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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AWMac on November 12, 2007, 02:05:39 PM
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Vote American in 2008.
<<<<~~~~ Throwin my hat in...
Vote Mac!!! Free America.
It's a write in on the ballot... called: American.
I have solicited no funds. I have just one interest group. You the American.
You can make a difference!
Here's my proposal:
1. We safeguard our borders, North and South, East and West.
Our "National Guard" is just that!
2. Total ellimination of Corporate outsourcing..If you depend upon 3rd World Countries to do American work then you move to that dam Country...yer not American.
3. The UN is outta the USA... send these corrupt bassturds to France or where ever...just get them out, after they pay all their parking tickets.
4. American Education. College is open to all. No tuitions but you still have to pay for books. If you make the grade you made it!
5. We are no longer the Worlds police force. Collect the funds due to the USA from Germany, France and everyone else and pay back to China. There is no longer a Favorite trade Nation. You want to trade with us it's straight across the board!
6. NAFTA is out. It was a dam bad idea to begin with!
7. All ExPresidents are just that... Ex Presidents. So STFU.
8. We rebuild America. Starting with the Farmers, Teachers, Firemen and the Police. Better benifits and increased pay.
9. If you can walk, talk, spell there is a job out there for you. Revamp of the Welfare System. I know sometimes there are circumstances.
10. In GOD We Trust is just that! It's Christmas... NOT Xmas, NOT Seasons Greetings.... You don't like it? Leave.
11. All Medical and Dental are paid from the Goverment. Hell you all paid for it already. Gotta look good and feel good. This is America.
12. Freedom.
For all Americans. If Freedom can not begin at home, where does Democracy begin?
Let Freedom Ring!!!
This is my plan, my Ticket. I don't see either party with one yet.
I'm not rich, if anything I went from poor to maybe middle class. I want no money from you, I just want to see America rebuilt as the same as it was before.
It's "For the People, By the People".
I say raise your Country as you would raise your child. Hug it, Love it and never let go.
I hope this has made you think.
We have had to many Years of non thinking.
Americans have suffered enough.
Lets rebuild out Nation from within.
This was my ticket back in December of '06.
If Ron Paul would like to Join my platform I'd be willing to talk.
It's all for America.
Vote for a Free America, Vote for Mac!
:aok
Mac
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Numbers 1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 12 are good ideas.
As much good as they will do, they will be triply undone by numbers 2, 4, 8, and 11.
No good can come from socialism, regardless of the title and pink tutu you put on it.
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A version of #4 exists in Georgia. If you carry a 3.0 in high school and attend a public uniiversity, the state picks up your instate tuition via a lottery funded scholarship so long as you maintain your 3.0 in college.
Seems like a pretty good deal to me everytime I write out a check to my college loan people that will be payed off about 5 years before I retire.
#8. Our public servants deserve a raise. You can goto the local cities website and look up the jobs and their pay. The starting pay for the garbage truck driver is higher than that of the cop or fire fighter. If it wasn't for the OT firemen get, the pizza delivery guy would make more than them.
#2 can be worked out through interesting tax code. Not too hard to slap a 'corporate outsourcing tax' on companies to encourage them to keep jobs in America.
AS far as #11... I mentioned it in the original thread he posted this. There'd be a net tax increase of 0, possibly a net tax decrease. You'd be trading your current portion of taxes going to welfare for health insurance. Most people on Welfare already get gov't health insurance, if not they jam up the ER and never pay making me pay more anyway. The way I see it, that makes it so I take home more money in my check cause I get to keep the eomployee paid portion of my current health insurance.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Numbers 1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 12 are good ideas.
As much good as they will do, they will be triply undone by numbers 2, 4, 8, and 11.
No good can come from socialism, regardless of the title and pink tutu you put on it.
Who conditioned you to think 2 and 8 have anything remotely to do with socialism?
And 4 could be the G.I. bill. Throw in 2 years mandatory service (military or suitable substitute) and it becomes universal. Think of it as actually "supporting the troops" and not lip service.
11. The "horrible" nationalized healthcare. No good has ever come from it. Other than the citizens of nations who have it are generally less stressed, in better health and not the drag on their national budgets than the critically ill poor who didn't have preventive medicine available their whole life in this country are.
Just think about it before you jump. Eh? :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Who conditioned you to think 2 and 8 have anything remotely to do with socialism?
And 4 could be the G.I. bill. Throw in 2 years mandatory service (military or suitable substitute) and it becomes universal. Think of it as actually "supporting the troops" and not lip service.
