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Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 11, 2007, 04:21:44 PM
Gotta laugh at all the screw ups Hillary is making these days.  Flip flopping within minutes, her staff caught planting questions at a town hall meeting so she could answer them "I get asked this everywhere",  what a laugh.  Of course you do Hillary, your staff makes sure of it.

So many screw ups, and now she is playing the "your picking on me cause I am a woman" card.  She gonna do that with Hezzbolah???  Weep and run away?

This woman is the biggest phony to ever run for office, she is evil, scheming, nasty and the worst type of narcissist.

But hey, look at her record, she did such a fine job with national health care  rolleyes: ,  she did a fine job of hiding files then "finding" them, lets not talk about the wake of dead who have crossed the Clintons.

Anyone who would vote for her would rate as completely moronic in my book.
Title: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 04:25:08 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Gotta laugh at all the screw ups Hillary is making these days.  Flip flopping within minutes, her staff caught planting questions at a town hall meeting so she could answer them "I get asked this everywhere",  what a laugh.  Of course you do Hillary, your staff makes sure of it.

So many screw ups, and now she is playing the "your picking on me cause I am a woman" card.  She gonna do that with Hezzbolah???  Weep and run away?

This woman is the biggest phony to ever run for office, she is evil, scheming, nasty and the worst type of narcissist.

But hey, look at her record, she did such a fine job with national health care  rolleyes: ,  she did a fine job of hiding files then "finding" them, lets not talk about the wake of dead who have crossed the Clintons.

Anyone who would vote for her would rate as completely moronic in my book.


Whether I would vote for her (or her party) or not, I rate the rhetoric and conspiracy paranoia of this post equally moronic. But thank you. Ahem. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 11, 2007, 04:31:20 PM
*GASP!*  A communist defending a communist?  I never saw it coming.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 04:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
*GASP!*  A communist defending a communist?  I never saw it coming.


Son, I served against communists. I'd like to presume that you'll grow out of your ignorance some day but there's no guarantee from many of the adults who act the way you do, nowadays.

:D
Title: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Slash27 on November 11, 2007, 04:47:09 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Whether I would vote for her (or her party) or not, I rate the rhetoric and conspiracy paranoia of this post equally moronic. But thank you. Ahem. :D


Rhetoric maybe, but conspiracy paranoia?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 04:49:42 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Rhetoric maybe, but conspiracy paranoia?


Didn't see a non-biased source backing:

" her staff caught planting questions at a town hall meeting so she could answer them "I get asked this everywhere", what a laugh. Of course you do Hillary, your staff makes sure of it."

Until I do it's a paranoid conspiracy theory. When and if it's provided I'll simply jab the rhetoric slinging. :)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Slash27 on November 11, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
Define "non bias".  Who are the acceptable non bias sources in all this?




ya commie:rofl
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 04:57:12 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Define "non bias".  Who are the acceptable non bias sources in all this?




ya commie:rofl


Let's just say that it'll take a source less biased than "frontpagemag" or "Rush Limbaugh.com", comrade. ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: SteveBailey on November 11, 2007, 04:59:30 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Didn't see a non-biased source backing:

" her staff caught planting questions at a town hall meeting so she could answer them "I get asked this everywhere", what a laugh. Of course you do Hillary, your staff makes sure of it."

Until I do it's a paranoid conspiracy theory. When and if it's provided I'll simply jab the rhetoric slinging. :)


Her staff admitted to it.... are you so far out  there that you simply choose to ignore things that don't go in your leftist favor?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Gunslinger on November 11, 2007, 04:59:40 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Didn't see a non-biased source backing:

" her staff caught planting questions at a town hall meeting so she could answer them "I get asked this everywhere", what a laugh. Of course you do Hillary, your staff makes sure of it."

Until I do it's a paranoid conspiracy theory. When and if it's provided I'll simply jab the rhetoric slinging. :)


Geesh it was front page news this weekend.  I love this around election time.  It's like a jedi mind trick "my politicion never said that (wave of the hand)"
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 05:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Geesh it was front page news this weekend.  I love this around election time.  It's like a jedi mind trick "my politicion never said that (wave of the hand)"


Ahhhh, you're seeing things, alright. I'm not defending "my politician." I'm chastising over-the-top rhetoric. I can't help it. I was raised by grown-ups.

You were unable to find a link? If you're gonna squat, lay the egg. :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Gunslinger on November 11, 2007, 05:10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Ahhhh, you're seeing things, alright. I'm not defending "my politician." I'm chastising over-the-top rhetoric. I can't help it. I was raised by grown-ups.

You were unable to find a link? If you're gonna squat, lay the egg. :)


Take your pick!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310417,00.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2852733.ece

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill1111,0,7025279.story

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/11/clinton-machine.html

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/460034.aspx

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3848826&page=1

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/11/plants.html

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibDaM5Uxy4A4EqU8WOm_ygQ-TXjwD8SQIK4O4

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310316,00.html

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/11/hillary_clinton_campaign_planted_questions/
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: E25280 on November 11, 2007, 05:10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
You were unable to find a link? If you're gonna squat, lay the egg. :)
Geesh, you don't know how to Google?

I'll only post one, and since it is MSNBC, I would hope you will agree it isn't some "vast right wing conspiracy."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/459394.aspx

As much as she makes my skin crawl, I have to point out that she is far from the only politician that does this kind of thing.  Being who she is, though, she is a lot less likely to get away with it for long.  She will be caught, but as you can see even by the article I linked, there will be no "outcry" from the media about such a thing (unlike the FEMA thing, for example).

<> Jeesh, gunslinger, make me look cheap and silly . . . :lol
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Gunslinger on November 11, 2007, 05:17:12 PM
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Originally posted by E25280
Geesh, you don't know how to Google?

I'll only post one, and since it is MSNBC, I would hope you will agree it isn't some "vast right wing conspiracy."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/459394.aspx

As much as she makes my skin crawl, I have to point out that she is far from the only politician that does this kind of thing.  Being who she is, though, she is a lot less likely to get away with it for long.  She will be caught, but as you can see even by the article I linked, there will be no "outcry" from the media about such a thing (unlike the FEMA thing, for example).

<> Jeesh, gunslinger, make me look cheap and silly . . . :lol


Yup I just did a google new search and there was 242 articles on just this subject alone.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Donzo on November 11, 2007, 05:19:43 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Son, I served against communists.  


You played tennis against commies?  

Did you win?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 05:27:10 PM
I asked for the assertion to be backed with proof (wasn't my assertion) - it was provided, so I retract the "conspiracy paranoia" jab. The rhetoric is still quite over the top. If Dago hates Sen. Clinton so much for the character flaws highlighted (as if she's the only politician that can be hated for such), then there's a serious case of blinders here.

Just say no to rhetoric. Approach important decisions maturely, calmly and intelligently. Just a suggestion. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 05:27:50 PM
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Originally posted by Donzo
You played tennis against commies?  

Did you win?


Most assuredly. You weren't on the sidelines watching? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Xargos on November 11, 2007, 05:58:41 PM
The real reason the Russians took down the Berlin Wall is because they realized there where more commies on the Western side of it.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Pooh21 on November 11, 2007, 06:03:45 PM
The commies over there had uniforms with nifty hats and vodka

the commies here are barefoot stinking hippies.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 06:05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
The commies over there had uniforms with nifty hats and vodka

the commies here are barefoot stinking hippies.


Since you're in ideological freefall mode, what do Nazis over here look like, just so we can profile them correctly? ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Pooh21 on November 11, 2007, 06:10:48 PM
take a bath hippie
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 06:25:15 PM
Done. Take your meds, darlin. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Slash27 on November 11, 2007, 06:34:57 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
, what do Nazis over here look like, just so we can profile them correctly? ;)



 

Like you dont know.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp7IFc5jbc
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 06:42:20 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Like you dont know.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp7IFc5jbc


Elwood: Illinois Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Nazis.

(Guess the main difference tween commies over there and nazis over here is the vodka?) ;)
Title: Hillary
Post by: TalonX on November 11, 2007, 06:49:09 PM
While not a Dem, I do believe they have better options than a person who has schemed and lied her way to be positioned to be President.

Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 11, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
I'm dissapointed that Hillary would stoop to the same tricks the Bush administration has been pulling for 6 years. Like planting "reporters" in press confrences and holding scripted closed "Town Hall Meetings". She should have known better.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Yeager on November 11, 2007, 07:38:14 PM
Obama is the most intelligent of the lot of them, and at least he is honest enough for the average American to know they would not want him as President.

this last thing this country needs after surviving a family dynasty in the Presidency (assuming it does survive), is another family dynasty in the Presidency.  No more Bush, no more Clinton!  Thats what I say.

Of course I am undecided as to which republican I support but McCain has my attention.  Thompson as well.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Gunslinger on November 11, 2007, 07:39:55 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12j5k_hillary-at-snl_fun

:rofl
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 07:45:30 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Obama is the most intelligent of the lot of them, and at least he is honest enough for the average American to know they would not want him as President.

this last thing this country needs after surviving a family dynasty in the Presidency (assuming it does survive), is another family dynasty in the Presidency.  No more Bush, no more Clinton!  Thats what I say.

Of course I am undecided as to which republican I support but McCain has my attention.  Thompson as well.


Give me your reasons for thinking Edwards is neither intelligent nor honest.

If ... you feel like.

Wasn't Mac villified for being a RINO just a couple years back?

What specific qualifications makes Thompson a great pick other than celebrity (ala Reagan)?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 11, 2007, 08:05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Give me your reasons for thinking Edwards is neither intelligent nor honest.

If ... you feel like.

Wasn't Mac villified for being a RINO just a couple years back?

What specific qualifications makes Thompson a great pick other than celebrity (ala Reagan)?


