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Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: soda72 on November 16, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
Ok, does anyone believe surfer dude has done it?  


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311952,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311952,00.html)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 16, 2007, 05:14:07 PM
Just a cursory glance, but it looks like in eqn. 2.3, term 5-3, the sign in the numerator is negative but should be positive.
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: forHIM on November 16, 2007, 05:58:27 PM
I always like a theory that includes 20 imaginary points out of 248.
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Tac on November 16, 2007, 06:14:12 PM
Incredible.

Snippet from Lisi's presentation
 
"All fields of the standard model and gravity are unified as an E8 principal bundle connection. A non-compact real form of the E8 Lie algebra has G2 and F4 subalgebras which break down to strong su(3), electroweak su(2) x u(1), gravitational so(3,1), the frame-Higgs, and three generations of fermions related by triality. The interactions and dynamics of these 1-form and Grassmann valued parts of an E8 superconnection are described by the curvature and action over a four dimensional base manifold."

and the Lie8 itself is impressive as well

Lie (pronounced Lee) groups were invented by 19th-century Norwegian mathematician Sophus Lie in his study of symmetrical objects, especially spheres, and differential calculus.

The E8 group, which dates to 1887, is the most complicated Lie group, with 248 dimensions, and was long considered impossible to solve.

"To say what precisely it is is something even many mathematicians can't understand," said Jeffrey Adams, the project's leader and a math professor at the University of Maryland.

The problem's proof, announced Monday at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, took the researchers four years to find. It involves about 60 times as much data as the Human Genome Project.

When stored in highly compressed form on a computer hard drive, the solution takes up 60 gigabytes

.....

The solution was presented by MIT's David Vogan in a talk entitled, "The Character Table for E8, or How We Wrote Down a 453,060 x 453,060 Matrix and Found Happiness."


How it all ties together:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHw9zcCvRQ
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: soda72 on November 16, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
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Originally posted by Tac
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-xHw9zcCvRQ


good vid...

:)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Yeager on November 16, 2007, 07:00:06 PM
The search for grand unification is truly a search for perfection, beyond the universe...fully a whole step above it.  Here you will find the creator, nestled in an armchair sipping on a cup of hot chocolate.  Perfection, I believe, is the only truly unattainable quantity to not be known, forever.

We silly human beings strive for it because it is simply put, unattainable.

Nice try though :aok
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Tac on November 16, 2007, 07:03:49 PM
look at the last comment in the youtube video about the shape of the Lie8.

Proof that the almighty is Jewish lol.
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Donzo on November 16, 2007, 07:05:33 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Here you will find the creator, nestled in an armchair sipping on a cup of hot chocolate.


Or the architect ;)

(http://www.donzo.com/AH/matrixreloaded63.jpg)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Ripsnort on November 16, 2007, 07:25:12 PM
No doubt that's it! I saw it on a good acid trip in the 70's!
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: AKIron on November 16, 2007, 07:29:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
No doubt that's it! I saw it on a good acid trip in the 70's!


Technology brings ya the same enlightenment but without the paranoia, or the munchies. Create your own reality. :D

http://www.zefrank.com/dtoy_vs_byokal/
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Ripsnort on November 16, 2007, 07:49:58 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Technology brings ya the same enlightenment but without the paranoia, or the munchies. Create your own reality. :D

http://www.zefrank.com/dtoy_vs_byokal/

Ha! Sent that to my youngest boy's email, he's now experience on his PC visually what I did physically. :rofl :aok
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: AKIron on November 16, 2007, 08:08:08 PM
If you right click the "scope" you can zoom in.
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: moot on November 17, 2007, 02:25:28 AM
Inside the head of a surfer genius. (http://sifter.org/~aglisi/bookmarks.html).

Edit- Oops!  He had a pretty extensive list of cool math and physics links... as well as personal credit card and porn links :D
I can mirror the non-private stuff to anyone curious.
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: crockett on November 17, 2007, 02:58:52 AM
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Originally posted by forHIM
I always like a theory that includes 20 imaginary points out of 248.


Well that's exactlly what it still called a "theory", they can't prove everything yet. Once they prove or disprove that the points exist or don't. Well then it's no longer a "theory".

;)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: trax1 on November 17, 2007, 01:13:23 PM
Well hopefully they'll find the 20 missing particles when they turn on the "Large Hadron Collider" thats beneath the Swiss/French border at Geneva.  Those of you that have never heard about this project should look into it, it's pretty amazing, it's the largest particle accelerator ever made, it's being built 100 meters under ground in a 16.5 miles(27km) circular tunnel, it's due to be finnished in 2008, it's the largest scientific experiment ever built.  If you want to read more about it check out it's homepage, I suggest you do, it's pretty cool.

http://www.lhc.ac.uk/index.html
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: AKIron on November 17, 2007, 01:39:12 PM
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Originally posted by trax1
Well hopefully they'll find the 20 missing particles when they turn on the "Large Hadron Collider" thats beneath the Swiss/French border at Geneva.  Those of you that have never heard about this project should look into it, it's pretty amazing, it's the largest particle accelerator ever made, it's being built 100 meters under ground in a 16.5 miles(27km) circular tunnel, it's due to be finnished in 2008, it's the largest scientific experiment ever built.  If you want to read more about it check out it's homepage, I suggest you do, it's pretty cool.

http://www.lhc.ac.uk/index.html


Looks kewl but they're playing with fire. ;)

(http://data1.blog.de/blog/f/fz1-3do/img/Image8_05.jpg)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: Tac on November 17, 2007, 01:43:15 PM
ooh oldie game ANOTHER WORLD. :)
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: moot on November 18, 2007, 12:50:45 AM
I just replayed it.. Couldn't believe it was that short!
Title: Grand Unified Theory, look out Einstein
Post by: texasmom on November 18, 2007, 02:42:44 AM
=) nice, thanks trax ~ I didn't see or wouldn't have even posted that other.