11. The "horrible" nationalized healthcare. No good has ever come from it. Other than the citizens of nations who have it are generally less stressed, in better health and not the drag on their national budgets than the critically ill poor who didn't have preventive medicine available their whole life in this country are.
Just think about it before you jump. Eh? :D
Sorry Hillary... what was I thinking?
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Sorry Hillary... what was I thinking?
:D
Mac
I knew you were being facetious, Mac. Lasersailor's hook was crooked, is all. Seems he doesn't like "socialism" for all the wrong reasons. :D
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Kick out 4 & 11 and i could live with it, not perfect but i could deal with it
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Arlo I know that Lasersailor is still a young kid...not really sure of his future yet still a has the inner kid wanting to come out and see the World.
I like how you can pet the cat against it's fur and still want it to purr.
:p
Mac
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Originally posted by Tiger
A version of #4 exists in Georgia. If you carry a 3.0 in high school and attend a public uniiversity, the state picks up your instate tuition via a lottery funded scholarship so long as you maintain your 3.0 in college.
Seems like a pretty good deal to me everytime I write out a check to my college loan people that will be payed off about 5 years before I retire.
#8. Our public servants deserve a raise. You can goto the local cities website and look up the jobs and their pay. The starting pay for the garbage truck driver is higher than that of the cop or fire fighter. If it wasn't for the OT firemen get, the pizza delivery guy would make more than them.
#2 can be worked out through interesting tax code. Not too hard to slap a 'corporate outsourcing tax' on companies to encourage them to keep jobs in America.
AS far as #11... I mentioned it in the original thread he posted this. There'd be a net tax increase of 0, possibly a net tax decrease. You'd be trading your current portion of taxes going to welfare for health insurance. Most people on Welfare already get gov't health insurance, if not they jam up the ER and never pay making me pay more anyway. The way I see it, that makes it so I take home more money in my check cause I get to keep the eomployee paid portion of my current health insurance.
As good of an idea as it seems, any time you remove competition, both for place and money, it is for the detriment of BOTH parties. This explicitly applies for numbers 4, 8 and 11.
Corporations don't outsource for their benefit only. They outsource for YOUR benefit as well. They can choose to stay in america, but at the detriment of the laws of Supply And Demand. For example, say a company stays in America. Their unit costs are at least twice that which an outsourced corporation gets. So bam, instantly the product costs double. Then consider that the corp can only hire half as many people. Suddenly they can only turn out half as much product.
And without batting an eye, the difference between an outsourced product and a non-outsourced product would be a factor of 4 or more.
Also, it isn't a friggin IQ test as to why some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others. No one wants to be a Trashman outright. So they need to raise the wages and benefits to attract people to it.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
Kick out 4 & 11 and i could live with it, not perfect but i could deal with it
I'm here to serve the People....
Give me ideas and suggestions.
It's US that puts the U.S. back together again.
Free America.
:aok
Mac
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
As good of an idea as it seems, any time you remove competition, both for place and money, it is for the detriment of BOTH parties. This explicitly applies for numbers 4, 8 and 11.
Corporations don't outsource for their benefit only. They outsource for YOUR benefit as well. They can choose to stay in america, but at the detriment of the laws of Supply And Demand. For example, say a company stays in America. Their unit costs are at least twice that which an outsourced corporation gets. So bam, instantly the product costs double. Then consider that the corp can only hire half as many people. Suddenly they can only turn out half as much product.
And without batting an eye, the difference between an outsourced product and a non-outsourced product would be a factor of 4 or more.
Also, it isn't a friggin IQ test as to why some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others. No one wants to be a Trashman outright. So they need to raise the wages and benefits to attract people to it.
Hmmmm we eliminated lead in paint just to outsource toys from China to replace chips?
Who is benifitting from the toys?
Name a toy made in America.
Thought so.
Mac
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Corporations don't outsource for their benefit only. They outsource for YOUR benefit as well. They can choose to stay in america, but at the detriment of the laws of Supply And Demand.
Cough, Cough, Bull Chit....
Look into the mirror and say that directly into your eyes.
Mac
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lasersailor... Americans can compete with anyone when we are on a level playing field... with the tax burden in the US, the OSHA regulations, union demands, environmental laws and the absence of slave labor it is hard for Americans to stay in business on a stacked playing field... HOWEVER, should we allow products whose countries violate all of the laws we MUST follow to stock our shelves? HELL NO!
Kick china and india off our damn shelves and DEFINITELY off of our customer support lines - then put illegal mexicans back in mexico - we'll be just fine
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AMEN Mr No Name
:aok
Mac
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2,4,8 & 11
2 is just unrealistic. And if you do #2
How are you planning on paying for 4,8 & 11?