4 Million Dollar Poverty Research

Owning a stake in the Companies that Forecloses on New Orleans homes.

Being for the Poor.



I could keep going, but I think those are enough.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 08:08:38 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
4 Million Dollar Poverty Research

Owning a stake in the Companies that Forecloses on New Orleans homes.

Being for the Poor.



I could keep going, but I think those are enough.


Mmmmmmnope. Not even a genuine effort. Elaborate. :D

While you're at it (and since you're butting in to champion), answer all of the questions I asked Yeager. :aok
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 11, 2007, 09:38:25 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm dissapointed that Hillary would stoop to the same tricks the Bush administration has been pulling for 6 years. Like planting "reporters" in press confrences and holding scripted closed "Town Hall Meetings". She should have known better.


Oh my God!  A tiny speck of light just shined on MT.  I can imagine his eyes blinking involuntarily after so long in the dark.  Now if he can just continue his exposure to reality we may have hope someday he will come out of the dark all together.   :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 09:41:47 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Oh my God!  A tiny speck of light just shined on MT.  I can imagine his eyes blinking involuntarily after so long in the dark.  Now if he can just continue his exposure to reality we may have hope someday he will come out of the dark all together.   :D


May even drag you along? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Masherbrum on November 11, 2007, 09:45:40 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Since you're in ideological freefall mode, what do Nazis over here look like, just so we can profile them correctly? ;)
Shouldn't it read "Ondonga"?    As in Ondonga, New Guinea?    Just curious.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 11, 2007, 09:54:09 PM
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Shouldn't it read "Ondonga"?    As in Ondonga, New Guinea?    Just curious.


Bless you for being one of the few to give that even a first glance. :D

"Ondongo in the New Georgia group lies about midway up the Solomons chain. The Americans had started at Guadalcanal in August 1942, and were slowly working their way up the chain, toward the northernmost island, Bougainville, and the major Jap base at Rabaul. By late October 1943, the Americans had occupied New Georgia and were directly threatening Bougainville next."

"Ondongo, October - November, 1943

At 0730 on Oct. 27, Fighting-17 came over the coral strip at Ondongo, executed a perfect carrier-style break-up and approach, touched down at thirty-second intervals, and used up only 200 feet of runway. They thought they were showing off. The Army P-39 and New Zealand P-40 pilots thought they were nuts.

Ondongo, "Place of Death," was beautiful, bug-free (good), sniper-free (better), close to the enemy (best), but unfortunately devoid of women (very bad). The maintenance crew of Marine squadron VMF-215 adopted the Jolly Rogers from the beginning, and they got along famously for the whole tour. "

http://www.acepilots.com/usn_blackburn.html

(I'm a VF-17 fan .... well ... obviously) :)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: porkfrog on November 11, 2007, 10:44:11 PM
This is why I'll be voting for Ron Paul. This country is quickly going to hell in a handbasket, and this is the first man (or woman) I've seen in my life time I think could maybe fix things. I have no party affiliation. I'm also telling everyone I know about this guy.

http://thisnovember5th.com (Watch the video)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Yeager on November 11, 2007, 11:54:34 PM
Give me your reasons for thinking Edwards is neither intelligent nor honest.
====
I used to think Edwards was a new hope for the democratic ticket.  This of course was before he agreed to become Al Gores running mate.  During that campaign I saw a tape of him giving a talk to a religious group where he said that if the republicans had not been elected then Chris Reeves would be walking.  It was a pathetic moment where I realized Edwards not even average.

Wasn't Mac villified for being a RINO just a couple years back?
====
With McCain I feel more on a gut level that he would simply be decent man to have in the oval office.  Far better than Edwards or another Clinton, by far.

What specific qualifications makes Thompson a great pick other than celebrity (ala Reagan)?
====
I still need to study the guy, very much so.  Just compared to most of the others on the ticket, I have enough ignorance about him to not dislike him.  yet.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 12:13:56 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
I used to think Edwards was a new hope for the democratic ticket.  This of course was before he agreed to become Al Gores running mate.  During that campaign I saw a tape of him giving a talk to a religious group where he said that if the republicans had not been elected then Chris Reeves would be walking.  It was a pathetic moment where I realized Edwards not even average.


Hmmm. Got link? Even so, is this not a reference to the Bush admin's fervent objection to stem cell research based on moral grounds?

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Originally posted by Yeager

With McCain I feel more on a gut level that he would simply be decent man to have in the oval office.  Far better than Edwards or another Clinton, by far.


Ok. Far be it from me to challenge gut instincts of others. We all have them. I once shared yours. Then Mac changed. Suddenly. It was almost as if someone got to him. But then, that's also just gut talkin'.

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Originally posted by Yeager
I still need to study the guy (Thompson), very much so.  Just compared to most of the others on the ticket, I have enough ignorance about him to not dislike him.  yet.


Fair enough. Thanks for the honest and straightforward responses.

I'm still workin' out my choices. I'm lookin' at individuals, not parties. To each their own.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: GovtFlu on November 12, 2007, 04:12:20 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm dissapointed that Hillary would stoop to the same tricks the Bush administration has been pulling for 6 years. Like planting "reporters" in press confrences and holding scripted closed "Town Hall Meetings". She should have known better.


Both teams use the same play book.. then deny it with some low budget moral outrage, that just happen to touch on every party talking point, at the nerve of the other team for playing the game. Politically effective tools work for both sides, the Clinton's are just as pond scummy as the Bushes and nowhere near being morally superior.

The dems just got schooled in the art of blatantly urinating on the publics face, accompanied by a .gov expert and a few media reports warning of "protein rich yellow rain" that gives the local news watching masses little concern beyond remembering an umbrella.. the rain might smell piss-like, but the govt & media say its ok... I don't see Bill & Hill above fictional golden showers of planted questions, half truths, and BS if it helps them re-acquire power.

Besides that, seriously, I see very few of the left/right sheep giving a fecal loaf about how their "lessor of two evils" side kept the other team from gaining power. Elections remind me of 2 sheep standing in a deluge of said protein rich yellow rain, the right sheep complains of a foul smell while the left sheep rejoices at the end of the drought...
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 04:33:29 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
May even drag you along? :D


Pretty funny from a guy who embarrassed himself by demonstrating he has no clue about what is happening in the country, a guy who doesn't read the news or watch TV news.  Why don't you first try to come up to speed on current events before you make any more stupid comments on this board?

Hey Arlo, the sun is going to come up in the morning, do you want some links to prove it?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 04:39:00 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Hmmm. Got link? Even so, is this not a reference to the Bush admin's fervent objection to stem cell research based on moral grounds?




Are you too lazy or dense to use google?   It takes all of 10 seconds to pull up google.com and type in "John Edwards Chris Reeves" and get plenty of links quoting Edwards blaming republicans for reeves situation.

Making a habit of challenging others for links it would take yourself 10 whole seconds to find yourself?  

Is it really our responsibility to educate you?  Do we really have to drag you kicking and screaming into the world of learning?  Would you rather sit with your head in the sand?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Brownshirt on November 12, 2007, 04:55:10 AM
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Originally posted by Dago
Is it really our responsibility to educate you?  Do we really have to drag you kicking and screaming into the world of learning?  Would you rather sit with your head in the sand? [/B]



Ja, We will be glad to educate you! We will show you what We can do to You!
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: FiLtH on November 12, 2007, 08:40:18 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm dissapointed that Hillary would stoop to the same tricks the Bush administration has been pulling for 6 years. Like planting "reporters" in press confrences and holding scripted closed "Town Hall Meetings". She should have known better.


   Tahgut, she didnt stoop...she found a step ladder and climbed up out of a hole to grab the ideas from his back pocket :)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 12, 2007, 08:51:01 AM
geeze arlo...ever since they kicked you out of the general forum you have been a pain here.

admit it... you have no trouble at all accepting any news that is bad for anyone to the right of stalin.... no matter what the source.  

Sheesh.. didn't like hippies when they were around... now that they are a footnote...  I still don't like em.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 09:18:05 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2


Sheesh.. didn't like hippies when they were around... now that they are a footnote...  I still don't like em.

lazs


Nobody likes hippies.  Lazy out-of-touch scum.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: SteveBailey on November 12, 2007, 11:36:24 AM
Skuzzy, please change the name of this thread to:  Arlo owned, and owned again.


Thank you,



Steve
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on November 12, 2007, 11:41:33 AM
Guys, few people have a greater or more factual based dislike for Ms. Clinton than I. But the personal comments on Arlo don't do anything about the real problem, Ms. Clinton.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 12:35:51 PM
Unfortunately, like her husband, nothing Hillary says or does will dissuade those inclined to vote for her. It's only a matter of time before the welfare dependent outnumber the tax payers or the illegals are allowed to vote. When that happens it's over. Let's just hope we're not quite there.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 12, 2007, 12:51:08 PM
Vote American in 2008
<<<<~~~~ Throwin my hat in...

Vote Mac!!! Free America.

Here's my proposal:

I'm in on a write in ballot.. called: American.

1. We safeguard our borders, North and South, East and West.

2. Total ellimination of Corporate outsourcing..If you depend upon 3rd World Countries to do American work then you move to that dam Country...yer not American.

3. The UN is outta the USA... send these corrupt bassturds to France or where ever...just get them out, after they pay all their parking tickets.

4. American Education. College is open to all. No tuitions. If you make the grade you made it!

5. We are no longer the Worlds police force. Collect the funds due to the USA from Germany, France and everyone else and pay back to China. There is no longer a Favorite trade Nation. You want to trade with us it's straight across the board!

