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Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 12, 2007, 08:12:50 PM
I was hoping to get started on a DGS film, but unfortuneately, I'm having film problems, so I thought I could practice some more on video editing with this footage I had taken last week.
  Well, I was in the Main Arena when I decided to run fraps and see what I could capture that night.  I ran into a yak9t while I was in a Ki61.  It was a fun fight.  Nothing special other than we both had fun.  I can't seem to remember who the yak pilot was.  It was a fun fight and I was able to capture it 30 seconds at a time.

Thanks Bmathis for helping me earlier today.  

Hope you enjoy the fighting part of the film.

LGM Presents...

Paradigm (http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/Paradigm.zip)
File Size: ~27Mb
Length: 3 minutes
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: PaddyD on November 12, 2007, 09:21:28 PM
Great film, with a message many people in AH really need to learn.

Impressive enough for me to actually feel the need to post (something that has never up till now happened).

Great job!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: MjTalon on November 12, 2007, 09:38:57 PM
Great film Kermit :aok  That film is making me miss AH even more :( You had me on the end of my monitor with a boner of who was gonna get the angel shot first :O


Another great vid :aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Wolf14 on November 12, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
I like the tunes
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Raptor on November 12, 2007, 11:14:31 PM
What song is that in the background?
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: BMathis on November 12, 2007, 11:16:36 PM
Dam, I cannot download that. I thing I need a file download program. It stops halfway... :confused:
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: JB11 on November 13, 2007, 12:28:41 AM
Very nice!!! :aok
:cool:
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: parin on November 13, 2007, 02:53:53 AM
well done:aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 13, 2007, 07:29:33 AM
sweet.

you must have a pretty darn good computer to run fraps and still get the frame rate to fly.

S!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: BMathis on November 13, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
I MUST now get that full version of fraps. Lol...

That was the best film I've ever seen posted on here. Great Music, wonderful visual effects (Blurs, etc), and awsome sounds. Not to mention your encapsilating messages to the viewers... Just Amazing Kerm!


I usually have my aircrafts sound down durring game play. Did you turn it up for tht fight? Or was that pulled from your sound files, and laid on top?

<> Bud, Cant wait for the next one.

Mathis
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: TEXAS20 on November 13, 2007, 12:28:04 PM
WOW  GREAT music.....keeps you on the edge of your seat:aok :aok :aok :aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Gianlupo on November 13, 2007, 04:58:50 PM
Great job, Kermit, very nice movie. I liked the sounds you have, what sound pack is that?
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: DoNKeY on November 13, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
Yeah I also want to know what music that was that you used.

donkey
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: betty on November 13, 2007, 08:02:14 PM
once again awsome job kermy!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: USRanger on November 13, 2007, 09:32:31 PM
Excellent job Kermit!
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8068/avatar3571yu2.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 14, 2007, 12:33:54 AM
Nice pic USRanger!  :lol

Music I used was:
Music: Track 10 "The Citrine Cross"
Soundtrack from the Movie The Da Vinci Code.
Game sounds from Waffle's Sound Pack.

I added a few sounds but most of what you hear is from the game.  You can actually hear the different pitches in the engine due to the throttle constantly being adjusted throughout the fight.  You can also hear that Yak's gun as he tries to nail me in my head!  If you have a subwoofer, it's more noticable that way.

The weather effect turned out good as well.

Thanks for the responses, glad to help with those withdrawals JB11 and it's cool to get your first post PaddyD. :)

This one was another fun one to make.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: DoNKeY on November 14, 2007, 01:43:19 AM
I really loved this movie, for what people said, its message, and just for the plain old fun action!

15/10  Great job!


donkey

PS: Make more, and that can be my Christmas present!:aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Latrobe on November 14, 2007, 02:36:53 AM
Awesome film Kermit!! Excellent music too!

(got my dad the 300 soundtrack for christmas. Can't wait to hear that music!)
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 14, 2007, 04:47:29 AM
Agent360,
I recorded at a resolution of 1360x768.
I then cropped the video to 852x480.  By cropping, I mean I am cutting out some video, not resizing it.
I then render the film at 852x480 (24fps, less frames per second means more data per frame, which means better quality per frame)
Codec: Windows Media Video 9 Professional Constant Bit Rate of 1.5Mbps (2 pass).  2 passes makes a big difference in improving the quality when using a low data rate.
Audio is regular 192kbps stereo 48khz sample rate.

Sony Vegas 5.0 was used to edit the film.

You can always download from microsoft, their program that will encode video files to their codec.  It's highly detailed and I'd recommend it if you are going to be using Windows Movie Maker.  WMM doesn't allow many custome options for rendering.  Be aware that encoding encoded files too many times will hurt the image quality.