Hell even if you dont do #2 how are you planning on funding these?
As for #5
Rotsa ruck
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
2,4,8 & 11
2 is just unrealistic. And if you do #2
How are you planning on paying for 4,8 & 11?
Hell even if you dont do #2 how are you planning on funding these?
As for #5
Rotsa ruck
We sell New Jersey to Italy, Gino.
:p
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Hmmmm we eliminated lead in paint just to outsource toys from China to replace chips?
Who is benifitting from the toys?
Name a toy made in America.
Thought so.
Mac
http://www.toysmadeinamerica.com/ (http://www.toysmadeinamerica.com/)
Or you can read this partial list
Battleship
Bicycle Playing Cards
Boggle Jr.
Candyland
Chutes and Ladders
Clue
Connect Four
Crayola Crayons *
Life
Louisville Slugger
Monopoly
Mouse Trap
Operation
Parcheesi
Play-Doh *
Pop-O-Matic Trouble
Radio Flyer Discovery Wagon
Scrabble
Sorry
Stratego
Tri-ominos
Trivial Pursuit
Yahtzee
Melissa and Doug U.S.A. Floor Puzzle (Most puzzles are made in the USA!)
* Note: Not all packages of Crayola Crayons and Play-Doh are made in the USA -- please check the label.
Also, anything you buy from the American Plastic Toy Company is made in America.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Corporations don't outsource for their benefit only. They outsource for YOUR benefit as well. They can choose to stay in america, but at the detriment of the laws of Supply And Demand.
Suggest you study what "supply and demand" means. It has nothing to do with benefitting the customer.
Originally posted by lasersailor184 Also, it isn't a friggin IQ test as to why some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others.
Heh. Ummmm ... are you sure you passed that non-existant IQ test? ;)
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And Play-Doh, Bicycle Playing Cards is NOT even a toy...
Battleship
Bicycle Playing Cards
Boggle Jr.
Candyland
Chutes and Ladders
Clue
Connect Four
Crayola Crayons *
Life
Louisville Slugger
Monopoly
Mouse Trap
Operation
Parcheesi
Play-Doh *
Pop-O-Matic Trouble
Radio Flyer Discovery Wagon
Scrabble
Sorry
Stratego
Tri-ominos
Trivial Pursuit
Yahtzee
Melissa and Doug U.S.A. Floor Puzzle (Most puzzles are made in the USA!)
* Note: Not all packages of Crayola Crayons and Play-Doh are made in the USA -- please check the label.
Also, anything you buy from the American Plastic Toy Company is made in America.
Then HELL... this is what I'm giving for Christmas.
I bet your kids would LOVE the same too.
Mac
*Which of your kids are gonna place YOU in a Nursing Home?*
WTF??? Crap NOT one thing even after 1968... Frikken Nixon!!!
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check New Balance Shoes and you will learn how to make a better shoe at a competitive price using american labor and technology.
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Originally posted by AWMac
We sell New Jersey to Italy, Gino.
:p
Mac
India would be a better choice.
Might as well they've infested us like cockroaches.
Oh well.
At least they're legal and get jobs
Only one problem with selling Jersey off.
Your price of gasoline would go up
Sell off New York instead.
Its the most over rated publuc dump of a state in the nation and they have no refineries
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Holy crap I musta been livin in Candy Land aiming at Chutes and Ladders.
Sorry I had no Clue but that is Life once the toy Monopoly is a sunk Battleship in the Yahtzee Operation.
In my Trivial Pursuit I Scrabble'd for a dizzy sense of Stratego when I should have reached for my Lousville Slugger.
Next time I'll call my friends Melissa and Doug, my Mexican friends Tri-ominos and spring a Mouse Trap!
Wouldn't that just be Parcheesi?
:O
Mac
Stick your Bicycle playing cards into your spokes while you drag your Radio Flyer behind ya and Play~Doh!!!
That would just Boggle my Crayolas and ummm be Pop-O-Matic!.
Did I miss one?
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Originally posted by AWMac
Holy crap I musta been livin in Candy Land aiming at Chutes and Ladders.
Sorry I had no Clue but that is Life once the toy Monopoly is a sunk Battleship in the Yahtzee.
In my Trivial Pursuit I Scrabble'd for a dizzy sense of Stratego when I should have reached for my Lousville Slugger.
Next time I'll call my friends Melissa and Doug, my Mexican friends Tri-ominos a spring a Mouse Trap!
Wouldn't that just be Parcheesi?
:O
Mac
WTFU *Wake the F Up*
you said to name a toy that was made in America.
As though it couldnt be done.