6. NAFTA is out.

7. All ExPresidents are just that... Ex Presidents. So STFU.

8. We rebuild America. Starting with the Farmers, Teachers, Firemen and the Police.

9. If you can walk, talk, spell there is a job out there for you. Revamp of the Welfare System.

10. In GOD We Trust is just that! It's Christmas... NOT Xmas, NOT Seasons Greetings....  You don't like it? Leave.

11. All Medical and Dental are paid from the Goverment. Gotta look good and feel good. This is America.

12. Freedom.


This is my plan, my Ticket. I don't see either party with one yet.
I'm not rich, if anything I went from poor to maybe middle class.

I say raise your Country as you would raise your child. Hug it, Love it and never let go.

Vote for a Free America, Vote for Mac!

Mac
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Ripsnort on November 12, 2007, 01:28:54 PM
If you read/listen closely to Hillary, she's more a republican than a democrat...but only because she's trying to appeal to a wide voter base.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: 0thehero on November 12, 2007, 01:44:34 PM
^ Agreed.  HRC is a lot of things; stupid isn't one of them.  What she learned from the health care reform attempt was that it's more important to work in the system than against it.  Battleships still don't turn on dimes.

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It's only a matter of time before the welfare dependent outnumber the tax payers or the illegals are allowed to vote. When that happens it's over. Let's just hope we're not quite there.


Dude, we've been there for a long time already.  Putting it soley (hah! I kill) at the feet of the DNC is ignoring the last 30 years of political history.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 02:41:00 PM
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Originally posted by 0thehero
^ Agreed.  HRC is a lot of things; stupid isn't one of them.  What she learned from the health care reform attempt was that it's more important to work in the system than against it.  Battleships still don't turn on dimes.



Dude, we've been there for a long time already.  Putting it soley (hah! I kill) at the feet of the DNC is ignoring the last 30 years of political history.


You just think we're there. If Hillary is elected we may all look back on this day and before with fond memories.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
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Originally posted by GovtFlu
Both teams use the same play book..



The dems just got schooled in the art of blatantly urinating on the publics face, accompanied by a .gov expert and a few media reports warning of "protein rich yellow rain" that gives the local news watching masses little concern beyond remembering an umbrella.. the rain might smell piss-like, but the govt & media say its ok... I


Whew ..... you almost avoided over-the top-hyper-imaginative colorful rhetoric there.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:03:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Pretty funny from a guy who embarrassed himself by demonstrating he has no clue about what is happening in the country, a guy who doesn't read the news or watch TV news.  Why don't you first try to come up to speed on current events before you make any more stupid comments on this board?

Hey Arlo, the sun is going to come up in the morning, do you want some links to prove it?


Dang. I "embarrassed" myself by missing "the most important news story of the century."

Sorry, Dag. Rhetoric has never impressed me (borrowed from others or wildly invented yourself). Even when it's spun from a "unique and horrible newsworthy event."

Got gall? ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:07:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Are you too lazy or dense to use google?   It takes all of 10 seconds to pull up google.com and type in "John Edwards Chris Reeves" and get plenty of links quoting Edwards blaming republicans for reeves situation.

Making a habit of challenging others for links it would take yourself 10 whole seconds to find yourself?  

Is it really our responsibility to educate you?  Do we really have to drag you kicking and screaming into the world of learning?  Would you rather sit with your head in the sand?


I didn't challenge a link. None was originally provided. I did challenge conclusion. What part of "not my responsibility to prove another's assertion" did you miss? Someone provided. I responded accordingly. Unknot your panties and take a breath

Dag, don't run after the train once it's passed, old son. I know it's an "opportunity" you sorely wanted in on but I'm sure there's plenty of legs available for you to hump `round here. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tiger on November 12, 2007, 03:08:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Vote American in 2008
<<<<~~~~ Throwin my hat in...

Vote Mac!!! Free America.

Here's my proposal:

I'm in on a write in ballot.. called: American.

1. We safeguard our borders, North and South, East and West.

2. Total ellimination of Corporate outsourcing..If you depend upon 3rd World Countries to do American work then you move to that dam Country...yer not American.

3. The UN is outta the USA... send these corrupt bassturds to France or where ever...just get them out, after they pay all their parking tickets.

4. American Education. College is open to all. No tuitions. If you make the grade you made it!

5. We are no longer the Worlds police force. Collect the funds due to the USA from Germany, France and everyone else and pay back to China. There is no longer a Favorite trade Nation. You want to trade with us it's straight across the board!

6. NAFTA is out.

7. All ExPresidents are just that... Ex Presidents. So STFU.

8. We rebuild America. Starting with the Farmers, Teachers, Firemen and the Police.

9. If you can walk, talk, spell there is a job out there for you. Revamp of the Welfare System.

10. In GOD We Trust is just that! It's Christmas... NOT Xmas, NOT Seasons Greetings....  You don't like it? Leave.

11. All Medical and Dental are paid from the Goverment. Gotta look good and feel good. This is America.

12. Freedom.


This is my plan, my Ticket. I don't see either party with one yet.
I'm not rich, if anything I went from poor to maybe middle class.

I say raise your Country as you would raise your child. Hug it, Love it and never let go.

Vote for a Free America, Vote for Mac!

Mac


Mac, you almost had me until #11...  then I sat down and thought about it for about 10 mins before I posted.  I decided I can go with Gov't funded Health Care because it still means more money in my paycheck.  You are substituting Gov't funded Health Care for Welfare, net tax increase 0 (maybe even a decreae considering welfare recipients also get gov't covered health ins now).  And I get to keep my employee payed portion of my current Health Insurance.  Sounds like a good deal to me.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:12:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
geeze arlo...ever since they kicked you out of the general forum you have been a pain here.

admit it... you have no trouble at all accepting any news that is bad for anyone to the right of stalin.... no matter what the source.  

Sheesh.. didn't like hippies when they were around... now that they are a footnote...  I still don't like em.

lazs


Ahhhh .... presumptive unreasoning strikes again. If you can't make up a good argument against a point, reinvent circumstances and opponent to give you "higher" ground.

I've never been kicked out of any forum. I've never had trouble accepting anything that's actually news and not rhetorical commentary and you're not more socially acceptable than anyone who's ever posted (on this forum or any I've visited, to date).

But if it takes your publically asserting such to feel justifiable. By all means.

:D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:14:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
Skuzzy, please change the name of this thread to:  Arlo owned, and owned again.


Thank you,



Steve


Girlfriends aroused you? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:16:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
You just think we're there. If Hillary is elected we may all look back on this day and before with fond memories.


Ah, kinda like the way many look on the twentieth century in the U.S. right now. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 03:25:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Ah, kinda like the way many look on the twentieth century in the U.S. right now. :D


More like how the indians look back before the white man came.

"The indian hunted and fished all day. Paid no taxes, and the women did all the work. The white man thought he could improve on this."
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 03:30:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
More like how the indians look back before the white man came.

"The indian hunted and fished all day. Paid no taxes, and the women did all the work. The white man thought he could improve on this."


No argument. Some may claim this is proof I'm a crazed hippie. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tiger on November 12, 2007, 03:36:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron


"The indian hunted and fished all day. Paid no taxes, and the women did all the work. The white man thought he could improve on this."


That is Signature material right there.

I actually should go get that printed on T-shirts and give them away as Christmas presents
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 07:49:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you read/listen closely to Hillary, she's more a republican than a democrat...but only because she's trying to appeal to a wide voter base.


Hillary is the master of being who she thinks the audience wants her to be, she doesn't have the guts to show who she is and stick by her own beliefs.  She will potato herself in any way to get power.

It is one of the reasons people are starting to notice her flip flopping, she plays to each audience, to each person asking a question.

Though she doesn't understand it, her very acting in this manner shows us exactly who she is, and it isn't someone who should hold an important office.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 08:10:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Hillary is the master of being who she thinks the audience wants her to be, she doesn't have the guts to show who she is and stick by her own beliefs.  She will potato herself in any way to get power.

It is one of the reasons people are starting to notice her flip flopping, she plays to each audience, to each person asking a question.

Though she doesn't understand it, her very acting in this manner shows us exactly who she is, and it isn't someone who should hold an important office.


Again, no matter who I like I don't see you making a case for me not choosing Sen. Clinton.

She "plays" to each person asking a question? Is that like ..... attentiveness? Empathy? Sincere interest? How deceptive!

C'mon. You can influence my vote better than this! :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 12, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
Sounds like the ultimate sin Hillary has committed is becoming a very competent politician. Maybe a great politician is what we need in the white house. Maybe someone with the ability to create a consensus is more important than someone with the ability to stick to one bad idea for too long. Flip flopping is just silly speak for changing your mind about things. Maybe it would be better to have someone with the intellectual honesty to admit they were wrong and to change course.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tumor on November 12, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
If Dago hates Sen. Clinton so much for the character flaws highlighted....
 


Well, how about the word "Clinton" in her name... that's about all it takes for me.  No rhetoric  :)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tumor on November 12, 2007, 09:16:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tumor
Well, how about the word "Clinton" in her name... that's about all it takes for me.  No rhetoric  :)



Oh, and her face.  That too hehe.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 09:24:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Sounds like the ultimate sin Hillary has committed is becoming a very competent politician. Maybe a great politician is what we need in the white house. Maybe someone with the ability to create a consensus is more important than someone with the ability to stick to one bad idea for too long. Flip flopping is just silly speak for changing your mind about things. Maybe it would be better to have someone with the intellectual honesty to admit they were wrong and to change course.


How did Colbert put it at the luncheon?

"I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers, and rubble, and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message: that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound—with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world."
 
"Events can change; this man's beliefs never will. He believes the same thing Wednesday as he did Monday. No matter what happened Tuesday."

Funny stuff.
:lol
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 09:26:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tumor
Well, how about the word "Clinton" in her name... that's about all it takes for me.  No rhetoric  :)


Guess it's honest even if peculiar. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Toad on November 12, 2007, 10:01:46 PM
Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton, Clinton.........

