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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: 68ROX on November 05, 2007, 06:49:59 PM
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What a TRIP back in time!
Tonight, I installed the old Air Warrior III CD onto my new computer.
Played a few missions.
WOW.
It is REALLY a great way to appreciate all the work the HTC staff has done to bring our gaming experience to as REALISTIC as they have.
LIGHT YEARS over the graphics of AH.
Dale & the TEAM...well done, folks <>.
68ROX
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Originally posted by 68ROX
What a TRIP back in time!
Tonight, I installed the old Air Warrior III CD onto my new computer.
Played a few missions.
WOW.
It is REALLY a great way to appreciate all the work the HTC staff has done to bring our gaming experience to as REALISTIC as they have.
LIGHT YEARS over the graphics of AH.
Dale & the TEAM...well done, folks <>.
LOL wow their was a CD? I always just downloaded it off the net haha, and single player missions? I guess i missed out on that
68ROX
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i loved the mission where it was you and your wingie vs a bazillion zekes !
If they are out of business cant that be freely downloaded say if a kind soul would post it somewhere as a rar file?
how do you get it to run on xp?
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I miss the cutting edge graphics;
(http://webpages.charter.net/davegun/Pics/screen1.jpg)
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68ROX:
Can you make an ISO of that bad boy? PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAASE?
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
how do you get it to run on xp?
hmm...prob by clicking run in win98 or win95 compatibility mode perhaps?
is it safe to ask for an ISO or a RAR file of a game, even though another company owns the rights to it, dare I say the name of that awful company.......
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The BoB campaign is the best of the lot.
ack-ack
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A fews years ago I reloaded AW3. Its funny how my memory made it prettier than it was when I replayed it.
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Originally posted by GunnerCAF
I miss the cutting edge graphics;
(http://webpages.charter.net/davegun/Pics/screen1.jpg)
That's all you need for graphics. It was the mandatory minimum 5-second burst from the guns that sucked!
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
hmm...prob by clicking run in win98 or win95 compatibility mode perhaps?
is it safe to ask for an ISO or a RAR file of a game, even though another company owns the rights to it, dare I say the name of that awful company.......
TC has been around since christ was a kid,lol.
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I still say Aces of the Pacific is STILL the best air-combat sim EVAR.
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Originally posted by GFShill
That's all you need for graphics. It was the mandatory minimum 5-second burst from the guns that sucked!
You should have flown something other than that Oscar then. :lol
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We've just been having this discussion in bigweek. I think a lot of people look back on AW with rose-tinted glasses. There is no doubt that AH is vastly superior in every respect.
But: the people who played were just as dedicated, just as enthusiastic, whined just as much, got accused of cheating at least as often, made just as much fuss, spent just as much time organising events, training dweebs, becoming addicted, and took it just as seriously. Most significantly, every generation of AWers lamented the sorry state of the community as compared to a year or too previously and wondered allowed about how all the 'old timers' had been replaced by the screaming dweebs.
Those of us who played AW are extremely lucky AH came along.
Trip
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SAX agreed 125%!!
THE BEST.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
hmm...prob by clicking run in win98 or win95 compatibility mode perhaps?
is it safe to ask for an ISO or a RAR file of a game, even though another company owns the rights to it, dare I say the name of that awful company.......
Well, since it's impossible to BUY it and there's no active development on it, I'd say yes.
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As the person who did 95% of the missions / campaigns in AWII and AWIII thanks for the compliments!
I liked the VF-10 campaign, the "save the US" mission, the shoot down of Yammamoto, and of course the VF-17 campaign best myself. Oh and of course the 4th FG one.
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Tell me how to do it....
I wouldn't mind if no laws were broken.
68ROX
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ROX,
If you have Easy CD Creator or Nero Burning Rom there are options to rip the CD to an ISO, BIN or CUE file, all of these are CD image formats.
If you don't have either of these PM me.
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If you can't remember it.... http://www.fw190.org/airwarrior.htm
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AH is better in so many ways........
But, sometimes I still miss Air Warrior.:(
Cavalry
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Originally posted by Saxman
I still say Aces of the Pacific is STILL the best air-combat sim EVAR.