So I did ;)
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A REAL Toy.... less than 25~30 Years old... Hell.
Mac
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Dred, Dude... Nuns have a better Toy box than you.
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Dred, Dude... Nuns have a better Toy box than you.
:D
Mac
Not Alabama nuns.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Not Alabama nuns.
:rofl
Mac
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Please do NOT attempt to hijack this Presidential Bid thread.
This is for America.
Thank You,
:aok
Mac
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Is it ok if I add "This Bud's for you?"
(http://www.albany.edu/~sw6300/pot-leaf-big.jpg)
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Originally posted by Arlo
Is it ok if I add "This Bud's for you?"
(http://www.albany.edu/~sw6300/pot-leaf-big.jpg)
"Please support the American Disability Act" and help those like Arlo.
Please... a Post is a Terrible thing to Waste!.
:p
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
"Please support the American Disability Act" and help those who like Arlo. I like Arlo.
Please... a thread is a terrible thing to waste!.
:p
Mac
Fixed. :D
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that's not a "bud", bud.
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Originally posted by john9001
that's not a "bud", bud.
Why no. It's not, bud. I'm not as intimately familiar as some. You know us "hippies." :D
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Originally posted by AWMac
Dred, Dude... Nuns have a better Toy box than you.
:D
Mac
LOL
how little you must know about kids.
Try this experiment
Get your kid the nicest most expencive toy you THINK they will like.
then also put out en empty refridgerator box.
At the end of the week see which one gets played with more.
9 out of 10 times the cardboard box wins
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
LOL
how little you must know about kids.
Try this experiment
Get your kid the nicest most expencive toy you THINK they will like.
then also put out en empty refridgerator box.
At the end of the week see which one gets played with more.
9 out of 10 times the cardboard box wins
Is it an American made cardboard box?
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sheesh.. are you still trying to pitch your socialist agenda mac? every few months you post the same old lefty liberal crap.
I really don't see how you would be much of an improvement over hillary.
lazs
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
lasersailor... Americans can compete with anyone when we are on a level playing field... with the tax burden in the US, the OSHA regulations, union demands, environmental laws and the absence of slave labor it is hard for Americans to stay in business on a stacked playing field... HOWEVER, should we allow products whose countries violate all of the laws we MUST follow to stock our shelves? HELL NO!
Kick china and india off our damn shelves and DEFINITELY off of our customer support lines - then put illegal mexicans back in mexico - we'll be just fine
You WERE on the right track. The solution to fix companies outsourcing isn't banning those that outsource, but keep them here. Offer tax breaks, incentives, get rid of unions...
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It's like deja vu all over again:
again (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=208623&highlight=xmas)
and again (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201239&highlight=xmas)
and again (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=195483&highlight=xmas)
and...again. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=194308&highlight=xmas)
Just punt one of your old threads in Feb 2008.
Funny thing is the same people reply to you with the same arguments and polispeak. Good bait :)
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Originally posted by lazs2
sheesh.. are you still trying to pitch your socialist agenda mac? every few months you post the same old lefty liberal crap.
I really don't see how you would be much of an improvement over hillary.
lazs
He looks better in a dress?
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12. Freedom.
Is in direct contradiction with (at least):
2. Total ellimination of Corporate outsourcing..If you depend upon 3rd World Countries to do American work then you move to that dam Country...yer not American.
7. All ExPresidents are just that... Ex Presidents. So STFU.
10. In GOD We Trust is just that! It's Christmas... NOT Xmas, NOT Seasons Greetings.... You don't like it? Leave.
11. All Medical and Dental are paid from the Goverment. Hell you all paid for it already. Gotta look good and feel good. This is America.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You WERE on the right track. The solution to fix companies outsourcing isn't banning those that outsource, but keep them here. Offer tax breaks, incentives, get rid of unions...
Additional rewards and breaks for laying off Americans and outsourcing abroad? You're just getting better and better. Throw that "looking out for the American consumer" schtick again. Just where do you think the American consumer lives? Well, not on your planet evidently.
I'm still chuckling over your logic on this:
"some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others."
:D :aok
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xmas does not mean what you think it means.
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp
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Originally posted by Arlo
Additional rewards and breaks for laying off Americans and outsourcing abroad? You're just getting better and better. Throw that "looking out for the American consumer" schtick again. Just where do you think the American consumer lives? Well, not on your planet evidently.
I'm still chuckling over your logic on this:
"some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others."
:D :aok
Are you saying that I'm wrong when I say that most people don't want to be Trashmen?