Hope this helps.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Agent360 on November 14, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
Thanks Kermit,

Great film.


What is "fraps"?

Did you adjust your video settings to record at that resolution or is this what "fraps" does.

edit -  I looked it up. http://www.fraps.com

Only works in windows vista. I have xp.

It makes great game videos though.

S!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 14, 2007, 02:11:19 PM
http://www.fraps.com

Free version allows you to record 30 seconds at a time and it also put's it's name overlaid on all recordings at the very top.  Run the software in the background and setup the software before using it.  It's very simple to use.

I used the free version to make this film.  I recently purchased the software for $37 for future use.

More of your questions can be found at their website.

Game runs at 1360x768, so fraps will record at that resolution.  (You can tell it to record at 1/2 of your current resolution if your computer is too slow to record at full res.)

Edit:
It works for Windows XP too.  Trust me, you misread their information.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Husky01 on November 14, 2007, 02:27:25 PM
Kermi how did you crop the film down from what you recorded in game so there was no text buffer etc.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: UNIstrut on November 14, 2007, 02:37:12 PM
Awesome Film Kermit. Enjoyed every second of it.

UNI.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Blue on November 14, 2007, 03:11:27 PM
Pretty Damn COOL!!! Were gonna have to talk about getting me set up to do some film work too.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 14, 2007, 08:39:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Husky01
Kermi how did you crop the film down from what you recorded in game so there was no text buffer etc.


Goldy, if you want to do cropping with WMM, I can not tell you how to do it since I don't know much about that program.  I used a crop tool in Vegas.  

Windows Media Encoder (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5691ba02-e496-465a-bba9-b2f1182cdf24&displaylang=en)

In the past, I used this to encode and crop files.  It's a very non-user friendly program and it took me awhile to get it to work.  I'm sure there are other programs that are more user friendly to work with.  It's free to download, assuming you have a legitimate copy of WinXP on your machine.  PM me or start a new thread if you need further help.  I'm sure you will have more questions after downloading the program.  I'll help ya out.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Husky01 on November 14, 2007, 08:52:11 PM
Id get Vegas but Im poor haha.  I wish I could afford it though. Thanks for the link kermi Ill see what I can do. O also Ill send you a PM tomorrow with the orders from DGS as you requested since it is taking so long for the forums to open.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 15, 2007, 12:41:48 AM
Thanks Husky.

(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/Paradigm%20Poster.jpg)

Here's a quick Poster for the film.  If you haven't downloaded it, use that pic to get a glimps of the video quality.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Roscoroo on November 15, 2007, 01:26:04 AM
sweet fight .

Um the hard blackout , was that ur actual dark time or edited ?

(I stay dark that long and im lights out for 30+ secs )
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: FBplmmr on November 15, 2007, 04:40:44 PM
great job!!!:aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Denholm on November 16, 2007, 08:28:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Agent360
Only works in windows vista. I have xp.

I managed to get it to work on my system before, and I have Windows 2000.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: daddog on November 16, 2007, 01:04:58 PM
Kermit that was excellent! I REALLY enjoyed it.

What is the music from?
What kind of system do you have?
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: clerick on November 16, 2007, 02:02:21 PM
Bravo!  Well done.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 16, 2007, 04:16:05 PM
hey kermit, thanks for the tips on 2 pass rendering, really helped me out

S!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Angry Samoan on November 16, 2007, 08:20:56 PM
Great job

Froggy knows best!!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: SD67 on November 17, 2007, 08:27:27 PM
do you use trackIR?
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Gianlupo on November 18, 2007, 05:20:18 AM
Yep, he has it.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Shauny on November 18, 2007, 11:49:43 PM
Kermit will you have my babies?
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 19, 2007, 11:39:55 PM
How much?
:D
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: betty on November 20, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shauny
Kermit will you have my babies?




NICE AVATAR SHAUNY! RAINBOW WARRIORS REPRESENTIN???
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: REP0MAN on November 25, 2007, 02:47:31 PM
Absolutely fantastic Kermit!

Commercial I say, Commercial!

:aok
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Denholm on November 26, 2007, 12:20:05 PM
I agree that parts should be used in an upcoming commercial, sadly HTC uses .ahf footage only.:(
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 28, 2007, 11:25:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
I agree that parts should be used in an upcoming commercial, sadly HTC uses .ahf footage only.:(



I don't think that's true.  HTC has asked before in the past for avi files in a certain format and resolution.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: clerick on November 28, 2007, 11:44:07 PM
I'm pretty sure the current footage, by sanjini(?) is shot using trackIR, so it wouldn't be .AHF.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Denholm on November 29, 2007, 10:22:26 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kermit de frog
I don't think that's true.  HTC has asked before in the past for avi files in a certain format and resolution.