Don't forget Aces Over Europe. I found a website that had them for download, never did get them running though.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
hmm...prob by clicking run in win98 or win95 compatibility mode perhaps?
is it safe to ask for an ISO or a RAR file of a game, even though another company owns the rights to it, dare I say the name of that awful company.......
I run old Airwarrior for DOS using DOSBOX - works great!
Shamroc
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Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
There were a few retail box sets as well - I still have one in the original box (v 1.0 for DOS) :aok
Shamroc
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An actual straight burn worked fine.
I cannot find an option on my basic Nero about turning it into a .rar file.
I'd love to do that, and then host it as a downloadable file on my webspace off my website.
Let me know where in basic Nereo to transform it to a .rar file.
Thanks!
68ROX
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Originally posted by 68ROX
An actual straight burn worked fine.
I cannot find an option on my basic Nero about turning it into a .rar file.
I'd love to do that, and then host it as a downloadable file on my webspace off my website.
Let me know where in basic Nereo to transform it to a .rar file.
Thanks!
68ROX
.rar is just a form of compressing the file, like .zip.
.zip would probably work just as well.
Create the .iso and save it to your HD, then zip the .iso file.
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AW was better outside of the game than inside. The community was 10x what this community is, not only because it was smaller, but because people actually took the time out to learn, teach, and make friends. We have that here in AH, but no where near like in AW. It was nothing to sit in the OC with 10-15 people and just BS the night away, and sometimes that was more fun that flying. I do salute those are have tried and are trying to bring that to AH.
Now the game itself.. definitely AH over AW. Graphics, plane selection, flight model. However AW didn't have HO'n dweebs (because of the infamous "hit bubble", rams, and AW did have a LOT better fights for the most part :)
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
AW was better outside of the game than inside. The community was 10x what this community is, not only because it was smaller, but because people actually took the time out to learn, teach, and make friends. We have that here in AH, but no where near like in AW. It was nothing to sit in the OC with 10-15 people and just BS the night away, and sometimes that was more fun that flying. I do salute those are have tried and are trying to bring that to AH.
Now the game itself.. definitely AH over AW. Graphics, plane selection, flight model. However AW didn't have HO'n dweebs (because of the infamous "hit bubble", rams, and AW did have a LOT better fights for the most part :)
You are absolutely right there PK1! I still remember our first engagements in AW in my 109. You were inquisitive and a quick learner and became a great pilot. I do miss AW because the interaction and mutual respect was far greater than here. I guess it's because a new generation doesn't care about respect as our generation does.
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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Our fights in AW were a lot of fun Doc, can never forget those. It's funny how you remember things from a POS game that was so long ago lol.
The learning curve wasnt as steep in AW because of the RR, so it kept people attention a lot more. Especially since it didn't take a super fast computer to run it.
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
Our fights in AW were a lot of fun Doc, can never forget those. It's funny how you remember things from a POS game that was so long ago lol.
The learning curve wasnt as steep in AW because of the RR, so it kept people attention a lot more. Especially since it didn't take a super fast computer to run it.
are you trying to tell me my 486 25 mhz was not fast? I paid like 2700.00 for that thing, I could of swore I was smokin fast!!!
it blew my 286 or my 8088 out of the water it was so fast, and when I went from 900 baud to 1200 then 2400, I was chithot smokin :aok
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lol Bet you were cookin in 3D :)
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
are you trying to tell me my 486 25 mhz was not fast? I paid like 2700.00 for that thing, I could of swore I was smokin fast!!!
it blew my 286 or my 8088 out of the water it was so fast, and when I went from 900 baud to 1200 then 2400, I was chithot smokin :aok
The good news is that I don't feel so old anymore. ;)
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
Our fights in AW were a lot of fun Doc, can never forget those. It's funny how you remember things from a POS game that was so long ago lol.
The learning curve wasnt as steep in AW because of the RR, so it kept people attention a lot more. Especially since it didn't take a super fast computer to run it.
Do you remember when I used to tell ya that the 109 was just a mini-38? Man you could do awesome stuff with those flaps. You are right about the learning curve but the interaction was the main thing for me in AW. Gawd how I miss those deathstars and Vaders! :(
All the best old bud...