I said there should be additional rewards and breaks for staying in America. The key to equalization is not to ban those that do better, but to not hold back those that are doing worse.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Are you saying that I'm wrong when I say that most people don't want to be Trashmen?
I said there should be additional rewards and breaks for staying in America. The key to equalization is not to ban those that do better, but to not hold back those that are doing worse.
I'm saying you're clueless about the relationship of demand and pay.
And yeah, you said that the companies that lay off American workers to contract abroad for profit should be rewarded with tax breaks and incentives for doing so to "equalize." Equalize what? You're brain's wired backwards. Must be agenda conditioning .... which would further explain why my country suffers fools for CEOs and politicians (many of whom claim to be fiscally "conservative"), lately.
Wasn't always that way. *sigh*
Welp. Thanks for giving us the "doesn't take an I.Q. test" perspective. :D
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For all you Kalifornicators doing the hand jive...
one word for you..
Pelosi
eat that!
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
For all you Kalifornicators doing the hand jive...
one word for you..
Pelosi
eat that!
:D
Mac
Oh so you have found your running mate?
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Originally posted by lazs2
sheesh.. are you still trying to pitch your socialist agenda mac? every few months you post the same old lefty liberal crap.
I really don't see how you would be much of an improvement over hillary.
lazs
Dammm every few Months?
Socialist agenda old lefty crap?
Holy Jebus...
Hillary
Edwards
Obama
McCain
Thompson
Guiliani
Romney
And just where do I fit in between the assshats Lazs?
Wait you are a better answer to the problem.
Instead of biyatchin about the problem try and fix it....
Otherwise just STFU and vote yer Party.
Just like someone from Kalifornia to say watermelon like that.
Mac
Running mate?
Ron Paul
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I just laff at the fact that YOU live in California.
:D
Mac
BTW I'm a hard right wing Reagan Republican.
WORD
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Originally posted by AWMac
I just laff at the fact that YOU live in California.
:D
Mac
BTW I'm a hard right wing Reagan Republican.
WORD
You being from Oklahoma, I am impressed you can spell California. I won't defend California politics either. Other then that, California is a great place to live. We don't have Tornadoes, though we do have the trailer parks.
;)
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
We don't have Tornadoes, though we do have the trailer parks, endless fires, landslides .....
;)
:D
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Originally posted by Arlo
:D
Thats just the ****ty parts of the state no one likes, I assume they are much like Oklahoma. Though it all has indoor plumbing.
Those of us in the good parts hardly notice that stuff.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Thats just the ****ty parts of the state no one likes, I assume they are much like Oklahoma. Though it all has indoor plumbing.
Those of us in the good parts hardly notice that stuff.
Argh. Next you'll tell me you walk the streets of Bakersfield. ;)
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Originally posted by Arlo
Argh. Next you'll tell me you walk the streets of Bakersfield. ;)
I drove through that ****hole once....Thats still the bad part.
It starts getting better around Santa Barbara, as you go north.:D
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Thats just the ****ty parts of the state no one likes, I assume they are much like Oklahoma. Though it all has indoor plumbing.
Those of us in the good parts hardly notice that stuff.
I take it you've never been to Oklahoma.
We can leave our doors unlocked, cars unlocked and the kids bikes in the front yard...
Can you do that in California?
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
I take it you've never been to Oklahoma.
We can leave our doors unlocked, cars unlocked and the kids bikes in the front yard...
Can you do that in California?
:D
Mac
Sure ya can...
Dead...
Mexicans driving your cars...
Bikes in the Pawn Shop...
:O
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Originally posted by AWMac
I take it you've never been to Oklahoma.
We can leave our doors unlocked, cars unlocked and the kids bikes in the front yard...
Can you do that in California?
:D
Mac
My dad used to leave the keys in the ignition of his truck in the neighborhood I grew up in. If I lived there I still would.
We all know the truth on why you don't lock the doors in Oklahomo though, it's cause you can't figure out how to use the keys. :rofl
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Now that was funny....
:p
We still leave doors unlocked. Can you?
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Caaaaaaaalifornia where the wind goes sweeping through the valley .....
:D
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Oklahoma <--- Smart enough to put out a grass fire.
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
I take it you've never been to Oklahoma.
We can leave our doors unlocked, cars unlocked and the kids bikes in the front yard...
Can you do that in California?
:D
Mac
Yes.
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Originally posted by Arlo
I'm saying you're clueless about the relationship of demand and pay.
And yeah, you said that the companies that lay off American workers to contract abroad for profit should be rewarded with tax breaks and incentives for doing so to "equalize." Equalize what? You're brain's wired backwards. Must be agenda conditioning .... which would further explain why my country suffers fools for CEOs and politicians (many of whom claim to be fiscally "conservative"), lately.
