His main goal was evidently not reversing the situation, but drawing me towards his newly upping friendlies and the jsut offshore carrier ack.
As I got close enough that the ack began to target me, i broke off...but my options were limited by the crowd of red dots I'd attracted and by the energy I'd burned off trying (in my inefficient manner) to finish the wounded bird. At THIS point, the C-Hog boldly reversed out of the ack and accurately judged the line that would let him, rather than his rescuers, finish me off. And, as you've guessed, it was AXER.
And the point of this rambling story? Well, I could see him getting a lot of kills in that position. There were newbs galore upping, the attackers were smart enough to work together to give the defenders the feeling that they just might be able to get out. I do have to say that the pilot I attacked had even worse SA than me (that's saying something), didn't use any reversal techniques at all, came mighty close to simple stick stirring evasives, and tried to hide both in a crowd and in ack. Once I put myself into disadvantage, he skilled enough to get the kill faster than the rest of the horde.
Regardless of style differences, though, I have to say that I could honestly see him racking up some impressive numbers in a short time with that setup, and with some enough good sticks to bail him out of trouble. I don't think second accounts would be needed in the situation I saw.
Be that as it may, who cares?