28 years.

And then maybe their kids will be old enough to continue the fam-ill-eeee Tra-dition.

What the hell happened to us?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shamus on November 12, 2007, 10:45:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Clinton, Clinton.........

28 years.

And then maybe their kids will be old enough to continue the fam-ill-eeee Tra-dition.

What the hell happened to us?


We got intellectually lazy.

shamus
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 11:03:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Again, no matter who I like I don't see you making a case for me not choosing Sen. Clinton.

She "plays" to each person asking a question? Is that like ..... attentiveness? Empathy? Sincere interest? How deceptive!

C'mon. You can influence my vote better than this! :D


Why would I care to influence a complete and utter idiot like you?

I don't care to make a case, and your obviously much to stupid and lazy to find out the truth yourself.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 12, 2007, 11:06:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Sounds like the ultimate sin Hillary has committed is becoming a very competent politician. Maybe a great politician is what we need in the white house. Maybe someone with the ability to create a consensus is more important than someone with the ability to stick to one bad idea for too long. Flip flopping is just silly speak for changing your mind about things. Maybe it would be better to have someone with the intellectual honesty to admit they were wrong and to change course.


Yeah, that's what we want in a world leader, someone who on camera reverses herself within 10 minutes.  Someone viewed as wishy washy, you know, as in lacking backbone and resolve.  Someone who can be pushed around and crumbles at any resistance.  Sounds like a typical democrat I will give you that, no wonder it fits the criterea you seek.   Cut-and-run cowards.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 12, 2007, 11:34:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Why would I care to influence a complete and utter idiot like you?

I don't care to make a case, and your obviously much to stupid and lazy to find out the truth yourself.


Yeah. I buy that. You start this type of thread to form a support group and anyone who doesn't appreciate you for it activates your bladder. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: SteveBailey on November 13, 2007, 01:13:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Again, no matter who I like I don't see you making a case for me not choosing Sen. Clinton.

She "plays" to each person asking a question? Is that like ..... attentiveness? Empathy? Sincere interest? How deceptive!

C'mon. You can influence my vote better than this! :D



How about the way she handled the question regarding NY DL's for  illegal aliens?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: TheDudeDVant on November 13, 2007, 01:49:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Why would I care to influence a complete and utter idiot like you?

I don't care to make a case, and you're obviously much too stupid and lazy to find out the truth yourself.


There... I fixed it for you.. If you're going to belittle someone at least attempt to appear somewhat intelligent while doing so.. 8)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Brownshirt on November 13, 2007, 03:25:35 AM
At least he left out the "We".
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: ded on November 13, 2007, 03:35:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gunslinger
Take your pick!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310417,00.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2852733.ece

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-ushill1111,0,7025279.story

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/11/clinton-machine.html

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/10/460034.aspx

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3848826&page=1

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/11/plants.html

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ibDaM5Uxy4A4EqU8WOm_ygQ-TXjwD8SQIK4O4

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310316,00.html

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/11/hillary_clinton_campaign_planted_questions/
The fact that 2 of your links are from foxnews, I feel that this is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 13, 2007, 06:55:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ded
The fact that 2 of your links are from foxnews, I feel that this is a waste of time.


Another of the challenged who decide that a station that doesn't bias well left is bad.  Never seen one of these tards ever explain why that is, show what is so wrong with Fox.  I have seen a few dumb enough to say Fox is bad, bad, bad, then say they never have watched it.  Always amazed by their admitting such an absurd thing.

This one wants to dismiss the truth about his fantasy girl so bad, he tries a really weak dodge by using Fox as an excuse to do so.  Sad really.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 13, 2007, 08:13:41 AM
a cursory look at hillary on the issues will show that it is impossible for anyone to be more left wing liberal.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

other democrats come close like osamabama but she is still queen.

I will be shocked if she is elected and feel sorry for my children.  It will not affect me much as I will retire and move away from her minions and live out my life in the country..  probly they will have bigger fish to fry.

I don't think the world.. but especially the US is ready for a liberal woman leader.. the women that have been leaders have been conservative.  I would vote for a libertarian or individualist woman over a conservative republican sooo.. it is not the woman thing.

negro?  not so sure... there are very very very few of em who exist who don't have that chip on their shoulder.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tumor on November 13, 2007, 12:24:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
a cursory look at hillary on the issues will show that it is impossible for anyone to be more left wing liberal.
 


http://tinyurl.com/ystoqd
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shamus on November 13, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
So Dago, what do you think about Hillary Clinton? :rofl

shamus
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 13, 2007, 04:42:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tumor
http://tinyurl.com/ystoqd


I actually clicked on that link twice before I realized what it was. Thought my mouse was screwing up. Funny.... but I'll admit it's probably true.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tumor on November 13, 2007, 05:06:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Funny.... but I'll admit it's probably true.


well DUH!?! :)   But ya, I couldn't resist.  How you been MT?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Masherbrum on November 13, 2007, 05:22:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Sounds like the ultimate sin Hillary has committed is becoming a very competent politician. Maybe a great politician is what we need in the white house. Maybe someone with the ability to create a consensus is more important than someone with the ability to stick to one bad idea for too long. Flip flopping is just silly speak for changing your mind about things. Maybe it would be better to have someone with the intellectual honesty to admit they were wrong and to change course.
Erm  Tahgut, um, come on now.....(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/hillary.jpg):D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 13, 2007, 08:50:19 PM
It's all good Tumor.

Mash please.. You don't want to compare REAL gaffs... say Hillary vs, Bush? That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Masherbrum on November 13, 2007, 09:59:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
It's all good Tumor.

Mash please.. You don't want to compare REAL gaffs... say Hillary vs, Bush? That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
lighten up Francois!!   Tis only a joke.   You Kalifornians have guns?   We're gonna have to change that soon.   :cool:

<> bro,

Karaya
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 13, 2007, 10:03:54 PM
Kalifornians have guns... just no trigger fingers or the balls.
Mac
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 13, 2007, 10:18:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Kalifornians have guns... just no trigger fingers or the balls.
Mac


You can keep the guns that are actuated by ball triggers, thank ya.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 14, 2007, 07:52:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
It's all good Tumor.

Mash please.. You don't want to compare REAL gaffs... say Hillary vs, Bush? That's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.


Great logic that, basically what I would expect from a raging liberal.  "She's not as bad as xxxxx, so she is okay".

Kinda ignores that fact that she is a lieing evil person, as long as she isn't as bad as someone else.

Yeah, that is the criteria to elect a person.   Don't bother looking for the best candidate, elect someone who "isn't as bad as xxxxx".   :rolleyes:
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 14, 2007, 06:22:57 PM
Night of the living democrats (http://www.jibjab.com/starring_you/receipt/2898448)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 14, 2007, 06:49:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Great logic that, basically what I would expect from a raging neocon.  "Bush's not as bad as xxxxx, so he's is okay".
 :rolleyes:


Perspective can be a wonderful thing when one has it. A double standard is no standard at all. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 15, 2007, 08:42:34 AM
arlo..pretty sure that you wouldn't recognize "perspective" if it bit you on your lefty butt...  the pot may have something to do with that tho.

lazs
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: ded on November 15, 2007, 12:04:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Another of the challenged who decide that a station that doesn't bias well left is bad.  Never seen one of these tards ever explain why that is, show what is so wrong with Fox.  I have seen a few dumb enough to say Fox is bad, bad, bad, then say they never have watched it.  Always amazed by their admitting such an absurd thing.

This one wants to dismiss the truth about his fantasy girl so bad, he tries a really weak dodge by using Fox as an excuse to do so.  Sad really.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fox+news+bias&btnG=Google+Search

There is a place to start you out.  Enjoy.

As far as finding faults with Hillary I'm sure anyone can find some, same as all politicians.  I'm only pointing out that Fox as a news source has been proven to be utter tripe.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 15, 2007, 12:17:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ded
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fox+news+bias&btnG=Google+Search

There is a place to start you out.  Enjoy.

As far as finding faults with Hillary I'm sure anyone can find some, same as all politicians.  I'm only pointing out that Fox as a news source has been proven to be utter tripe.


A wee bit of bias is blatant in your answer, did you do the same search for CNN, CBS or any other news?  Sure doesn't appear so.  How about one of the sights that offer a comparison of bias between news media?   Again, doesn't appear so.   I guess in typical left wing fashion, you see only what you want to see, you point fingers on at those you want to find fault in.

Linking to some website doesn't answer the challenge of actually having watched a network you choose to denigrate.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 15, 2007, 02:44:55 PM
you might want to look at these sites to start.

It just proves that using cnn as a news source is pure tripe.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cnn+news+bias&btnG=Search

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 15, 2007, 06:57:17 PM
I wonder if those who claim Fox News is worthless realize how foolish that sounds to those of us who actually read their articles along with other sources for news?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 15, 2007, 07:15:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
arlo..pretty sure that you wouldn't recognize "perspective" if it bit you on your lefty butt...  the pot may have something to do with that tho.

lazs


"Lefty butt" heh. Clueless. ;)

Well then put the bowl down and reassess. Then read my post again. Then post in regards to it, specifically, and show where the lack of perspective rests.

I know. Too hard to accept reality. But we all accept you as you are. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 16, 2007, 08:59:13 AM
I see no error in my assesment of your leanings.. you are a lefty liberal.   You lack perspective.   merely looking at everything from a leftist view is not perspective.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 16, 2007, 09:07:44 AM
It does not follow that a person who agrees with a particular view lacks perspective or even hasn't looked at both sides. It also doesn't follow that a person who disagrees with you hasn't looked at all of the same evidence and reached a different conclusion.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 16, 2007, 11:21:24 AM
I see Hillary was playing the "you're all picking on me" card again.   How in the hell can anyone seriously consider wasting a vote on someone who would be such a poor choice.