Wasn't always that way. *sigh*
Welp. Thanks for giving us the "doesn't take an I.Q. test" perspective. :D
Clueless or not, you still have not said whether I'm right or wrong.
My writing may not have been very definitive considering I'm studying engineering, but anyone breaking triple digit IQ's could easily figure out what I was saying.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Clueless or not, you still have not said whether I'm right or wrong.
Yes ... I have. But if you need it hammered in. You're wrong.
Originally posted by lasersailor184
My writing may not have been very definitive considering I'm studying engineering, but anyone breaking triple digit IQ's could easily figure out what I was saying.
Oh, I figured it out, ok. Not so certain you have, yet .... engineer. ;)
(Any true blue fiscal conservatives in the thread wanna help explain it to l-sailor?) :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yes ... I have. But if you need it hammered in. You're wrong.
Oh, I figured it out, ok. Not so certain you have, yet .... engineer. ;)
(Any true blue fiscal conservatives in the thread wanna help explain it to l-sailor?) :D
So I'm wrong in saying that in order to attract applicants to a job that the applicants don't really want to do, they need to offer more money?
I said that companies should have their taxes lessened and rewarded more for keeping their production in America.
It's a bit embarrassing that I had to spell it out for you. But, don't be too hard on yourself, there needs to be some people who can't crack triple digit IQ's to make the rest of us seem at least somewhat intelligent.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
So I'm wrong in saying that in order to attract applicants to a job that the applicants don't really want to do, they need to offer more money?
"Also, it isn't a friggin IQ test as to why some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others."
A "job that's in less demand" means a job employers aren't in much need of. Not "a job that the applicants don't really want to do." ;)
Originally posted by lasersailor184
I said that companies should have their taxes lessened and rewarded more for keeping their production in America.
"The solution to fix companies outsourcing isn't banning those that outsource, but keep them here. Offer tax breaks, incentives, get rid of unions... "
(So, if your latest revision is what you really meant then, you're right, you're not very good at expressing yourself. But you really shouldn't rely on the triple digit I.Q. of the reader to make up for the faults of the writer.)
Heh. :aok
Originally posted by lasersailor184
It's a bit embarrassing that I had to spell it out for you. But, don't think too hard on yourself, there needs to be some people who can't crack triple digit IQ's to make the rest of us seem at least somewhat intelligent.
Please stop "embarrassing" me so much ...... for your own sake, kid. :D
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Originally posted by Arlo
"Also, it isn't a friggin IQ test as to why some jobs pay better then others. This is because they are in less demand than others."
A "job that's in less demand" means a job employers aren't in much need of. Not "a job that the applicants don't really want to do." ;)
"The solution to fix companies outsourcing isn't banning those that outsource, but keep them here. Offer tax breaks, incentives, get rid of unions... "
Heh. :aok
Please stop "embarrassing" me so much ...... for your own sake, kid. :D
A job "In less demand" means that the employees do not wish to take it. I'm sorry, from now on I'll have my lawyers write whatever I wish when you're concerned. Perhaps then, you won't have to think.
While I may have been ambiguous concerning supply and demand in that I haven't clearly spelled it out to you through lawyer speak, song, interpretive dance numbers, and telletubbie speak, what I said concerning outsourcing isn't able to be interpreted any way but one.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Mongo mad Mongo made fun of for acting like Mongo.
*sigh*
Probably the only thing worse than misplaced pride is stupid pride.
Good luck with that, kid. :D
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
A job "In less demand" means that the employees do not wish to take it. I'm sorry, from now on I'll have my lawyers write whatever I wish when you're concerned. Perhaps then, you won't have to think.
While I may have been ambiguous concerning supply and demand in that I haven't clearly spelled it out to you through lawyer speak, song, interpretive dance numbers, and telletubbie speak, what I said concerning outsourcing isn't able to be interpreted any way but one.
In the real world people take jobs they don't want to do all the time. Because they can't find something better or have bills to pay or mouths to feed. Supply and demand has little to do with it, cause in lots of places the demand for a good job is for outnumbered by the need for one.
There are areas that youre competing with many other people with the same skills, and finding a job can be a *****.
If you think your degree is going to protect you from that your sadly mistaken Laser.(It wont hurt, either but it is no guarantee of a job)
The real world is going to be a big shock for you.
If you interview at all like you act on this board youre going to have trouble finding work. No one is impressed with kids right out of school. Especially ones who think they know it all.
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I want to vote for Ross Perot again.
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Originally posted by ded
I want to vote for Ross Perot again.