Jay
awDoc1
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RR noobs.
;)
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Originally posted by Fencer51
As the person who did 95% of the missions / campaigns in AWII and AWIII thanks for the compliments!
I liked the VF-10 campaign, the "save the US" mission, the shoot down of Yammamoto, and of course the VF-17 campaign best myself. Oh and of course the 4th FG one.
Dang! You been around longer than me!
http://www.fw190.org/images/LDSAFE_2.jpg
All I did was pester the snots out of him with volumes of data and phone calls about the P-38 and how to make it right in AW-1 Geeze-uhssss that goes way back!
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Originally posted by PK1Mw
AW was better outside of the game than inside. The community was 10x what this community is, not only because it was smaller, but because people actually took the time out to learn, teach, and make friends. We have that here in AH, but no where near like in AW. It was nothing to sit in the OC with 10-15 people and just BS the night away, and sometimes that was more fun that flying. I do salute those are have tried and are trying to bring that to AH.
Now the game itself.. definitely AH over AW. Graphics, plane selection, flight model. However AW didn't have HO'n dweebs (because of the infamous "hit bubble", rams, and AW did have a LOT better fights for the most part :)
Absofreakinlutely. The community was very tight in AW. I regret not going to the convention in Addison.
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Originally posted by Odee
Dang! You been around longer than me!
http://www.fw190.org/images/LDSAFE_2.jpg
All I did was pester the snots out of him with volumes of data and phone calls about the P-38 and how to make it right in AW-1 Geeze-uhssss that goes way back!
Yep since January of 1990 after seeing a small column in computer gaming worldl in December of 1989.
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I never got to play AW but I'd love to give it a go. I'd be interested in an iso, rar, zip whatever!:aok
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Well said PK1.
Nobody denies the technical 'improvements' of AH and ...what would I do without AH ? :) I'd probably be vastly more insane than I am today..... BUT the satisfaction gained from an hour of AW is quite unreachable here. It used to be a constant laughing. When I got shot down I used to laugh. It's not just me. Today every1 is pissed, no1 talks friendly. We're all pissed off and I think it's because of the perks and ranking. If AH took that crap away it would be a HUGE improvement.
So what if a stuka could kick a spit's arse? What if a goon was impossible to kill if you were triying to dogfight it instead of BNZ it? I made friends over AW and I go to their weddings. Here people don't even chat. Too serious.
AH could be just as much fun if the testosterone was taken out of the equation.
We had the best time with a 110 that turned better than a PJ. It was an absoulte ball.
I used to pair with any newbie, me in a goon he in a fitter. I'd make the nme think they could kill my goon but drain all their E then the newbie would come in and get kill after kill. I nevew laughed that much in this game.
Another blast was a stuka duel. It would go for 30 mins. Those bb guns would take forever to kill any1 and in the mean time youd make really tight turns at 2 mph :)
To me THAT was fun. The only complaint i used to have was about the friggin discos!!!
I think this game could be made just as fun.
EA killed Kesmai.
Ranking and scoring kills AH....
Actually now that i think about it. H2H was closer to the AW fun than the MA. Why not reinstate H2H only for paying customers?
Fiat ( in Aw also Pazzo, Tuffo )
BTW, the above screenshots are from the early era. The last versions of AW were much better.
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Originally posted by DmdFiat
Ranking and scoring kills AH....
Without question, scoring/ranking has changed the game for the worse far more than anything else.
In the old days we just had fun - the dueling ladder was there for those who wanted to prove who was better (and did).
Shamroc
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Originally posted by shamroc
Without question, scoring/ranking has changed the game for the worse far more than anything else.
Agreed.
- Oldman (f/k/a "Oldma")
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
If they are out of business cant that be freely downloaded say if a kind soul would post it somewhere as a rar file?
As much as some would like it, EA hasn't gone out of business yet.
The best offline flight sim is still European Air War though.
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Ahhh... the things we forget.
I just took a flight on the historic europe map :) went across the channel in my jug in aw 3. I can get classic going just have to change 256 colors.