She changes her stand on about everything just to please the particular audience of the day.  She hides behind her gender when the going gets tough.

There has been plenty of documentation about what a truely nasty lieing evil person she is.

What other First Lady had multiple books written detailing well what a nasty lieing evil person that First Lady is?  Answer: none, just Hillary, and there have been plenty of books on the subject.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2007, 05:01:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
I see no error in my assesment of your leanings.. you are a lefty liberal.   You lack perspective.   merely looking at everything from a leftist view is not perspective.

lazs


Of course you don't. You're just not that good at assessing. You don't even know what I was responding to. "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil ... except where my political enemies* are concerned" is not perspective, Laz-y. And if you think that's descriptive of me, it doesn't make you as insightful as you presume you are. Once again, a double standard is still no standard at all. But you can't help making noise, even over a statement that you'd think even a self-deluded soul might pretend to take to heart. :D

*Or whomever a paranoid mind leads one to believe are such.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 17, 2007, 07:35:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
You don't even know what I was responding to.


I have doubts you yourself know.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 17, 2007, 07:53:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
I have doubts you yourself know.


Expressing your doubt is all well and good but try illustrating what you presume, assume, imagine or desire instead of attempting to wish it into fruition, Laz-y jr. Otherwise it just looks as though your feelings are permanently hurt because I didn't take you as seriously as you desperately wanted. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 17, 2007, 07:57:32 PM
Originally posted by DYNAMITE
   


Mac... you rule!

Vote MAC 2008!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



*sung to Nicklebacks "RockStar"*

I'm not swift in a hopeless boat,
I don't promise health care without a hope.
Never promised many things alot,
But I know what's different than a old flip~flop.

Well we all promise alotsa things,
Just to get that Liberal Political swing.
And we smile laffin at the camera crew,
just to get ya to say woo wooo woooo...

Heyyyy Heyyy I'm yer Next PrezStar...

Obama, Huckabee, Guliani an Hillary,
Edwards fake and Thompson from the ol TV.
Every one lies and even Ron Paul,
They all want your votes just to get along.

Well it's just a cryin sin,
When running Partys gotta fight within.
Answers are all that they really lack,
All you need to do is vote for Mac!

Heyyy Heyyy I'm yer Next PrezStar!

Mac

Vote Mac2008
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: CHECKERS on November 18, 2007, 07:20:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you read/listen closely to Hillary, she's more a republican than a democrat...but only because she's trying to appeal to a wide voter base.


 
 
 
We need a tough, strong president; one who can speak so all us underlings will understand, and one who can give a tongue lashing to foreign dictators of other countries and scare the hell out of them.  We need someone who is devious, can use tough language, look a person in the eye, and tell a convincing lie.
 
Only one person running to be president of the United States at the present time will do the job.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

       Hillary Clinton for President
 
To prove her qualifications, here are some quotes from Mrs. Clinton who is running for President...
"Where is the G-damn f***ing flag?  I want the G-damn f***ing flag up Every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise."
     -From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 - Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991)
"You sold out, you mother f***er!  You sold out!"
     -From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at a Democrat lawyer)
"F**k off!  It's enough that I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!!  Just do your G*damn job and keep your Mouth shut."
     -From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 - Hillary To her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning." )
"You f** *ing idiot"
     -From the book "Crossfire" p. 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event)
"If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing bellybutton over here and Grab those bags!"
     -From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident)
"Get f***ed!  Get the f**k out of my way!!!  Get out of my face!!!"
     -From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to Her Secret Service detail agents.)
"Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me!  Don't come within ten yards of me, or else!  Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?"
     -From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail)
"Where's the miserable c*ck sucker?"
     -From the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 - Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)
"Put this on the ground!  I left my sunglasses in the limo.  I need those Sunglasses. We need to go back!"
     -From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One )
“Son of a *****."
     -From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 - Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq)
"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are Our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"
     -From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the Clinton White House)

"Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't f**k her here!!"
     -From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally.
"You know, I'm going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in.  I'm going to start thinking of her as a human Being" - Hillary Clinton
     -From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan, p. 55)
"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of Choices.... Government has to make those choices for people "
     -From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 20 - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hasert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan )
"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" Hillary in 1996"
     -From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p.6)
 
The religious right say this. "She is an ill-tempered, violent, foul mouthed, hateful and abusive woman who wants to be our president and, as commander-in-chief of our Military, have total control of the very Military for which she has shown incredible disdain throughout her public life. Surely the people of the The United States can easily do better than this."
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 18, 2007, 09:56:44 AM
mt... of course it doesn't follow that a person who reaches a conclussion not of my choosing lacks perspective.   I find it interesting tho that you defend arlo when I accuse him of lacking perspective yet... when he accuses everyone else of lacking perspective you let it slide.

I also find it amusing that arlo... like so many lefties... denies his liberal leftyness.

sheesh.. are you guys just ashamed or simply afraid that people will dismiss you out of hand if you admit to be left wingers?

To me.. most strict believers of one political view or another tend to lack perspective.  That may even include me with my belief of individualism..  Often that belief gains perspective by personal experiance... say.. a lefty gun control nut after a home invasion for instance... or a total right winger after a loved one is sentenced to 10 years in prison for having a little pot.

as far as hillary tho.. like arlo.. she is as far left as she can be... and.. like arlo.. she is afraid to let anyone see it.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 18, 2007, 10:31:16 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I also find it amusing that arlo... like so many lefties... denies his liberal leftyness.

 


Bernard Goldberg discusses this very point in his book "Bias".  He explains that typical (pick a coast) lefties tend to hang out with only other lefties, and they conclude that since most everyone they spend time with thinks as they do, that this must be the how the average American thinks.  They fail to understand that their lack of exposure to a wider range of people leaves them with a vary narrow focus and without the ability to accurately gauge where they are in the political spectrum.

Right wingers tend not to suffer this misconception, and I think we can attribute this to the fact that right wingers are smarter people.  :D :aok :rofl
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 18, 2007, 12:46:17 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
mt... of course it doesn't follow that a person who reaches a conclussion not of my choosing lacks perspective.   I find it interesting tho that you defend arlo when I accuse him of lacking perspective yet... when he accuses everyone else of lacking perspective you let it slide.

I also find it amusing that arlo... like so many lefties... denies his liberal leftyness.

sheesh.. are you guys just ashamed or simply afraid that people will dismiss you out of hand if you admit to be left wingers?

To me.. most strict believers of one political view or another tend to lack perspective.  That may even include me with my belief of individualism..  Often that belief gains perspective by personal experiance... say.. a lefty gun control nut after a home invasion for instance... or a total right winger after a loved one is sentenced to 10 years in prison for having a little pot.

as far as hillary tho.. like arlo.. she is as far left as she can be... and.. like arlo.. she is afraid to let anyone see it.

lazs


I find it amusing that my defense of perspective in general looks to you like a defense of Arlo. Maybe this is a sign of a lack of perspective?

Also. I have never denied nor made a secret of my political leanings.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 18, 2007, 12:56:49 PM
I agree that you have not denied your leanings.   I think that for the most part you are very honest about that.   generalizations.. "most" are just that.  some people don't always fit the mold.

perhaps you were not defending arlo.. it may have simply been the timing or my not understanding what you meant..  print is often worse than speech even for that.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 18, 2007, 03:30:46 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I find it interesting tho that you defend arlo when I accuse him of lacking perspective yet... when he accuses everyone else of lacking perspective you let it slide.


You and a couple of other insecure right-wing extremists do not constitute an "everyone", Laz-y, not even a majority. ;)

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Originally posted by lazs2
I also find it amusing that arlo... like so many lefties... denies his liberal leftyness.


I'm not denying my nature, Laz-y. I'm correcting your misinterpretation. A tactic you rely on to justify your behavior and attitude when, in fact, it invites the forehead slapping you get whenever you brand anyone who disagrees with you anything you see fit to cry about. :D

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Originally posted by lazs2
To me.. most strict believers of one political view or another tend to lack perspective.
 

You could have tried just posting that with an admission and not looked nearly as foolish. :aok

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Originally posted by lazs2

as far as hillary tho ... she is as far left as she can be... and.. like arlo.. she is afraid to let anyone see it.


And you close your case by wrecking it. :lol
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 18, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Right wingers tend not to suffer this misconception, and I think we can attribute this to the fact that right wingers are smarter people.  :D :aok :rofl


Perspective, son. Perspective. It's free, even. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 18, 2007, 03:33:32 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
it may have simply been the timing or my not understanding what you meant..  print is often worse than speech even for that.
 


Guess I'd hafta hear you speak to see if you can pull it off, even then. :)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 19, 2007, 09:14:26 AM
arlo.. I have said (maybe you missed that?)that I may also suffer from a lack of perspective but.. if you had read my views on the war on drugs.. abortion.. seatbelts and helmets and gun control and taxes and free speech and... many other things..

you would see that far from being a neocon right winger.... I am a less wimpy libertarian.. I am an individualist.   my perspective is tainted by that fact.  I am a strong believer in the rights of the individual.   I can't compromise on that.

I find the right wingers try to take my freedom in one way and the lefties another... so far.. the lefties affect me more on a day to day basis.   They intrude more into my real life.    For instance..  I will always want a gun but..  I have very little fear of ever being waterboarded...  I hate paying taxes but.. I don't care if some moron wants to listen to my phone converstation.. serves him right.

Day to day..  big, leftest government is the largest threat to my life.. I vote for the republicans out of a lesser of two evils philosophy.. one of pragmatisism.

I would not vote for any democrat that exists today for national poilitics.. they all tow the party line and the party line stinks for life as I know and want.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2007, 03:11:58 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I the lefties affect me more on a day to day basis.   They intrude more into my real life.