:rofl
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mac... you really don't remember posting the same crap socialist agenda drivel over and over?
and yeah.. it is lefty drivel with some right wing stuff thrown in.. you take the worst of both.
you have the lefty socialism of a hillary and the facism of the worst neocon panderer all in the same. your items are all the worst of both worlds.
All I see in your platform is stronger government telling more and more people what to do and taking away more of their rights.
lazs
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Originally posted by Arlo
Argh. Next you'll tell me you walk the streets of Bakersfield. ;)
Check my sig :lol
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I drove through that ****hole once....Thats still the bad part.
It starts getting better around Santa Barbara, as you go north.:D
I'd actually agree with you, except you are too close to Oakland for my taste. Keep going North, Oregon Border/ North of that.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Oklahoma <--- Smart enough to put out a grass fire.
:D
Mac
It helps' slow down the Illegals-Why do you think the fires' are always in Southern Cali? :lol
Actually Mac, you have a half-decent platform. But I wonder about you, now-If you want to get into politics, it's just to screw the rest of us over???
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Check my sig :lol
:D (Nothing personal against Bakersfield ... honest)
(Says a Dwight Yokum fan)
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arlo.. if you are a dwight fan then there is one thing about you that is not a total waste.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo.. if you are a dwight fan then there is one thing about you that is not a total waste.
lazs
At least, Laz. I try to keep an open mind and I'm fairly observant. But I won't bother searching archives so it may take me awhile to see the same in you. :D
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arlo.. cutsie and curt are not the same as "open minded and observant"
you come off as shallow and arrogant. You are quick with some quip but dodge out as fast as you can when asked for your opinion. the one exception I have seen was your movie review of thin red line.
It is easy to simply make fun of some point or another of someone elses post.. especially if you never open up.
But... even being careful to dodge.. the dodge itself and the things you attack are telling. you are a lefty. I have no idea of why you are being dishonest about it. The usual reasons lefties are like that probly apply tho.
lazs
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
It helps' slow down the Illegals-Why do you think the fires' are always in Southern Cali? :lol
Actually Mac, you have a half-decent platform. But I wonder about you, now-If you want to get into politics, it's just to screw the rest of us over???
No Frode... I've seen to many people screwed over in my life and would never do that.
If I was elected it would be for the American people. Better education, Immigration laws, secured borders, health care, less taxes and bringing home American jobs for Americans.
The American people need a break from these two party thugs and bring back America. I just want to save the Country I love. The Dems and Repubs have given away so much of America and for what? Nothing. It's not fair to our Elder Americans...struggling to make ends meet from day to day... It's not fair to our Young Americans struggling to reach an Educational goal and become Americas new Leaders. Educational Growth and Heath care are very important to you and I, our children and our parents and grandparents.
As a President I'd work for you and at no cost. I've ate my share of Mac and Cheese. Just give me a sandwich with a bowl of tomato soup and lunch is done... Maybe some pork chops for dinner... Hell I can cook my own food too.
I'm not in it for the money. Money corrupts. Look at both of the Political Partys over all these years. Nothing but false promises and corruption!
I'd make Congress, Senate and the House of Reps on both sides work actually 40+ hours a day. Hell I've worked longer days than some of them have worked in a weeks time. If you're voted in to a position by the People then you owe it to work for the People! Lets see if Govt elected reps would endure pay cuts and still represent the people. My guess is NO they'd haul bellybutton outta there.
Just ask your elected rep what they do on a weekly basis... it would take more that 6 Months for them to get back to you... yet they have time for fundraisers, golf, trips...err information juantas with staff to far away places at your expense.
Just what is your expense anymore?
Mac
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Originally posted by lazs2
mac... you really don't remember posting the same crap socialist agenda drivel over and over?
and yeah.. it is lefty drivel with some right wing stuff thrown in.. you take the worst of both.
you have the lefty socialism of a hillary and the facism of the worst neocon panderer all in the same. your items are all the worst of both worlds.
All I see in your platform is stronger government telling more and more people what to do and taking away more of their rights.
lazs
lazs I guess I hit a good button within you. Tell me lazs what changes you'd like to see for America?
I hope this didn't scare you off..I mean you'd actually have to think of something.
LOL Lefty socialism? Son for the most part of my life I was a strong Republican Right Winger. I loved Reagan and even liked Ross Perot. I admire Abraham Lincoln and Kennedy also. I support the Constitution and believe in America. Yet I fear the likes of Nixon and I still belive Carter is lame. Ford was a great President as was FDR.
You fear change because Americans can make a difference.