The interface with AW is better then AH. setup sound joystick and such same stuff we have, just point and click. Remember the guy in the setup hanger. The co-pilot in the buffs. The adjustible piper gunsight, had to reset it to "red dot, yellow tracers" as Big T would say :) Everything worked accept the full screen view and 3d really did not look that bad :) even the calibration of my joysticks. Remember the white cliffs of dover? :) remember how the guns buffeted? they was no alt x feature you had to know the speed of your plane and best climb and so on. remember the {ESC} key commands esc:sd or sg for the dive bomb sight esc;a arm bomb the fire bomb button is the same so it worked on my setup {what}. I think I will go make a run to the spitter in a 17 ;) take a look through the norden.
asta,
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I sort of agree scoring and ranks hurt AH but I think it's also the mindset of the players nowdays, especially the ones that have played games with so called 'cheats' to improve their performance. They don't have any in AH so they game the game and still try to get the 'cheats' to make them look better. They do not want to waste the time to actually improve their skill with a little work and most likely some suffereing a death or a few hundred deaths.
They want to be better NOW and take the shortest cut they can find to get there.
Disclaimer- Cheat, as I used it, is in no way intended to mean hacking the game.
We all know a 16 ton weight falls from the top of this food chain and deals with anyone who does or mentions that.
It is more intended to apply to other games where certain key combinations or secreet things you find can improve your playing performance.
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Funy AH had a developing community in the works, seem to remember that being pretty much subsumed and consumed by the influx from the death of AW.
Good business opportunity for HTC though.
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There were plenty of score monkeys in AW. Anyone here besides Fencer remember ELO?
Hey Roberto...
Remember Carlos and his bunch, conquering the arena every day before any Bz or Cz logged in?
Not really anything that new in AH, when it comes to how people play.
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AW might have even been worse in that 200 people made the leader board (or was it 100... 200 seems right) except it was soley based on points so the more you flew the more likely you were to be on it.
And yes, nothing's changed. There were milkrunners then just as there are now.
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Originally posted by DmdFiat
BTW, the above screenshots are from the early era. The last versions of AW were much better.
Early era?? The picture I posted was prime time AW2. Early era was wireframe aircraft, pyramid mountains and solid blue sky with a round yellow sun :)
Gunner
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Originally posted by Fencer51
Yep since January of 1990 after seeing a small column in computer gaming worldl in December of 1989.
One of my squadies tracked down the article in question online.
You can read all about AW circa 1989 HERE (Jan 1990 Issue) (http://cgw.vintagegaming.org/galleries/index.php?year=1982&pub=2&id=5&CGWMUSEUM=17b399869f5e8f6ad03fddab6a21a338)
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
There were plenty of score monkeys in AW. Anyone here besides Fencer remember ELO?
Hey Roberto...
Remember Carlos and his bunch, conquering the arena every day before any Bz or Cz logged in?
Not really anything that new in AH, when it comes to how people play.
How abouty -Pal, the pick and run dweeb?
Doc... I seem to remember some fun KI84 (you) and F4u (me) fites back then...unless my feeble brain is beginning to shrink.
Balsy
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
There were plenty of score monkeys in AW.
yer stilla dweebette ;-P**************
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Originally posted by Fencer51
You can read all about AW circa 1989 HERE (Jan 1990 Issue) (http://cgw.vintagegaming.org/galleries/index.php?year=1982&pub=2&id=5&CGWMUSEUM=17b399869f5e8f6ad03fddab6a21a338)
There are some very interesting advices listed under tactics in that article:
3) Never join a fuzzball, er, dogfight
4) With flaps down you gain altitude in place of speed. Flaps up give you increased speed, but not as much altitude
5) Don't bother leading the target as you would if you were duckhunting
6) Avoid aces. You can examine other players' score. So, if they have high pilot rating, avoid them!
:D
There's a review of "Their Finest Hour" in that issue too. My first air combat sim :aok
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AW had lasers for guns at that time, you did not lead. And they had a hit bubble.
The Finest Hour review was probably why I bought it, although I think I bought it quite frequently.
TFH was one heck of a great game. So was the Pacific one which came out about this same time with Midway as a feature.
Did you note the reviewer fell for the then "ALT F4" line. :lol Some things never change.
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" a kill has been recorded "
Relaxed Realism
Pac theatre