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Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 12, 2007, 12:35:07 PM
Is anyone planning to skin a Mustang from the 55th Fighter Group? We had one before the model updates and it was definately my favorite Pony to fly around..

:aok

http://www.warbirdcollectibles.com/scale-p51d-mustang-miss-marilyn-pi-28.html
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Guppy35 on November 12, 2007, 12:50:36 PM
How bout "Da Quake"

Seems an appropriate name for some of our AH types :)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DaQuakerefined2.jpg)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 12, 2007, 12:56:25 PM
*drools* Nice Dan..

But I definately like the yellow tail the best..
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: USRanger on November 12, 2007, 03:12:30 PM
Both would be very nice additions.:aok
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 12, 2007, 05:12:12 PM
Those where on my list :cool: i will be happy to do a 55th paint IF you guys could give me more pictures :D (yellow tail sounds good!)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 12, 2007, 05:17:06 PM
(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/55g/cy-dbarpro.jpg)
:O
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 12, 2007, 05:40:56 PM
:aok

Of the ones I've seen, I think I like Miss Marilyn II the best.. Yellow tail and red stripe down the side. But that yellow on yellow does look sexy I have to admit..

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1288528/L/
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 13, 2007, 09:10:16 AM
I like her even better, since it has the red line/ yellow tail :)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 13, 2007, 10:36:48 AM
I've looked up those pictures on airliners.net from Miss Velma. It seems to have red colored nose art instead of the green in the picture. Is this accurate?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1287111/M/
Title: some1 say 39th?
Post by: TwinBoom on November 13, 2007, 06:39:32 PM
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/39thCO.jpg)

 (http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/39thFS.jpg)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 16, 2007, 08:49:05 PM
Hey guys i started to work on the Miss Velma. Its way from finished still but, i'd like some advice about the colors.

For some reason im not getting the color i have in photoshop and in the pictures for the nose cone.. can someone explain how to get this right?

I know about the wings and tail not done and all, im just focusing on the colors atm.

(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9884/velma1nz9.jpg)


Mus51
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 16, 2007, 10:47:17 PM
Dude that's lookin' nice!! :aok
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 17, 2007, 12:04:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mus51
Hey guys i started to work on the Miss Velma. Its way from finished still but, i'd like some advice about the colors.

For some reason im not getting the color i have in photoshop and in the pictures for the nose cone.. can someone explain how to get this right?

I

Mus51


From The Warlords, vol. 1....

The green used was very dark, probably the available camouflage shade, US Medium Green 42, or RAF Dark Green.  It has been illustrated somewhat lighter in this book, purely to show that it is green, and avoid confusion with any other groups colorurs

So, the green is reeeealy dark.

And, that yellow demarcation stripe on the fuselage between the NM and green should be red.

Oh yeah, upper horizontal stabs should be the same green as on the fuselage with white ETO bands instead of black.



wrngway
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 17, 2007, 01:46:51 AM
Here are a couple of good shots..

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/751002322_45284a7968_o_d.jpg)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 17, 2007, 01:51:22 AM
And another..

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/1589349206_af69a8373b_o_d.jpg)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 17, 2007, 01:53:09 AM
And I've found my new desktop photo.. :O

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/763820818_33c6c7f86e_o_d.jpg)
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Widewing on November 17, 2007, 08:15:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mus51
Hey guys i started to work on the Miss Velma. Its way from finished still but, i'd like some advice about the colors.

For some reason im not getting the color i have in photoshop and in the pictures for the nose cone.. can someone explain how to get this right?

I know about the wings and tail not done and all, im just focusing on the colors atm.

(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9884/velma1nz9.jpg)


Mus51


It looks good, except for the green checkerboard color, which is incorrect. Here's a photo of Miss Velma (2nd P-51D of that name belonging to Birtciel).

(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Plane%20Photos/343rd%20FS/CY-D%20Miss%20Velma.jpg)

Below is the first Miss Velma.

(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Plane%20Photos/343rd%20FS/CY-A%20Miss%20Velma%20P-51D%2044-13350.jpg)

Here's Elwyn Righetti's P-51 (Eager El was top scorer in the ETO when combining air and ground kills). Note the color of the green checkerboard. I started to do this skin, but stopped when the the number of P-51 skins reached the limit.

(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/KatyDid.jpg)

(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Pilots%20Photos/LtCol%20Elwyn%20G%20Righetti.jpg)

(http://www.station131.co.uk/55th/images/Pilots%20Photos/Righetti%20Elwyn%20G%20LtCol%20and%20Easton.jpg)

My regards,

Widewing
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 17, 2007, 10:21:59 AM
Thanks for the pics, NOVA, widewing! I guess i should work on the real Miss velma then, the only thing that changed is the Miss Velma noseart wich is red now and in war it was green.

Il post a new thread when its nearly done.
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Widewing on November 17, 2007, 11:14:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mus51
Thanks for the pics, NOVA, widewing! I guess i should work on the real Miss velma then, the only thing that changed is the Miss Velma noseart wich is red now and in war it was green.

Il post a new thread when its nearly done.


Yep, all 55th FG nose art lettering was green. I don't know why the warbird owner opted for red. I suppose he didn't do enough research (many of them don't, which explains blue Mustangs).

Also, the stripes on the horizontal stabs were white, not black. Likewise, there were no stripes on the upper surfaces of the wings.

Here's a profile from the 55th Fighter Group history, the 55th Fighter Group Vs the Luftwaffe by Gray, published by Specialty Press....

(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Miss-Velma.jpg)

If you use the link below, you'll find another profile of Miss Velma. This one shows the demarcation stripe as red... It's incorrect. The demarcation stripe color corresponded to the squadron's tail color, which was yellow.

Osprey's Down to Earth, ETO Strafer Aces (http://books.google.com/books?id=iRzk322G7acC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=elwyn+righetti&source=web&ots=yOxzNsCOtc&sig=p7OB7mVg_G5CH0o9LvMQJKtrbgQ#PPA130,M1)

Oh, Righetti had 7.5 air to air kills and 27 strafing kills. Thus his moniker of "King of the strafers". Vulcher extraordinare....

Here's a link (http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2007/06/profile-p51-elwyn-guido-righetti.htm) to a modeler's site that shows Righetti's Mustang and it's nose art to great detail.
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Mus51 on November 18, 2007, 10:03:06 AM
Nice link Widewing, but thats a link to Katydid, but im confused now, do i need to paint the Miss Velma green? or let it how it is right now?
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: Widewing on November 18, 2007, 10:23:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mus51
Nice link Widewing, but thats a link to Katydid, but im confused now, do i need to paint the Miss Velma green? or let it how it is right now?


Miss Velma needs the following to finish it.

Adjust the green checkerboard color. Change the black stripes on the horizontal stabs to white, and eliminate the black stripes on the upper wing surfaces. Other than that, it looks very nice.

The Katydid link is for color reference only.

Oh, and I have another photo of Miss Velma's nose. Should you need it, I can scan it. However, you have it correct now, except for the color. Since the photo is B&W, it won't help you there anyway. There was only minor chipping to Miss Velma's checkerboard, unlike Katydid, which was heavily eroded when Flak knocked it down in April of '45.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: 55th Fighter Group Mustangs
Post by: xNOVAx on November 18, 2007, 10:42:09 AM
Also,

On Miss Velma, It looks like the upper surfaces of the horizontal stabs were olive drab, not bare metal..