Yeah yeah ... and you see them all around you.

I don't want to take your guns, dude. I don't want you waterboarded. I stood with you laughing at the anti-God crowd fainting over the ten commandments in stone at a courthouse and acting like the word God on the money they spend is the most offensive thing they could imagine. But I stand apart from those laughing at the anti-Muslims thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan. I'm proud of my heritage, the generations before me that fought against Fascism and didn't suffer ocd "socialism is gonna kill us all" paranoia expressed in a bizarre manifistation of hating FDR's guts. And Carter's guts. And Clinton's guts. Therefore justifying hugging their W doll in public 24/7.

And yeah, Yokum "rocks" ... wait, no quotes neccessary .... rocks. So does Aerosmith. So does Glen Miller. So does Mozart.

Capitalism isn't a religion. Neither is socialism. Nor are they mortal enemies. Our forefathers didn't invent capitalism. And they didn't form government exclusively around it. Nor did they manifest a fear of (the yet to be developed) socialism in their ideology.

Poor people don't love being poor. Sick people don't love being sick. Old people don't love being old (though I'm sure they appreciate avoiding the alternative).

I like guns, too. I'm just a bit more honest about it than most. They're fun. They do give a person a sense of power. But if I live in a neighborhood that requires an M-16 to stay alive, I think I can afford to move.

Women don't scare me. Homosexuals don't scare me. Black people don't scare me. Muslims don't scare me. Extremists scare me. Stupid extremists, even more.

You say liberal. I say rational. Hi, I'm some people's political nightmare. An opinionated moderate. No more status quo. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: soda72 on November 19, 2007, 03:31:21 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Hi, I'm some people's political nightmare. An opinionated communist. No
more status quo. :D


:D




Just kidding couldn't resist...


:p
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2007, 03:45:24 PM
Homo :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Bronk on November 19, 2007, 04:24:50 PM
LOL that wasn't very PC arlo.:D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2007, 04:33:04 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
LOL that wasn't very PC arlo.:D


It was a term of endearment to my lover. Do you mind? ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 19, 2007, 05:35:21 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah yeah ... and you see them all around you.

I don't want to take your guns, dude. I don't want you waterboarded. I stood with you laughing at the anti-God crowd fainting over the ten commandments in stone at a courthouse and acting like the word God on the money they spend is the most offensive thing they could imagine. But I stand apart from those laughing at the anti-Muslims thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan. I'm proud of my heritage, the generations before me that fought against Fascism and didn't suffer ocd "socialism is gonna kill us all" paranoia expressed in a bizarre manifistation of hating FDR's guts. And Carter's guts. And Clinton's guts. Therefore justifying hugging their W doll in public 24/7.

And yeah, Yokum "rocks" ... wait, no quotes neccessary .... rocks. So does Aerosmith. So does Glen Miller. So does Mozart.

Capitalism isn't a religion. Neither is socialism. Nor are they mortal enemies. Our forefathers didn't invent capitalism. And they didn't form government exclusively around it. Nor did they manifest a fear of (the yet to be developed) socialism in their ideology.

Poor people don't love being poor. Sick people don't love being sick. Old people don't love being old (though I'm sure they appreciate avoiding the alternative).

I like guns, too. I'm just a bit more honest about it than most. They're fun. They do give a person a sense of power. But if I live in a neighborhood that requires an M-16 to stay alive, I think I can afford to move.

Women don't scare me. Homosexuals don't scare me. Black people don't scare me. Muslims don't scare me. Extremists scare me. Stupid extremists, even more.

You say liberal. I say rational. Hi, I'm some people's political nightmare. An opinionated moderate. No more status quo. :D


Ahhh... a fellow opinionated moderate! HI!!!!!!! :rofl

Although I don't like pokin the poor dears with pointy sticks!

I''ll leave the smack-talk-man-stuff to you guys!

carry on! ;)

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 19, 2007, 06:32:05 PM
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Originally posted by Tigeress
Ahhh... a fellow opinionated moderate! HI!!!!!!! :rofl

Although I don't like pokin the poor dears with pointy sticks!

I''ll leave the smack-talk-man-stuff to you guys!

carry on! ;)

TIGERESS


"But I stand apart from those laughing at the anti-Muslims thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan."

Sheesh. This is what happens after you rewrite a sentence three times in a hurry (being called away to other tasks between) and proof-read too fast.

Alas, there's a time-limit for editing.

Make that:

"But I stand apart from those anti-Muslims laughing and thinking the entire faith of Islam salivates at the thought of burning my children alive to celebrate Ramadan."

Thanks, Tigress!

p.s. *hug* (from a touchy-feely gruffy)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 20, 2007, 08:47:01 AM
arlo.. most socialist lefties like to tell people they are "moderate" so I expected nothing less from you.     It matters not if I need an m16 or a hamburger or porn or whatever.. so long as I don't use it to harm you... none of your "moderate" business.   you can't make one type of gun evil.. it is liberal socialist busybody nonsense.

socialism is evil.   It is indeed a religion.  capitalism is not what this country was founded on.. individualism and individual rights and freedom is what it was founded on and socialism is the enemy of that.

You can't be "moderate" and a socialist.   with one exception... you can be a socialist with not power over anyone else... you can have all the socialist programs in the world.. so long as they are voluntary...  

Get it?  no?   that is called charity.  socialism is not "moderate"  socialism says.. "I think it is a good idea for you to support others who wont or can't so I am going to take your property away to do so.. if you resist.. I will kill you."

How exactly is that a "moderate" stance?

aerosmith sucks.

women or negros (you are calling then black people right?)  or homos don't scare me..  neiter do muslims... so long as they have no power over me.

and that is the rub.. as soon as they have power over my life.. then they are a threat.

I am the true moderate.  I allow everyone to be equal.  The fear comes about when things are taken from for some percieved slight or inequality ...

liberalism is indeed all around us.  PC and hate crimes and affirmative action... all affect us on a daily basis... a form of newspeak..   a most terrible form of socialism and censorship.  

I don't need the government to tell me what are good or bad guns.. or how to talk to people or who I should hire to do a job or what words are acceptable.   I don't need you in my pockets to "help" people.. I have seen how much liberal socialist programs have "helped" people in this country.. the end does not justify the means... the means is all we have.

you are not a moderate in the least unless you are using some scale that starts with marx and end with hillay.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 20, 2007, 03:35:01 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo.. I don't agree with the way you describe yourself based on my own perception but I have this obsessive compulsion to reinterpret what you say and read into it what I want to see so I can justify my personal agenda .... or ....

"I see libruls! *gasp* They're everywhere! *faint* And they're easy to identify cause they're not like me!"

ad nauseum ... rinse and repeat endlessly



Yawn .... phew.

:lol
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: ghi on November 20, 2007, 06:52:35 PM
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 i`m watching US news every evening more than canadian news, and the economy in Ontario and Canada is more dependent of Washington than Otawa, i think this guy is more competent than any other republican and democrat candidate, i hope he is going to run, i would contribuite 500$ for his campaign

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Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 20, 2007, 07:24:07 PM
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 i`m watching US news every evening more than canadian news, and the economy in Ontario and Canada is more dependent of Washington than Otawa, i think this guy is more competent than any other republican and democrat candidate, i hope he is going to run, i would contribuite 500$ for his campaign

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I can't agree, Lou Dobbs is the type to ***** about everything, and I swear his main goal is to attack America, not lead it to anything better.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 20, 2007, 07:28:59 PM
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Dago didn't post this but it makes more sense
I can't agree, Rush Limbaugh is the type to ***** about everything, and I swear his main goal is to attack America, not lead it to anything better.


Seems more like. Perception, I reckon. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 21, 2007, 09:13:12 AM
arlo.. thanks for proving my point... you got nothing but the fake quote and the one liner.

Your thinking is beyond shallow or.. dishonest or both.   You won't say what you think except in broad terms because you are afraid.  afraid people will see the real agenda.   It is far from moderate.  

you won't talk about any issue except in satire because... other than the crappy jon stewart immitation..  you got nothing.. you fear having to back up what you say so you stay as silent as you can while ridiculing select parts of what others say.  sheesh..  at least when stewart has his writers behind him he can be funny.. you have to put smiley faces so that we know you are funny.. who are you trying to convince?

Here is the challenge.. pick a topic and how you feel about it and we will debate.. you mentioned gun control... I am willing to hear what you have to say...

Oh wait... you did quip on in at the militia thread... no substance... anyone surprised?    either you are as empty of thinking as you appear or as afraid of stating what you think as you appear.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 03:04:28 PM
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Dear Lazs,

  Thank you for your wet panties concern over my ability to express myself versus your .... ummmm .... talent .... for such, though I've never had a problem stating my position or speaking my mind. It's always refreshing to see you stuck to my ankle. I know the holidays are a hard time for some. You'll make it through one more Thanksgiving, I'm sure. Just fill yourself a couple of more glasses.

your favorite ankle,

Arlo :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 22, 2007, 02:33:38 AM
Wow Arlo, you could not have illustrated your left bent better if you tried.  You followed exactly the example of the moronic little leftie college kids who would yell and disrupt a conservative trying to give a speech at a college because they didn't agree.

You follow the example: Don't let someone have a say because you don't agree with them.  You just instead change my words to what you want to hear, you can't risk another persons opinion being stated, you would rather restrict their right to free speech.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 22, 2007, 10:39:02 AM
yep... proving my point yet again.    Let's see..  I said he had no substance except a crappy jon stewart imitation and gave him a chance to prove otherwise by picking a topic that he believed in and give us some substance.. to prove he was a "moderate" and not afraid to say what he thinks.

he replies by making a crappy jon stewart imitation reply and avoiding any topic out of fear and lefty dishonesty.

read what he says about gun control... he doesn't think...er.. maybe he doesn't think or.. maybe he does think... oh..yeah.. he thinks that if he NEEDS an m16 to defend himself then he will just run away from that place.

