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Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Phaser11 on November 12, 2007, 03:03:56 PM
What will you do if the highest court says we cannot own firearms? Will you give them up? Will you become one of the bad guys? Will you be one of the good guys?

Answer as you really feel you would act.  Here are the two answers
1. Turn them in and be a good guy.
2. Keep them and be a bad guy.

Phasers answer.

I have been a good guy all my life. Am I ready to be a bad guy? I have to protect my family and I know for a fact the police cannot. They cannot be everywhere at once. So....

I'll keep them and be a bad guy and I'll teach my children to be bad guys also. My god look what I will become. :(

Freedom really has a high cost.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: acfireguy26 on November 12, 2007, 03:05:50 PM
I will be a bad guy. It will also be the beginning of a Revolution.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 03:06:56 PM
I don't believe the court will rule on whether the constitution intended the 2nd for individuals or not. If I'm wrong and they do, it will be in favor of individual rights. If I'm wrong twice, it will be the beginning of the end of our government.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Airscrew on November 12, 2007, 03:09:34 PM
"We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."
-In the Continental Congress just before signing
the Declaration of Independence, 1776.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Tiger on November 12, 2007, 03:15:06 PM
Many laws don't apply where I live.  I'm so far out, it'd take the police 30 mins to get to me even if I had a Bat-Signal lit up to show the way and offered a free dozen donuts per cop.

A ban of guns would be the last thing on my local or state agenda.  I'm pretty sure the last report I saw listed nearly 90% of our legislative officials as gun owners.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Airscrew on November 12, 2007, 03:25:24 PM
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Originally posted by Tiger
Many laws don't apply where I live.  I'm so far out, it'd take the police 30 mins to get to me even if I had a Bat-Signal lit up to show the way and offered a free dozen donuts per cop.

A ban of guns would be the last thing on my local or state agenda.  I'm pretty sure the last report I saw listed nearly 90% of our legislative officials as gun owners.

Think Prohibition, think 100's of federal officers with nothing better to do than search everyhouse, neighbors turning in neighbors just to get even with them for some percieved wrong...personally I dont see it happening but if it did I guess that it will be contested by some states and there would be a loophole by which the state could just establish a State Militia and every gun owner could signup and say they are militia,  when in turn would create a whole bunch of new regulations and taxes, fees and such, more fustration...
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 12, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
As hard as I try, I cannot see the gun ban coming down from the supreme court.



However, I am almost sure it will come from Congress, especially if congress is democratically controlled with a democrat in the White House.


That's not necessarily a bad thing.  I think it's about time to clean house.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Phaser11 on November 12, 2007, 03:38:06 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
As hard as I try, I cannot see the gun ban coming down from the supreme court.



However, I am almost sure it will come from Congress, especially if congress is democratically controlled with a democrat in the White House.


That's not necessarily a bad thing.  I think it's about time to clean house.


So Laser sir, are you going to be a good guy or bad guy?
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: lasersailor184 on November 12, 2007, 03:41:15 PM
I guess that depends ultimately if we win the revolution or not.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Airscrew on November 12, 2007, 03:52:20 PM
no guesses....

two answers.black and white, no grey... the Supreme Courts decides private ownership of firearms is not covered by the Constitution (unlikely, but I like the question) After much wrangling in Congress a bill is passed giving gunowners 90 days to turn in weapons to local law enforcement, (remember the gold coinage in the 30's Mr Roosevelt?)
so you have 90 days to comply with the new law...

Either you turn them in

Or
You dont turn them in....

your answer is?
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
Anyone willing to turn theirs in based on that scenario doesn't deserve to have one.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: FBplmmr on November 12, 2007, 04:12:29 PM
there's an old war movie( i have forgotten who is in it)

but a fella trains some native islanders to defend themselves against  the Japanese.

In the end they are asked what they would like and the chief says :

"our freedom, and guns so that we may keep it"
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Curval on November 12, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
Within 24 hours of this being announced I would expect reports of an incident in Dixon.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Within 24 hours of this being announced I would expect reports of an incident in Dixon.


I think you'll hear of incidents in a few more places as well. Lazs just thinks white people don't know how to put on a good riot.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Hornet33 on November 12, 2007, 04:22:33 PM
They can have mine when they pry them from my cold dead fingers, and you can bet I'm not going alone into the afterlife.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: AKIron on November 12, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
It would be very foolish of the progressives to make a move that would motivate us frogs to jump out of the pot. All they need to do is keep control of the schools and within a generation or two they can "teach" guns away with little resistance. Their impatience may be their undoing.
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Post by: nirvana on November 12, 2007, 04:42:17 PM
Simple, I'd keep them.  If that makes me a "bad guy" then bring it on.
Title: Thoughts
Post by: TalonX on November 12, 2007, 05:46:51 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I don't believe the court will rule on whether the constitution intended the 2nd for individuals or not. If I'm wrong and they do, it will be in favor of individual rights. If I'm wrong twice, it will be the beginning of the end of our government.


Agreed...all one has to do is read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers.  Yes, they argued about the wording of the 2nd Amendment.  That said, they BOTH favored gun ownership by individual citizens.   Look at the times, most every owned guns...they weren't suggesting they all turn them in then, or ever......  In fact, they feared that the final wording would be misunderstood.  Many favored a more simple Amendment... "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed".   They bastardized it by trying to ADD the right to a civilian militia......one armed as the government was armed, to assure no dictatorships evolved.  We would have been better served with two separate amendments, accomplishing the two goals, rather than the one size fits all approach.

The infringments to gun ownership are unconstitutional.   Too many have stood by and allowed the erosion of this sacred right.

Let it end here.

I wouldn't turn in anything they couldn't take from me.  They can't take away this right.  Period.

Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Meatwad on November 12, 2007, 05:53:56 PM
I'll be a bad guy.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Jackal1 on November 12, 2007, 05:57:22 PM
It`s not a good guy/bad guy scenario as described. It` a no brainer.
When and if such a thing like this should happen, the government would be making an attempt to take complete control. In such a case they have become the enemy.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Toad on November 12, 2007, 06:02:51 PM
Well, I look at it a little differently. I'd be a good guy and keep my guns.

The bad guys would be the guys trying to take the guns and trying to erase our Constitutional rights.

I'd probably move to one of the militia states, like Idaho, and get ready for the ultimate resolution of the question of whether the government serves the people or simply rules them.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: SD67 on November 12, 2007, 07:25:33 PM
A while back we had a bit of a tragedy occur when a nutter strolled into a busy little tourist town and opened up.
Now Oz already had tighter gun controls than the US, or it it likely that the situation may not have been as bad. [personal view]The way this guy calmly walked around shooting people allowed any person holding a firearm the opportunity to end the situation then and there, quickly and decisively.[/personal view]
After this incident, our illustrious King Johnny decided it would be just better off if we didn't have any guns at all.
All automatic weapons were outlawed, stricter controls were placed on pistol ownership. Now the only people with ready access to firearms are either law enforcement and some security personell, military or criminals. Outside of the military, guess who has the more guns?
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2007, 07:28:09 PM
Yep, I'd keep em.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Mr No Name on November 12, 2007, 08:39:00 PM
I'm Keeping Mine!  The congress wont try to take them away though... the way things are going, the damned chinese will.
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: midnight Target on November 12, 2007, 08:53:57 PM
I would slash those boogie men with my light saber!
Title: All Kidding Aside
Post by: Slash27 on November 12, 2007, 10:33:12 PM
My stance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4)














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