Now the button I pushed on you is the one that you can't visualize a change. Change scares the crap out of you. You're afraid of change and if anyone mentions change you feel as though someone just pissed into your Wheaties... Lazs get past the spoon and the milk, past the yellow in the bowl that the Two Party System has handed you day after day, year after year. What you have left is old soaggy Wheaties lazs. That needs to change.
Change will happen lazs.
Mac
BTW the rights of Americans will never be lost. You just need to learn your rights and defend them! Your rights are nothing I could ever take away lazs. Your fears are just your own.
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Originally posted by AWMac
No Frode... I've seen to many people screwed over in my life and would never do that.
If I was elected it would be for the American people. Better education, Immigration laws, secured borders, health care, less taxes and bringing home American jobs for Americans.
The American people need a break from these two party thugs and bring back America. I just want to save the Country I love. The Dems and Repubs have given away so much of America and for what? Nothing. It's not fair to our Elder Americans...struggling to make ends meet from day to day... It's not fair to our Young Americans struggling to reach an Educational goal and become Americas new Leaders. Educational Growth and Heath care are very important to you and I, our children and our parents and grandparents.
As a President I'd work for you and at no cost. I've ate my share of Mac and Cheese. Just give me a sandwich with a bowl of tomato soup and lunch is done... Maybe some pork chops for dinner... Hell I can cook my own food too.
I'm not in it for the money. Money corrupts. Look at both of the Political Partys over all these years. Nothing but false promises and corruption!
I'd make Congress, Senate and the House of Reps on both sides work actually 40+ hours a day. Hell I've worked longer days than some of them have worked in a weeks time. If you're voted in to a position by the People then you owe it to work for the People! Lets see if Govt elected reps would endure pay cuts and still represent the people. My guess is NO they'd haul bellybutton outta there.
Just ask your elected rep what they do on a weekly basis... it would take more that 6 Months for them to get back to you... yet they have time for fundraisers, golf, trips...err information juantas with staff to far away places at your expense.
Just what is your expense anymore?
Mac
My answer: :aok
I was kidding about my post that led to this, btw. It will be hard, at best, though, for someone from mainstream America to break into politics without the connections' that most politicos' have, though. They screen carefully for those that will uphold the status quo, rather than radical change(that might affect their hegemony, that is.)
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I hear ya.
Well the Coke I've had came from a bottle or a can.
Any bones hidden in my closet came from my dog.
I am short 5'6 RedHeaded with freckles Retired Army. I hope that isn't a problem.
:)
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
I hear ya.
Well the Coke I've had came from a bottle or a can.
Any bones hidden in my closet came from my dog.
I am short 5'6 RedHeaded with freckles Retired Army. I hope that isn't a problem.
:)
Mac
It's not a problem to most any of us here, Mac. The real fight is breaking into the political arena, with anything short of an actual armed conflict on U.S. soil (Revolution, anyone?) I'm talking about the ensconsed power-base of career politicians' already in this country. They don't want anyone from the 'outside' to rock they're boat...They might get treated like criminals, or something! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo.. cutsie and curt are not the same as "open minded and observant"
you come off as shallow and arrogant. You are quick with some quip but dodge out as fast as you can when asked for your opinion. the one exception I have seen was your movie review of thin red line.
Well hell, Laz, with you starting to find exception after exception while highlighting our supposed identical personality flaws it's no wonder you act all petulant and surly at the mere mention of my name. :D
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
It's not a problem to most any of us here, Mac. The real fight is breaking into the political arena, with anything short of an actual armed conflict on U.S. soil (Revolution, anyone?) I'm talking about the ensconsed power-base of career politicians' already in this country. They don't want anyone from the 'outside' to rock they're boat...They might get treated like criminals, or something! :rolleyes:
Awww Children of the "Politico Korn".
Those that are born with a lieing mouth on their silver spoon?
Revolution? and Free America?
:D
Mac
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arlo.. how I feel about things and why is never in doubt.. only you and now mac seem to think so. I think I spend a great deal of time explaining exactly how I feel about things and what would be my solutions.
mac.. your ideas would increase taxes more that even "the great society" that LBJ scumbag came up with.
my platform would be almost identical to ron pauls. I would make for less taxes by getting rid of most government services... you would increase them.
Tell me... how are you going to decrease taxes and increase giveaways?
I would want a voucher system to start.. then I would do away with free public schools altogether once taxes were pretty much eliminated. You could pay for private school out of the money you saved in taxes.
I would first arrest all employers who hired illegals and then... try to do away with benifiets for everyone. no government handouts. No social security.. no welfare.. no free or food unless it is from some charity.
lazs