Does that mean that he thinks we should not be allowed to have a stoner designed carbine with select fire?   who knows?   does that mean our rights are based on need? "from each according to their abilty and to each according to their need" sort of thing?

seems so...

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: airguard on November 22, 2007, 12:44:13 PM
intresting post, seems like you Americans have the same intelligent way to post your opinions like us Norwegian.

I usually ask myselve after a campain -> what the *** ??? Never really remembering what the candidates stood up for ??
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 22, 2007, 05:04:05 PM
I get such a kick out of you guys smack-talkin each other! :rofl
It should be classified as an artform!

Arlo, you are a maestro! as are you Lazs and the rest of you guys!

Meanwhile Clinton is rising in the polls.

Never thought I would live to see a woman elected president in my lifetime but it looks like Bush pee-owed enough people to ensure it.

She is, after all, a politician; not an angel. I don't trust the lot, lefties or righties; innies or outies, and that includes her and her husband and the rest of the presidental hopefuls, righties and lefties.

At least with Clinton we will have a lot of entertainment. That will, no doubt, be furtile enough new ground to bring president bashing to a whole new and as yet undiscovered level! :rofl

As Billy Clinton said... "elect me and you get two for the price of one"; guess that still holds.

Shoot she might get to serve two terms with Billy running amock in the white house for 8 more years. :rofl :rofl :rofl

Is it legal for Billy to serve as her Vice-President?

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 22, 2007, 05:24:40 PM
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Originally posted by Tigeress
I get such a kick out of you guys smack-talkin each other! :rofl
It should be classified as an artform!

Arlo, you are a maestro! as are you Lazs and the rest of you guys!

Meanwhile Clinton is rising in the polls.

Never thought I would live to see a woman elected president in my lifetime but it looks like Bush pee-owed enough people to ensure it.

She is, after all, a politician; not an angel. I don't trust the lot, lefties or righties; innies or outies, and that includes her and her husband and the rest of the presidental hopefuls, righties and lefties.

At least with Clinton we will have a lot of entertainment. That will, no doubt, be furtile enough new ground to bring president bashing to a whole new and as yet undiscovered level! :rofl

As Billy Clinton said... "elect me and you get two for the price of one"; guess that still holds.

Shoot she might get to serve two terms with Billy running amock in the white house for 8 more years. :rofl :rofl :rofl

Is it legal for Billy to serve as her Vice-President?

TIGERESS


I don't know what polls you are seeing, but the latest one I saw showed Obama pretty close to equal with her, and another showed him in the lead.

She won't be president.  I am confident of that.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 22, 2007, 09:19:15 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
I don't know what polls you are seeing, but the latest one I saw showed Obama pretty close to equal with her, and another showed him in the lead.

She won't be president.  I am confident of that.


I said the same about Bill in 1992. I'm afraid to say it again. I did see an amusing bumper sticker a couple of days ago. Took me a few seconds to get it. Said:

Reelect Gore 2008

As I passed them on the highway I gave 'em a little "rub".  ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 09:10:22 AM
It looks to me as though Clinton is not wanting to be a full blown Left-Winger; rather a middle of the road Moderate, i.e. a Centerist.

TIGERESS

The below from: --> http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119577999706601663-8aMlEWyJ8qQrkibkHxTdeCqUkac_20071223.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top


THE END GAME
Clinton Hits Rough Patch As Iowa Showdown Nears
Rivals Strike From Left As She Courts Center;

'Responsibility Gene'
By JACKIE CALMES
November 23, 2007; Page A1

BALLSTON, Va. -- As Hillary Clinton huddled with advisers not long ago, she was pressed to stake a position popular with the party's left-leaning voters on one issue. But the presidential front-runner resisted. It wasn't her position.
 
"If I do what you all want me to do, I'll look great for the next couple months," she said, according to one insider's account. "But what if I'm the nominee? I'll be ripped apart by the Republicans. And what if I'm the president? My hands will be tied."

The New York senator's response captured the tension at the core of her 10-month-old presidential bid, and helps illuminate why she has hit a dangerously bumpy stretch as January's first nominating votes near. Sen. Clinton actually is running two campaigns at once -- courting left-leaning Democrats to get the nomination, but mindful even now of maintaining a sufficiently centrist course to withstand Republican attacks and win election next November.

Beyond that, Sen. Clinton views her campaign as a template for her possible presidency. Having witnessed Bill Clinton's early struggles reconciling campaign promises with governing -- and guided by his private advice now -- she knows first hand that what candidates say now for political points can haunt them as president. Close advisers call this caution her "responsibility gene."
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 23, 2007, 09:16:35 AM
She'd be a fool if she didn't. She already has the lefties in her pocket. They aren't likely to switch even for Giuliani. She can only gain by lying about her position.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shuckins on November 23, 2007, 09:20:43 AM
Tigeress, good points.  Bill Clinton's efforts to pass legislation during 1993 pleasing to the more radical elements of the left proved to be disastrous to the democratic party in the Congressional elections of 1994.

The reaction to the Brady Bill, in particular, unseated scores of Democratic congressmen who had voted to support it.  Other issues only compounded the defeat.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 23, 2007, 09:28:00 AM
she can say what she wants but she is an arrogant lefty like none we have ever seen..  she will lose her temper and more and more about her left wing agenda will come out.    I can't believe that anyone would be fooled for any length of time.. into thinking there was the slightest chance that she had changed her stripes and had become a "moderate".

Unless they just wanted to fool themselves that is...   sorta like us thinking that old rudy has changed and "moderated" his views on gun control...  while he is no way near as rabid as hillary...  he is no friend to our rights.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
I am just watching... from the shadows... waiting...

In my view, the Republicans better groom a Moderate as well if they want a nominee to have a chance against another Moderate.

Like I said, I don't trust any of them but someone will be elected and from the looks of it, it will be Clinton.

It boils down to choosing the lesser of two evils, once again, in my opinion.

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 23, 2007, 09:39:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tigeress
It boils down to choosing the lesser of two evils, once again, in my opinion.

TIGERESS


Hmmmm, Bill might challenge Hillary for the evilness title but he can't run. That pretty much makes everyone else a lesser evil imo. One thing I find amusing though, and I'm not accusing you of this Tigeress, is when the lefties tell the righties that they better offer a moderate posistion, as if they would even consider supporting anyone not firmly in their socialist camp.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 09:43:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
Hmmmm, Bill might challenge Hillary for the evilness title but he can't run. That pretty much makes everyone else a lesser evil imo. One thing I find amusing though, and I'm not accusing you of this Tigeress, is when the lefties tell the righties that they better offer a moderate posistion, as if they would even consider supporting anyone not firmly in their socialist camp.


Dear, I am not a lefty nor a righty; I am an honest-to-goodness middle-of-the-roady Moderate... just slightly to the right of center.

If you compiled everything I have ever written on this board you will not find a lefty lurking there! :) That is an absolute fact.

The problem, as I see it, is extremism... both left extremism and right extremism.

The majority of We The People are moderates, so I am nothing special in that regard.

What is unusual is an outspoken Moderate! :)
The left and right hardliners have difficulties with that! :rofl They are used to fighting with each other; not with Moderates.

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 23, 2007, 09:46:44 AM
Nor do I accuse you of being a leftie though your comment reminded me of some of the more vocal lefties insisting that Bush support their socialist agendas even though they wouldn't have dreamed of voting for him.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 09:52:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
Nor do I accuse you of being a leftie though your comment reminded me of some of the more vocal lefties insisting that Bush support their socialist agendas even though they wouldn't have dreamed of voting for him.


mmmm... you should have heard me ranting against the hard left during Bill Clinton's two terms. WOW!

It was as vocal as my ranting against the hard-right of the last almost 7 years! ;)

Imma Moderate... who voted for Bush Sr and Jr.

I have a typical Moderate Ala Cart Agenda with balanced flavors of both blue and red... none extreme.

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 23, 2007, 10:27:01 AM
Bill pressed a very liberal agenda while in office and the lefties yucked it up. His only concession to the right imo was in stopping military gays from flaunting their gayness. Of course this spoiled the lefties and they still suffer under the delusion that every president, whether they voted for him or not, must support their progressive agendas. Soon as Hillary takes office her extremism will be revealed. Maybe Mr. Miyagi was right. "Walk left side of road, ok. Walk right side of road, ok. Walk middle of road, get squashed like bug."   ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 23, 2007, 10:32:57 AM
I've learned that nothing said in here will ever change anyone's mind, however, some statements, although true will inevitably cause spittle to fly and keyboards to crack.

Clinton was the most fiscally conservative President since Kennedy.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 23, 2007, 10:33:22 AM
tigress.. you admit that you got fooled by old bill... that you were ranting on his hard left turn... the fact is that he never strayed from his far left agenda... not once.. he only said he did...  the left lies about being left because they know America hates them and their ideas.

MT may be the most honest lefty on this board and he is not so much as he pretends... the real lefties here all hide and lie about it.  

hillary is worse.   she has an abrasive personality instead of smooth like bill but she has more guile and she may be smarter and.. I am sure she is far more ruthless and less worried about who gets upset..

She will say anything but... just like her husband.. she will go hard left the second she gets the power..  and... she won't be so wishy washy about the polls.. she is a true "the end justifies the means" liberal lefty.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 11:12:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
Bill pressed a very liberal agenda while in office and the lefties yucked it up. His only concession to the right imo was in stopping military gays from flaunting their gayness. Of course this spoiled the lefties and they still suffer under the delusion that every president, whether they voted for him or not, must support their progressive agendas. Soon as Hillary takes office her extremism will be revealed. Maybe Mr. Miyagi was right. "Walk left side of road, ok. Walk right side of road, ok. Walk middle of road, get squashed like bug."   ;)


Didn't Bill support the DOM (Defense of Marriage)?

