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Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: jack666 on November 19, 2007, 02:25:17 PM
Last night I decided to see if I could get my B-17 to produce contrails
behind it (the engines exhaust condensing and making white trails)
like this picture

(http://[IMG]http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/hayden_666/b17-contrails.jpg)[/IMG]


but nothing happened, it would be helpful if Aces High would make an authenticating patch to fix to any errors in the game or to add any useful thoughts by current players of the game.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Cypher on November 19, 2007, 02:30:17 PM
If i remember right we don't have this due to frame rate issues.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: PanosGR on November 19, 2007, 02:45:02 PM
There are contrails in IL2 :o


Ooops sorry forbiden word. I mean there are contrails in other flight sims
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Karnak on November 19, 2007, 03:03:06 PM
Il-2 is in no way a forbidden word or reference.

Yes, other games have them and they'd be nice to see.  HTC aims to include lower end computers than Maddox does though.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: dBeav on November 19, 2007, 03:09:02 PM
European Air War has them  (circa 1998)
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Toad on November 19, 2007, 03:19:24 PM
They are actually a function of temperature rather than just altitude. So, do you want an entire weather aspect to the programming? Because contrails will form at different alts (temperature will vary at a given altitude from day to day for example) depending on the temperature at various altitudes on that day.

What does it really add to the game? IMO, not much. It'd be a waste of bandwidth IMO, especially considering we mostly have radar.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Nilsen on November 19, 2007, 03:32:34 PM
If buff drivers want to go to 25k then they have earned the right to be somewhat harder to spot. Ill still climb and pluck them down though.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Motherland on November 19, 2007, 03:37:32 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Il-2 is in no way a forbidden word or reference.

Yes, other games have them and they'd be nice to see.  HTC aims to include lower end computers than Maddox does though.
:rofl
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: TwentyFo on November 19, 2007, 06:03:16 PM
So if you bomber pilots get your contrails, then what?
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: 1Boner on November 19, 2007, 06:21:40 PM
Noooooks!!

Indestructable bombers!!

Easier bomb sights!!

And fighters that can only shoot marshmallows above 15k.





Am I asking for 2 much?

Boner


oh yeah--and a B-58 hustler
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: sgt203 on November 19, 2007, 06:29:46 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: ded on November 19, 2007, 08:16:18 PM
I would be happy if we could get some better bomb load outs for the mossie.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: lagger86 on November 19, 2007, 08:31:04 PM
you know the government uses contrails to rain down mind control chemicals. This has not been proven, but one time a jet flew over my house leaving a nice stream and I went inside and made some nachos.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Nilsen on November 20, 2007, 01:11:44 AM
Must have been Mexican Airways flight then..
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: sgt203 on November 20, 2007, 01:39:16 AM
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Originally posted by lagger86
you know the government uses contrails to rain down mind control chemicals. This has not been proven, but one time a jet flew over my house leaving a nice stream and I went inside and made some nachos.


Nilsen: Must have been Mexican Airways flight then


:rofl :rofl :D
Title: Re: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Max on November 20, 2007, 07:14:34 AM
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Originally posted by jack666
Last night
 YADA YADA YADA


Yes, this should be Priority ONE for HTC :rofl
Title: Re: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: MajIssue on November 20, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
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Originally posted by jack666
Last night I decided to see if I could get my B-17 to produce contrails
behind it (the engines exhaust condensing and making white trails)
like this picture

(http://[IMG]http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb197/hayden_666/b17-contrails.jpg)[/IMG]


but nothing happened, it would be helpful if Aces High would make an authenticating patch to fix to any errors in the game or to add any useful thoughts by current players of the game.

Let me get this straight... You fly bombers, and you want to make it easier for fighters to find you, track you and kill you... Other issues aside, I would think that  with all the "hats" you wear driving buffs (pilot/bombadier/gunners) that any further help for the fighters would be UN-desirable.:lol
Title: Re: Re: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: dBeav on November 20, 2007, 03:20:12 PM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
Let me get this straight... You fly bombers, and you want to make it easier for fighters to find you, track you and kill you... Other issues aside, I would think that  with all the "hats" you wear driving buffs (pilot/bombadier/gunners) that any further help for the fighters would be UN-desirable.:lol


I think it has to do with adding more realism to a sim. Unfortunately this isn't a sim, it's a cartoon game. (at least most of the time)
Title: Re: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: REP0MAN on November 20, 2007, 07:11:13 PM
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Originally posted by jack666
it would be helpful if Aces High would make an authenticating patch to fix to any errors in the game or to add any useful thoughts by current players of the game.


Don't listen to all the naysayers jack. Contrails will be included in the next Authenticating patch that fixes any errors in the game and adds all useful thoughts by the current subscriber base.

Just give 'em Two Weeks.

:aok
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: WWhiskey on November 22, 2007, 02:39:16 PM
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Originally posted by lagger86
you know the government uses contrails to rain down mind control chemicals. This has not been proven, but one time a jet flew over my house leaving a nice stream and I went inside and made some nachos.

 very good,
 next we will have you doing your yard work at night
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Kweassa on November 22, 2007, 06:39:52 PM
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They are actually a function of temperature rather than just altitude. So, do you want an entire weather aspect to the programming? Because contrails will form at different alts (temperature will vary at a given altitude from day to day for example) depending on the temperature at various altitudes on that day.


 This is obviously an unfair statement, though.

 Like, landings, for example. Landings and take-offs are the most complicated and dangerous aspects of actual flight. But does AH2 recreate every second of necessary detail in depicting such complicated actions? If a game isn't willing to model headwinds and bearings and stuff, should it not be able to model "landings" at all?

 Ofcourse not. Simplified and easy as it is, landings are in the game.

 

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What does it really add to the game? IMO, not much. It'd be a waste of bandwidth IMO, especially considering we mostly have radar.


 Visual realism. "God's in the details".

 It's a very, very powerful and compelling tool.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: Furball on November 23, 2007, 11:36:45 AM
Buff pilots would think this is cool for all of 2 minutes, and then whine that they can no longer see the con sneaking up on their 6 because it hides in the smoke, and demand for it to be removed.
Title: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: 1Boner on November 23, 2007, 02:31:11 PM
Peek a Boom!!
Title: Re: Re: At 25,000 ft.
Post by: jack666 on November 27, 2007, 03:55:53 PM
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
Don't listen to all the naysayers jack. Contrails will be included in the next Authenticating patch that fixes any errors in the game and adds all useful thoughts by the current subscriber base.

Just give 'em Two Weeks.

:aok


atleast you understand...