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Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: shamroc on November 19, 2007, 09:14:19 AM
http://www.break.com/index/plane-nearly-crashes.html

Yak at an airshow does what looks to be impossible - far exceeds sane angle of attack yet somehow avoids augering....  What do you guys think ?  Is this even possible ?  What do you real-life pilots out there think ?

Shamroc
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: WaRLoCkL on November 19, 2007, 09:17:19 AM
Looks very possible to me, but I bet the Pilot needs a new pear of underwear because u can tell that was totally not planned.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: SirLoin on November 19, 2007, 09:18:44 AM
He flew through ground effect,lucky to be alive...bet u he had a brown stain on the canopy after he did that roll.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: sunfan1121 on November 19, 2007, 10:00:13 AM
he prolly trimmed his prop to give more lift
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: FiLtH on November 19, 2007, 10:17:00 AM
" The Yak factory also produces the ahhhh........the Yak factory also produces the.." LOL
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: BaldEagl on November 19, 2007, 10:24:12 AM
Looked like he almost scrubbed the deck.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 19, 2007, 10:42:05 AM
cool vid sham!

but wow, i liked the Matrix Deer more

!!

http://www.break.com/index/deer_from_the_matrix.html
Title: Re: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: dedalos on November 19, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
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Originally posted by shamroc
http://www.break.com/index/plane-nearly-crashes.html

Yak at an airshow does what looks to be impossible - far exceeds sane angle of attack yet somehow avoids augering....  What do you guys think ?  Is this even possible ?  What do you real-life pilots out there think ?

Shamroc


Net lag or he is a cable puller :furious
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Golfer on November 19, 2007, 10:58:01 AM
Fink that's a normal reaction of a deer to a bow shot.  I've had more than one duck an arrow, in fact had two get out of the way just last week.  :furious

Then I commited a cardinal sin and shot (what I didn't know to be) a split arrow at hands down the biggest buck I'd ever had the privilege of seeing.  30 yards, the arrow came off pitching up and down wildly landing about 5 yards in front of the deer (which translates into about 8-10 feet LOW from my treestand) which walked away up the hill laughing at me.

I took a look at the arrow and it had a fracture down the shaft.  I now actually inspect the arrow before using it...

and I bought some new arrows.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Latrobe on November 19, 2007, 10:58:06 AM
There's a brown stain in the cockpit after than, and a green on the bottom of the plane :lol  . That was cloooose.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: VWE on November 19, 2007, 11:06:08 AM
Its an optical illusion, that airfield has an elevation change that you cannot see from the angle it is being filmed, there is a valley beyond the viewing stands. The airfield is in Bealeton, Virginia...
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Avaro on November 19, 2007, 11:14:47 AM
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Originally posted by VWE
Its an optical illusion, that airfield has an elevation change that you cannot see from the angle it is being filmed, there is a valley beyond the viewing stands. The airfield is in Bealeton, Virginia...


I agree. Good eye!:aok
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 19, 2007, 11:28:24 AM
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Originally posted by Golfer
Fink that's a normal reaction of a deer to a bow shot.  I've had more than one duck an arrow, in fact had two get out of the way just last week.  :furious

Then I commited a cardinal sin and shot (what I didn't know to be) a split arrow at hands down the biggest buck I'd ever had the privilege of seeing.  30 yards, the arrow came off pitching up and down wildly landing about 5 yards in front of the deer (which translates into about 8-10 feet LOW from my treestand) which walked away up the hill laughing at me.

I took a look at the arrow and it had a fracture down the shaft.  I now actually inspect the arrow before using it...

and I bought some new arrows.



hehe rgr that golfer, i have never been able to hunt deer in the UK.

split arrows? man that must suck when you only get one shot on the target.

i thought the clip sounded like a crossbow, although i'm no expert so i concede that point right off. thanks for the post, i never knew deer had reactions that good.

[/hijack]
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Golfer on November 19, 2007, 11:39:31 AM
It's hard to tell with the audio recording though I think it sounds more like a conventional compound bow rather than a crossbow.  Crossbows (I have one) have all made a "twang" which was absent.  That bow sounded very noisy so it makes me think it's most likely a lower end compound bow without a lot of "goodies" on it to help keep quiet.

String Leeches, quality cams and limbs all go a long way into keeping bows quiet.  You can hardly hear mine beyond a few feet and if you didn't expect it you might think to yourself "What was that" for the split second before impact.

That still doesn't stop deer from ducking an arrow.  They're amazing animals and the more time I've spent in the woods (I've been deer hunting since I was 7, bagged my first one at 8) the more respect they earn.  They'll jump an 8 foot fence like it's not even there.  They'll leap over a 30+ foot drop and keep right on running.  They'll also run over a hundred yards without a heart and/or lungs.  Amazing (and delicious) creatures!  I know that they're not given enough respect even by those who hunt them.  I'll lose respect for anyone who refers to them as "little [bastages]" in the context of a hunt.  When they're eating your flowers, apples or killing your trees by rubbing their antlers on them it's another story...then they ARE little bastards :)
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 19, 2007, 11:46:32 AM
yes it was noisey which made me think crossbow, obviously youre right about a compund setup being noisey. i make my own longbows, hardly profesionaly, but enough to kill for certain, and they are the essance of stealth when fired. i havnt fired a compound bow for years.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: 1K3 on November 19, 2007, 11:50:33 AM
The "ground effect" sure helped the pilot.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: SlapShot on November 19, 2007, 12:03:28 PM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
hehe rgr that golfer, i have never been able to hunt deer in the UK.


else you would have to join Robin Hood and his merry band of men in Sherwood Forest for shooting the Kings/Queens deer.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 19, 2007, 12:15:11 PM
dude you ever notice how many merry men there was and how few maid mariens? plus most of them wear tights.

no thanks!
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: NoBaddy on November 19, 2007, 12:18:54 PM
I think he is a cable pulling warper!!! He warped right through the ground!!!:D
Title: Re: Re: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: shamroc on November 19, 2007, 01:38:23 PM
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Originally posted by dedalos
Net lag or he is a cable puller :furious


LOL that's the best explanation I've heard - I'll email the clip to HTC :rofl

Shamroc
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: BaldEagl on November 19, 2007, 02:44:06 PM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
plus most of them wear tights.


Thought that's what all you Brits did...  ;) ;) , nudge,nudge.

:)
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 19, 2007, 02:57:03 PM
all depends on how much money you are willing to pay bald :p
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Hornet33 on November 19, 2007, 04:13:52 PM
Here's an almost auger of a French Rafale.

French Rafale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnwBVhN1wtY)
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: USRanger on November 19, 2007, 09:37:52 PM
Shamroc's made me hold my breath.
Hornet's was just plain cool!
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Relorian on November 19, 2007, 10:40:03 PM
If its an illusion cause by the field, the video sure doesnt show it. If it wasnt, that guy has a brown stain down to the seats metal pan.
Title: Is this film doctored ?
Post by: Avaro on November 19, 2007, 11:18:48 PM
If you look closely as he's appears to be a split second from the ground pause the video. When you do so you'll see he's near a ditch (big ol' hole?).

Close call none the least, but he had room.

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/591/17551484cm4.jpg)

Let It be known this is about 2sec after the near collision.