Mr. Miyagi was cool! If car coming; no be there!

Yes, Moderates agree with certian aspects of both right and left and disagree with certian aspects of both right and left.

We tend to get hammered by both hard-lefties and hard-righties! :rofl
That's Ok!

I remember Rush L. saying "Pick a damn side! Stand for something!"
It fustrated him to no end to contend with Moderates!

He would much rather have a hard-left opponent he could put a "one size fits all" label on.

But the majority of We The People are Moderates, not hardliners ...Not Communists and not Fascists.

TIGERESS
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Tigeress on November 23, 2007, 11:22:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
tigress.. you admit that you got fooled by old bill... that you were ranting on his hard left turn... the fact is that he never strayed from his far left agenda... not once.. he only said he did...  the left lies about being left because they know America hates them and their ideas.

MT may be the most honest lefty on this board and he is not so much as he pretends... the real lefties here all hide and lie about it.  

hillary is worse.   she has an abrasive personality instead of smooth like bill but she has more guile and she may be smarter and.. I am sure she is far more ruthless and less worried about who gets upset..

She will say anything but... just like her husband.. she will go hard left the second she gets the power..  and... she won't be so wishy washy about the polls.. she is a true "the end justifies the means" liberal lefty.

lazs


I never trusted "Slick Willie" for a moment.
But he played a good saxophone!

'Member! I don't trust politicians at all! None of them!

Hillary aggravates me.

I don't like her personality and the fact she didn't throw that cheating husband of her's out on his ear told me loads about her political agenda.

Plus there are serious rumors she was as much a philanderer as Bill was... but with the same sex.

I am waiting for the Republican Party to spring evidence to that end...  but it probably won’t work 'cause she stayed married to Bill.

Best they can do is paint her as a bi-sexual and we all know most men think women who are Bi are ok with them and their three-way fantasies. :rofl :rofl :rofl

TIGERESS

PS: Actually Lazs, I have paid particular attention to your writings as a whole. From what I have seen, you are a right-wing moderate.

From everything I have gathered, you dislike Communism and Fascism as much as I do.

You are just more to the right of center than I am. I am somewhat less concerned about a bit of common-sense socialism here and there, that's the main difference I see.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shamus on November 23, 2007, 02:41:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target


Clinton was the most fiscally conservative President since Kennedy.



Thats the part that blows my mind to this day.

I goofed and voted for GW the first time, about two years into his first term I said to myself "my god we are getting the worst of both words with this guy"

I would compare his fiscal policies to a drunken sailors, but I don't want to disparage drunken sailors.

shamus
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 23, 2007, 02:45:02 PM
Saving money by gutting the military may be fiscally conservative provided you don't then turn around feed at least significant amounts of that money back into social programs which Clinton most definitely did.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shamus on November 23, 2007, 03:23:34 PM
Ya I remember the peace dividend talked about a lot back then, maybe the military didn't need to be as big after the U.S.S.R fell apart, and before all you guys jump on me about 9/11, that was an intelligence failure not a military one.

I do remember Clinton signing welfare reform, that was a huge savings to the budget and still is.

The guy we got in there now really poured huge money into social programs ie: the convoluted senior drug program, one of the biggest boondoggles I have seen.

Nope, we have anything but a conservative occupying 1600 now.

shamus
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 23, 2007, 10:31:56 PM
Plus I think it is unseemly for ya'll to be talking about our next president in such a fashion.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Shamus on November 23, 2007, 11:45:31 PM
Do you think the omnipotent power for the executive branch is going to be be touted by the same folks then?

shamus
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 23, 2007, 11:52:39 PM
I expect there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 24, 2007, 12:03:35 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target

Clinton was the most fiscally conservative President since Kennedy.


Quote
Originally posted by Shamus
Thats the part that blows my mind to this day.

I goofed and voted for GW the first time, about two years into his first term I said to myself "my god we are getting the worst of both words with this guy"

I would compare his fiscal policies to a drunken sailors, but I don't want to disparage drunken sailors.

shamus


Quote
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;  


Why is it that if Congress controls the taxation, borrowing and bill paying that the President is the one who gets credit or blame for the budget deficit?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 24, 2007, 12:29:35 AM
Because unless there is a veto level majority, the president has a huge amount of control over the budget. And it is the executive branch that presents the budget every year.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 24, 2007, 12:56:16 AM
When the President presents his budget, does he ask for the bridges to nowhere and federally funded pottery museums too?  

Vote out congress and we can maybe get change.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: midnight Target on November 24, 2007, 01:21:37 AM
You mean the republican controlled congress that has been in power since 94 and was just "voted out" last year... that congress?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 24, 2007, 03:55:40 AM
No, I mean the 96% of congress that gets re-elected each time regardless of party.

Make a 5th term the exception in the house and a 3rd term in the Senate a rare occurance and we may change the status quo
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AKIron on November 24, 2007, 09:44:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
I expect there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Indeed. Idaho may get crowded.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 24, 2007, 03:13:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
Wow Arlo, you could not have illustrated your left bent better if you tried.  You followed exactly the example of the moronic little leftie college kids who would yell and disrupt a conservative trying to give a speech at a college because they didn't agree.

You follow the example: Don't let someone have a say because you don't agree with them.  You just instead change my words to what you want to hear, you can't risk another persons opinion being stated, you would rather restrict their right to free speech.


Oh geez. You're actually whining about having your "freedom of speech" restricted?

:lol
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 24, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Oh geez. You're actually whining about having your "freedom of speech" restricted?

:lol


No, not at all, but since you are appearing more and more dense, I can spell it out for you if need be.  Just let me know if you need help with your basic comprehension skills, they certainly appear lacking.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 24, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
No, not at all, but since you are appearing more and more dense, I can spell it out for you if need be.  Just let me know if you need help with your basic comprehension skills, they certainly appear lacking.


Thanks for the offer. Let me reply, in kind, with an offer to help you get over your projection and insecurity issues. Repeat after me:

Mongo ... errr .... Dago read more better and not feel threatened. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 29, 2007, 07:06:51 PM
(http://blogmeisterusa.mu.nu/archives/Queen%20Hillary.jpg)
*shivers*
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 07:13:58 PM
Not the scariest photoshop I've seen. *ShruG*

Now this ...

(http://www.bloggerheads.com/images/bush_gift_voucher.jpg)


 ..... that's downright disturbing. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 29, 2007, 07:28:39 PM
Sooooo Arlo it's nice that you have a hobby you like, how many vouchers have you collected so far?

:huh

Mac
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Sooooo Arlo it's nice that you have a hobby you like, how many vouchers have you collected so far?

:huh

Mac


Not my hobby, not my vouchers. Just sharing scary photoshops, man. Isn't that where you were taking this? Got no problem there. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: AWMac on November 29, 2007, 07:32:31 PM
Arlo... Geeez Nancy lighten up.

:)

Mac
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 07:33:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AWMac
Arlo... Geeez Nancy lighten up.

:)

Mac


I'm having fun, ain't you? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Dago on November 29, 2007, 07:48:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
I'm having fun, ain't you? :D


I imagine that doesn't take much more than a ball of yarn to accomplish.
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 08:04:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dago
I imagine that doesn't take much more than a ball of yarn to accomplish.


Nor yours requiring anything more than a bug-zapper and a lawnchair, Jethro. :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Neubob on November 29, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Nor yours requiring anything more than a bug-zapper and a lawnchair, Jethro. :D


Wait just a damned minute... I thought I was Jethro. What gives?
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on November 30, 2007, 08:39:59 AM
neubob.. the left is easily confused and gets mixed up.  

Do you smoke pot?  that will take you out of "jethro" status to them.   Back in the day when the hippies weren't running things...  if you had long hair and did drugs you were good people to them..  bikers confused their simplistic ideals.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on December 01, 2007, 03:34:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Neubob
Wait just a damned minute... I thought I was Jethro. What gives?


It's like the brothers on the Bob Newhart show only more numerous? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on December 01, 2007, 03:39:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
neubob.. the left is easily confused and gets mixed up.  

Do you smoke pot?  that will take you out of "jethro" status to "them."   Back in the day when the hippies weren't running things...  if you had long hair and did drugs you were good people to them..  bikers confused their simplistic ideals.

(And that's how Laz sees things so it's gotta be true. Ahem. Heh.)

lazs


Seeing how presumptuous reasoning and paranoia seem to go hand and hand in Laz's world. ;)
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on December 02, 2007, 11:35:04 AM
by "them", I meant the left and by the left I meant you arlo.

You are every bit as centrous as hillary.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on December 02, 2007, 03:46:47 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
by "them", I meant the left and by the left I meant you arlo.

You are every bit as centrous as hillary.

lazs


Oh hell, Laz. I know what you meant. You're not that good at avoiding transparent bufoonery. I might suggest you figure yourownself out before you convince yourself you know everyone else as "well" as you do. The cost of seeing a shrink certainly won't cut into your gun fund that deeply, eh? :D
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: lazs2 on December 03, 2007, 09:24:42 AM
judging by your penchant for not telling the truth... I would say that you might be a better candidate for a shrink than I.

plus.. I really don't think much of em.

lazs
Title: Hillary, your false face is showing
Post by: Arlo on December 03, 2007, 03:16:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
judging by your penchant for not telling the truth... I would say that you might be a better candidate for a shrink than I.

plus.. I really don't think much of em.

lazs


Not telling the truth? How telepathically lie detector delusional of you. ;):aok