Never saw that, I just remember for the last three commercials they wanted .ahf footage.

And yes, Sanjini made that film. However it's been so long since I've seen it that I didn't realize he used TrackIR.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: clerick on November 29, 2007, 03:29:46 PM
I just watched it again and it looks like there may be a mix of footage from .ahf and maybe fraps.  The views in the gunner position seem to be TrackIR.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 30, 2007, 03:31:28 AM
I never recorded it with AH doing the Alt+R thing.  It was just a normal fight with someone in the Main Arena.

Somtimes I wonder if I don't tell people how it's made, that it will make it more like magic, but then if I don't share the info, then others won't share their tricks to film making.  I figure if I can help someone else, then maybe I can enjoy a film by someone else as well.


Edit:
Nevermind, I think Clerick is talking about another film.


2nd edit:
No problem finky, I'm glad I've been able to figure out how to do a 2 pass encoding.  I've tried to do it over the years and it's always been difficult, until recently.  New technologies makes stuff simple sometimes.

Now, if only my next film, whatever it may be, can just be as good...
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Fulmar on November 30, 2007, 08:33:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kermit de frog

Windows Media Encoder (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5691ba02-e496-465a-bba9-b2f1182cdf24&displaylang=en)

In the past, I used this to encode and crop files.  It's a very non-user friendly program and it took me awhile to get it to work.  I'm sure there are other programs that are more user friendly to work with.  It's free to download, assuming you have a legitimate copy of WinXP on your machine.  PM me or start a new thread if you need further help.  I'm sure you will have more questions after downloading the program.  I'll help ya out.


I can't quite recall if I used the Media Encoder for the WMV conversion, or if I did it straight through vegas when I did my film.  Either way, one was faster than the other.  I've made game movies for years now have preferred WMV over Divx or Xvid.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Denholm on November 30, 2007, 08:44:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kermit de frog
...Edit:
Nevermind, I think Clerick is talking about another film...

Yes, he is talking about the film on the main page of Aces High made by Sanjini. "Luftwaffe Guncams"
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Gianlupo on December 01, 2007, 10:06:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
Yes, he is talking about the film on the main page of Aces High made by Sanjini. "Luftwaffe Guncams"


I'm afraid he's confusing it with the old AH commercial, the one made by Waffle. Sanjini's movie has no gunners shot in it, it's just guncam shots in black and white. You still can see it clicking on the link on the Main page.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Viking on December 01, 2007, 10:36:19 AM
Very nice!

Like I said in the General Discussion forum:


Quote
Originally posted by Viking
Very nicely made indeed, and an important message to the community.

If I have to comment on one thing it must be the use of the old models. Not so important for the Yak, but the cockpit of the Ki kind of ruins the visual aspect of the film. The smoothness and flow of motion, especially with Track IR does much to make up for it though.

Kermit!
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Sled on December 13, 2007, 07:30:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by USRanger
Excellent job Kermit!
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8068/avatar3571yu2.gif) (http://imageshack.us)


Kermits next avatar I bet.

Very nice film , and philosophical too.

I feel the message of the film is lost on most.

I believe in the "message" of the film, but I will still take my fair share of "cheap" kills. Cherries, B&Z, the occasional vulch. If the odds are really against me, I will even take some HO shots.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: BMathis on February 12, 2008, 09:46:54 AM
UP! I had too :D
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Hedworx on February 12, 2008, 12:01:56 PM
I guess the DGS film has been cancelled due to production costs and the writers strike. :(
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Denholm on February 12, 2008, 01:39:15 PM
That's an odd way of looking at it.:lol
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Post by: toastman on February 12, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
great movie, I loved the music.
Title: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Niros on February 13, 2008, 08:56:59 AM
Great film .. great fight.
I liked especialy the image quality.


Title: Re: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: JB88 on April 09, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
odd. can't seem to find the link.

 :cry
Title: Re: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: Kermit de frog on April 09, 2008, 10:52:10 PM
The New forum code put a line through the original link, here's the link without the line running through it:

LGM Presents...

Paradigm (http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/Paradigm.zip)
File Size: ~27Mb
Length: 3 minutes

Title: Re: LGM Films Presents... Paradigm
Post by: ATC1 on April 10, 2008, 05:51:49 PM
Agree, a very nice mov with action and music for dramatic effects  :salute